[Flightgear-devel] Jenkins build server...
The MSVC host has a failing hard disk. I'm going to have to replace it, but I don't know how long this will take - if you notice the MSVC build host offline, this is why. tnx. g. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Random buildings improvements - phase 2
The guy with the i5@3.3/8G/GT450 (and taking 50ms/frame for full-noise rembrandt) has a crapton of hardware grunt -- no current commercial game is going to bring that machine to its knees -- we're just *slow*. X-Plane 10 would kill it dead as a post. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Random buildings improvements - phase 2
On Tue, 1 May 2012, Stuart Buchanan wrote: Hi All, I've just committed a change that adds emissive lighting to the random buildings: http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/buildings-evening.jpg That looks fantastic Stuart! It'll be cool when you can fly over and catch someone playing Tetris on the side of one of those buildings. :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Random buildings improvements - phase 2
On Wed, 2 May 2012, Jon Stockill wrote: http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/buildings-evening.jpg That looks fantastic Stuart! It'll be cool when you can fly over and catch someone playing Tetris on the side of one of those buildings. :D Damnit, now I need to find time to model the green building at MIT and write tetris in nasal! \o/ g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] An empassioned plea
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Vic Marriott wrote: Personally, I'd build the best white-box machine I could afford and throw Linux on it. Hi Gene, Once again the point is being missed. Things like food and shelter are higher up the finances queue than another computer set-up. Those of you who can afford such luxuries might like to have a thought for the rest of the world, which is still paying the price for what a few greedy bankers have done to world economics. Oh for f*cks sake. Look, this discussion isn't about who can afford what, it was originally about getting the most performance you can by incrementally upgrading. This isn't the place to whinge about world economics. If you can afford it, great. If you can't, well you can't. So there you go. My other half moans enough about the time I spend on this Silly Game as it is. Imagine what would happen if I bought another computer just for FG. You might try denigrating THEIR hobby and when complaints result, say, sucks when the shoe is on the other foot, doesn't it? *plonk* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] An empassioned plea
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012, Vic Marriott wrote: a Mac Pro can get periodic upgrades just like any other PC or Linux box. As I hinted before Gene, those of us on limited budgets can't really justify the spend for a Mac Pro. Maybe not, but you could buy a used one and tweak it if you're insistant on having Apple hardware. Personally, I'd build the best white-box machine I could afford and throw Linux on it. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Netiquette
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012, Christian Mayer wrote: Currently I'm seeing quite a few mails with a full quote of the mail referring to (e.g. the Water shader issues thread). This doesn't help understanging the new point - it's causing the opposite, as the new comment has to be found in all the quotating... My hero! \o/ :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] An empassioned plea
On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, James Turner wrote: Speaking as a fellow Mac user, you are unfortunately in the worst possible place in terms of bang-for-buck to use FlightGear - while your Mac has plenty of horse-power in the general case, it wasn't that fast at 3D when new, and you've no way to fix that. Apple tend not to ship cutting edge GPUs in their computers. This has become a huge issue recently with X-Plane users. Version 10 of XP is just *crushing* older Macs and people are up in arms about it. Nobody seems to understand that it's not the fault of the software - some of these guys have G5s and such and are just getting shellacked. If you're doing ANY kind of heavy 3D work, be it simulation or modeling, you can't tie yourself to a platform you can't at least incrementally upgrade. Doesn't matter what the OS is either - a Mac Pro can get periodic upgrades just like any other PC or Linux box. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Jenkins updated..
I updated the Jenkins machine today - BIG jump - went from 1.42 to 1.460, picking up a ton of bug fixes in the process. James - the Mac slave may need to be updated to the latest Jenkins code. If anyone spots a problem, please yell! tnx. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Now Rembrandt here...
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Fred, is there a reason the shadows on the instrument faces are so jumpy? Probably :) one reason is the moving sun that few other games have (not speaking of flight simulators, of course) Ok. :) I noticed the Anteworld demo of Outerra has the same issue when I was fiddling with it yesterday. The heavy filtering does help quite a bit, but there should be some way to eliminate that jitter. It's a shame we can't just slow the planet down. :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Workaround: c172p on MacBook Pro with Intel HD3000
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, Stuart Buchanan wrote: I can see a difference - the 4096 rivets look more round and have fewer rendering artefacts. Looks nicer too! :) Is there a way to increase the resolutin of the texture used for the aircraft paint? Right now it looks like some kid has been after it with a spray can... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Now Rembrandt here...
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Here is a video with a steady view to see shadow stability. http://youtu.be/JtEXIn2yL94 I also added 3 different sequences with different levels of filtering. Filtering is not yet configurable but is selectable in the sunlight shader with simple code modification. Fred, is there a reason the shadows on the instrument faces are so jumpy? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGbuild for MS Windows
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, castle...@comcast.net wrote: found the note on editing zconf.h. Simgear build and install completed; onto to flightgear John \o/ g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r]-- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Michael Sgier wrote: Traffic and parking etc. are handled via xml files in Flightgear different to X-Plane. But to make changes to the opensource apt.dat forward them to Robin: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=58356 Right, but if you use the v10 format, all that data is there and you don't have to hand-craft an xml file for every airport in the database. It's silly not to leverage an already existing resource, especially when it can save a ton of work. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Martin Spott wrote: Gene, as you know, FlightGear's XML structure for taxiway routing and other scenery-related airport info predates the capabilities of the v10 You're assuming knowledge not in evidence. :) I knew nothing of this xml format, nor how long it had been around. X-Plane apt.dat format by _many_ years. All the work's already been done, therefore, even if it might be worthwhile to consider merging FlightGear's data stock into Robin's file, your claim sounds a bit inappropriate. Steve MartinWell excse me!/Steve Martin g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Ron Jensen wrote: On Monday 09 April 2012 15:05:58 Torsten Dreyer wrote: Hi, what is our current policy for updates to nav.dat? Do we commit changes to the binary gzip'ed file or do we have a central repository for the data? Would it make sense to have the unzip'ed file in git and zip it for the release in make dist? Torsten I think it would be a great idea to gunzip nav.dat and apt.dat in git. Any plans to support the v10 format that recently came out? It adds traffic patterns and parking locations I think. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] More Rembrandt Feedback
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Heiko Schulz wrote: Hello, The Cub behaves perfect- here a little video showing beside the cockpit shadowing also the terrain shadowing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcj7jpuhLeU Please watch in HD Very, very nice! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt aircraft and fgrun
On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Frederic Bouvier wrote: I don't remember every thing I did 5 years ago. If it's any consolation, I get fuzzy when things are out past a week. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Updated Cub and c172p for Rembrandt
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012, Martin Spott wrote: Stuart Buchanan wrote: How's the cockpit project going BTW? Having a sponsor to pay the transport would be cool ;-) Aside from that, we're looking for a couple of small (8-12 range), bright and preferrably identical colour TFT displays for the panel, because the mechanics of the yoke prevent installing bigger ones. Martin, if you were to pick up a copy of Mike Powell's book Building Simulated Aircraft Instruments, you could fill that whole panel pretty cheaply, including a servo based artificial horizon. I would be happy to supply you with any custom metal parts that they need. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] (no subject)
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012, Chris Wilkinson wrote: http://nofsckingway.com/av5.php Chris Wilkinson blobster...@yahoo.com.au WilksJohn 3/25/2012 11:33:09 AM Welcome to the wonderful world of comprimised Yahoo! email accounts! *snarls* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Wordmark terrasync
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, J. Holden wrote: It looks like the trademark claim is energy based, in my opinion no possible consumer confusion between a piece of integrated software fetching a virtual world from a computer server and natural gas drilling. Unfortunately John, that doesn't mean much these days. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Double Input Resolution?
