Re: [Flightgear-users] problems finding correct OpenGL lib with Slackware 0.9.9 and Nvidia (solved !)
Kees Lemmens wrote: Hi, When starting Flightgear from the 0.9.9 package prepared by Jon Stockill the startup logo looked fine until the point where the actually strip and plane should showup. There FG just quitted with the following error message : /local/FlightGear/FlightGear-0.9.9/share/FlightGear/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat That's not from the package I built - the path to that file would be /usr/share/FlightGear/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: Custom sceneries and new a/c, are there any? Comments...
Chris Wilkinson wrote: Converting a/c from other sims is ideally the way to go, but with current tools that limits us to fs98 models and little else. If thats not true by all means someone correct me! :-) You're likely to run into significant licensing issues. There's also differences in how cockpits are handled - if you're gonna end up building panels from scratch (almost certainly the case for a 3d cockpit) then there's gonna be a lot of wotk involved anyway. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] If anyone wants to buy me a christmas present...
but you're stuck for ideas, then one of these would be much appreciated ;-) http://www.funmansion.com/html/Airbus-Remote-Control-Plane.html -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: carriers
Melchior FRANZ wrote: I've fixed that. The platforms show up in my copy of FlightGear now. :-) Have to clean up first, and then to persuade one of the overlords. I'd better work on a nicer looking platform model then (unless someone already has one?) The current one was just put in as a placeholder, and not really developed since the models didn't appear anyway. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Scenery 0.9.9 Airport LFPO (Paris Orly) is wrong
Gerard ROBIN wrote: I do not understand why that error continue to be there, i gave the information in June, i rebuilt that scenery, i offered it. Nothing is done with the 0.9.9 Scenery. Airport updates need to be sent to Robin Peel. That way they are fixed at source, and everyone benefits from them. Curts scenery builds use the latest version of Robins database. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: carriers
Gerard ROBIN wrote: Oh, everywhere in the world, could be available :=) And about helos some sea platforms. I've already tried that - I have positions for a whole bunch of north sea oil platforms - unfortunately the scenery code doesn't place models in tiles where there's no terrain - so they never show up. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: carriers
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Jon Stockill -- Friday 25 November 2005 18:53: unfortunately the scenery code doesn't place models in tiles where there's no terrain - so they never show up. What about delivering those with a tiny *.btg.gz that places a tiny island under the object, below sea level? I'm not sure you can - if you include a btg file then you won't get the default sea area at all. I *suspect* that the scenery loader just bails out on loading if it finds nothing in the terrain tree, rather than checking the objects tree too. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Carrier]
Gerard ROBIN wrote: Yes i understand it is an htm extension, i do not get the picture which should be linked into it, only a blank screen :=( From the start of the file served by that address: html xmlns:v=urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml xmlns:o=urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office xmlns:w=urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word xmlns=http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40; The rest of the page isn't exactly standard either. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: carriers
Vivian Meazza wrote: Sounds good, I'll get on with allowing more than one ship in the TACAN code. I was about to start on HMS Victorious - looks like next year now. Any chance the tacan could could be more generic than that - it's not used only on ships. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: carriers
Vivian Meazza wrote: The TACAN instrument works with all TACAN and VORTAC beacons - just use your channel selector. Excellent - I thought it had only been set up for use with the carriers. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] fgrun
Larry wrote: Hi, I installed the Slackware binary package and fgfs works fine it seems but fgrun just quits with Aborted. It doesn't do anything but that. Any Ideas?? Can you let me have the MD5SUM of the binary? Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] fgrun
Larry wrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 10:01:26AM +, Jon Stockill wrote: Larry wrote: Hi, I installed the Slackware binary package and fgfs works fine it seems but fgrun just quits with Aborted. It doesn't do anything but that. Any Ideas?? Can you let me have the MD5SUM of the binary? Jon Sure how do you get the MD5SUM? Never had to do that. :) Type md5sum /usr/bin/fgrun Which package did you install? The first release (FlightGear-0.9.9-i686-1.tgz) or the second (FlightGear-0.9.9-i686-2.tgz)? -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] fgrun
Larry wrote: 82b98a96f3b22ade1e5247e3d9b314fe /usr/bin/fgrun FlightGear-0.9.9-i686-2 Ok, that's the correct version of the package, and the correct version of fgrun. *Something* must be missing. I have a completely clean system I can test it on tomorrow night. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Seahawk
