Re: [Flightgear-devel] I am going to terminate mpserver04 - new mpserver?

2008-03-02 Thread Holger Wirtz
Hi all, On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 03:20:20PM +0100, Csaba Hal?sz wrote: > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:13 PM, tpalinkas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We at Allied-Visions GmbH are pondering running an mpserver on one of our > > servers (with 100 mbit access). We have a few questions regarding to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] electrical updates to kt70.xml break it

2008-03-02 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 20:43 -0700, dave perry wrote: > > > Perhaps we could settle on > > "/system/electrical/outputs/instrument-lights-norm"? > > > > Ron > > > > > > > This works for me in kt70.xml. I will simply replace > "/controls/lighting/panel-norm" (the original property in kt70.xml)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] electrical updates to kt70.xml break it

2008-03-02 Thread dave perry
Ron Jensen wrote: > On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 14:01 -0700, dave perry wrote: > >> Ron Jensen wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:37 -0700, dave perry wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> In all the electrical systems I have done, bus_volts is always the >> voltage that results when a switch

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:18:15 +0100, Georg wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Heiko Schulz schrieb: > > Here is a pic of the incident: > > > > http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.file?id=536882887&filename=phpOltUWB.jpg > > > > Regards > > HHS > > > > > > Thank you. > This is clear proof how

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, --- Georg Vollnhals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > Hello Heiko and all readers, > > I am back again, having to add something. > > When I looked at the METAR format I discovered that > turbulences are not > described, only gusts (like 80/30G20 = wind from 80 > deg, 30 knots > windspee

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Georg Vollnhals schrieb: > Heiko Schulz schrieb: > >> I flew at this day too in FGFS but there was something >> important thing missing, which was in reality the >> cause of this incident: turbulences and gusts! >> >> In FGFS with real weather fetch there is a homogeneous >> wind. O.k., I can s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Melchior FRANZ schrieb: > ... > > Then call metar and fgfs with that: > > $ fgfs `metar -e 183 -c "EDDF 022250Z 24012KT -RA FEW020 BKN032 10/09 > Q1010 NOSIG"` > ... > Hi Melchior, just for all those reading along I want to approve that your above hint works for me. Starting from the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess

2008-03-02 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> Yes, indeed. Nice work. What's left to do is to remove such pages: > > http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=FlightGear- > Points_of_Interest > > http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Adding_featu > res > > Those who know how to fill in the contents ar

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Melchior FRANZ schrieb: > * Georg Vollnhals -- Monday 03 March 2008: > >> When searching for more documentation I read about your metar proxy ... >> long ago. >> I think this was the predecessor of the actual metar tool and the METAR >> capabilities of FG. >> > > No. A perl script called "m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Georg Vollnhals -- Monday 03 March 2008: > When searching for more documentation I read about your metar proxy ... > long ago. > I think this was the predecessor of the actual metar tool and the METAR > capabilities of FG. No. A perl script called "metar" was the predecessor. Then Erik demanded

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Heiko Schulz schrieb: > Here is a pic of the incident: > > http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.file?id=536882887&filename=phpOltUWB.jpg > > Regards > HHS > > Thank you. This is clear proof how much chance had a hand in this - beside pilot's skills. Georg -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Melchior FRANZ schrieb: > * Georg Vollnhals -- Monday 03 March 2008: > >> $fgfs `metar -e 183 -c loww` >> > > Note that these are *backticks*, not single quotes (apostrophes). > On bash shells you can also write it as > > $ fgfs $(metar -e 183 -c loww) > > > > >> 1. Is the use of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PREVIEW] Nellis AFB (KLSV)

2008-03-02 Thread Georg Vollnhals
alexis bory schrieb: > hi, > > I just can't wait it to be finished (one or two more weeks), here is a > preview of Nellis AFB (KLSV). > > http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/scenery/KLSV-page/index.html > > Alexis > > Alexis, congratulations! Without wanting to offend somebody I have to say it is the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Georg Vollnhals -- Monday 03 March 2008: > $fgfs `metar -e 183 -c loww` Note that these are *backticks*, not single quotes (apostrophes). On bash shells you can also write it as $ fgfs $(metar -e 183 -c loww) > 1. Is the use of the "metar" tool really the only option to get an old > METAR

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Heiko Schulz schrieb: > I flew at this day too in FGFS but there was something > important thing missing, which was in reality the > cause of this incident: turbulences and gusts! > > In FGFS with real weather fetch there is a homogeneous > wind. O.k., I can set the turbulences manually, but > the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Ralf Gerlich schrieb: Hi Ralf, first thank you for your reply and the hints .. and that you corrected the wrong date I gave. Of course it was MARCH, 1 and not February :-/ I did not know the "metar" tool until now and tried to find out more about how to use it. There is a little help displayed wh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess