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Roberto Inzerillo wrote: I see FGFS keyboard/mouse interface uses 7/8bit resolution. I'd like to know if someone can help me figuring out what input resolution should I use for: /controls/flight/aileron /controls/flight/aileron-trim /controls/flight/elevator /controls/flight/elevator-trim /controls/flight/rudder /controls/flight/rudder-trim /controls/gear/brake-parking /controls/engines/enigne/throttle /controls/engines/engine/cowl-flaps-norm /controls/engines/engine/propeller-pitch Roberto, the _minium_ ADC resolution I'd use is 10 bit with 12 bit being preferred. 8 bit is just too coarse to give a good result. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Double Input Resolution?
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, castle...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, I've been using 12 bit resolution. Need it since I'm also operating with a control force loading system and autopilot. If you go to 12 bits suggest you get some high res, multi-turn pots or some other systems (like magnetic) to give you the precision that warrants 12 bits. If you're using low cost single 270 degree turn pots, might as well stick with a lower bit resolution. Scratch building hall effect sensor input assemblies is very, very easy. See here: http://www.simpits.org/geneb/?p=299 Here's a more detailed how-to that I posted: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3225807/DIY_hall_sensor.html#Post3225807 I've been told by a guy that built a set of these for his cockpit that he gets a wider voltage range by using a single magnet instead of an opposed pair. I haven't had a chance to try that idea myself however. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] a small set of minor aircraft model question...
On Mon, 5 Mar 2012, Gary Neely wrote: Flying means I need to be able to actually read the instrument, so I often prefer larger fonts and bolder lines than perhaps the original had. +1 I'd think that real aircraft engineers would seek to minimize these effects, and that they would manifest significantly in some but not Every single real aircraft instrument I have in my collection has a special anti-glare coating on the glass. They don't reflect enough light to really notice. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Jenkins thrashing...
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi Gene, It appears that the windows-release target rebuilds _everything_ regardless of whether or not it's necessary. This build gets triggered multiple times for some reason and due to disk thrashing, renders the machine basically unusable until it's done. Since this machine also hosts the VM that runs my mail server, you can imagine how annoyed I get. :) I've disabled the MSVC build host until this can be resolved. (Fred?) I see you disabled the Windows-release task that is fine until we start a new release cycle. The MSVC machine is also disconnected. Is it intended ? Yes. I needed to use the machine. :) I've re-enabled the MSVC host. I think the problem is that a build is redone every time fgrun is changed because there is no release branch, and it rebuilds everything because Jenkins touch files when it copies artifacts. One solution could be to split the task : one for building binaries, one for packaging. One thing I noticed it did is that it built windows-release, built two other packages and then built windows-release _again_. That's when I got really annoyed. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Odd message during latest CI build...
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Stuart Buchanan wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: Spotted this and figured Fred or other cmake guru might want to know about it. g. D:\FGFSReleaseBuild\build-sgcmake ..\simgear -G Visual Studio 10 -DMSVC_3RDPARTY_ROOT=D:\FGFSReleaseBuild -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX:PATH=D:\FGFSReleaseBuild/install/msvc100/SimGear -- version is 2 dot 6 dot 0 -- ignoring: ^D:/FGFSReleaseBuild/simgear/.git;\\.gitignore;Makefile.am;~$; -- Library installation directory: lib -- 3rdparty files located in D:/FGFSReleaseBuild -- BOOST_ROOT is D:/FGFSReleaseBuild/boost_1_44_0 -- apr-1-config not found, implement manual search for APR -- libsvn found, enabling in SimGear CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:224 (if): given arguments: STREQUAL Clang Unknown arguments specified -- Configuring done error opening key: Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\10.0\vsmacros\OtherProjects7 error opening key: Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\10.0\vsmacros\RecordingProject7 error opening key: Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\10.0\vsmacros\OtherProjects7 I committed a change to SimGear last night that includes a string equality check, which might be related. Compiled and worked fine on my platform (Ubuntu), but C++ isn't my forte, so it might be that I've done something that's not cross-platform compatible. The error shown is related to CMake I think. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Odd message during latest CI build...
Spotted this and figured Fred or other cmake guru might want to know about it. g. D:\FGFSReleaseBuild\build-sgcmake ..\simgear -G Visual Studio 10 -DMSVC_3RDPARTY_ROOT=D:\FGFSReleaseBuild -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX:PATH=D:\FGFSReleaseBuild/install/msvc100/SimGear -- version is 2 dot 6 dot 0 -- ignoring: ^D:/FGFSReleaseBuild/simgear/.git;\\.gitignore;Makefile.am;~$; -- Library installation directory: lib -- 3rdparty files located in D:/FGFSReleaseBuild -- BOOST_ROOT is D:/FGFSReleaseBuild/boost_1_44_0 -- apr-1-config not found, implement manual search for APR -- libsvn found, enabling in SimGear CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:224 (if): given arguments: STREQUAL Clang Unknown arguments specified -- Configuring done error opening key: Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\10.0\vsmacros\OtherProjects7 error opening key: Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\10.0\vsmacros\RecordingProject7 error opening key: Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\10.0\vsmacros\OtherProjects7 -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Jenkins thrashing...
