Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread Martin Spott
Cedric Sodhi wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:28:33AM +0300, thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: >> You seem to entertain the idea of a free lunch - get the goodies which >> being part of the Flightgear project has to offer, but keeping the freedom >> to do what you want. That may be a positive creat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread Curtis Olson
I missed a day being offline yesterday, and now I see there's no way I'm going to be able to read every message in this thread word for word and catch (and acknowledge) every nuance of every point being made. So let me just say what I'm thinking, which probably echos the sentiments of the other lo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread syd adams
Im still not sleeping , so thanks for clearing things up. I for one like the aircraft split , just awaiting the require permissions.Will be nice to get my own work up to date without risking breaking something elsewhere in fgdata . Cheers On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 5:42 AM, James Turner wrote: > > O

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread James Turner
On 19 Oct 2011, at 12:27, thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: > Most of us are adult people, and most of the time we are able to act like > civilized people, i.e. we can work out things in a reasonable way without > invoking the law and waving license around. There are some rules for > emergency cases

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread thorsten . i . renk
> I would have happily continued to > maintain/upgrade them , and I,m hoping this change might make things > easier ... but if Im now being told that my work can be changed > without any notice to me , that i have no say over my own > contributions, then I wont waste any more time here. I think th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread James Turner
On 19 Oct 2011, at 11:53, syd adams wrote: > while the central repository is a fine > idea , after the move to git , I lost any commit rights to my own > work, so after a time i gave up on the idea of maintaining them and > started my own repositories . I would have happily continued to > mainta

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread syd adams
Just to add my own 2 cents while the central repository is a fine idea , after the move to git , I lost any commit rights to my own work, so after a time i gave up on the idea of maintaining them and started my own repositories . I would have happily continued to maintain/upgrade them , and I,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Cedric Sodhi wrote: >> other developers may take care of your work when you're not around, >> others will feel responsible to provide support if they can,...). > > I think we have sufficiently seen how other people's work is taken care > of after they leave. And ho

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread thorsten . i . renk
> This is exactly the "deal" which I think you are rather hurting yourself > with. I allege, that contributers of planes are not looking to make a > deal with you, at least I would not. First, you're talking to the wrong person. I'm not Thorsten B, I am Thorsten R, and I do not represent the core

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread Gijs de Rooy
I'd loke to note that I listed pros and cons at the wiki. Some people contributed, some didn't. Rather than turning this into a me/we-vs-you/they fight I'd like to see that people sit down and add their thoughts (and facts) to the wiki. Makes it easier/healthier for all of us ;) http://wiki.fl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread Cedric Sodhi
Hello again, I would like to add that I agree, that making any implication about whether authors *should* migrate their planes to their own repos, was wrong. There is of course no reason to turn them away, if only, there is a reason to request them to be part of the central Gitorious-Account (as i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread Cedric Sodhi
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:28:33AM +0300, thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: > > As for the topic brought up here, I sense a bit of sentimentalism > > clouding the technical judgment of some. > (...) > > In a positive creative development structure you leave the contributors > > their freedom. > > > > "

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-19 Thread thorsten . i . renk
> As for the topic brought up here, I sense a bit of sentimentalism > clouding the technical judgment of some. (...) > In a positive creative development structure you leave the contributors > their freedom. > > "Contribute your planes!" rather than "Come to Gitorious, ask for our > permission to g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-18 Thread Ron Jensen
On Tuesday 18 October 2011 15:56:54 Cedric Sodhi wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 09:46:58PM +0200, Gijs de Rooy wrote: > >Hi all! > > > >> Cedric wrote: > >> ManDay, on behalf of the Split-Team ^^ > >> > >> ThorstenB wrote: > >> I don't think this is what we agreed upon. >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-18 Thread Cedric Sodhi
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 09:46:58PM +0200, Gijs de Rooy wrote: >Hi all! > >> Cedric wrote: >> ManDay, on behalf of the Split-Team ^^ > >> ThorstenB wrote: >> I don't think this is what we agreed upon. > >I'd like to mention that Cedric did not wrote his email "on my behalf

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-18 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi all! > Cedric wrote: > ManDay, on behalf of the Split-Team ^^ > ThorstenB wrote: > I don't think this is what we agreed upon. I'd like to mention that Cedric did not wrote his email "on my behalf" nor on Jorg's. Cedric has been a great help (most of this wouldn't be possible withou

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-18 Thread ThorstenB
On 18.10.2011 18:24, Cedric Sodhi wrote: > All aircraft related development shall henceforth be performed on > repositories which are maintained by the respective authors. > > It is planned that most of the repositories on > > https://gitorious.org/flightgear-aircraft > > will be dissolved over tim