Larry wrote: Hello again. :) I downloaded the Seahawk from the aircraft download page and installed it in /usr/shared/FLightGear/Aircraft/UIUC/seahawk When I run this command: fgfs --carrier=Nimitz --aircraft=seahawk I get the following error: Error reading default aircraft: Failed to open file at /usr/share/FlightGear/Aircraft/UIUC/seahawk/../ ../Input/Keyboard/carrier-bindings.xml What am I missing? You needed to unpack it in /usr/share/FlightGear/Aircraft/ Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 == /systems/electrical/amps
Gerard ROBIN wrote: Later on, i will try to include in Crusader the emergency air driven generator which was (the history said it ) often useful. I need to learn how to process with Nasal, the main electrical functions of an a/c. Not sure to be able to, it could take time. They're found on quite a few aircraft, including early model harriers (they were removed - they wouldn't have been particularly useful that close to the ground anyway). I *think* they can be used to produce both electrical and hydraulic power, just to keep essentials running while you restart an engine. It'd certainly be a useful addition. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I figured he just took the UFO up very high on a cloudless day and did a screenshot; then wrote the text in with the Gimp or something like that. You're hoping for something less labor-intensive for generating the shot itself, I'm betting! Not really - I'm thinking of recon pics for exercise briefings :-) Some scattered cloud would probably make things a bit more challenging for what I have in mind. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Contrails
Dave Culp wrote: On Monday 14 November 2005 06:31 pm, Innis Cunningham wrote: ...I guess the contrails are a work in progress.The first time I saw them I thought I had blowen another engine.:-) Yes they are. But now that you mention it I've been playing around with them, trying to get a better look. Here's a screenshot: http://home.comcast.net/~davidculp2/contrails_001.jpg I'd suggest moving them much further back - contrails usually form quite a way behind the engines once the air has had time to cool again. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] (OT) VATSIM guy steals Citation?
Andy Ross wrote: Dave Culp wrote: Just read that authorities have arrested Daniel Wolcott, 22, for stealing a Citation [...] VATSIM has a long-time user at their Atlanta ARTCC named Daniel Wolcott. Same guy?? Please let this be true. :) Sorry for the crappy url, but after lots of nobody arrested yet stories: http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/STOLEN_AIRPLANE?SITE=HIHADSECTION=HOMETEMPLATE=DEFAULTCTIME=2005-10-11-19-31-12 -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Building FlightGear in a Debian box
Kitts wrote: On Wednesday 05 Oct 2005 10:38 pm IST, Andy Ross wrote: AR Looks like SimGear version skew to me. AR AR SimGear and FlightGear are developed in parallel, and their versions AR must match. If you want to compile FlightGear from (for example) CVS, AR then you must have a simultaneous CVS snapshot of SimGear. AR Presumably, the debian SimGear package is matched to the debian AR FlightGear package, which is not the same version you are building. The version of SimGear debian package reads 0.3.8-2 which o think means release 2. The flightgear package in debian reads 0.9.8-3. I am now getting release 0.9.8 of flightgear from CVS. I hope i can build this without having to build SimGear. I writing some experimental code into flightgear and hence do not need anything bleeding edge, When it works out with the 0.9.8 release ill be confident to run bleeding edge. I just finished getting release 0.9.8 and seem to have the same problem... /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib/libsgmisc.so: undefined reference to `SGPropertyNode_ptr::SGPropertyNode_ptr()' /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib/libsgmisc.so: undefined reference to `SGPropertyNode_ptr::~SGPropertyNode_ptr()' /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib/libsgstructure.so: undefined reference to `SGPropertyNode::getBoolValue() const' /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib/libsgmisc.so: undefined reference to `SGPropertyNode::setDoubleValue(double)' /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib/libsgmisc.so: undefined reference to `SGPropertyNode_ptr::operator SGPropertyNode*()' /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib/libsgmisc.so: undefined reference to `SGPropertyNode_ptr::operator=(SGPropertyNode_ptr const)' /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib/libsgmisc.so: undefined reference to `SGPropertyNode_ptr::operator-()' /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib/libsgmisc.so: undefined reference to `SGPropertyNode::getDoubleValue() const' /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib/libsgmisc.so: undefined reference to `SGPropertyNode_ptr::SGPropertyNode_ptr(SGPropertyNode*)' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [test-up] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/FlightGear/source/tests' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 There are no shared versions of those libraries, except in the debian package which uses an *AWFUL* hack to create them. If you're using the debian build scripts I'm afraid you're on your own. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] WARNING: Legacy engine definition in YASim configuration file. Please fix.