It appears that the windows-release target rebuilds _everything_ regardless of whether or not it's necessary. This build gets triggered multiple times for some reason and due to disk thrashing, renders the machine basically unusable until it's done. Since this machine also hosts the VM that runs my mail server, you can imagine how annoyed I get. :) I've disabled the MSVC build host until this can be resolved. (Fred?) tnx. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012, Pedro Morgan wrote: Can I ask a Muppet Question.. ?? copyright is always owned by authority of nav data.. eg caa, nats, eurocontrol.. So this data is theirs but were allowed to use Another example id livery and logos.. eg an airline that is defunct or BritishArwys as and exmaple.. Now their logo is their copyright.. So what I am trying to get at is the FRAND.. Just FYI, any navigation data provided by any agency of the US govt. is public domain. US Copyright law also doesn't recognize the copyright-ability of facts. YMMV in other parts of the world of course. (I think the UKians have a law on the books that says facts can be copyrighted) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Projection system question
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..hopefully, the guys will have enough self discipline to stay away from something this kinky until they have the old hag (FG-2.6) out the door, should be happening around the 17'th, I'm having my gear coming into my new workshop home on the 16'th and the 17'th. ...or maybe we could be spectacularly lucky in that you fall down a stair case and lose all abililty to communicate this nonsense electronically. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] The Douglas Dc 3 in GIT
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Vivian Meazza wrote: The Devel list has a long tradition of avoiding personalizing discussion, and I for one wiish it to remain so. Seconded. Take your pissing matches elsewhere. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG scam resurfaces...
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012, Chris Wilkinson wrote: http://flightsimulatorplus.com/terms.html Seems FSP or PFS or FPS or whatever has reinvented itself - that link showed on my Facebook page just now for the first time in perhaps 6 months. For those of you with YouTube accounts, please search for flight simulator plus and flag the videos as scam/fraud and post a comment about how they're selling FlightGear. Jon Stockill(sp?) has some good tips about doing this. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Jenkins back...
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi Gene, MSVC machine is down currently The service fell over - should be running now. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Jenkins back...
Commercial power came back on at 8pm Pacific Time after being off from 7:15am on Thursday. The build server is back online! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release-branches READY
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Torsten Dreyer wrote: The release branches are ready and the next/master branches are open again for cool, great and fancy new features. James: Please introduce the new release branches to Jenkins ThorstenB: Please do so for the OBS Curt: Please create a release candidate from the release/2.6.0 build once James has set this up. Tat: Please create a Mac release candidate from the release/2.6.0 branches. All: Please have a close look on the bug tracker is help sorting out the issues mentioned there. What's next? - New development goes into next (fg/sg) and master (fgdata). - Bug fixes go into next (fg/sg) and master (fgdata). If they also fix a bug for the 2.6.0 release, please cherry-pick them into release/2.6.0 - Bug fixes that do not match the current development because next|master have moved on go directly into release/2.6.0 Torsten Many thanks to you all for your hard work! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] DDS texures (Was: Improving random trees buildings)
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: blobs? We could try to decompress the blobs? --- No, patent infringement!!! I call shennanigans. There's no way a process that obvious could be patented and if some mouth breathing derp DID patent it, it needs to be ignored. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.-- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announcing Project Rembrandt
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi John, if you're still wondering what it is about, this video can help : http://youtu.be/peEzEapavkg VERY nice! Is there a way to make the same shadow effects apply to aircraft as well? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announcing Project Rembrandt
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Frederic Bouvier wrote: o De: Gene Buckle On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi John, if you're still wondering what it is about, this video can help : http://youtu.be/peEzEapavkg VERY nice! Is there a way to make the same shadow effects apply to aircraft as well? It applies also for aircraft, and for relief as well. Why do you thing it could be differently ? My implementation is very different from the one that was implemented in FG 1.0 I didn't know - my graphics knowledge is _very_ limited. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announcing Project Rembrandt
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Is there a way to make the same shadow effects apply to aircraft as well? It applies also for aircraft, and for relief as well. Why do you thing it could be differently ? My implementation is very different from the one that was implemented in FG 1.0 I didn't know - my graphics knowledge is _very_ limited. :) http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/project_rembrandt_2.png http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/project_rembrandt_3.png Admittedly, something should be done to increase shadow map resolution near the viewer. I have ideas on how to do that, but it's for another day ;) That looks _really_ nice. It just oozes with potential. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announcing Project Rembrandt
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi All, i am so excited I couldn't resist to share the first milestone of my current project : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/project_rembrandt_1.png It looks great, but what are you doing? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announcing Project Rembrandt
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011, Frederic Bouvier wrote: On Sat, 17 Dec 2011, Frederic Bouvier wrote: De: Gene Buckle On Sat, 17 Dec 2011, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi All, i am so excited I couldn't resist to share the first milestone of my current project : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/project_rembrandt_1.png It looks great, but what are you doing? :) Noticed the shadows ? Yeah, I've already had my *facepalm* moment after seeing more messages. Awesome job Fred, as usual. :) The best effect is the one you don't notice ;-) Yeah, but they're not supposed to be so good that I embarass myself. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FYI: New airport nav-aid data available for X-Plane (2011.13) (fwd)
Robin has updated apt.dat and nav.dat... -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:38:01 -0800 From: Robin Peel ro...@xsquawkbox.net Reply-To: x-plane-t...@yahoogroups.com To: 'X-Plane Technical Group' x-plane-t...@yahoogroups.com, 'X-Plane News Group' xplane-n...@yahoogroups.com, xp...@yahoogroupes.fr Cc: 'austin meyer' aus...@x-plane.com, i...@x-plane.com, 'Ben Supnik' bsup...@xsquawkbox.net Subject: [x-plane-tech] New airport nav-aid data available for X-Plane (2011.13) New data is now available for X-Plane. This is data cycle 2011.13 valid from 15-Dec-2011 to 12-Jan-2012. This data is for X-Plane 9 and for X-Plane 10. This update includes many minor updates, including four new airports in China, and many new airports in the South Pacific and Antarctica. Please note that terrain for extreme latitudes (eg. Antarctica) is not included with X-Plane 9 or X-Plane 10. For X-Plane 9 you may download the terrain from http://www.xpsrtm.com/ (but these old-format data files will not work with X-Plane 10). These files will work under Windows, Mac OS or Linux. If you wait until the next incremental release of X-Plane 10, then this data will be installed automatically if you use the X-Plane Updater - this avoids the need to download my files and install the files into the correct folders - this method is highly recommended! As always, this new data for X-Plane 9 and X-Plane 10 is available from my website at: http://data.x-plane.com http://data.x-plane.com/ Please join me in thanking those who keep contributing to the X-Plane database. Helpful feedback is always appreciated. - Robin Robin Peel Seattle, Washington, USA Custodian of the X-Plane master database of airports and nav-aids ro...@xsquawkbox.net Visit the X-Plane airport navigation data home page at http://data.x-plane.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/x-plane-tech/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/x-plane-tech/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: x-plane-tech-dig...@yahoogroups.com x-plane-tech-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: x-plane-tech-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Systems Optimization Self Assessment Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat update (lowercase names etc.)