2008-03-02 Thread Ampere K.
On March 2, 2008 10:53:48 am Georg Vollnhals wrote: > Torsten Dreyer schrieb: > > Am Sonntag, 2. März 2008 14:40 schrieb Gijs de Rooy: > >> You could start with editing if you want. I'm done for now. > > > > May I say that after not visiting the wiki site for a while my first > > impression on the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Heiko Schulz
Here is a pic of the incident: http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.file?id=536882887&filename=phpOltUWB.jpg Regards HHS --- Georg Vollnhals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hi all, > > there has been a heavy storm (to hurricane) > situation here in Northern > Europe during the last days. > > A Luft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] electrical updates to kt70.xml break it

2008-03-02 Thread
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:04:45 -0700 Ron Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 14:01 -0700, dave perry wrote: > > Ron Jensen wrote: > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:37 -0700, dave perry wrote: > > > > By normalizing the /system/electrical/output/... property, the battery

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, > > BTW: is there any possibility to load a special > METAR situation into > FlightGear? > Is a METAR file of this time (EDDH, Saturday > 01.Febr.2008, 14:00) > available anywhere? > I noticed it too, and followed a discussion at www.flightsimulation.ch about. I flew at this day too in FG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] electrical updates to kt70.xml break it

2008-03-02 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 14:01 -0700, dave perry wrote: > Ron Jensen wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:37 -0700, dave perry wrote: > > > > In all the electrical systems I have done, bus_volts is always the > voltage that results when a switch connects the item to a bus. That way > I can mo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ***SPAM*** Re: [PREVIEW] Nellis AFB (KLSV)

2008-03-02 Thread alexis bory
Chris Metzler wrote: > On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:40:43 +0100 alexis bory wrote: > > hi, > > > > I just can't wait it to be finished (one or two more weeks), here > > is a preview of Nellis AFB (KLSV). > > > > http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/scenery/KLSV-page/index.html > > This is gorgeous stuff. Were y

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Request for Blender tutorials

2008-03-02 Thread LeeE
On Sunday 02 March 2008 13:21, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * LeeE -- Sunday 02 March 2008: > > Gradually making some progress with Blender though. > > BTW: I just wrote a simple script that packs manually UV mapped > objects onto a texture square. I'll publish it as soon as it's > ready (later today :-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] electrical updates to kt70.xml break it

2008-03-02 Thread dave perry
Ron Jensen wrote: > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:37 -0700, dave perry wrote: > >> I just noticed that the recent electrical updates to the kt170.xml >> submitted by Ron Jenson make the kt70 bright white if the instrument >> lights are turned on in the pa24-250 and the pa28-161. This is because >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] tree problems ...

2008-03-02 Thread
On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:00:46 + (GMT) Stuart Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Syd&Sandy wrote: > > I know the differences between tree species , LeeE ,thats not the problem > > ... > > if I set a certain tree texture for a terrain type ... for example , I > > have 2 > > meter high s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Request for Blender tutorials

2008-03-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 02 March 2008: > BTW: I just wrote a simple script that packs manually UV mapped > objects onto a texture square. That's committed now under ./utils/Modeller/uv_pack.py. Follow the instructions in the file, and please report problems. It turns an empty texture in someth

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PREVIEW] Nellis AFB (KLSV)

2008-03-02 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:40:43 +0100 alexis bory wrote: > > hi, > > I just can't wait it to be finished (one or two more weeks), here is a > preview of Nellis AFB (KLSV). > > http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/scenery/KLSV-page/index.html This is gorgeous stuff. Were you stationed there? Went there for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] tree problems ...

2008-03-02 Thread Stuart Buchanan
--- Syd&Sandy wrote: > I know the differences between tree species , LeeE ,thats not the problem ... > if I set a certain tree texture for a terrain type ... for example , I have > 2 > meter high shrub "trees" for the ShrubCover/ShrubGrassCover/ScrubCover. When I > fly over the area , it is cove

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PREVIEW] Nellis AFB (KLSV)

2008-03-02 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 18:40 +0100, alexis bory wrote: > hi, > > I just can't wait it to be finished (one or two more weeks), here is a > preview of Nellis AFB (KLSV). > > http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/scenery/KLSV-page/index.html > > Alexis Looks really good! And brings back some memories, on th

[Flightgear-devel] [PREVIEW] Nellis AFB (KLSV)

2008-03-02 Thread alexis bory
hi, I just can't wait it to be finished (one or two more weeks), here is a preview of Nellis AFB (KLSV). http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/scenery/KLSV-page/index.html Alexis - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy al

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PNG files in CVS repository

2008-03-02 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Melchior FRANZ a écrit : > * Frederic Bouvier -- Sunday 02 March 2008: > >> So I would like owners to change the status themselves. >> > > Done for the bo105 files. > I managed to fix all other png files located under aircrafts There are still some thumbnail.jpg in some directories tha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Hi! Georg Vollnhals wrote: > A Lufthansa A 320 touched! the runway with one winglet (damaged) in the > final phase of the landing when not only executing a crosswind landing > but getting into a heavy unexpected gust. Looks like a horrible situation I would wish never to get into, neither as a pi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PNG files in CVS repository

2008-03-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederic Bouvier -- Sunday 02 March 2008: > So I would like owners to change the status themselves. Done for the bo105 files. > On a more general note, it seems that every new directory in the CVS > repository has permition problems that need to be fixed manually. Yes, that's annoying. A new

