Are you really talking about NATIONALISM, which to me is a kind of defense,
or at least support, of the "flag" and all it stands for -- OR, are you
talking about a kind of regionalism, which is more about regional culture and
history than politics?
In a message dated 07/04/2000 9:57:08 AM
In a message dated 07/02/2000 10:06:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I so agree.
With Emily.
Interesting fact: Many of Emily's great poems (rhythm schemes) can be sung to
the tune of The Yellow Rose of Texas as in:
Although I could not stop for Death
Death kindly
In a message dated 06/29/2000 8:28:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
using the diminution of the bulging, brightly colored simian anus in
the course of our evolution from ape to human as a metaphor for the
repression of primitive impulses by bourgeois culture {
In a message dated 06/28/2000 10:03:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
“If they give you lined paper, write the other way.”
Bruce Conner
21st Century update:
When people give you a sheet of white paper for your printer, make it
landscape.
Hmmm. Just doesn't have
In a message dated 06/28/2000 8:15:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Cease practice based on intellectual
understanding, pursuing words and following
after
speech, and learn the
In a message dated 06/27/2000 2:49:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Look at Burroughs, Kerouac, Neil Cassidy, Allen Ginsberg. The beats took
obscenity to a whole new level of art; perhaps the deterioration of the
values
in america and the world will now form a new
In a message dated 06/27/2000 5:05:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
in the cynical 00's melancholy itself becomes a kind of
commodity
I think it's now officially been term the 0-dec. (oh-dec) for 00 decade. So
that would read, " . . . in the cynical 0-dec . . ."
In a message dated 06/27/2000 4:12:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
last words
little lists
bit players
mean nothing
to anyone
Brace yourself for Brad's chomping at the bit players . . .
In a message dated 06/27/2000 1:09:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
. Making sex beautiful, that's trangressive.
In other words, letting transgression be beside the point, neither courted
nor
avoided, and pursuing, with avidity, what one loves. Defending, with
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 06/27/2000 5:05:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
in the cynical 00's melancholy itself becomes a kind of
commodity
I think it's now officially been term the 0-dec. (oh-dec) for 00
I have no idea what that had to do with me being a sociopath, but hey.
Did someone call you a sociopath? Missed that, and certainly I don't think of you as a
sociopath. But I do feel everyone is on a path of some sort.
BP
In a message dated 06/27/2000 10:30:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kathy Acker's treatments of obscenity might interest you; they hold
more
interest
for me than the rather stale patriarchal guilt/desire of, say, Miller.
I think it was Foucault who
In a message dated 06/26/2000 5:34:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I assume it's Jalaluddin Rumi the 13th Century( I think) poet, his poetry
is
related to Sufism but I'm sure the search engines can find you more details
than I can give.
Mevlana Jalaluddin Rumi,
In a message dated 06/25/2000 11:19:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PA UBU.- Hornstrumpot! we shall not have succeeded in demolishing
everything until we have demolished the ruins as well. But the only way
I can see of doing that is to use them to put up a lot of fine,
This is a really interesting thread for me. It's made me think about:
1. What's the point of transgression when the transgressor (artist?) is so
impotent heshe can only act it out on against other artists on an artist
list. Isn't that like the "cannilbalism of the left" that went on the the
http://www.sheldrake.org/experiments/constants/
A very interesting read . . . physicist Rupert Sheldrake (the guy who gave us
"morphic resonance"--one of my fave theories) asks the question:
Do physical constants fluctuate? Like maybe the speed of light IS NOT the
constant we thought it was.
cosmic fecundity
lingering Platonism
mutant constants
the psychology of metrologists -- regarding inaccurate measurements due to:
intellectual phase locking
the permittivity of free space
In a message dated 06/24/2000 11:54:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is a Zen parable relating to this idea of "beating a dead horse":
There's also an Arkansas parable relating to this idea of a "dead horse".
Billy Joe and Dwight were brothers who lived together,
And then there's the Western Art Burger, later known as the White Castle . .
. which is small, and only good to eat while it's hot.
In a message dated 06/08/2000 11:50:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well--there's great old country western song on this subject:
"There is no instant replay (In the Football Game of Life)"
And then there was "Drop kick me Jesus, through the goalposts of life",
In a message dated 06/08/2000 9:44:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"I told my dad I'd stopped raising hell and he called me a
quitter."
I told my dad I didn't ask to be born and he said, "It's a good thing you
didn't, you'd have been
In a message dated 06/06/2000 12:14:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And maybe the "holy cows", if they are to be attacked, are better hit, par
hasard. But I dont know of any "holy cows" worth to be attacked now.
Maybe labor etc...
Do holy cows make leather jackets
Yes, I'd love to talk about this. First of all, what is "the new mentality"?