One thing you guys are forgetting is that both apt.dat and nav.dat are updated regularly by Robin Peel, the keeper of those two files. I think changing them would probably bite you after a while. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Marketting of 2.6.0 via FS Break podcast
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011, Stuart Buchanan wrote: (For any third party reading this, Arnt's comments are not usually a reflection of the general view of the FG community, as a perusal of the mailing list will quickly show) Stuart is far too nice. He's a kook that should be ignored. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Jenkins Builds for win32 down?
On Thu, 1 Dec 2011, James Turner wrote: On 1 Dec 2011, at 12:33, Heiko Schulz wrote: Anyone knows why? The Windows slave is offline, and I keep forgetting to poke Gene to see why. Probably the Windows box needs restarted / tickled / fed chocolate. The service had stopped for some reason. I've got it restarted and I've added the windows builds to the queue. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announce: AeonWave 2.1 for Linux available
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011, Michael Sgier wrote: So AeonWave is a complete replacement for OpenAL? Must be...now could it do synthetic speech as used for X-Plane's ATC? Thanks Keep in mind that if memory serves, X-Plane uses the MS Speech SDK (at least under the Windows build). g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announce: AeonWave 2.1 for Linux available
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Emilian Huminiuc wrote: On Friday 25 November 2011 22:44:47 Michael Sgier wrote: So AeonWave is a complete replacement for OpenAL? Must be...now could it do synthetic speech as used for X-Plane's ATC? Thanks Ever heard of festival? ever read the flightgear manual ? You've got everything needed already in place. Jeeze, a little consideration goes a long way there sparky. Go be a jerk someplace else. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announce: AeonWave 2.1 for Linux available
Congrats on the release Erik! Does your new sound system or OpenAL itself allow you to specify the origin of a sound as an x/y/z offset from a central point? tnx. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announce: AeonWave 2.1 for Linux available
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Erik Hofman wrote: On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 08:10 -0800, Gene Buckle wrote: Congrats on the release Erik! Thanks! Does your new sound system or OpenAL itself allow you to specify the origin of a sound as an x/y/z offset from a central point? AeonWave allows for multiple sounds with an offset to a center point of an audio-frame. Moving or rotating the audio-frame influences the position and orientation if all registered sound emitters. So theoretically, you could locate a sound emitter at a tire contact point? Neat. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shader properties and dialog
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011, Arnt Karlsen wrote: Starting i.e. b29 and Material Shaders enabled. We can also share the issue in my log, I start with c172p at KSFO 10L and you take the b29 at 10R. ..easy now, I'm on the road with an eeepc that takes about 3-5 seconds of agony between each frame, so dream on on me on multiplayer. ;o) Talk about an excercise in total futility. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Southwest Colorado Scenery - beta 3
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011, J. Holden wrote: http://www.stattosoftware.com/flightgear/Durango.zip I have hope as the file size actually went down in this build, but perhaps something else went awry. The only change is remapping Scrub to ShrubCover. Please let me know if this works. In other news, this is 3 square degrees of scenery - I have now generated data for 24 of the 28 square degrees which make up the state of Colorado, so when this build works, watch out. You'll need to get a car model set up so you can race down Pike's Peak. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Splitting FGdata (again, but now for real)
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Hi, I started splitting fgdata this morning. Created a project to store FlightGear aircraft repositories, under https://gitorious.org/flightgear-aircraft More details are available on the wiki: http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_Git:_splitting_fgdata For some reason, this splitting seems to takes forever on Windows (like 25 minutes for the 744), while Jorg managed to split the F-f16 in 90 seconds on Linux! Jorg will run a script (being Cedric's script, or some homemade combination) to split all the other aircraft. @martin, I also have concerns about the easy-updating that we might loose. However, I found something called git submodules that might do the trick for us. There's a reference in the wiki article. Maybe someone with more git experience can comment on that one? I listed some cons and pros on the wiki, feel free to extend. Anyone's comments are welcome of course :) I would agree that it needs to be done, but if you wait around for a global consensus on the how, it's never going to happen. Just do it. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Suggested commit log change
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011, Martin Spott wrote: Hi Geoff, Geoff McLane wrote: OT: You know, something about your particular emails posts here... when I click [Reply] it does NOT fill in the address to the dev list... Personally I'm convinced that this is intentional, but I'll let Curt, the list maintainer, comment on the details. It's widely used practice _not_ to set the sender to the list address in order to save the list from bounce loops if the delivery to one of the recipients failes with a message which can't be properly identified as a delivery failure - and thus doesn't get caught by the usual measures. Martin, this is actually only seen with your messages. I use Alpine to read mail and your messages come in with this additional field shown in the header: Newsgroups: list.flightgear-devel When reply to your posts, it asks if I want to reply to the author, the newsgroup or both. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Suggested commit log change
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011, Martin Spott wrote: Gene Buckle wrote: Martin, this is actually only seen with your messages. I use Alpine to read mail and your messages come in with this additional field shown in the header: Newsgroups: list.flightgear-devel Ah yes, that's because I'm running a local INN (by more than 15 years of tradition) and reading all the mailing lists as newsgroups. Anyhow I still assume those EMails posted via tin/INN are formally correct - otherwise please advise. I suspect it's a problem on the mail client end. Some aren't so hot in following standards. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mapping Airspace
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, John Denker wrote: Here's another fun way of mapping airspace: You can get sectional charts in the form of .tif files from: http://www.aeronav.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=aeronav/applications/VFR/chartlist_sect John, do you know if they provide a version of that data that can be zoomed infinitely without pixelating? (ie. a vector based version of the same map) tnx! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mapping Airspace
