Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-06 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Jon S. Berndt wrote:

 How does one do updates via git? And how will we know when the propeller has
 been fixed?

Hi Jon,

If you don't do local changes updating is as easy as cd:ing into fgdata 
(and the respective source repositories) and type 'git pull'.
'git log' will list all changes with the latest first (it is automatically 
using a pager so there is no need to pipe the output to more or similar).

If you do local changes you can commit them locally using 'git add' and 
'git commit'. 'git status' and 'git diff' are also useful commands.
To merge your local changes with upstream commits on the origin master 
branch you can either do

git fetch;   (downloads new changes done to the remote branches)
git merge origin/master (origin/next for the source repros)
   (merges the branch origin/master into your current local branch)

or, and this is my preferred method,

git fetch;
git rebase origin/master (origin/next for the source repros)

The later approach keeps your local changes first (most recent) in the 
history of your local branch. Essentially as if you committed all 
your local changes on top of the most recent state of upstream branch.

However, a branch that you rebase regularly should not be published for 
others since each rebase changes the commit ids your local commits in the 
branch.

Btw. all git commands should display their respective manual page by
'git command --help'
One of many good resources on git usage:
http://progit.org/book/

Cheers,

Anders
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-06 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
 Whoops!

 That was me not check-flying the aircraft properly before committing.

 I'll get it fixed shortly.

 -Stuart

 How does one do updates via git? And how will we know when the propeller has
 been fixed?

It's fixed in git now.

You can see the latest fixes on gitorious.org.

-Stuart

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-06 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 Hi Jon,
 
 If you don't do local changes updating is as easy as cd:ing into fgdata

Done.

 (and the respective source repositories)

How do I do this?

 and type 'git pull'.

JB




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-06 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Sunday, September 05, 2010 10:30:06 am Frederic Bouvier wrote:
  2) I'd like the aircraft to start up at the end of the runway, all ready
  for takeoff. Can I do that?
 
 You need to press the 's' key to start the engine. There should be a
 property to have the engine started but I don't know which one. If you
 know it, you can start fgfs with the --prop:/property/to/start/engine=true

Doesn't this depend on the aircraft?  Some aircraft will not run without 
certain conditions being in place.  For example the JSBSIm P-51D needs to have 
the fuel pump turned on, the fuel cutoff in the on position, the mixture in run 
or full rich and the mags turned on among other things to run. 

A quick search on-line found a number of references to setting 
/engines/engine[0]/running=true to have a running engine.  I just tested 
setting the above property with the JSBSim P-51D and it was not running when 
flightgear started.   This is not surprising because it had no fuel and the 
ignition was off at that point. 

The startup procedure for the JSBSim P-51D is documented in aircraft help 
where there is a complete set of check lists including one for the start up 
procedure.

Hal
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-06 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Like  this?

git pull git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git

??

Which branch should I specify?

Jon


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 Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 11:26 AM
 To: 'FlightGear developers discussions'
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista
 
  Hi Jon,
 
  If you don't do local changes updating is as easy as cd:ing into
 fgdata
 
 Done.
 
  (and the respective source repositories)
 
 How do I do this?
 
  and type 'git pull'.
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-06 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Monday, September 06, 2010 09:29:50 am Jon S. Berndt wrote:
 Like  this?
 
 git pull git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git
 
 ??
 
 Which branch should I specify?
 
 Jon

No from the root directory of your local copy just git pull and git will 
handle updating anything that needs it.

 
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  From: Jon S. Berndt [mailto:jonsber...@comcast.net]
  Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 11:26 AM
  To: 'FlightGear developers discussions'
  Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista
  
   Hi Jon,
   
   If you don't do local changes updating is as easy as cd:ing into
  
  fgdata
  
  Done.
  
   (and the respective source repositories)
  
  How do I do this?
  
   and type 'git pull'.
  
  JB
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Jon,

- Jon S. Berndt a écrit :

  On Sat, 4 Sep 2010, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
  
   Which directory should one be under when they execute the git
  command?
  
  Hi,
  
  You should be in the directory where you want to have the fgdata
  directory, i.e. git creates fgdata in the current directory.
  Cloning will download about 2.5GB of data so it will take a good
 while.
  If gitorious is slow you can also clone from
  http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/fgdata
  
   Is there anything that needs to be done afterwards when the data
 is
  all
   downloaded, or is FlightGear ready to run at that point?
  
  FlightGear should be ready to run at that point. Use the
  --fg-root=/path/to/fgdata
  argument to point FlightGear to the fgdata directory - it probably
  won't
  find it otherwise.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Anders
 
 
 Here's how I ran FlightGear, but it did not like the command:
 
 $ FlightGear/projects/VC90/Win32/Release/fgfs
 --fg-root=/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/
 
 
 Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at:
 /home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/
 Please upgrade to version: 2.0.0
 Hit a key to continue...
 
 I just downloaded the base package today as directed via git.
 
 What am I doing wrong?

Start a Windows command prompt and the command line should be something like

$ FlightGear/projects/VC90/Win32/Release/fgfs 
--fg-root=c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/

Anyway, you can use forward slash, but must have a drive letter at the start.
Found version [none] means there is no base package at the path specified, more 
likely because the
path is not understood

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 Start a Windows command prompt and the command line should be something
 like
 
 $ FlightGear/projects/VC90/Win32/Release/fgfs --fg-
 root=c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/
 
 Anyway, you can use forward slash, but must have a drive letter at the
 start.
 Found version [none] means there is no base package at the path
 specified, more likely because the
 path is not understood
 
 -Fred

That helped, but now I am getting different errors:

--- start ---
$ FlightGear/projects/VC90/Win32/Release/fgfs 
--fg-root=c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/
Processing command line arguments
using aircraft-dir 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/splash.png
Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/splash.png.
Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
using aircraft-dir 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/c172-sound.xml
using aircraft-dir 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml
Failed to load model: Failed to load 3D model:
from:Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml
...
--- end ---

Yet all of the plugins are clearly accessible. For example,

which osg2cpp

Yields:

/home/jon/flightgear/install/msvc90/OpenSceneGraph/bin/osg2cpp

The cygwin bash command line recognizes the path, but it seems that FlightGear 
may not recognize the path. How does this work in Linux?

