Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi Gèrard, Sorry for my late reply. I tested your hook and it seems working very good. I'll clean up as you suggested. Plus, the -test*.xml files should be removed since these are only for my experimental patch that I posted a while ago, but are not completed yet. Best, Tat On Dec 4, 2008, at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On Sunday 07 December 2008 14:21:19 Frederic Bouvier wrote: > To be clear, the problematic preferences.xml was found in > FlightGear-data-1.99.5.tar.bz2 , not in CVS. > Ah, yes. That's what I meant. This change slipped from my local distribution into the RC. It's never been in CVS. Sorry for the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Durk Talsma a écrit : > Hi Fred, > > Yikes. That's probably a resulting from getting my triple screen setup > working. Agreed that shouldn't go into CVS. Thanks for catching this. > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-data-1.99.5.tar.bz2 To be clear, the problematic pr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi Fred, Yikes. That's probably a resulting from getting my triple screen setup working. Agreed that shouldn't go into CVS. Thanks for catching this. Cheers, Durk On Sunday 07 December 2008 12:54:17 Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Frederic Bouvier a écrit : > > Durk Talsma a écrit : > >> Hi Everybody

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Frederic Bouvier a écrit : > Durk Talsma a écrit : > >> Hi Everybody, >> >> I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear 1.9 >> release on my webserver: >> >> http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/SimGear-1.99.5.tar.gz >> http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-1.99.5.tar.gz >>

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Durk Talsma a écrit : > Hi Everybody, > > I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear 1.9 > release on my webserver: > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/SimGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-da

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hello Tat, I forgot to tell you, that, you may want to clean the hook.xml file, since their is some unuseful commented out part. That was a first attend to get the right hook animation. , YASIm compatible being replaced by a more elegant solution. I have included the feature in both jsbsim

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi Gèrard, Thank you very much!! I will test it tonight. On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:48 AM, gerard robin wrote: > On mercredi 03 décembre 2008, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: >> Hi Gèrard, >> >> Thanks for the offer!! >> I really appreciate it. >> >> Please add a hook capability to zero/jsbsim and get it co

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

gerard robin wrote: > On mercredi 03 décembre 2008, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: > >> Hi Gèrard, >> >> Thanks for the offer!! >> I really appreciate it. >> >> Please add a hook capability to zero/jsbsim and get it committed. I >> think Syd will agree with me on this since it won't affect the Yasim

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On mercredi 03 décembre 2008, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: > Hi Gèrard, > > Thanks for the offer!! > I really appreciate it. > > Please add a hook capability to zero/jsbsim and get it committed. I > think Syd will agree with me on this since it won't affect the Yasim > part of zero at all. > > Best, >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi Gèrard, Thanks for the offer!! I really appreciate it. Please add a hook capability to zero/jsbsim and get it committed. I think Syd will agree with me on this since it won't affect the Yasim part of zero at all. Best, Tat >> >> >> >> So If someone, who is familiar with JSBSim / >> exte

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi Curt, > (are we going to release 1.9.0, aren't we. I'm a bit confused with our > versioning thingies... We need to have more clear versioning pilocy, > but this should be discussed some other time). > > Part of the confusion is my fault. It was my understanding from > discussion a year ago t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On mercredi 03 décembre 2008, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: > Hi, > > First of all, many thanks for your effort on this. > > SNIP > > By the way, I'm glad to have Zero in the base package. I'll also try > taking time to improve it too but don't know if I can since I'm > extremely busy right now. So If

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

- "Curtis Olson" a écrit : > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: >> First of all, many thanks for your effort on this. >> >> I've been downloading the tar files but these are still being >> downloaded and will take about 24 or more hours My network is TFFH >> but it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hi, > > First of all, many thanks for your effort on this. > > I've been downloading the tar files but these are still being > downloaded and will take about 24 or more hours My network is TFFH > but it doesn't hel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi, First of all, many thanks for your effort on this. I've been downloading the tar files but these are still being downloaded and will take about 24 or more hours My network is TFFH but it doesn't help me this time. Could you (or Curt) give a tag (like RELEASE_1_9_0_PRE1) to the sourc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On lundi 01 décembre 2008, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:30:17 +0100, gerard wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On lundi 01 décembre 2008, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > Though, if we are talking about the SR71-Blackbird model, i can say > > ( since i am the author) that it is up