Giles Robertson wrote: Next time we release, can we switch the warning off [for the release]? While aircraft developers need to see this, I don't think end users do. Aircraft developers aren't necessarily compiling code. (Actually, it makes sense to develop aircraft for the latest release rather than for cvs). Changing the message so it only appears on a more verbose than default setting makes sense, but dropping it completely I think would be a mistake. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] loading OpenAl
connectknee wrote: Hi, I am trying to load OpenAl-CVS-i486-1.tgz onto my machine. I'm running Mandrake linux 10.1. I have untared the file, but what do I do after that to install it? That sounds suspiciously like you're trying to install my Slackware package on Mandrake. It'll work if all the other libs are of similar versions to slackware 9.1/10 - to install a slackware package on any other distro just untar it in / Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear server field test
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I want to fly in Europe. =P How about LFBO? I live in Toronto, which is GMT -5:00. Since I am on summer break, I am pretty much free to do this at anytime. Where do you live and what time will be best for you? I'm in the uk (GMT+1). Late evenings here are probably best. By the way, If we fly with different planes, will we see each other's plane being different? The multiplayer packets include the model path - so provided you have the model installed I think it should be visible. Maybe it's best to fly something standard to start with. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear server field test
paul cooke wrote: On Thursday 14 July 2005 09:14, Jon Stockill wrote: The multiplayer packets include the model path - relative or absolute??? does it make any difference if one guy is running the Linux version and the other is running the windows version? relative to fgroot I think - whether this will cause case problems between windows/everything else I don't know. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear server field test
Andy Ross wrote: Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: The original message can be found here: http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topicforum=198topic_id=913mode=full Is this using the existing multiplayer code? I was under the impression that it was p2p only; no servers... That depends what the server is doing. If it sends multiple packets back to you with different callsigns then it should be possible to have flightgear display the aircraft in exactly the same way as it would with several machines on the same subnet uting broadcasts to share the info. Obviously some coordination is required to test this properly - so where (and when) do we fly? Everyone to KSFO? Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Hardware requirements
Erik Hofman wrote: Low-end FX5200 or later should be enough to have fun. Faster is better (as always) but not necessary unless you're after something special. Yup - I was using a 5200 until a couple of weeks ago - worked fine. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] AI dust storm anyone?
Josh Babcock wrote: We have T-storms, how about one of these to chase you around? http://www.dla.mil/images/desert-Wall%20of%20Dust%20with%20Load.jpg Is it possible to affect the colour of the new clouds? A single large cloud at ground level would work if you could get the colour right. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] next trick
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On June 20, 2005 12:23 am, Andy Ross wrote: Definitely a Harrier -- any of the original generation (Gr.3, AV-8A, Sea Harrier FRS.1, the AV-8B has a much more complicated set of avionics and isn't nearly as interesting for a pilot). I assume you are going to code the entire Flight Control Computer in Nasal for Josh? =p With the earlier models there is no flight computer - that's what makes them interesting. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] New Navigation Legislation
http://www.metriccompass.com/ At least it's cheaper to update simulated instruments ;-) -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear slow under Linux maximized window/ hardware upgrade recommendation
Geoff Reidy wrote: Andrzej Leszczynski wrote: Next question, which model of Nvidia. I am not going to skim on every $ since I upgrade hardware every 3-4 years, but do not want to overkill. FX5200 128MB was mentioned, is it sufficient to what FG requires and still have some processing marging to be used in future? What do you guys use? Andrzej Be careful, some 5200s only have a 64 bit memory bus and would be little improvement over a Geforce 2. Check some hardware reviews first. The performance is pretty much identical (I have both cards) - the only advantage you get with the 5200's is that they generally have more RAM (I got one when I was experimenting with photo scenery for just this reason). -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FG on Slax Linux live CD
Jeremy Johnson wrote: Once you have a linux installation on a permanent writable medium then you will have to install SDL SimGear fgfs-base openal Not true - just the flightgear and openAL slackware packages are required - the rest are only needed if you're trying to build it yourself. On SLAX the only problems I can think of are a shortage of disk space, and potentially a lack of video driver (so it may run ok, but the performance could be terrible). I'd be interested to hear how you get on. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] little problem compiling Flighgear on debian.