Jon




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 That helped, but now I am getting different errors:
 
 --- start ---
 $ FlightGear/projects/VC90/Win32/Release/fgfs --fg-
 root=c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/
 Processing command line arguments
 using aircraft-dir
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/splash.png
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/splash.png.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 using aircraft-dir
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/c172-sound.xml
 using aircraft-dir
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.x
 ml
 Failed to load model: Failed to load 3D model:
 from:Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml
 ...
 --- end ---
 
 Yet all of the plugins are clearly accessible. For example,
 
 which osg2cpp
 
 Yields:
 
 /home/jon/flightgear/install/msvc90/OpenSceneGraph/bin/osg2cpp
 
 The cygwin bash command line recognizes the path, but it seems that
 FlightGear may not recognize the path. How does this work in Linux?
 
 Jon

I even went to a Windows command shell and got the same results. What is
FlightGear looking for, and why can it not find it?

Jon



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Frederic Bouvier
try to remove the trailing slash, or use fgrun that is in the official 2.0.0 
package

-Fred

- Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net a écrit :

  That helped, but now I am getting different errors:
  
  --- start ---
  $ FlightGear/projects/VC90/Win32/Release/fgfs --fg-
  root=c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/
  Processing command line arguments
  using aircraft-dir
  for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/splash.png
  Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
  c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/splash.png.
  Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
  c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
  Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
  c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
  Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
  c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
  using aircraft-dir
 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/c172-sound.xml
  using aircraft-dir
 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.x
  ml
  Failed to load model: Failed to load 3D model:
  from:Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml
  ...
  --- end ---
  
  Yet all of the plugins are clearly accessible. For example,
  
  which osg2cpp
  
  Yields:
  
  /home/jon/flightgear/install/msvc90/OpenSceneGraph/bin/osg2cpp
  
  The cygwin bash command line recognizes the path, but it seems that
  FlightGear may not recognize the path. How does this work in Linux?
  
  Jon
 
 I even went to a Windows command shell and got the same results. What
 is
 FlightGear looking for, and why can it not find it?
 
 Jon
 
 
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Alan Teeder

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From: Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net
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To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' 
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 That helped, but now I am getting different errors:

 --- start ---
 $ FlightGear/projects/VC90/Win32/Release/fgfs --fg-
 root=c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/
 Processing command line arguments
 using aircraft-dir
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/splash.png
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/splash.png.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 using aircraft-dir
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/c172-sound.xml
 using aircraft-dir
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.x
 ml
 Failed to load model: Failed to load 3D model:
 from:Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml
 ...
 --- end ---

 Yet all of the plugins are clearly accessible. For example,

 which osg2cpp

 Yields:

 /home/jon/flightgear/install/msvc90/OpenSceneGraph/bin/osg2cpp

 The cygwin bash command line recognizes the path, but it seems that
 FlightGear may not recognize the path. How does this work in Linux?

 Jon

Why are you using cygwin for this?

FG builds well with XP and Vista in the Windows environment with Visual 
Studio Express 2008.  See the instructions on the wiki  at 
http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Building_FlightGear_-_Windows which 
will give you a good start point.

The biggest problem is with the 3rd party stuff, each of which (especially 
OpenSceneGraph) has its own 3rd party requirements. This is only relevant 
if you really MUST build your own to to date version of each and not rely on 
the distributions suggested in the Wiki.  Also the 3rd part  stuff keeps 
changing, so it is very difficult to be at the cutting edge.

A Visual Studio 2010 build with fully up to date 3rd part stuff is 
possible - I have done it here, but at the moment it is not worth the 
hassle. 


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 From: Alan Teeder [mailto:ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk]

 Why are you using cygwin for this?

Alan,

I happily built FlightGear under MSVC, but much prefer the cygwin bash shell
to cmd.exe. I am only running FlightGear under cygwin - not building it
under cygwin. I should be able to do that.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 From: Frederic Bouvier
 
 try to remove the trailing slash, or use fgrun that is in the official
 2.0.0 package
 
 -Fred

Still no joy. Where is the fgrun command located?

Jon



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Frederic Bouvier

- Jon S. Berndt a écrit :

  From: Alan Teeder [mailto:ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk]
 
  Why are you using cygwin for this?
 
 Alan,
 
 I happily built FlightGear under MSVC, but much prefer the cygwin bash
 shell
 to cmd.exe. I am only running FlightGear under cygwin - not building
 it
 under cygwin. I should be able to do that.

Maybe... Remember that the cygwin dll has special code to emulate an Unix 
filesystem under Windows, but this DLL is not included inside the MSVC build, 
so you can't express your path the unix way.
The only exception is the forward slash that is recognized by the Microsoft C 
runtime

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Frederic Bouvier

- Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net a écrit :

  From: Frederic Bouvier
  
  try to remove the trailing slash, or use fgrun that is in the
 official
  2.0.0 package
  
  -Fred
 
 Still no joy. Where is the fgrun command located?
 

Download and install the official Win32 release

It is also available here : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
I get the same problems in the windows command shell. What is it looking for??


-Original Message-
From: Frederic Bouvier fredfgf...@free.fr
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 8:04 AM
To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista


- Jon S. Berndt a écrit :

  From: Alan Teeder [mailto:ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk]
 
  Why are you using cygwin for this?
 