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:30:17 +0100, gerard wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On lundi 01 décembre 2008, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:28:53 +, James wrote in message > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On 30 Nov 2008, at 19:08, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > > > As can be see

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On lundi 01 décembre 2008, Erik Hofman wrote: > James Turner wrote: > > On 1 Dec 2008, at 11:03, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: > >> For the remaining .rgb files, yes it's also possible to switch them to > >> png though it's going to be a huge commiting work as the f-14 use > >> tenth of different textu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

James Turner wrote: > On 1 Dec 2008, at 11:03, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: > >> For the remaining .rgb files, yes it's also possible to switch them to >> png though it's going to be a huge commiting work as the f-14 use >> tenth of different textures. I'll try beginning with the biggest >> textur

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

* Vivian Meazza -- Monday 01 December 2008: > Updating the .xml files is not what is required - it is > the .ac files which need updating to the new textures. Only if you totally ignore "material" animations which are necessary for livery switching. In the real world both *.ac and *.xml must get

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On lundi 01 décembre 2008, Vivian Meazza wrote: > James Turner > > > On 1 Dec 2008, at 11:03, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: > > > For the remaining .rgb files, yes it's also possible to switch them to > > > png though it's going to be a huge commiting work as the f-14 use > > > tenth of different textu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

James Turner > > On 1 Dec 2008, at 11:03, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: > > > For the remaining .rgb files, yes it's also possible to switch them to > > png though it's going to be a huge commiting work as the f-14 use > > tenth of different textures. I'll try beginning with the biggest > > textures

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On lundi 01 décembre 2008, Detlef Faber wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 30.11.2008, 23:23 +0100 schrieb gerard robin: > > On dimanche 30 novembre 2008, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > > Durk Talsma wrote: > > > > I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear > > > > 1.9 release on my we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On lundi 01 décembre 2008, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:28:53 +, James wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 30 Nov 2008, at 19:08, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > > As can be seen, there is a huge variation, and some pretty huge > > > planes. I would suggest: > > > - Drop

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On 1 Dec 2008, at 11:03, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: > For the remaining .rgb files, yes it's also possible to switch them to > png though it's going to be a huge commiting work as the f-14 use > tenth of different textures. I'll try beginning with the biggest > textures. An automatic script, th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Yon Uriarte wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Stuart Buchanan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > >I note that the base package size above is 200MB. > We can reduce the on-disk plane footprint. > > I did a quick test compressing f-14b/Models/common2

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi, On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Stuart Buchanan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I note that the base package size above is 200MB. > > I did a quick look at the (uncompressed) size in KB of > each of these aircraft, excluding the CVS directories. > > 5564777-200 > 6208b1900d > 13528 bo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

> -Original Message- > From: AJ MacLeod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 01 December 2008 09:06 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate > > On Monday 01 December 2008 08:59:19 James Sleeman wr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

James Turner wrote: > On 30 Nov 2008, at 22:23, gerard robin wrote: > > > For instance, yes, the Stampe is easy to fly but not realistic > > regarding the FDM. > > Don't forget we don't make a Game. I think the Stampe has fairly good FDM. From my limited experience, it flies as described here

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Stuart Buchanan wrote: > I'm not at my main machine right now, so I can't check, but I think > the AN-2 is > about 30MB in size, so probably a bit big for the base package. > Now I look, it is even bigger (about 48meg by my count), better forget the AN-2 suggestion :-) --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

James wrote: > A "light sport" aircraft or something close would be good, there is a > big gap between the Dragonfly and a 172, this in fact is probably the > biggest growth area of aviation these days so seems a shame to skip over > it. > > Likely candidates (one of): > > Lionceau > Sky