[Flightgear-devel] PNG files in CVS repository

2008-03-02 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Now that PNG files are inserted in the CVS repository, I would like to point out that these files should be inserted as Binary files. Some, that are already there, are considered as text files, with LF expanded to CRLF for Windows users, and are corrupted. One example is data/Aircraft/bo105/Models/

[Flightgear-devel] LH A320 near crash during crosswind and heavy gust

2008-03-02 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Hi all, there has been a heavy storm (to hurricane) situation here in Northern Europe during the last days. A Lufthansa A 320 touched! the runway with one winglet (damaged) in the final phase of the landing when not only executing a crosswind landing but getting into a heavy unexpected gust. The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess

2008-03-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Georg Vollnhals -- Sunday 02 March 2008: > Torsten's post made me also look at the new FG wiki and it really not > only looks much better but is more user-friendly. Yes, indeed. Nice work. What's left to do is to remove such pages: http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=F

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess

2008-03-02 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Torsten Dreyer schrieb: > Am Sonntag, 2. März 2008 14:40 schrieb Gijs de Rooy: > >> You could start with editing if you want. I'm done for now. >> > May I say that after not visiting the wiki site for a while my first > impression on the new look was: ***whow*** it looks much better than b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess (was: Re: liv ery handling (& MP updates ))

2008-03-02 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am Sonntag, 2. März 2008 14:40 schrieb Gijs de Rooy: > You could start with editing if you want. I'm done for now. May I say that after not visiting the wiki site for a while my first impression on the new look was: ***whow*** it looks much better than before! Thanks for the improvement! TOrsten

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess (was: Re: livery handling (& MP updates))

2008-03-02 Thread Gijs de Rooy
> I guess I'll wait a few days until Gijs de Rooy (wiki user: gijs)> completes > his version and take it from there. Personally, the number> of links on front > page is not user friendly with some of the sections> should be moved to sub > pages. You could start with editing if you want. I'm do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess (was: Re: livery handling (& MP updates))

2008-03-02 Thread George Patterson
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * George Patterson -- Sunday 02 March 2008: > > > I second Heiko's comments, if no one improves something, how does it > > supposed to get better? > > You miss the point. I'm not going to (1) write code, to (2) document

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Request for Blender tutorials

2008-03-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* LeeE -- Sunday 02 March 2008: > Gradually making some progress with Blender though. BTW: I just wrote a simple script that packs manually UV mapped objects onto a texture square. I'll publish it as soon as it's ready (later today :-). Works like this: - map all objects individually, choosing th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess (was: Re: livery handling (& MP updates))

2008-03-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* George Patterson -- Sunday 02 March 2008: > I second Heiko's comments, if no one improves something, how does it > supposed to get better? You miss the point. I'm not going to (1) write code, to (2) document it, *and* to (3) fix the wiki page that other people have turned into a mess. (2) isn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess (was: Re: livery handling (& MP updates

2008-03-02 Thread George Patterson
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Gijs de Rooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The two portals are listed twice. > > once to the left of the heading saying "Welcome to..." The other > > instance is listed under "Please choose a portal". My preference is to > > lose them from the top as its less to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Request for Blender tutorials

2008-03-02 Thread LeeE
On Saturday 01 March 2008 23:57, Jeff Koppe wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: LeeE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "FlightGear developers discussions" > > Subject: Re: > > [Flightgear-devel] Request for Blender tutorials Date: Sat, 1 > > Mar 2008 18:35:24 + > > > > > > > > I guess

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess (was: Re: livery handling (& MP updates)

2008-03-02 Thread Gijs de Rooy
> The two portals are listed twice.> once to the left of the heading saying > "Welcome to..." The other> instance is listed under "Please choose a portal". > My preference is to> lose them from the top as its less to read before the > main text of the> page. Yes, first i've put them in top, bu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess (was: Re: livery handling (& MP updates)

2008-03-02 Thread George Patterson
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Gijs de Rooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > EG. I have just made a small edit to the front page which was to > > remove a fixed width of 500 pixels which messes up the page on a > > narrow screen or browser width. > > Ok, I didn't test it on a smaller

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess (was: Re: livery handling (& MP updates))

2008-03-02 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hello, > EG. I have just made a small edit to the front page which was to> remove a > fixed width of 500 pixels which messes up the page on a> narrow screen or > browser width. Ok, I didn't test it on a smaller screen. Thanks for editing! > Melchior, which page would you call the page that ne

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki mess (was: Re: livery handling (& MP updates))

2008-03-02 Thread George Patterson
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Heiko Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > > > IOW: under these circumstances I'm not going to > > waste my time > > on the wiki. > > > > m. > > > > > That's why you SHOULD put it in the wiki - it will

[Flightgear-devel] Weekly CVS Changelog Summary: FlightGear data

2008-03-02 Thread Curtis L. Olson
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 2008-02-24_10:30:59 (mfranz) /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/bluebird/bluebird-base.xml Stuart ANDREASON: update =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 2008-02-24_10:31:02 (mfranz) /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/