 Alan,
 
 I happily built FlightGear under MSVC, but much prefer the cygwin bash
 shell
 to cmd.exe. I am only running FlightGear under cygwin - not building
 it
 under cygwin. I should be able to do that.

Maybe... Remember that the cygwin dll has special code to emulate an Unix 
filesystem under Windows, but this DLL is not included inside the MSVC build, 
so you can't express your path the unix way.
The only exception is the forward slash that is recognized by the Microsoft C 
runtime

-Fred

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Frederic Bouvier
A PATH to OSG Binaries

 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/splash.png.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.


-Fred

- Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net a écrit :

 I get the same problems in the windows command shell. What is it
 looking for??
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Frederic Bouvier fredfgf...@free.fr
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 8:04 AM
 To: FlightGear developers discussions
 flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista
 
 
 - Jon S. Berndt a écrit :
 
   From: Alan Teeder [mailto:ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk]
 
   Why are you using cygwin for this?
 
  Alan,
 
  I happily built FlightGear under MSVC, but much prefer the cygwin
 bash
  shell
  to cmd.exe. I am only running FlightGear under cygwin - not building
  it
  under cygwin. I should be able to do that.
 
 Maybe... Remember that the cygwin dll has special code to emulate an
 Unix filesystem under Windows, but this DLL is not included inside the
 MSVC build, so you can't express your path the unix way.
 The only exception is the forward slash that is recognized by the
 Microsoft C runtime
 
 -Fred
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Alan Teeder
Your OSG library was not built with png and txf support?

Alan
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To: FlightGear developers discussions 
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Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

 A PATH to OSG Binaries

 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/splash.png.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.


 -Fred

 - Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net a écrit :

 I get the same problems in the windows command shell. What is it
 looking for??


 -Original Message-
 From: Frederic Bouvier fredfgf...@free.fr
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 8:04 AM
 To: FlightGear developers discussions
 flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista


 - Jon S. Berndt a écrit :

   From: Alan Teeder [mailto:ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk]
 
   Why are you using cygwin for this?
 
  Alan,
 
  I happily built FlightGear under MSVC, but much prefer the cygwin
 bash
  shell
  to cmd.exe. I am only running FlightGear under cygwin - not building
  it
  under cygwin. I should be able to do that.

 Maybe... Remember that the cygwin dll has special code to emulate an
 Unix filesystem under Windows, but this DLL is not included inside the
 MSVC build, so you can't express your path the unix way.
 The only exception is the forward slash that is recognized by the
 Microsoft C runtime

 -Fred

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
I did not build it. I installed it all according to the procedure (see earlier 
in this thread). I just built FlightGear. Would it work for me to simply copy 
all the needed files into the FlightGear executable directory?

Jon


-Original Message-
From: Alan Teeder ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 9:17 AM
To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

Your OSG library was not built with png and txf support?

Alan
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Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 3:08 PM
To: FlightGear developers discussions 
flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

 A PATH to OSG Binaries

 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/splash.png.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.


 -Fred

 - Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net a écrit :

 I get the same problems in the windows command shell. What is it
 looking for??


 -Original Message-
 From: Frederic Bouvier fredfgf...@free.fr
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 8:04 AM
 To: FlightGear developers discussions
 flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista


 - Jon S. Berndt a écrit :

   From: Alan Teeder [mailto:ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk]
 
   Why are you using cygwin for this?
 
  Alan,
 
  I happily built FlightGear under MSVC, but much prefer the cygwin
 bash
  shell
  to cmd.exe. I am only running FlightGear under cygwin - not building
  it
  under cygwin. I should be able to do that.

 Maybe... Remember that the cygwin dll has special code to emulate an
 Unix filesystem under Windows, but this DLL is not included inside the
 MSVC build, so you can't express your path the unix way.
 The only exception is the forward slash that is recognized by the
 Microsoft C runtime

 -Fred

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Alan Teeder

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 I did not build it. I installed it all according to the procedure (see 
 earlier in this thread). I just built FlightGear. Would it work for me to 
 simply copy all the needed files into the FlightGear executable directory?

 Jon


 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Teeder ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 9:17 AM
 To: FlightGear developers discussions 
 flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

 Your OSG library was not built with png and txf support?

 Alan
 --
 From: Frederic Bouvier fredfgf...@free.fr
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 3:08 PM
 To: FlightGear developers discussions
 flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

 A PATH to OSG Binaries

 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Aircraft/c172p/splash.png.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata//Fonts/Helvetica.txf.


 -Fred

 - Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net a écrit :

 I get the same problems in the windows command shell. What is it
 looking for??


 -Original Message-
 From: Frederic Bouvier fredfgf...@free.fr
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 8:04 AM
 To: FlightGear developers discussions
 flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista


 - Jon S. Berndt a écrit :

   From: Alan Teeder [mailto:ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk]
 
   Why are you using cygwin for this?
 
  Alan,
 
  I happily built FlightGear under MSVC, but much prefer the cygwin
 bash
  shell
  to cmd.exe. I am only running FlightGear under cygwin - not building
  it
  under cygwin. I should be able to do that.

 Maybe... Remember that the cygwin dll has special code to emulate an
 Unix filesystem under Windows, but this DLL is not included inside the
 MSVC build, so you can't express your path the unix way.
 The only exception is the forward slash that is recognized by the
 Microsoft C runtime

 -Fred

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I´m not sure with the cygwin distribution.
When I built OSG (from the latest SVN ) using  Cmake  I did not include tiff 
libraries

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 When I built OSG (from the latest SVN ) using  Cmake  I did not include
 tiff
 libraries. The net result was a similar error message to yours when I
 tried
 to use a tiff texture file. Also all my panels were white.
 