pippo campanella wrote: Hi to everybody, i want to try flightgear on my debian box, but i have some problem to compile. i downloaded the last release 0.98 and all the libs, but when i used make i received this: then mv -f .deps/environment_mgr.Tpo .deps/environment_mgr.Po; \ else rm -f .deps/environment_mgr.Tpo; exit 1; \ fi In file included from environment_ctrl.hxx:50, from environment_mgr.cxx:31: fgmetar.hxx: In member function `double FGMetar::getRain() const': fgmetar.hxx:45: error: `_rain' undeclared (first use this function) fgmetar.hxx:45: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) fgmetar.hxx: In member function `double FGMetar::getHail() const': fgmetar.hxx:46: error: `_hail' undeclared (first use this function) fgmetar.hxx: In member function `double FGMetar::getSnow() const': fgmetar.hxx:47: error: `_snow' undeclared (first use this function) make[2]: *** [environment_mgr.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/giulio/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Environment' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/giulio/FlightGear-0.9/source/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 someone can help me? please. That looks suspiciously like some sort of FlightGear/SimGear version mismatch. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] little problem compiling Flighgear on debian.
pippo campanella wrote: hi Jon, thank you for you quick answer. It's strange 'cause i download FG form cvs and i think there aren't mismatching there. MMM really strange. _hail, _snow etc are only defined in the cvs version of SimGear - I suspect you have an older version of SimGear on your system that is being used instead of the CVS version. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: Spitfire Starting (was FlightGear v0.9.8onWindows XP)
Vivian Meazza wrote:
Dave Martin wrote:
On Tuesday 01 Feb 2005 17:25, Vivian Meazza wrote:
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
AnthonyL -- Tuesday 01 February 2005 12:19:
By trial and error I have found that from a stationery engine:
1. Press C (case is important)
2. Press space bar until the prop is rotating as a blur
3. Press { and the engine will spark into life.
If that is correct [...]
If it works it can't be *totally* wrong. :-)
More correct would AFAIK be:
1. { } turn left *and* right magneto switch on
2. O manually inject fuel (yes, five times Shift-o)
3. increase throttle to 1/3 (or more?)
4. SPACE fire starter cartridge
5. B release parking brake
then give throttle and pull stick for better ground contact of the
tail
wheel. (I get best results if I do this until I lift off, others may
only
do it until they can raise the tail.) Don't know if flaps are
recommended
for take off, and how much. Vivian?
You need C only to select the *next* ignition cartridge. The first one
is already selected at startup, so you don't need it. (And, of course,
case is important. It always is on sane systems.)
To quote from the Pilot's Notes:
The Pilot's Operational Handbook (POH) is available here:
http://home.clara.net/wolverine/BOB/misc/Spit_Hurri_Manuals.zip
Read it - the simulator is pretty close.
But yes, you have summarized the start procedure. Flaps are not
recommended
for take-off, but the aircraft will take off if they are inadvertently
extended. They blow in as speed increases anyway. Yes, keep the tail
down
until there is sufficient rudder authority to counter the swing to port.
This is different to the real aircraft, because the backwash from the
prop
is not simulated. Remember to use the differential brakes to keep
straight
at slow speed.
Don't forget the radiator flap, the door and canopy, mixture and
propeller
advance levers ... well you can read it in the POH.
Regards,
Vivian
I'm still having trouble with starting the Spitfire; if I follow the start
procedure, I just get a 'cough' on the starter and a fraction of a
rotation.
Bit like the engine has suffered 'hydraulic lock really' :-/
Dave Martin
Hmm ... can you open the property browser and confirm that:
/controls/engines/engine/magnetos - 3
/controls/engines/engine/primer - 5
/controls/engines/engine/mixture - 1
Then fire the starter - it needs holding on for a couple of seconds (I'd
guess you aren't holding the starter switch on for quite long enough, but
it's only a guess). Use the panel switches as well as the keyboard.
You *can't* hold the starter button for long enough where fgfs has been
built without SDL - it seems to be a keyboard event problem.