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, Curtis Olson wrote: 11: RC Pilot. Stays under 400' AGL and outside a 3 mile radius from any airport. Probably flying at a club site and doesn't care about air spaces. Has no way to estimate if he's over or under 400' AGL and probably is flying a plane that can climb 500' per second and hover at 2 clicks of throttle. Is annoyed when a VIP flies into the big airport 30 miles away and his club field is just barely inside the TFR radius and he can't even go out there and fly a paper airplane for several hours. 11a: RC Pilot. Flies out of backyard whenever the hell he wants, regularly sees how high he can get using a 2lb electric Slow-Stik and a fancy altimeter downlink. Doesn't worry about how tiny a 40 model is at 2000ft, has FPV goggles for that. *laughs* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mapping Airspace
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, Curtis Olson wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, Curtis Olson wrote: 11: RC Pilot. Stays under 400' AGL and outside a 3 mile radius from any airport. Probably flying at a club site and doesn't care about air spaces. Has no way to estimate if he's over or under 400' AGL and probably is flying a plane that can climb 500' per second and hover at 2 clicks of throttle. Is annoyed when a VIP flies into the big airport 30 miles away and his club field is just barely inside the TFR radius and he can't even go out there and fly a paper airplane for several hours. 11a: RC Pilot. Flies out of backyard whenever the hell he wants, regularly sees how high he can get using a 2lb electric Slow-Stik and a fancy altimeter downlink. Doesn't worry about how tiny a 40 model is at 2000ft, has FPV goggles for that. 11b: Smart RC Pilot: Doesn't post publicly about his misadventures, and has never been above 400' or anywhere close to inside or above the clouds. *my* misadventures? Oh no sir, not mine. There's this awesome FPV forum that discusses such things(there's a video of a guy doing some _insane_ things with a flying wing in and around Rio) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Openstreetmap v. G**gl
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011, J. Holden wrote: For the USA, there is an interesting website chronicling some of these airports: http://www.airfields-freeman.com/ John, thanks for that link! I'm learning all sorts of neat things about the airfields that used to live in and around Tacoma, WA. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] substantial base package size increase
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Curtis Olson wrote: I just noticed when I pushed out the latest developer snapshot build that our setup.exe size has grown from about 410 Mb to 500+ Mb. I think (?) this may be the new dds textures? I'm not making a judgement, or calling for a particular action here, but it might be worth thinking/discussing if there is a way to push the size back down, or are we ok with 500Mb+ (1/2 a Gb) on our setup.exe size? You remember worrying about it when it crossed 10MB? :) Does the installer tool have a way to build a web installer that will allow the initial download to be small and then pull data down as it installs it? That would allow the introduction of some granularity in the installer as well - people could get the bits they want and not download the stuff they don't. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Malware Security Report: Protecting Your Business, Customers, and the Bottom Line. Protect your business and customers by understanding the threat from malware and how it can impact your online business. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51427462/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2 Questions about library prerequisites
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Curtis Olson wrote: I have 2 quick questions: 1. What is our official minimum version of OSG required for the v2.4 release? 2. What is our official minimum version of boost required for the v2.4 release? I'd like to make sure the information on our web site is accurate. You're updating the website?! *falls out of chair* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New aircraft: SF-25
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011, Viktor Radnai wrote: http://www.avatarzenekar.hu/files/P1020617.JPG http://www.avatarzenekar.hu/files/P1020618.JPG Am I the only one that noticed that someone has been mowing a lawn with that prop? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- uberSVN's rich system and user administration capabilities and model configuration take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. Learn more about uberSVN and get a free download at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] D-EEQA, the FlightGear C172
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Hi, just for the fun of it - here are 55 pictures of the Cessna's transportation from the tiny airfield of Wahlstedt (EDHW) to my home. http://www.c172fg.de/ That's just awesome. Thanks for the pics! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- uberSVN's rich system and user administration capabilities and model configuration take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. Learn more about uberSVN and get a free download at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.4.0: on short final
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Some off topic: Today, Martin and I started to prepare our new simulator for road transport. Enjoy some pics here: http://www.c172fg.de/ I cringe viewing those pictures. I certainly hope you're being careful enough to sell the usable bits to someone else. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- FREE DOWNLOAD - uberSVN with Social Coding for Subversion. Subversion made easy with a complete admin console. Easy to use, easy to manage, easy to install, easy to extend. Get a Free download of the new open ALM Subversion platform now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off the 3D cockpit
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, syd adams wrote: Its in the property tree , you can open the property browser and change the value there , or you could add it to the -set.xml file like i do: sim allow-toggle-cockpittrue/allow-toggle-cockpit /sim I wonder if this kind of thing would be a good candidate for inclusion in the fgrun tool? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Generic Protocol Error -- Error opening serial device COM27 The system cannot find the file specified.
On Sat, 6 Aug 2011, Derrick Washington wrote: OK, has anyone actually attempted this method, and got it too work, lol bcus I just tried it got the bluescreen of death twice. The syntax definitely does something but it also take the computer down, any suggestions? Typically when a BSOD happens it means that a driver or kernel process has lost its mind. Can you access that serial port with a terminal program without issue? Unless you've got 26 other serial ports on that machine, I'd strongly suggest researching what caused Windows to assign COM27 to your device. It's NOT typical behavior. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Generic Protocol Error -- Error opening serial device COM27 The system cannot find the file specified.
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Gene, Unless you've got 26 other serial ports on that machine, I'd strongly suggest researching what caused Windows to assign COM27 to your device. It's NOT typical behavior. You can assign any number you want to a COM port when it is driven by a USB-to-COM or Ethernet-to-COM adapter. Simply go to the Device Manager and set it between 1 and 255. I know that, but most of the time you don't specifically set a COM port number by hand - you let Windows pick the next un-used port #. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Generic Protocol Error -- Error opening serial device COM27 The system cannot find the file specified.