 I replaced the tiff file with a png equivalent (as used by many FG
 aircraft
 models) and both the error message disappeared and my cockpit textures
 re-appeared.
 
 Hence my reply. It may be that an OSG plugin may be the solution under
 Linux/Cygwin, but with Windows the option was required at OSG�s
 Cmake/compilation time .
 
 Alan


OK, I tried this again under a Windows command window. Even after copying all 
of the dlls, etc., into the FlightGear executable directory, I still get tons 
of errors, until finally getting a core dump (see below). I do have all of the 
OSG DLLs, OpenAL, etc., which were installed during the process.

I have a sneaking suspicion that somehow I do not have my paths (PATH 
environment variable, or whatever) set up correctly. Is there an easy way to 
check that? I do see that there is an osgPlugin-2.9.7/ subdirectory under the 
OpenSceneGraph/bin/ directory. Is that supposed to be in the PATH, as well? I 
added it, but it seemed to have no effect.

Jon


C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgearFlightGear\projects\VC90\Win32\Release\fgfs 
--fg-root=c:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata
Processing command line arguments
using aircraft-dir 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/splash.png
Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/splash.png.
Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
... etc. ...
using aircraft-dir 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/c172-sound.xml
using aircraft-dir 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml
Failed to load model: Failed to load 3D model:
from:Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml
Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Textures\Sky\overcast.png.
... etc. ...
Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Textures\Sky\outer_halo.png.
using FG_ROOT 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/generic-systems.xml
using FG_ROOT 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/Panels/generic-vfr-panel.xml
using FG_ROOT 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/Panels/Textures/panel-bg.rgb
Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/Panels/Textures/panel-bg.rgb.
using FG_ROOT 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/Panels/Textures/generic-panel-01.rgb
... etc. ...
Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Fonts/typewriter.txf.
using FG_ROOT 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures/od_wxradar.rgb
... etc. ...
init contrail
*** NEW LOCATION ***
Loading local weather routines...
using aircraft-dir 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Nasal/liveries.nas
... etc. ...
using aircraft-dir 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Nasal/ki266.nas
KI266 dme indicator #0 initialized
using aircraft-dir 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Nasal/c172-electrical.nas
using FG_ROOT 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/kap140.nas
using aircraft-dir 
for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Nasal/kr87.nas
loading scenario 'nimitz_demo'
creating 3D noise texture... DONE
failed to load effect texture file 
C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Textures\Terrain\water.png
... etc. ...
failed to load effect texture file 
C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Textures\Terrain\water-lake.png
Failed to load model: Failed to load 3D model:
from:Models/Maritime/Civilian/ContainerShip.xml
Failed to load model: Failed to load 3D model:
from:Models/Maritime/Civilian/SailBoatUnderSail.xml
failed to load effect texture file 
C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Textures\Trees\coniferous-summer.png
Failed to load model: Failed to load 3D model:
from:Models/Communications/radio-medium.xml
failed to load effect texture file 
C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Textures.high\Terrain\deciduous1.png
... etc. ...
Failed to load object Models/Buildings/factory.ac

*** segfault here ***





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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Frederic Bouvier
 Please post the result of the set PATH command (under Windows prompt,
not cygwin)

As said in the updated instructions, you must also have the 3rdParty/bin
directory in your path as well

To diagnose DLL loading problems, Dependency Walker is your friend.

-Fred

Le 05/09/2010 18:04, Jon S. Berndt a écrit :
 When I built OSG (from the latest SVN ) using  Cmake  I did not include
 tiff
 libraries. The net result was a similar error message to yours when I
 tried
 to use a tiff texture file. Also all my panels were white.

 I replaced the tiff file with a png equivalent (as used by many FG
 aircraft
 models) and both the error message disappeared and my cockpit textures
 re-appeared.

 Hence my reply. It may be that an OSG plugin may be the solution under
 Linux/Cygwin, but with Windows the option was required at OSG�s
 Cmake/compilation time .

 Alan

 OK, I tried this again under a Windows command window. Even after copying all 
 of the dlls, etc., into the FlightGear executable directory, I still get tons 
 of errors, until finally getting a core dump (see below). I do have all of 
 the OSG DLLs, OpenAL, etc., which were installed during the process.

 I have a sneaking suspicion that somehow I do not have my paths (PATH 
 environment variable, or whatever) set up correctly. Is there an easy way to 
 check that? I do see that there is an osgPlugin-2.9.7/ subdirectory under the 
 OpenSceneGraph/bin/ directory. Is that supposed to be in the PATH, as well? I 
 added it, but it seemed to have no effect.