--
Jon Stockill
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Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: Spitfire Starting (was FlightGearv0.9.8onWindows XP)
Vivian Meazza wrote: When did it start? I think used to be OK. I don't think this is fixable in the spitfire-set file. This must be a common problem for all models. Yes, but with an electric starter the on-off repeat is still enough to start the engine - because the starter accelerates the engine far faster than it can spin down. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] OpenGL Flightgear and Mandrake 10.0
Innis Cunningham wrote: No.I get this reply Xlib: extension GLX missing on display 0.0 and Error:couldn't get an RGB, double-buffered visual. Will this problem be fixed by downloading and installing the Nvidia drivers.Don't suppose they come in a rpm.:-) No, they don't - it's even easier than that - you just download it, run it, and it installs itself. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] FlightGear Scenery Object Database
In an effort to provide a central repository for placing models within the flightgear scenery Martin Spott and I have been working on a database system to handle the collection and storage of this data. The first stage of this project is now complete, and an initial data set containing navaids for the entire planet, and a handful of other models is now available. DOWNLOADING THE DATA The database can be found at http://fgfsdb.stockill.org/ with downloadable scenery add-ons and extra shared models available from http://fgfsdb.stockill.org/downloads/ CONTRIBUTING MORE OBJECTS If you wish to help populate the world with interesting objects (yes, we really are aiming for total world domination here :-) then we'll need the following details: * Full name of author (required if not already known) * EMail of author (required if not already known, will not be published, just as a reference) * additional short comment on the author (optional) * any sort of explicit notice that the submission is covered by the GPL, we won't accept a single submission which lacks this notice (required) * the 3D model itself in a format supported by FlightGear or a reference to a model already present in the database (required) * Position (if appropriate. Either lat/on, or Ordnance Survey grid - other grids can be added on request) * heading (if appropriate), * country (if known to the author), * elevation (if known to the author), * a 320x240 thumbnail containing an advantageous view on the model/object (not required but preferred). Facilities to handle the uploading of your own model data are not yet complete, but the data can currently be submitted in 2 ways: 1) By Email Send a message containing the info above, to (sorry for the anti spam measures, I'm sure you understand): fgfsdb at stockill dot org or Martin dot Spott at mgras dot net 2) By anonymous FTP Put all the info described above into an archive (.zip or .tar.gz format) and upload it to: ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/incoming/ Comments on improvements/additions/errors can be sent to: fgfsdb at stockill dot org -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Let me try again... {Multihead computer}
Bill Galbraith wrote: Sorry to beat a dead horse here, but I don't want to give up on this idea...at least not yet. Sometimes you have to give the impossible task to someone that doesn't know it can't be done, in order to get results. You'll manage 2 screens with an nvidia card - their driver allows you to run dual head with a single GL context (effectively it's treated as 1 big screen). You are of course limited by the layout, but it'd work for 1 screen with a panel, and 1 with an outside view above it, or 2 outside views side by side. Beyond that, forget it, you'll need multiple machines. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] fgkicker - GUI for starting FlightGear
Don Oliver wrote: Hi All, I have just installed 'FG kicker' as a GUI for starting FlightGear, and it is very good. http://users.pandora.be/ceppe/projects/fgkicker.html FG kicker looks for the executable 'fgrun' in /usr/games so, if you're using 0.9.8, you must add /some/path/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Main to PATH. Maybe I'm missing something here, but why does a front end for starting flightgear depend on another frontend for starting flightgear? -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: bo105 - Always turning right?
Vivian Meazza wrote: In which case it would bank, but is there an elastic 'hinge' as in the Westland Lynx? Or is there some other mechanism? I thought that the performance of the lynx was down to the clever blade tip design. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Airplanes
Andrew Midosn wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, how do you close the cockpit canopy on the YF-22 simm - it stays open throughout flights. Ooh, ooh - I think I know the answer to this one! I believe that the cockpit canopy is linked to the parking brake - so if you release the brake the canopy should close, and applying the brake will cause the canopy to open again. Although, if this is right, I'm not sure how you're managing to get airborne with the parking brake applied! :-) Because the YF-22 has ridiculous amounts of thrust - it doesn't let silly things like brakes hold it back. It accelerates much faster though if you remember to take them off first :-) -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] compilation in Fedora Core 1
nogueira wrote: Hi all: Compilation FlightGear 0.9.6: ./configure - OK make - error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsgtiming and finish You haven't installed simgear. See http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/source.html for a list of prerequisites. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind