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On Monday 01 December 2008 08:59:19 James Sleeman wrote: > I admit I am not a Camel expert :-) Nor me, though Vivian and I did an awful lot of reading at the time... > I guess I always think of a Camel as having a Gnome in front, which has > no throttle at all as I recall and as such blipping was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

AJ MacLeod wrote: > On Monday 01 December 2008 08:32:40 James Sleeman wrote: > >> Don't know about the Camel, ... having engine throttle is really not >> realistic etc... >> > > I'd suggest that you do a bit more research on that issue... > I admit I am not a Camel expert :-) I guess

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

- "AJ MacLeod" a écrit : > On Monday 01 December 2008 08:32:40 James Sleeman wrote: > > > Don't know about the Camel, ... having engine throttle is really > not > > realistic etc... > > I'd suggest that you do a bit more research on that issue... Do you mean this is a FAQ ? -Fred -- Frédé

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On Monday 01 December 2008 08:32:40 James Sleeman wrote: > Don't know about the Camel, ... having engine throttle is really not > realistic etc... I'd suggest that you do a bit more research on that issue... Cheers, AJ - T

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Durk Talsma wrote: > 777ER : Fairly Complete Airliner > [..snip..] > Zero: WW-II Fighter > A "light sport" aircraft or something close would be good, there is a big gap between the Dragonfly and a 172, this in fact is probably the biggest growth area of aviation these

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Am Sonntag, den 30.11.2008, 23:23 +0100 schrieb gerard robin: > On dimanche 30 novembre 2008, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > Durk Talsma wrote: > > > I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear 1.9 > > > release on my webserver: > > > > > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/SimGear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Anders Gidenstam wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Durk Talsma wrote: > > >> Please note that I made an aircraft selection that was based on various >> suggestions made on the list, but that -as far as I'm concerned - this >> selection is not yet final. I've been trying to cut down the total number

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:28:53 +, James wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 30 Nov 2008, at 19:08, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > > As can be seen, there is a huge variation, and some pretty huge > > planes. I would suggest: > > - Dropping Concorde It is very nice, but also very advanc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

While I think you have the right to 'refuse' the 777 of course :) , but I wasn't refusing , just my own vote because it seems to have issues on a few systems - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Deve

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

I agree. The initial offering from flightgear is fundamentally only for Windows - the expectation under Linux is that the packages will be rolled into distributions. For the aircraft, I would suggest something akin to -base, -realistic, -fun. That would appeal to the different classes of user.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On 30 Nov 2008, at 22:59, Stefan Seifert wrote: > I think the question is not about the archive format itself, but > about the > contents. That is for example if all the contents are in a folder > already or > unpack directly into the current directory. Right - I mean agreeing the name of th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On Sunday, 30. November 2008, Heiko Schulz wrote: > > Which format "zip" isn't it MS windows > > format. ? > > > > And what about "tar.gz" format which is a > > standard too :) > > .zip is mainly used on Win but it can also opened on Linux and Mac. > But tar.gz can be used also on win but can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On dimanche 30 novembre 2008, Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > we have still the 787 and in the forum is a much better version floating. > > The 777-200 is very nice, but the main things are not working properly in > the cockpit and that's a mustbe for base-package IMHO! By the way Syd > disagree a co

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

> Which format "zip" isn't it MS windows > format. ? > > And what about "tar.gz" format which is a > standard too :) > > > -- > Gérard .zip is mainly used on Win but it can also opened on Linux and Mac. But tar.gz can be used also on win but can be opened on win with the OpenSource pro

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi, we have still the 787 and in the forum is a much better version floating. The 777-200 is very nice, but the main things are not working properly in the cockpit and that's a mustbe for base-package IMHO! By the way Syd disagree a comit to the base-package so qwe should regard this! > > I (s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On dimanche 30 novembre 2008, James Turner wrote: SNIP > finding and downloading them. (Not to say aircraft installation > couldn't be made easier - I've love to standardise the .zip format for > aircraft so we could automatically unpack them into data/Aircraft from > the GUI front-ends) > > James