 Jon


 C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgearFlightGear\projects\VC90\Win32\Release\fgfs 
 --fg-root=c:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata
 Processing command line arguments
 using aircraft-dir 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/splash.png
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/splash.png.
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Fonts/Helvetica.txf.
 ... etc. ...
 using aircraft-dir 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/c172-sound.xml
 using aircraft-dir 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml
 Failed to load model: Failed to load 3D model:
 from:Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
 C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Textures\Sky\overcast.png.
 ... etc. ...
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
 C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Textures\Sky\outer_halo.png.
 using FG_ROOT 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/generic-systems.xml
 using FG_ROOT 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/Panels/generic-vfr-panel.xml
 using FG_ROOT 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/Panels/Textures/panel-bg.rgb
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/Panels/Textures/panel-bg.rgb.
 using FG_ROOT 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/Panels/Textures/generic-panel-01.rgb
 ... etc. ...
 Warning: Could not find plugin to read objects from file 
 c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Fonts/typewriter.txf.
 using FG_ROOT 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures/od_wxradar.rgb
 ... etc. ...
 init contrail
 *** NEW LOCATION ***
 Loading local weather routines...
 using aircraft-dir 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Nasal/liveries.nas
 ... etc. ...
 using aircraft-dir 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Nasal/ki266.nas
 KI266 dme indicator #0 initialized
 using aircraft-dir 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Nasal/c172-electrical.nas
 using FG_ROOT 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/kap140.nas
 using aircraft-dir 
 for:c:/cygwin/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Nasal/kr87.nas
 loading scenario 'nimitz_demo'
 creating 3D noise texture... DONE
 failed to load effect texture file 
 C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Textures\Terrain\water.png
 ... etc. ...
 failed to load effect texture file 
 C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Textures\Terrain\water-lake.png
 Failed to load model: Failed to load 3D model:
 from:Models/Maritime/Civilian/ContainerShip.xml
 Failed to load model: Failed to load 3D model:
 from:Models/Maritime/Civilian/SailBoatUnderSail.xml
 failed to load effect texture file 
 C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Textures\Trees\coniferous-summer.png
 Failed to load model: Failed to load 3D model:
 from:Models/Communications/radio-medium.xml
 failed to load effect texture file 
 C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Textures.high\Terrain\deciduous1.png
 ... etc. ...
 Failed to load object Models/Buildings/factory.ac

 *** segfault here ***





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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 From: Frederic Bouvier
 
  Please post the result of the set PATH command (under Windows
 prompt,
 not cygwin)
 
 As said in the updated instructions, you must also have the
 3rdParty/bin
 directory in your path as well
 
 To diagnose DLL loading problems, Dependency Walker is your friend.
 
 -Fred

Yes, 3rdParty/bin is there, too. This is my PATH


C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgearset PATH

Path=%CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared\Windows 
Live;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files 
(x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common 
Files\Roxio Shared\10.0\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio 
Shared\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio 
Shared\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio 
Shared\10.0\DLLShared\;C:\cygwin\usr\share\bin;C:\Program Files 
(x86)\QuickTime\QTSystem\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft 
Shared\Windows 
Live;c:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\install\msvc90\OpenSceneGraph\bin;c:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\3rdParty\bin;C:\Program
 Files (x86)\Pinnacle\Shared files\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Pinnacle\Shared 
files\Filter


I know it is set, now, too, because I can type in the name of executables in 
the relevant paths and the commands are found.

It seems obvious to me, though, that if FlightGear cannot load png files, 
cannot load 3D files, and cannot find the audio device, that something more is 
wrong than simply not being able to find the PNG loader DLL. I followed the 
procedure exactly. :-(

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Frederic Bouvier
 Le 05/09/2010 18:24, Jon S. Berndt a écrit :
 From: Frederic Bouvier

  Please post the result of the set PATH command (under Windows
 prompt,
 not cygwin)

 As said in the updated instructions, you must also have the
 3rdParty/bin
 directory in your path as well

 To diagnose DLL loading problems, Dependency Walker is your friend.

 -Fred
 Yes, 3rdParty/bin is there, too. This is my PATH


 C:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgearset PATH

 Path=%CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared\Windows 
 Live;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files 
 (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common 
 Files\Roxio Shared\10.0\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio 
 Shared\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio 
 Shared\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio 
 Shared\10.0\DLLShared\;C:\cygwin\usr\share\bin;C:\Program Files 
 (x86)\QuickTime\QTSystem\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft 
 Shared\Windows 
 Live;c:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\install\msvc90\OpenSceneGraph\bin;c:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\3rdParty\bin;C:\Program
  Files (x86)\Pinnacle\Shared files\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Pinnacle\Shared 
 files\Filter


 I know it is set, now, too, because I can type in the name of executables in 
 the relevant paths and the commands are found.

 It seems obvious to me, though, that if FlightGear cannot load png files, 
 cannot load 3D files, and cannot find the audio device, that something more 
 is wrong than simply not being able to find the PNG loader DLL. I followed 
 the procedure exactly. :-(

 Jon

So you should be able to run the command below :

osgviewer
c:\cygwin\home\jon\flightgear\fgdata\Aircraft\c172p\Models\c172p.ac

BTW: I had several times issues with Cygwin setting odd permissions on
files and directories that prevented me to remove files until I assigned
ownership on the files and folders to my Windows account

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 From: Frederic Bouvier
 
 BTW: I had several times issues with Cygwin setting odd permissions on
 files and directories that prevented me to remove files until I
 assigned ownership on the files and folders to my Windows account
 
 -Fred


Bingo!

I had already set the permissions via,

chmod 777 pathname/files

for the two directories that you mentioned, but I also HAD to do this for
the OpenSceneGraph/bin subdirectory, osgPlugins-2.9.7. Once I did that,
everything works exactly as it should - even from the cygwin shell. Can you
mention this in the procedure?

Thanks,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Frederic Bouvier
 Le 05/09/2010 18:54, Jon S. Berndt a écrit :
 From: Frederic Bouvier

 BTW: I had several times issues with Cygwin setting odd permissions on
 files and directories that prevented me to remove files until I
 assigned ownership on the files and folders to my Windows account

 -Fred

 Bingo!

 I had already set the permissions via,

 chmod 777 pathname/files

 for the two directories that you mentioned, but I also HAD to do this for
 the OpenSceneGraph/bin subdirectory, osgPlugins-2.9.7. Once I did that,
 everything works exactly as it should - even from the cygwin shell. Can you
 mention this in the procedure?


To not use Cygwin ? ;-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 To not use Cygwin ? ;-)
 
 -Fred

Heh. Almost. But, I can't stand the Windows command shell.

I am still having a few minor issues, though.