On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Curtis Olson wrote: I personally have never tested the generic protocol over a serial port on windows. I'm not sure I have tested any IO over a serial port on windows since the very early days of the project back when we were building with cygwin. I do recall at the time being (this is maybe 10 years ago at least?) being confused between using COM1 vs. COM1: (with a colon at the end.) I honestly don't remember which one worked and which one didn't. Have you tried it both ways? COM27 is also a suspicously(sp) high port#. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] Improved forests
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Stefan Seifert wrote: On Thursday 28 July 2011 01:00:10 Hal V. Engel wrote: But there is one minor and very common issue with the code that should be fixed. In the for loop for (..; ..; j++) should be for (..; ..; ++j) if you use j++ the compiler has to make a copy of j with each iteration of the loop but if you use ++j it does not have to make a copy. This will make the loop more efficient although only by a small amount. Are you sure about that? I just tried it with a little example and at least gcc compiles both variants to the exact same assembly code. Tried it with and without -O2. That would freak me out. Doesn't ++j mean increment j, then test whereas j++ means test j, then increment? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] Improved forests
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Jari Häkkinen wrote: Are you sure about that? I just tried it with a little example and at least gcc compiles both variants to the exact same assembly code. Tried it with and without -O2. That would freak me out. Doesn't ++j mean increment j, then test whereas j++ means test j, then increment? No, for a for loop for ( [1]; [2]; [3] ) where [3] is ++j will increment j before use. However, in an if-statement the complete statement [3] is evaluated before the test [2] is done. If the compiler is smart it will produce the fastest binary code regardless ++j or j++. However, if the [3] is more complicated like a hypothetical i = ++j + k the compiler will most probably generate different binary code (compared to i = ++j + k). Right, but j++ will increment _after_ it's used, correct? So how could ++j vs j++ generate the same assembly code and be correct? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.-- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads Up: GIT maintenance tomorrow (Sunday 08:00 UTC)
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Torsten Dreyer wrote: will post a message on this list when I am about to start and after I have finished (or screwed up the whole thing). Thanks for your cooperation Torsten Thank you for your hard work Torsten! It's hugely appriciated! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG 2.4 consistency
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Martin Spott wrote: grth_team wrote: How are you walking ? on the head ? since you reverse the priority. The answer from these devel team persons, was a joke, at least to us, I think this flavour of 'feedback' is not worth discussing. Martin, I suspect that there is a _drastic_ translation issue involved. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt - I don't think his intention was to be a jerk about it. It may just be either his command of English or the translation engine he used that gives the message the hard edge it has. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release Progress
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Torsten Dreyer wrote: To make sure, our streams are in a consistent state when I create and tag the branches, please make sure not to push _any_ commits to simgear, flightgear and fgdata after Sunday, July 17th 2011 08:00 UTC until further advice ( hi Gene :-) ). Lucky for you, all I do is push buttons. :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Base Package branch, master, updated. 0b8dee0f4611f0e90478f48d58951995fbe87069
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Flightgear-commitlogs -- Saturday 09 July 2011: commit 0b8dee0f4611f0e90478f48d58951995fbe87069 Author: ThorstenB Date: Sat Jul 9 12:45:42 2011 +0200 bo105: make sim reset work when helicopter crashed On sim reset properly uncrash the airframe and do not install listeners again. The bo105 is maintained by *me*, and nobody is allowed to make commits other than adaptations to changes in the api or framework -- let's say, Yeah, good luck with that. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] A new goodie for FlightGear presentations
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Hi all, The conversion into a static simulator will take place at my house some 60km south of the airfield, so we will start slicing the bird into smaller chunks for transportation on a truck. This will happen very soon and I fear, it will be the heart-breaking part of this story. I would recommend you do your disassembly very carefully as you'll be able to recoup your costs by selling off the parts you don't need! The wings tail should help pay for the whole thing by themselves. :) Congrats and great job guys! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] A new goodie for FlightGear presentations
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011, Hal V. Engel wrote: On Thursday, June 30, 2011 02:31:15 PM Torsten Dreyer wrote: The instruments will be replaced by TFT displays and certainly all controls will be functional, I'd even love to see the control surface move, have force- feedback and (dreaming...) Have you considered using something like this: http://www.simkits.com/products.php?groupid=54 These guys sell fairly compete 172 panels and the protocall/interface to Hal, for the money they'd be better off buying a copy of Mike Powell's Buiding Simulated Aircraft Instruments and building the Big Six from scratch. I've got the book and it's very, very well done. See http://www.mikesflightdeckbooks.com g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal: Move airplanes to an SVN repository
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011, Martin Spott wrote: As a general rule I'd propose to make a clear distinction between a) datasets, b) hosting sites and c) protocols or revision control systems (at least). Some people are implying SVN when talking about hosting large datasets, others are implying Gitorious when talking about GIT. Continuing this mixup will be prohibitory to distilling a coherent result from the discussion. I'd be happy to host some kind of startup service that would at least get the ball rolling. Once it's ready, it could be mirrored so as not to totally hammer my net connection. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Matrox TripleHead2Go
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Buenos Dias Ezequiel and welcome aboard! We have a fairly complex multi-monitor display setup on our presentation machine. You can find our configuration from last year's FSweekend at http://wiki.flightgear.org/FSweekend_2010. In rendering.xml, the first two camera entries show how to define viewports within one single window. You can define the frustum or perspective for each single viewport. For the correction of the parabolic distortion, I have no idea. But I remember that there was something presented along with the collimated display http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_Newsletter_November_2010#Amateur_built_collimated_display Maybe Gene or Tim can chime in here? I'm using essentially the same setup - a Digital TripleHeat2Go mated to a NVidia GTX260 on one end and three Epson 705HD projectors on the other. However, I'm using NThusim+ for the image distortion and some pretty awesome Excel hackery that Wayne created in order to handle some of the parabolic distortion issues. I know there was some work done in order to pre-warp the output from FG, but I'm not sure what the status of that is. Because of NThusim+, I wasn't paying that close attention to it (and I should have been). g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Manager...
