RE: [Flightgear-devel] Hmmmm

2003-02-17 Thread Richard Bytheway
I noticed that too. Pity that Babelfish doesn't do Welsh.
Could be related to DRI? Possibly?

(Why didn't I take Welsh lessons when I was at University in Swansea?)

Richard

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 We appear to have got a mention in Alan Cox's diary.
 
 Unfortunately he's taken to writing the last batch of entries 
 in Welsh -
 obviously the lessons are going well...
 
 http://www.linux.org.uk/diary/ if anyone has the ability to translate.
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hmmmm

2003-02-17 Thread James Turner

On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 04:21  pm, Jon Stockill wrote:


http://www.linux.org.uk/diary/ if anyone has the ability to translate.



According to my native welsh friend (who also hacks the kernel, so I 
assume the technology is correct to):
'Too many collisions, DRI collides too much when playing Flightgear, 
cars colliding in front of the house'



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hmmmm

2003-02-17 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 We appear to have got a mention in Alan Cox's diary.
 
 Unfortunately he's taken to writing the last batch of entries in Welsh -
 obviously the lessons are going well...
 
 http://www.linux.org.uk/diary/ if anyone has the ability to translate.
 

InterTran results:
translation
Too much he espouse. He is being THREE ' heartburn espouse when dw I '
heartburn play 'Flightgear' I go he is being two he one has ' heartburn
espouse before the tw. He is being anyone ' heartburn blemish serious except
we were we police force and ambulance I go machine fire. I looked I ' group
game Scotland and Ireland. He is being game ' heartburn hand sail. He will be
Ireland ' heartburn win receiving England? l appraise hard! He is being Telsa
' heartburn reach by Bristol. There is not anything train go by Bristol
crookedly Swansea about Sunday now! He was she ' heartburn has tired I go
anything happy.
/translation

Maybe we don't want to know :-)  Please pass the rollaids.

Best,

Jim


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hmmmm

2003-02-17 Thread Major A

 InterTran results:
 translation
 Too much he espouse. He is being THREE ' heartburn espouse when dw I '
 heartburn play 'Flightgear' I go he is being two he one has ' heartburn
 espouse before the tw. He is being anyone ' heartburn blemish serious except
 we were we police force and ambulance I go machine fire. I looked I ' group
 game Scotland and Ireland. He is being game ' heartburn hand sail. He will be
 Ireland ' heartburn win receiving England? l appraise hard! He is being Telsa
 ' heartburn reach by Bristol. There is not anything train go by Bristol
 crookedly Swansea about Sunday now! He was she ' heartburn has tired I go
 anything happy.
 /translation

Wow. Welsh must be a romantic language when every other word means
heartburn...

I love the He is being Telsa bit. What? Alan is coming to Bristol? 
He would be most welcome...

As to DRI (Welsh for THREE!) crashing, I don't even need FlightGear to
crash my computer with DRI CVS, it crashes on startup of the X
server. Hmmm, maybe it's time to also install the kernel module from
DRI?

  Andras

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hmmmm

2003-02-17 Thread Martin Spott
 According to my native welsh friend (who also hacks the kernel, so I
 assume the technology is correct to):
 'Too many collisions, DRI collides too much when playing Flightgear,
[...]

This sounds quite reasonable. I got a reply from Alan on 'dri-devel':

  My lockup with flightgear on the 9000 with 4.2.99 based tree and a recent
  DRM module.

I am (I suppose so) annoying the DRI people already for many months because
FlightGear reliably locks up their X server built from development source
tree. So I assume people start getting really interested in this issue
because they don't want an XFree86-4.3.0 release with obvious bugs that get
triggered by popular software 

Martin.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hmmmm

2003-02-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott writes:
 I am (I suppose so) annoying the DRI people already for many months because
 FlightGear reliably locks up their X server built from development source
 tree. So I assume people start getting really interested in this issue
 because they don't want an XFree86-4.3.0 release with obvious bugs that get
 triggered by popular software 

Keep bugging them. :-)

Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hmmmm

2003-02-17 Thread Martin Spott
 As to DRI (Welsh for THREE!) crashing, I don't even need FlightGear to
 crash my computer with DRI CVS, it crashes on startup of the X
 server. Hmmm, maybe it's time to also install the kernel module from
 DRI?

Yep, please pick the sources from:

xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel/
xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/shared/drm/kernel/


and adjust the Makefile in your kernel tree accordingly. Or adjust
'xc/config/cf/linux.cf' to get the kernel modules built with 'make World',

Martin.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hmmmm

2003-02-17 Thread Martin Spott
 Martin Spott writes:
 I am (I suppose so) annoying the DRI people already for many months because
 FlightGear reliably locks up their X server built from development source
 tree. [...]

 Keep bugging them. :-)

Hmm, it already cost me zillions of hours to do this. FlightGear is anything
but a trivial test case - and DRI is not a simple object to test. So it is
quite a time consuming adventure to find a reliable test case with
FlightGear, to run this test against a handfull of different DRI CVS trees,
against a lot of small DRI-patches floating around 

 and to reboot the workstation after each failure  :-/

I would love the ability to save the current state of my workstation and
simply to resume at this point within a few seconds after a crash,

Martin.
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