1) The audio device is problematic:
Error: Audio device not available, trying default
Error: Default Audio device not available.

2) I'd like the aircraft to start up at the end of the runway, all ready for
takeoff. Can I do that?

3) The propeller disk is white - not transparent, so I can't take off.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Frederic Bouvier
 Le 05/09/2010 19:14, Jon S. Berndt a écrit :
 To not use Cygwin ? ;-)

 -Fred
 Heh. Almost. But, I can't stand the Windows command shell.

 I am still having a few minor issues, though.

 1) The audio device is problematic:
 Error: Audio device not available, trying default
 Error: Default Audio device not available.

Try to run 3rdparty/bin/OpenALwEAX.exe

 2) I'd like the aircraft to start up at the end of the runway, all ready for
 takeoff. Can I do that?

You need to press the 's' key to start the engine. There should be a
property to have the engine started but I don't know which one. If you
know it, you can start fgfs with the --prop:/property/to/start/engine=true

 3) The propeller disk is white - not transparent, so I can't take off.

Indeed ( http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/c172p-white-disk.jpg ).  Who
commited c172p files lately ?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
  I am still having a few minor issues, though.
 
  1) The audio device is problematic:
  Error: Audio device not available, trying default
  Error: Default Audio device not available.
 
 Try to run 3rdparty/bin/OpenALwEAX.exe

Permission denied   :-(  Strange. That's probably what the problem is, but
why would permission be denied?

Thanks.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Frederic Bouvier
 Le 05/09/2010 19:36, Jon S. Berndt a écrit :
 I am still having a few minor issues, though.

 1) The audio device is problematic:
 Error: Audio device not available, trying default
 Error: Default Audio device not available.
 Try to run 3rdparty/bin/OpenALwEAX.exe
 Permission denied   :-(  Strange. That's probably what the problem is, but
 why would permission be denied?


I can only repeat: your cygwin setup wrecked the vista permissions. Go
in the explorer, open properties, go to security tabs, Advanced, Owner
tabs and check the owner of the files and directories is really your
Windows account, and not a cygwin account.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 I can only repeat: your cygwin setup wrecked the vista permissions. Go
 in the explorer, open properties, go to security tabs, Advanced, Owner
 tabs and check the owner of the files and directories is really your
 Windows account, and not a cygwin account.
 
 -Fred

Already checked via cygwin *and* Windows explorer. 

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Frederic Bouvier

- Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net a écrit :

  I can only repeat: your cygwin setup wrecked the vista permissions.
 Go
  in the explorer, open properties, go to security tabs, Advanced,
 Owner
  tabs and check the owner of the files and directories is really
 your
  Windows account, and not a cygwin account.
  
  -Fred
 
 Already checked via cygwin *and* Windows explorer. 

Alternatively, you can download and install 
http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/oalinst.zip

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Frederic Bouvier wrote:
 3) The propeller disk is white - not transparent, so I can't take off.

 Indeed ( http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/c172p-white-disk.jpg ).  Who
 commited c172p files lately ?

Whoops!

That was me not check-flying the aircraft properly before committing.

I'll get it fixed shortly.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 Whoops!
 
 That was me not check-flying the aircraft properly before committing.
 
 I'll get it fixed shortly.
 
 -Stuart

How does one do updates via git? And how will we know when the propeller has
been fixed?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-04 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 From: Frederic Bouvier
 
 I forgot :
  13. Get the data from Gitorious too : git clone
 git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git fgdata

Which directory should one be under when they execute the git command? Is there 
anything that needs to be done afterwards when the data is all downloaded, or 
is FlightGear ready to run at that point?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-04 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Sat, 4 Sep 2010, Jon S. Berndt wrote:

 Which directory should one be under when they execute the git command?

Hi,

You should be in the directory where you want to have the fgdata 
directory, i.e. git creates fgdata in the current directory.
Cloning will download about 2.5GB of data so it will take a good while.
If gitorious is slow you can also clone from
http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/fgdata

 Is there anything that needs to be done afterwards when the data is all 
 downloaded, or is FlightGear ready to run at that point?

FlightGear should be ready to run at that point. Use the 
--fg-root=/path/to/fgdata
argument to point FlightGear to the fgdata directory - it probably won't 
find it otherwise.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-04 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 Hi,
 
 You should be in the directory where you want to have the fgdata
 directory, i.e. git creates fgdata in the current directory.
 Cloning will download about 2.5GB of data so it will take a good while.

Yeah, I got it and it certainly did take a good long time!

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-04 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 On Sat, 4 Sep 2010, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
 
  Which directory should one be under when they execute the git
 command?
 
 Hi,
 
 You should be in the directory where you want to have the fgdata
 directory, i.e. git creates fgdata in the current directory.
 Cloning will download about 2.5GB of data so it will take a good while.
 If gitorious is slow you can also clone from
 http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/fgdata
 
  Is there anything that needs to be done afterwards when the data is
 all
  downloaded, or is FlightGear ready to run at that point?
 
 FlightGear should be ready to run at that point. Use the
 --fg-root=/path/to/fgdata
 argument to point FlightGear to the fgdata directory - it probably
 won't
 find it otherwise.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anders


Here's how I ran FlightGear, but it did not like the command:

$ FlightGear/projects/VC90/Win32/Release/fgfs
--fg-root=/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/


Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at:
/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/
Please upgrade to version: 2.0.0
Hit a key to continue...

I just downloaded the base package today as directed via git.

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-09-04 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 Here's how I ran FlightGear, but it did not like the command:
 
 $ FlightGear/projects/VC90/Win32/Release/fgfs
 --fg-root=/home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/
 
 
 Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at:
 /home/jon/flightgear/fgdata/
 Please upgrade to version: 2.0.0
 Hit a key to continue...
 