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi Gene, On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 21:43:36 Gene Buckle wrote: In thinking about it a bit and being reminded of the existing HLA interface that FlightGear has, I'm leaning toward proposing something built with Python and the PyQT4 GUI library. Both components are cross-platform and there is a Python binding for the CERTI HLA library (PyHLA). Well you can use PyHLA - That should just work with any RTI-1.3 library. But, did you try OpenRTI? I haven't tried anything yet. I'm still tossing the idea around in my head and trying to decide if I want to learn yet _another_ toolkit (PyQT4, PyGUI or whatever else). My main issue is that I'm primarily a Windows developer and I don't have much interest in cross-platform anything. :) There is a python binding included for the newer rti1516 standard. And in fact I have some python glue code that makes it easy to do python clients with that binding. We have run all this at LinuxTag. Including a small python script that prvides an ogle doing cirgles around a fixed point just as a demo how this What's an ogle? The idea here is to create a stand-alone application that replaces all the built-in GUI functionality and communicates with FlightGear via the HLA interface. When the manager application meets that goal, the existing GUI can be either removed completely or simply unbound at compile time so it's not available. Yes, in the long term this could be kind of a plan. I can see several components in this area: The viewer. That was the original reason I started fgviewer. I want to have a pure viewer application that does not do any simulation. I've never used fgviewer so I'm not sure what it does. The simulated aircraft. This includes *all* subsystems that belong to this particular aircraft. This must be done in a way that you can run several of these in a single federation. The management application wouldn't be running any of the sub-systems, just observing them. One of the issues that caught me up short was the requirement to sift through the chosen aircrafts configuration and Nasal files in order to take into account all the little custom menu items and controls that would have to be replicated on the manager interface. That was pretty discouraging all by itself. I think the scope of what you've got in mind and what I've got in mind are widely seperated. :) My initial concept would essentially perform the same functions as the instructor console in a commercial FFS. You could tweak any parameter of the simulator from that point, including aircraft selection, position, configuration, etc. This app wouldn't be running on the same machine as the simulator scene generator itself. (What would be neat is a three machine setup - one for the scene generator, one for the flight/systems model and one for the instructor/manager console.) I think I need to sit down and do a proper outline of what I see going into this and where it could go. I'd rather not create something like this organically. It could get ugly quick that way. Thanks for the detailed info Mathias! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.-- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shaders and ATI Radeon HD 4670
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011, Vivian Meazza wrote: The most _likely_ cause is the ATI Radeon HD 4670/256 MB VRAM. The GeForce 8600M GT is known to be better at handling shaders. 256 Mb VRAM is in both cases a bit small for FG nowadays. There are other possible contributors to a low framerate - AI traffic is one. Wow. That's an incredibly small amount of video RAM for a video card that new. Can you upgrade it to something with more RAM? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Manager...
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011, Alasdair Campbell wrote: in fact I have some python glue code that makes it easy to do python clients with that binding. We have run all this at LinuxTag. Including a small python script that prvides an ogle doing cirgles around a fixed point just as a demo how this What's an ogle? An ogle is very similar in many respects to the aircraft of which you are the proud owner. Major difference is that it is assembled out of platic bricks made by a famous Danish manufacturer (hint: anagram ogle) Try fgfs --aircraft=ogle. :) Hehe. Neat. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download /built-interrasync
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, ThorstenB wrote: On 23.06.2011 00:32, Vivian Meazza wrote: Looks like a white space issue to me. When svn.exe is in the path I get: Starting automatic scenery download/synchronization. Using external SVN utility 'svn'. Directory: 'D:/Git_New/terrasync'. The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect. Enclosing all paths in quotes, i.e. calling c:\Program Files\foo\svn.exe checkout d:\white space instead of c:\Program Files\foo\svn.exe checkout d:\white space usually fixes white-space issues when building command-lines. It does so for Linux (and pretty sure Mac). But as you report, apparently it doesn't help with Windows. Have you tried quoting the entire command line to see if that helps? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Build server update..
I've updated the Hudson server to use Jenkins. The system seems to be doing just fine after the upgrade. :) James - you'll need to update the client on your Mac build machine. tnx. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Website update?
Curt - would it be possible for you to change the Developers link on the main FlightGear page? Can the CVS Resource and Source Code menu items be condensed down to a Portal link that points to this wiki link: http://wiki.flightgear.org/Portal:Developer ...or give me access and I'll do it. :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal updating properties in the menu
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Hal V. Engel wrote: I need to over ride one of the default menu items so that I can use a custom menu. After some effort I have figured out what needs to be changed in the property tree. The code looks like this: # Disable the menu item Equipment radio so we use our own gui. gui.menuEnable(radio,0); # override default radio menu setprop(sim/bindings/menu/binding[35]/dialog-name, SCR-522C-radio); setprop(sim/menubar/default/menu[5]/item[3]/binding/dialog-name, SCR-522C-radio); setprop(sim/menubar/default/menu[5]/item[3]/name, SCR-522C-radio); gui.menuEnable(SCR-522C-radio,1); And this is working. But I am concerned that if the menus should be changed (IE. items added or removed) that this would no longer be correct and the code will start failing. Is that true? If so ithere a better way to do this sort of thing? I would REALLY suggest the use of named constants instead of hard-coded values. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Csaba Halász wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: the final GUI bits for a new feature are now in fgdata - the last feature addition for the 2.4 release from my part... You can download/update scenery directly from FlightGear now (main menu: Environment = Scenery). Credit for the idea goes to James - bugs are mine ;-). For the record, I don't think we are going in the right direction with this. I personally think more modules should be split out rather than integrated. For example, all the GUI stuff should be thrown out and left to a launcher/control console application. We could then get rid of plib and avoid the what gui toolkit to use controversy (at least for the core FG). FDM and visualization should also be split, obviously with multiple instances allowed of either. I really, really, like this idea. When was the last time CAE shipped a simulator that had a drop down menu appear in the visual system? :) All the functionality in the GUI could be provided in a stand-alone tool that talked to the simulator. You could run it on one machine or on a dedicated machine. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.-- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync
talked to the simulator. You could run it on one machine or on a dedicated machine. Gah. Brain to fast for fingers! You could run it on the SAME machine..or on a dedicated machine... *facepalm* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Martin Spott wrote: This is not consistent with Gene's, Csaba's and Ron's view. If you read carefully, then you'll realize that these three guys have primarily expressed their opinion on wether to have the GUI inside the visual system or not. Precisely. I was offering my support for folding _all_ the GUI features into a completely stand-alone application. This is actually an area that I'd be happy to contribute to as long as people don't mind my excrible C++ code. (you could make me a happy man if I could write it in Lazarus. :D ) There's no reason the management application couldn't run on the same computer as the simulator itself. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Manager...