Erik Hofman wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: What lists is this happening on. I did send a note to this user a month or so ago, and thought the issue was resolved. Have these replies started up again, or is it only certain lists where it is happening? I think I accidentally clicked on the link in one of his replies and registered myself so I no longer see these from my own mail. I almost wish I hadn't because I can't exactly take it back now. I think it it plain stupid from the domain owner of safe-mail.net. This type of behavior is unacceptable from a mailing-list point of view. I would suggest anybody who still receives the mail to sent a complaint to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and explain tat you didn't sign up for this unsolicited mail and want it to stop. Alternatively adding: denysenders = [EMAIL PROTECTED] message = Your spam filter is braindead To your acl if you run exim will solve the problem. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: NASA Worldwind
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Jon Stockill -- Friday 10 December 2004 13:15: Alternatively adding: denysenders = [EMAIL PROTECTED] message = Your spam filter is braindead To your acl if you run exim will solve the problem. Umm ... that will generate yet another bounce reply from White_Wind, no? Better send that to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or the flightgear-users list maintainer. ;-) No - because it's sent in response to the challenge, which comes direct from that address. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: NASA Worldwind
Melchior FRANZ wrote: OK, so the only thing I had to do is rent a (mail)server. That's not much better actually. I guess that 99.999 percent of internet users don't maintain their own (virtual) server. :-| I did say *if* you ran exim... If you don't, then obviously you'll need another method. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind
Lee Elliott wrote: Debian unstable on all my systems. Slackware 10.0 here (as you'd probably guessed by the slackware packages I keep producing). -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind
Curtis L. Olson wrote: What lists is this happening on. I did send a note to this user a month or so ago, and thought the issue was resolved. Have these replies started up again, or is it only certain lists where it is happening? I think I accidentally clicked on the link in one of his replies and registered myself so I no longer see these from my own mail. I almost wish I hadn't because I can't exactly take it back now. Still getting it here: Your message Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind was not transfered to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Safe-mail users can block messages from unkown email addresses. Please click on the following link to have your address added to the recipient's Allowed List and ensure delivery of your email: Anyone with common sense would've whitelisted any lists they subscribe to. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] Toy!
If only I had the room for something like this. http://simflight.fotopic.net/ -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] classifying development status of aircraft extending fgrun
Paul Surgeon wrote: On Friday, 22 October 2004 10:28, Boris Koenig wrote: Despite from that I don't like the idea too much, either - personally I am not that much into Java, and even though its platform-independence is a nice thing, it's really a bit awkward to make Java integrate with existing applications, and then there's the performance issue, too - even without time-critical applications, you'd always need to have a whole VM running - probably not a good option if you want to run something like FG, too. Why would you want to run an Installer and FlightGear at the same time? Surely FlightGear would only be launched after the installer has done it's job and exited? And I don't see performance as an issue - installers don't need to do tons of number crunching. If the install takes an extra 30 seconds so what. I'm not a real Java fan myself but Java is the closest cross platform environment/tookit that we have at the moment. All other toolkits like wxWidgets (used to be wxWindows till MS chewed them out), GTK, Python, Tcl/Tk, etc need to be installed first and the installation process often does not go smoothly. Why does is need to be a seperate installer? There's nothing wrong with packaging up the aircraft in exactly the same way as the binaries? At least that way the files can be managed by whatever tools are available on the system in the first place. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.6
The Slackware 10.0 package is now available. It should also work on Slackware 9.1 systems. You can find it at http://flightgear.stockill.org.uk/ -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] KSFO approach lights
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: This just occured to me: would it be better if the entire airport is built by hand? We can have curved taxiway that way. How long do you think it will take you to do 20,000 airports by hand? It takes about 4-6 hours to do a decent job of a reasonably complex airport. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] KSFO approach lights
Christian Mayer wrote:
Probably we should have a mechanism for allowing some hand crafted
airports. Those that don't have a hand crafted version should be
automatically generated as they are at the moment.
This gives us the best of both worlds.
That's why I wrote this - it'll dump a new airports list to stdout,
given a directory full of taxiway files, and (optionally) an existing
airport list. I suspect it'll need an update for the new beacon and
windsock stuff though.
