* till busch -- Thursday 10 April 2008:
Currently Aircraft/ is ~1200 MB on cvs. So yes. I think we can easily afford
100 or 200 MB for cheap ai models.
I don't mind spending 200MB for something useful. But I think that 200MB
for a mere duplication of existing files is a waste.
I'd opt for
--- On Wed, 9/4/08, Durk Talsma wrote:
I do forsee that adding loads of AI aircraft could add to
the size of the
release version of the base package. That being the case,
we could consider
spawning off a separately downloadable, optional AI
aircraft package
(including not only aircraft,
-- On Wed, 9/4/08, AJ MacLeod wrote:
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 16:20:05 Stuart Buchanan wrote:
How about the following
- Maximum size 250KB.
- All textures converted to PNG and scaled to 1/4 size
in both dimensions.
Does that seem reasonable?
I think we have two slightly
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Stuart Buchanan wrote:
--- On Wed, 9/4/08, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
Do we really want MP support for all aircraft in the base
package, at a cost of an extra 200 MB of data? Wrappers are fine
(like Vivian described), but do we want a complete concorde.ac with all
--- On Wed, 9/4/08, Vivian Meazza wrote:
1. A long time ago in the early days of MP the policy was
agreed: If you
don't have it you don't see it. No glider, no
ufo, nothing. And AFAIK
that's still the case. IF we want to depart from this
long standing policy,
then that's a slightly
--- On Wed, 9/4/08, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
* Stuart Buchanan -- Wednesday 09 April 2008:
--- On Wed, 9/4/08, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
So, please let's discuss that first, before
anyone
dumps more of that stuff into $FG_ROOT/AI/!
Hence my original post - discussion is good.
Yes,
On Thursday 10 April 2008 09:19:04 Stuart Buchanan wrote:
Without wanting to put words into his mouth, I assume that is Melchior's
(and others) main concern, rather than the size of our CVS repository
itself.
My main concern would rather be the infliction of low poly, blurry textured,
largely
Hi all,
Stuart Buchanan wrote:
I think the v1.0 release has seen a step-change in the use of FG.
There are a large number of new (often quite young) users who are
generally inhabit the forums rather than the lists. They are tending
to use MP all the time, as it is part of their
On Thursday 10 April 2008 09:36:36 Stuart Buchanan wrote:
Mea culpa. I screwed up and should have posted before committing. My
apologies to all. This idea was a lot more contentious than I expected at
the time...
Hey, we needed something to argue about to resuscitate the list ;-)
Cheers,
AJ
Hello,
I think this is worthwhile as:
1) It will mean that for the next release, all MP users will be able to see all
the other users, even if they don't have a specific aircraft installed.
2) A dedicated AI model is cheaper than a heavily LoD'd aircraft model.
3) For the majority of aircraft,
* Stuart Buchanan -- Wednesday 09 April 2008:
- Use ImageMagick to convert any .rgb textures to png.
We certainly don't want redundant texture duplicates in $FG_ROOT/AI/.
Did you scale them down or do anything else that justifies this step?
If not, then just refer to the original textures
--- On Wed, 9/4/08, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
We certainly don't want redundant texture duplicates in
$FG_ROOT/AI/.
Did you scale them down or do anything else that justifies
this step?
If not, then just refer to the original textures
(converting those to PNG if you want).
As I mentioned in my
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 08:37, Stuart Buchanan wrote:
[snip...]
I'd like to create more AI aircraft, but obviously this is
something that might step on the toes of the aircraft
maintainers. So, if you are an aircraft maintainer, and would be
happy for me to create an AI version of your
* Stuart Buchanan -- Wednesday 09 April 2008:
As I mentioned in my reply to Vivian, I don't want any dependency
on the Aircraft tree,
You don't want that, fine. And *I* don't want a parallel structure
of aircraft with megabytes of duplicated files.
So, please let's discuss that first, before
Melchior FRANZ wrote
* Stuart Buchanan -- Wednesday 09 April 2008:
As I mentioned in my reply to Vivian, I don't want any
dependency on
the Aircraft tree,
You don't want that, fine. And *I* don't want a parallel
structure of aircraft with megabytes of duplicated files.
So,
What are AI Aircraft models?
Lee
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
* Stuart Buchanan -- Wednesday 09 April 2008:
As I mentioned in my reply to Vivian, I don't want any dependency
on the Aircraft tree,
You don't want that, fine. And *I* don't want a parallel structure
of aircraft with megabytes
--- On Wed, 9/4/08, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
* Stuart Buchanan -- Wednesday 09 April 2008:
As I mentioned in my reply to Vivian, I don't want
any dependency
on the Aircraft tree,
You don't want that, fine. And *I* don't want a
parallel structure of aircraft with megabytes of duplicated
- Maximum size 250KB.
- All textures converted to PNG and scaled to 1/4
size in both dimensions.
Does that seem reasonable?
-Stuart
Hi,
I like the idea by Stuart. But the discussion sounds
like we will have a next release in a few weeks.
And will it be for sure that the next
- Maximum size 250KB.
- All textures converted to PNG and scaled to 1/4
size in both dimensions.
Does that seem reasonable?
-Stuart
Hi,
I like the idea by Stuart. But the discussion sounds
like we will have a next release in a few weeks.
And will it be for sure that the next
To M.S., who sent me a private hate-mail: don't do that! Better send
that to the list for public entertainment. One doesn't see often
how a grown up man goes *that* low and throws away all remaining
credibility and decency!
I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one:
O Lord
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 15:38, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
* Stuart Buchanan -- Wednesday 09 April 2008:
As I mentioned in my reply to Vivian, I don't want any dependency
on the Aircraft tree,
You don't want that, fine. And *I* don't want a parallel structure
of aircraft with megabytes of
Georg Vollnhals wrote
Durk Talsma schrieb:
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 15:38, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
* Stuart Buchanan -- Wednesday 09 April 2008:
As I mentioned in my reply to Vivian, I don't want any
dependency on
the Aircraft tree,
You don't want that, fine.
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
To M.S., who sent me a private hate-mail: don't do that! Better send
that to the list for public entertainment. One doesn't see often
how a grown up man goes *that* low and throws away all remaining
credibility and decency!
I have never made but one prayer to God, a
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