 I just downloaded the base package today as directed via git.
 
 What am I doing wrong?
 
 Jon

Note that the version.h file under SimGear/simgear was changed to reflect
version 2.0:

#ifndef _SIMGEAR_VERSION_H
#define _SIMGEAR_VERSION_H


#define SIMGEAR_VERSION 2.0.0


#endif // _SIMGEAR_VERSION_H

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-08-29 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 I updated this document recently :
 http://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear/blobs/next/docs-mini/README.MSVC
 
 I tested the described procedure in a blank virtual machine, so you
 have good chances to succeed ;-) All the prerequisites are available
 already compiled from the provided links
 
 Anyway, VS2010 is too early for OSG, so stay with 2008 for the moment.
 
 Regards,
 -Fred

This is a great process, and I ended up with an executable. However, it won't 
run by double-clicking on the application icon because it can't find OSG. I 
think I know what this is about. The OSG libraries are part of the 3rd party 
zip file I downloaded, right? But, I didn't see anything about how/where to 
install those files. What do I do with those, so that the .exe sees the 
libraries/dlls?

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Also, what's the best way to get the base package? From the FlightGear page?
Is there a git checkout for that, as well?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-08-29 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 Also, what's the best way to get the base package? From the FlightGear
 page?
 Is there a git checkout for that, as well?
 
 Jon


Speaking of git, you might mention in your install procedure that for those
developers who are using Cygwin, they can install git using the cygwin setup
process at cygwin.com. Then they can use git from the command line. The
msysGit install is not required, then.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-08-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi Jon,

- Jon S. Berndt a écrit :

  I updated this document recently :
  http://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear/blobs/next/docs-mini/README.MSVC
  
  I tested the described procedure in a blank virtual machine, so you
  have good chances to succeed ;-) All the prerequisites are
 available
  already compiled from the provided links
  
  Anyway, VS2010 is too early for OSG, so stay with 2008 for the
 moment.
  
  Regards,
  -Fred
 
 This is a great process, and I ended up with an executable. However,
 it won't run by double-clicking on the application icon because it
 can't find OSG. I think I know what this is about. The OSG libraries
 are part of the 3rd party zip file I downloaded, right? But, I didn't
 see anything about how/where to install those files. What do I do with
 those, so that the .exe sees the libraries/dlls?

Procedure above has been updated. Changes are :

--- a/docs-mini/README.MSVC
+++ b/docs-mini/README.MSVC
@@ -84,11 +84,15 @@ Typical setup should decompose into the following steps :
  11. Save file as version.h in the same directory
  12. Start build (usually F7)
  13. Wait...
- 14. Enjoy - programs are in 
D:\FGFSDevel\FlightGear\projects\VC90\Win32\Release
+ 14. Add any_directory_on_any_drive/install/msvc90/OpenSceneGraph/bin and 
any_directory_on_any_drive/3rdParty/bin to your PATH environ
+ 15. Enjoy - programs are in 
D:\FGFSDevel\FlightGear\projects\VC90\Win32\Release

 It is also possible to compile a Debug version. This is only useful when 
hacking the code because
 a Debug version is way slower than the Release one.

+The 64bit build is only available to people having the Professional edition of 
Visual Studio 2008. In that case, 14. above should be :
+ 14. Add any_directory_on_any_drive/install/msvc90-64/OpenSceneGraph/bin and 
any_directory_on_any_drive/3rdParty.x64/bin to your PATH 
+
 When the manual build works, it is possible to start it from the command line. 
This is useful
 when setting up a build server or automating the process of retrieving the 
code and building
 it in a scheduled task. To do that :

--
So What you have to do now is to update your User or System PATH variable and 
add any_directory_on_any_drive/install/msvc90/OpenSceneGraph/bin and 
any_directory_on_any_drive/3rdParty/bin to it.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-08-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier

- Jon S. Berndt a écrit :

 Also, what's the best way to get the base package? From the FlightGear
 page?
 Is there a git checkout for that, as well?

You have to ensure that your base package is consistent with your sources. If 
you compiled the git version of FGFS, get the data from git.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-08-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier

- Jon S. Berndt a écrit :

  Also, what's the best way to get the base package? From the
 FlightGear
  page?
  Is there a git checkout for that, as well?
  
  Jon
 
 
 Speaking of git, you might mention in your install procedure that for
 those developers who are using Cygwin, they can install git using the cygwin
 setup process at cygwin.com. Then they can use git from the command line.
 The msysGit install is not required, then.

I don't have an experience with cygwin git. I found that I have best results 
with
autoctrl=false (see git-config) using msysGit with the base package. Otherwise 
I 
have often unexplained file changes that I can't cancel with git-checkout.

-Fred

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-08-29 Thread Jon S. Berndt
The cygwin git worked as expected. :-)

I don't have previous experience with git. What is the git command to get the 
base packed? Or, is there a page that explains the git packages somewhere? 
Thanks - and again, I was pleasantly surpised by how well the process went. It 
was a big help.

Jon


-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:50 AM
To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista


- Jon S. Berndt a écrit :

  Also, what's the best way to get the base package? From the
 FlightGear
  page?
  Is there a git checkout for that, as well?
  
  Jon
 
 
 Speaking of git, you might mention in your install procedure that for
 those developers who are using Cygwin, they can install git using the cygwin
 setup process at cygwin.com. Then they can use git from the command line.
 The msysGit install is not required, then.

I don't have an experience with cygwin git. I found that I have best results 
with
autoctrl=false (see git-config) using msysGit with the base package. Otherwise 
I 
have often unexplained file changes that I can't cancel with git-checkout.