In thinking about it a bit and being reminded of the existing HLA interface that FlightGear has, I'm leaning toward proposing something built with Python and the PyQT4 GUI library. Both components are cross-platform and there is a Python binding for the CERTI HLA library (PyHLA). The idea here is to create a stand-alone application that replaces all the built-in GUI functionality and communicates with FlightGear via the HLA interface. When the manager application meets that goal, the existing GUI can be either removed completely or simply unbound at compile time so it's not available. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Vivian Meazza wrote: This is indeed more or less consistent with those opinions. Csaba says: For example, all the GUI stuff should be thrown out and left to a launcher/control console application. Gene says: All the functionality in the GUI could be provided in a stand-alone tool that talked to the simulator. Ron says that he supports Csaba. I said: I'm happy to set this all up, and more, in a separate GUI. How is my view inconsistent? The one wrench in the works is aircraft (and their systems) that add entries to the GUI menu items... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Vivian Meazza wrote: The one wrench in the works is aircraft (and their systems) that add entries to the GUI menu items... If you can generate a better way, or even an alternate way - I'll look at it. Until then you're stuck with it. I have the option of being able to just punt and keep using FSX. :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, ThorstenB wrote: absolutely unable to motivate - or at least keep people motivated on working on our project. That's a major issue we have. Everyone who spends time is welcomed by negative comments - and surprisingly many leave. And I'm sorry to say, after reading emails like the above, I do have difficulties in keeping myself motivated. That's completely understandable. The bickering does get a bit old and I'm just as guilty as others in my participation in it. :( FlightGear has been around as a going project since 1997. I've hung around the edges of the project this whole time, some times more active than others. I've not contributed a lot of code, but I've tried to push in the right spots periodically. I suspect if I get within arms' reach of Curt, I'm a cooked geek. :) FlightGear has some of the best systems simulation interfaces I've seen. It's easy to use and frankly, on par with what FSX/ESP/Prepar3d offers in terms of ability. The flight modeling is right up there as well - JSBSim has a great tendency to wipe the floor with the blood-encrusted remains of what FSX calls a flight model. One thing that really lacks is the scene generator. I'm not really interested in why it's like that, but it is something that should be addressed. I'm absolutely not going to point fingers - frankly, I'm not qualified and it wouldn't really solve anything. What needs to happen is a post mortem of it. Outstanding issues need to be identified, they need to be triaged and they need to be addressed. These things need to be committed to paper (e or otherwise) before any code is written in order to prevent any ugly surprises down the road. FlightGear is a huge, complex project and has no kind of real project management at all. If that is not addressed, the mad rush in generally the same direction will eventually lead to the end of FlightGear. Be it a fork or just developer apathy, it's going to end. I'll put my hat in the ring to take over this duty - I figure I've annoyed just about every developer on the list, which everyone knows is the hallmark of a good manager. :) However, if it's not me, it MUST be someone. We need to be organized and we need it badly. The best way to get this herd of cats moving is to stuff 'em all in a long narrow hallway with a really angry dog on the end you don't want them moving towards. :) Woof. :) It's your call guys. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airport Textures (Again)
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Vivian Meazza wrote: Hi Syd Your biggest beef is the lack of any kind of absence in discussion about this textures and realted shaders, and help to improve them. So please stop to blame my work here in the list when you're not interested in any kind of contribution anymore. Of course, it might just be the damned translation engines again but ... Yves - no one's work is immune from criticism: not yours or mine. Syd has contributed much to this project over the years. His opinion is as valid (or invalid) as anyone else's. Let's all try to pull in the same direction. I've got this sneaking suspicion that 90% of the problems here are caused by two people, separated by a common language translating engine. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Compile and Hudson builds
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, ThorstenB wrote: Ok, thanks. And let us know if the libsvn issue is still there. CMake worked on Hudson (Linux/Mac) - but we're missing the MSVC build machine for a few days now. Does the Windows slave just need a reboot - or is anything broken? The service on the machine needed to be restarted. Please guys - if you notice something odd, please don't wait a few days to let me know about it. I check my email nearly as often as I breathe and the machine is in my office at home. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airport Textures (Again)
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, HB-GRAL wrote: Am 13.06.11 19:36, schrieb Gene Buckle: I've got this sneaking suspicion that 90% of the problems here are caused by two people, separated by a common language translating engine. :) g. Hm, I guess you can say 100 %, at least on my side. Just found to buckle sideways in a tranlating engine ... but I do not go further with that, I’m going for new and better textures, when I find the time ;-) Ok, now THAT is funny. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.-- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pro Flight Simulator
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Michael Sgier wrote: http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/cards_and_casino/flight-simulation_xcuh.html how long should we tolerate such... Tolerate? Pfft. Just flag it as a scam and move on. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear gitorious repository corrupted ?
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Frederic Bouvier wrote: -Fred works here with the git:// url: $ git clone -o origin git://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear.git essai the http:// url fails in the same fashion as your tries. Thank you Emilian, I didn't notice the http:// stuff. I will change the Hudson url when I have a chance. I just changed it and triggered a build. We'll see how it goes. :) (and it appears to be working! Thanks Emilian! [a million? :) ] ) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear gitorious repository corrupted ?
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Frederic Bouvier wrote: - Gene Buckle a écrit : On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Frederic Bouvier wrote: -Fred works here with the git:// url: $ git clone -o origin git://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear.git essai the http:// url fails in the same fashion as your tries. Thank you Emilian, I didn't notice the http:// stuff. I will change the Hudson url when I have a chance. I just changed it and triggered a build. We'll see how it goes. :) (and it appears to be working! Thanks Emilian! [a million? :) ] ) Gene, please leave the win64 disabled. 64bit versions are already built by the 32bit task. Done! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.-- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pro Flight Simulator
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Robert wrote: Look what I have found on Dailymotion: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgg2j5_next-generation-flight-simulator-2011-2012-demo_videogames http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh4vzn_pro-flight-simulator-2011-review-1_videogames http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh4w27_pro-flight-simulator-2011-review-2_videogames http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh4w30_pro-flight-simulator-2011-review-3_videogames http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xj2pya_flight-simulator-2011-pro_videogames Don't know how to report scam on dailymotion :( Robert, all you need to do is click the Report button that's right under the player and then fill out the form that pops up. There's no apparent reason code for Scam, so you'll need to pick Other and then explain. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pro Flight Simulator
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..protection under the GPL, depends on a willingness on the part of the copyright owners to actually exercise their rights under copyright law to defend or enforce their copyrights. Arnt, while the PFS guys are doing morally despicable things, they're not (at least to my knowledge) violating copyright, nor the GPL. You REALLY need to STFU until you know what you're talking about. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrain engine
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Martin Spott wrote: ..easy now, without a willingness to defend FlightGear copyright, Just a repetition of the above. Oh my, what an outstanding example of canned nonsense, Yeah, but he stamps New and Improved! on his can of nonsense, so it's ok, right? *snickers* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