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

James Turner wrote: > On 30 Nov 2008, at 20:01, Syd wrote: > > >> I'd have to vote against including the 777-200ER , there are >> apparently >> some issues with text not displaying on the glass cockpit with some >> cards, which I'm currently trying to solve ... >> > > While I think you ha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On 30 Nov 2008, at 22:23, gerard robin wrote: > For instance, yes, the Stampe is easy to fly but not realistic > regarding the > FDM. > Don't forget we don't make a Game. But equally, the C172, and the 777 handle 'predictably'. Giving new users aircraft which they might *want* to fly, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On dimanche 30 novembre 2008, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > Durk Talsma wrote: > > I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear 1.9 > > release on my webserver: > > > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/SimGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-1.99.5.tar.gz >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On 30 Nov 2008, at 20:01, Syd wrote: > I'd have to vote against including the 777-200ER , there are > apparently > some issues with text not displaying on the glass cockpit with some > cards, which I'm currently trying to solve ... While I think you have the right to 'refuse' the 777, I would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Durk Talsma wrote: > Please note that I made an aircraft selection that was based on various > suggestions made on the list, but that -as far as I'm concerned - this > selection is not yet final. I've been trying to cut down the total number of > aircraft in the base package,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi Stuart, On Sunday 30 November 2008 20:08:12 Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > The lack of a helicopter seems like an omission. > The bo105 is actually in the base package. It looks like it just dropped out of the list I posted. More comments later. Cheers, Durk ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Durk Talsma wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear 1.9 > release on my webserver: > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/SimGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-data-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On dimanche 30 novembre 2008, James Turner wrote: > On 30 Nov 2008, at 19:08, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > As can be seen, there is a huge variation, and some pretty huge > > planes. I would suggest: > > - Dropping Concorde It is very nice, but also very advanced for new > > users. > > Sadly agreed -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Durk Talsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Durk Talsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate > To: "FlightGear developers discussions" > > Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 11:15

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On 30 Nov 2008, at 19:08, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > As can be seen, there is a huge variation, and some pretty huge > planes. I would suggest: > - Dropping Concorde It is very nice, but also very advanced for new > users. Sadly agreed - like the SR-71, it's prominent enough in screenshots t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi, > - Look at reducing the size of the c172p. The Liveries > directory is 9MB, and each tailplane texture is currently > 1MB. > - Adding the bo105. This means we have a helicopter, and > the aircraft is only 3MB in size. > > -Stuart the c172p is now my part and with the next update this week

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Durk Talsma wrote: > I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear 1.9 > release on my webserver: > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/SimGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-data-1.99.5.tar.bz2

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi Ron, On Sunday 30 November 2008 18:43:43 Ron Jensen wrote: > Erik just synced JSBSim about 7 hours before this message. Did those > updates make it into the release candidate? > Yes, I did a full cvs up about three hours before rolling up the tarfiles, so I guess these latest JSBSim changes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi Fred, On Sunday 30 November 2008 18:25:46 Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Durk Talsma a écrit : > > Hi Everybody, > > > > I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear 1.9 > > release on my webserver: > > > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/SimGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > > The version n

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On dimanche 30 novembre 2008, Ron Jensen wrote: > On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 18:15 +0100, Durk Talsma wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > > > I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear 1.9 > > release on my webserver: > > > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/SimGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > > htt

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 18:15 +0100, Durk Talsma wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear 1.9 > release on my webserver: > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/SimGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > http://d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Durk Talsma a écrit : > Hi Everybody, > > I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear 1.9 > release on my webserver: > > http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/SimGear-1.99.5.tar.gz > The version number is quite confusing. Would it be 1.9 or 1.99.5 . Maybe this snapshot should

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

Hi Everybody, I just placed the sources and base package for the pending FlightGear 1.9 release on my webserver: http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/SimGear-1.99.5.tar.gz http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-1.99.5.tar.gz http://durktalsmal.xs4all.nl/FlightGear-data-1.99.5.tar.bz2 Please note that