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
my $twypath=$ARGV[0];
my $listfile=$ARGV[1]||/usr/lib/FlightGear/Airports/runways.dat.gz;
my $field;
my $file;
open LIST,zcat $listfile|;
open OUT,runways.dat;
while (LIST)
{ ($field)=(/^. (.*?) /);
next if ($file eq $field);
if (/^A/)
{ if (-r $twypath/$field.twy)
{ open INSERT,$twypath/$field.twy;
while (INSERT)
{ print OUT;
};
close INSERT;
$file=$field;
} else
{ print OUT;
};
} else
{ print OUT;
};
};
close LIST;
close OUT;
exit 0;
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Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: View Problems
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Erik Hofman wrote: Yes there is (unfinished?) support for helicopters. Actually there was support for helicopters in 0.9.3 already. 0.9.4 will add some improvements to that. Anyone want to do a model of a westland wasp? :-) -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users
Re: [Flightgear-users] Slackware, USB, CH yoke
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Thomas Moore wrote: Hi all, Just recently signed up, fiddled with Flightgear for a couple of weeks now. Have a question. Slackware v9.1, stock kernel 2.4.22 (no compiling yet), SOYO K7V Dragon MoBo w/AMD Athlon, 1.4 GHz w/512MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SE w/128MB FlightGear-0.9.3-i486-2.tgz and fgfs-base-0.9.2-noarch-1.tgz unzipped, untarred and installed (well, I used Slackware's installpkg.) CH Products Flight Sim Yoke USB The program is up and running, I can taxi the c172 in circles until it crashes off the end of the runway using either the keyboard or mouse. But I can't get the USB yoke to work. Here are the appropriate entries in dmesg and linux-2.4.22/.config. At least I think they are appropriate. For dmesg when I plug in the yoke: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus3/2, assigned device number 2 usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x68e/0xff) is not claimed by any active driver. There's no driver loaded - try modprobe hid;modprobe joydev as root, then see if js_demo shows the yoke working correctly. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users
Re: [Flightgear-users] Wow!: SRTM-3 + Terra + TerraFit
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, David Megginson wrote: Here's what it looks like with SRTM-3 and Terra: http://www.megginson.com/private/meech-lake-srtm3.jpg OK, now I'm jealous. Can't wait for a 3 or 1 arcsec DEM for the UK. don't mesh up between tiles, leaving visible cracks, but the improvement is still very impressive (and so far every tile has built OK). I've noticed that on SRTM-30 in the UK - sometimes you get a step at the tile edges. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: [ANN] 3D-Model: Donauturm, Vienna, Austria
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Jon Stockill -- Friday 01 August 2003 01:41: * On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Melchior FRANZ wrote: London cries for a Big Ben ... That's the wrong end of the country :-) Yeah, but where you live you probably don't need landmarks. It's the boring flat land that needs them, like big towns. (I'm not from Vienna, either. :-) Sadly until the DEM gets a bit of an upgrade an awful lot of the country is rather flat - there's just not enough detail. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users
RE: [Flightgear-users] Re: [ANN] 3D-Model: Donauturm, Vienna, Austria
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Richard Bytheway wrote: Agreed, even the lumpy bits of the UK (Pennines etc) are pretty flat compared to the middle of continental Europe. I have considered trying to extract higher resolution DEM-like data from OS maps by scanning the maps and doing some image analysis (tracing the contour lines and roads etc), but it is a daunting task, and probably illegal too. And for anywhere remotely hilly it's difficuly enough to follow contour lines yourself! -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users
Re: [Flightgear-users] airport, navaid, etc. data
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I also want to see elevation at the ends of each runway if it is available. I also want to clarify the displaced threshold information. It's never been clear to me how this is represented in Yeah, it's represented in 2 different ways as far as I can tell. I did try to work out how to get 1 from the other, but you do have to make a few assumptions. Robin's data, and I see several examples of inconsistancies in the data and places where taxiways (or even really short runways) are used instead. Would be nice if someone figured all this out, got the data to match, and then explained it all to me. :-) I wish I knew! -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users
Re: [Flightgear-users] NVIDIA driver for linux
On 5 Feb 2003, Sid Boyce wrote: I am still mystified about the NVidia/AMD problem if it is such. I have read and done everything mentioned on the SuSE site. On SuSE 8.1 with the SuSE kernels, including the recent SuSE internal 2.4.21, there are no problems. On the 2.4.20 kernel from ftp.kernel.org, I get everything up and working, but on every VT switch or shutdown, the machine imitates a clam requiring a hardware reset. There are certain functions on AGP graphics cards which, according to the AGP specs *require* cache flushes after they've been used. If this is not done then operation after that is undefined. Part of the reason that nvidia achieve such high performance is cutting corners on things like this. It's just possible that the effect of this corner cutting is felt more on AMD hardware than on intel. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users
[Flightgear-users] Slackware Packages
New Slackware 8.0/8.1 and 9.0 packages for FlightGear 0.9.1 are now available at http://flightgear.stockill.org.uk/ Enjoy! -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users