-Fred

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-08-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
I forgot :
 13. Get the data from Gitorious too : git clone 
git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git fgdata

- Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net a écrit :

 The cygwin git worked as expected. :-)
 
 I don't have previous experience with git. What is the git command to
 get the base packed? Or, is there a page that explains the git
 packages somewhere? Thanks - and again, I was pleasantly surpised by
 how well the process went. It was a big help.
 
 Jon
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Frederic Bouvier fredfgf...@free.fr
 Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:50 AM
 To: FlightGear developers discussions
 flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista
 
 
 - Jon S. Berndt a écrit :
 
   Also, what's the best way to get the base package? From the
  FlightGear
   page?
   Is there a git checkout for that, as well?
  
   Jon
 
 
  Speaking of git, you might mention in your install procedure that
 for
  those developers who are using Cygwin, they can install git using
 the cygwin
  setup process at cygwin.com. Then they can use git from the command
 line.
  The msysGit install is not required, then.
 
 I don't have an experience with cygwin git. I found that I have best
 results with
 autoctrl=false (see git-config) using msysGit with the base package.
 Otherwise I
 have often unexplained file changes that I can't cancel with
 git-checkout.
 
 -Fred
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-08-29 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote:

 13. Get the data from Gitorious too : git clone 
 git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git fgdata

Or, to those who think the forementioned service responds too slowly:

  git clone git://mapserver.flightgear.org/fgdata/

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-06-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
vs2008 express doesn't support 64bit compilation. You're stuck to 32bit

-Fred

- Message d'origine -
De: Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net
Env: mardi 29 juin 2010 02:48
À: 'FlightGear developers discussions' flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Objet: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

I have a Core 2 Quad processor, and Vista x64. I am using MS VS C++ Express 
2008.

I am assuming that I should follow the 64-bit build process. True?

Jon


 I updated this document recently :
 http://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear/blobs/next/docs-mini/README.MSVC
 
 I tested the described procedure in a blank virtual machine, so you
 have good chances to succeed ;-) All the prerequisites are available
 already compiled from the provided links
 
 Anyway, VS2010 is too early for OSG, so stay with 2008 for the moment.
 
 Regards,
 -Fred


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-06-29 Thread James Turner

On 29 Jun 2010, at 01:48, Jon S. Berndt wrote:

 
 I updated this document recently :
 http://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear/blobs/next/docs-mini/README.MSVC
 
 I tested the described procedure in a blank virtual machine, so you
 have good chances to succeed ;-) All the prerequisites are available
 already compiled from the provided links
 
 Anyway, VS2010 is too early for OSG, so stay with 2008 for the moment.

Thanks Fred, I'm going to attempt to apply these steps in a blank WinXP VM this 
evening, and hence finally have a reliable windows slave in my little build 
farm.

Are there any additional steps prior to zipping up some files, to make a 
nightly build? I've written NSIS scripts before that could make a simple 
installer for nightlies, but I guess there's a 'real' installer script already? 
Possibly dependent on FGRun, however.

Thanks again,
James


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-06-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi James,

There is already an inno-setup script in Packages/ that builds fgsetup.exe, 
with data, but for snapshot builds, I only make zip files of exe and dll, 
including fgrun. You can see by yourself by downloading from 
ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/Flightgear/Win32 . There is a wiki page that 
describe how to stay current under Windows.

Regards,
-Fred
 

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De: James Turner ja...@bugless.co.uk
Env: mardi 29 juin 2010 08:47
À: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Objet: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista


On 29 Jun 2010, at 01:48, Jon S. Berndt wrote:

 
 I updated this document recently :
 http://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear/blobs/next/docs-mini/README.MSVC
 
 I tested the described procedure in a blank virtual machine, so you
 have good chances to succeed ;-) All the prerequisites are available
 already compiled from the provided links
 
 Anyway, VS2010 is too early for OSG, so stay with 2008 for the moment.

Thanks Fred, I'm going to attempt to apply these steps in a blank WinXP VM this 
evening, and hence finally have a reliable windows slave in my little build 
farm.

Are there any additional steps prior to zipping up some files, to make a 
nightly build? I've written NSIS scripts before that could make a simple 
installer for nightlies, but I guess there's a 'real' installer script already? 
Possibly dependent on FGRun, however.

Thanks again,
James


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-06-26 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi Jon,

- Jon S. Berndt a écrit :

  Where will I find the best, most up-to-date guide on downloading
  the development version of FlightGear from CVS and building it? 
  Can I used MSVC++ Express 2008? 2010?
  
  Thanks. I haven't done this in a long, long, time.
  
  Jon
 
 On the http://flightgear.org/Downloads/source.shtml download page
 there are several packages listed as being prerequisites. However, 
 it is not stated whether only the binaries are needed, or source 
 code, or ... ? And I also
 don't see any 2.9.x releases, as is recommended on the FlightGear
 download page.

I updated this document recently :
http://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear/blobs/next/docs-mini/README.MSVC

I tested the described procedure in a blank virtual machine, so you 
have good chances to succeed ;-) All the prerequisites are available
already compiled from the provided links

Anyway, VS2010 is too early for OSG, so stay with 2008 for the moment.

Regards,
-Fred

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear under Vista

2010-06-25 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 Where will I find the best, most up-to-date guide on downloading the
 development version of FlightGear from CVS and building it? Can I used
 MSVC++ Express 2008? 2010?
 
 Thanks. I haven't done this in a long, long, time.
 
 Jon

On the http://flightgear.org/Downloads/source.shtml download page there are
several packages listed as being prerequisites. However, it is not stated
whether only the binaries are needed, or source code, or ... ? And I also
don't see any 2.9.x releases, as is recommended on the FlightGear download
page.

Jon





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