Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-19 Thread Martin Spott
leee wrote: It is a sad fact that many people have problems coping with some events in history, and perhaps the only way that they can personally deal with them is by putting them away somewhere so that they don't have to confront them. On a personal level, this is fine, because it only

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-18 Thread Erik Hofman
I would have responded in this thread but decided not to since it probably would only add fuel to it. Let stick to that it's tasteless and realize that FlightGear has no support for weapons of mass murder. So this mission will end up being merely a sightseeing mission. Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-18 Thread Martin Spott
Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: If you agree with me, please help me change his plan. I do sympathise with your feelings - this plan is pretty much tasteless, ridiculous. I think the only measure against such plans is education. Best regards, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:59:46 +0200, Erik wrote in message 4ab32fe2.4040...@ehofman.com: I would have responded in this thread but decided not to since it probably would only add fuel to it. Let stick to that it's tasteless and realize that FlightGear has no support for weapons of mass

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-18 Thread leee
The most depressing thing about this thread is that it highlights the fact that many people seem to think that the best way to deal with unpleasant events in history is to mythologise and make them sacred and untouchable, and then to try to force other people to comply with their personal

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-18 Thread Nicolas Quijano
Hi lee, funny enough I mostly agree. But I'm sorry, it's really easy to ignore you because like some of the fanbois of the event, you're resorting to demeaning language to speak of those who don't agree with you, showing exactly the intolerance you're decrying. At least, you're not resorting to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-18 Thread Heiko Schulz
First: we are an OpenSource project- open and free to all! We can't preventing militaries using FGFS to develope military stuff to kill people. So I don't see a chance to prevent those kids making this event. But we are allowed to say our opinion about and trying them to convince with facts

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-18 Thread leee
On Friday 18 Sep 2009, Nicolas Quijano wrote: Hi lee, funny enough I mostly agree. But I'm sorry, it's really easy to ignore you because like some of the fanbois of the event, you're resorting to demeaning language to speak of those who don't agree with you, showing exactly the intolerance

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Lee, I do agree with all you wrote and started something similar but then decided I didn' t find this mailinglist the place to discuss it. Still, I do agree. Erik -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-18 Thread leee
On Friday 18 Sep 2009, Heiko Schulz wrote: First: we are an OpenSource project- open and free to all! We can't preventing militaries using FGFS to develope military stuff to kill people. So I don't see a chance to prevent those kids making this event. But we are allowed to say our opinion

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-18 Thread leee
On Friday 18 Sep 2009, Erik Hofman wrote: Lee, I do agree with all you wrote and started something similar but then decided I didn' t find this mailinglist the place to discuss it. Still, I do agree. Erik I agree that this isn't the right place for this discussion but I was so annoyed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-18 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Ieee. Do not nudge my expressions and thought. First, I didn't express this is the recreation of the a-bomb raids. That's way far from what I've said. Second, I didn't say I ignored many of the posts. I skipped some meaningless posts on the forum, and I wrote that because I might have skipped

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-17 Thread Gene Buckle
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: Hi there, I found a problematic forum topic on planning an MP event, by which I really got hurt at least. http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10t=5761 The plan of the event is to simulate the bombing mission against both

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-17 Thread Victhor Foster
GTA IV sucks. Even if you have an IBM Roadrunner, it'll lag. It's very badly designed (as with all Rockstar games) ;) Besides, GTA IV is completely fictional, but the MP event is *loosely* based on a real, tragic, event. I was going to join it, just to fly around. The plane I was going to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-17 Thread willie
Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: Hi there, I found a problematic forum topic on planning an MP event, by which I really got hurt at least. http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10t=5761 The plan of the event is to simulate the bombing mission against both Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-17 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: On Fri, 18 Sep 2009, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: Hi there, I found a problematic forum topic on planning an MP event, by which I really got hurt at least. http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10t=5761 The plan of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-17 Thread Ron Jensen
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 13:29 -0700, Gene Buckle wrote: On Fri, 18 Sep 2009, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: Hi there, I found a problematic forum topic on planning an MP event, by which I really got hurt at least. http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10t=5761 The plan of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-17 Thread Gene Buckle
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Victhor Foster wrote: GTA IV sucks. Even if you have an IBM Roadrunner, it'll lag. It's very badly designed (as with all Rockstar games) ;) Besides, GTA IV is completely fictional, but the MP event is *loosely* based on a real, tragic, event. I was going to join it, just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-17 Thread Gene Buckle
You have my full support on this, Tat. To those who say , its just a game, get over it 1) It's a sim It's a simulation game. Is it used for serious research? You bet! However, it's also used as entertainment. 2) We are talking about the greatest mass murder of civilians in a single act in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-17 Thread Gene Buckle
Tasteless? Oh probably. But then again, so is Grand Theft Auto IV. It's a game. Get over it. Hey Gene, I know you've been around long enough that if you spent 30 seconds pondering your answer, you could probably come up with a little bit better one? Flip it around ... can you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problematic forum discussion on an MP event

2009-09-17 Thread Gene Buckle
Tasteless? Oh probably. But then again, so is Grand Theft Auto IV. It's a game. Get over it. g. I am, and have been, against the militarization of flightgear in general. I'm depressed by the seeming growing number of people who want to push flightgear into a game and wargame