Is there only one? "The" is such a strong, exclusive word, though it's in
such common useage, we barely notice it's propriatariness. Oh. Perhaps "the"
now refers to 6 instead of one?
Barg
In a message dated
BestPoet
In a message dated 05/29/2000 12:38:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench,
a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free,
and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
--Hunter S.
Fluxlist is 8 letters
if you count the "l" twice
otherwise
it's only 7
and some say 7
has religious significance.
In a message dated 05/21/2000 5:43:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The majority of young males who were my students in the South Bronx said
they
didn't expect to live beyond 21. Now that's sad. They sussed out that
society
had no slots for them and wasn't
In a message dated 05/23/2000 9:12:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I meant to say, Selavy, as he was in touch with his feminine
side...
would that be on the left or right side?
In a message dated 05/23/2000 2:02:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A lot of villages -- maybe most of them--do a really crappy job of raising
their
children. But the rest of the world, it's still there. And anyone can see
and hear
and feel it. Maybe that's the
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench,
a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free,
and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
--Hunter S. Thompson
Ah, a breath of fresh air. Thank you George.
In a message dated 05/18/2000 10:25:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The phrase "property is theft" is from Proudhon. His view was not at all
simplistic, but based on a critique of the capital - labour relation...
In
In a message dated 05/17/2000 12:43:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perhaps they were
precocious city kids, these particular kids, or maybe as I fear and
as the look attested to, they were normal, basic kids with a high
level of cynicism and an abnormally low level
Personally, I believe some of the best art gets done in spite of
circumstances, not necessarily because of circumstances. And I think that
it's often more interesting to see art that had to claw it's way into
existence, instead of art that was coddled and nursed by nannies.
It always sounds
In a message dated 05/11/2000 11:46:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Let he who is painting stones first cast good.
Let he who is first in the cast paint stones for good.
Let good she who is cast repaint the stones.
In a message dated 05/10/2000 7:05:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What are good paintings ?
What good are paintings !
a good painting is without sin
From "The Terrordome", an article by Chuck D. of Public Enemy.
First I like to get directly to the points
1. The day of the one dimensional naïve artist is over
2. 95% of all music will be free, at least for a period
3. The whole financial structure of the entertainment business is in the
In a message dated 05/09/2000 2:07:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A composer is a dead man unless he composes for all the media and
for his world."
This reminds me of Month Python's Decomposing Composer song. Thanks Patricia,
and if yr up to it, I'd love to see the
In a message dated 05/08/2000 12:46:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Terrence writes;
The Fable of the Fluxus Pebble...
"...a my little fluxter, you will know only when you can take the
Fluxus Pebble from my hand..."
T.
The Fable of the Fluxus Princess and
In a message dated 05/08/2000 1:06:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
*gasp*
Princess Petal
Er, I didn't realize you'd referred to yrself as Princess. My Princess Fable
had nothing to do with yr Princess, Patricia. Only the Pebble thing reminded
me of the princess
In a message dated 05/08/2000 1:01:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Patricia, I did take a look, and the thing on the 400,000-yr-old pigment
finds was great. The range of color, that it was apparently used as body
paint, the fact that painting predates the physical
Can we ask bands to return cd money for the portion of the cds that aren't
any good? Like when you have to buy a whole cd to get two or three songs you
really like? Why do we have to pay for all the songs when we don't want em?
In a message dated 05/08/2000 6:20:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How about we cut out the bits of paintings we don't like, too, and demand
our
money back? How come people who complain about spending their hardearned
money
on art always follow up by criticizing
In a message dated 05/07/2000 1:51:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BTW, what is with all the surliness and one liners to newcomers and new
ideas?
sheeez.
I guess you didn't see The Fight Club . . .
The first rule of Fluxus is not to talk about Fluxus.
While being here is certainly pleasant, it is not entirely fullfilling. You
see, there is the definition of FLUXUS... and while I have been presented
with variious artists who exemplefiy FLUXUS in action, and I certainly find
their work
Folks:
The latest virus is the "I Love You" virus.
DO NOT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT ON AN EMAIL WITH THE
SUBJECT "I LOVE YOU". (It infects your address
list).
Just a friendly warning...
Rod
YES! I'm consulting at a law firm on Wall Street today, and the virus has hit the
entire firm, and people
Speaking of drawing a line in the sand, and for those who think capitalism is the
great democratic umbrella of nice things and happy stomachs . . .
http://www.planetwaves.net/A16-lead.html
http://www.planetwaves.net/A16-detail.html
I bet they don't pronounce it the same.
In a message dated 05/03/2000 6:43:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He said he didn't know that the sky could be so blue because in
Communist China there is so much pollution that the sky is gray everywhere
you go
So it's interesting that China keeps winning our most
I can't really decide exactly how I'd like to kill myself. I know I can't
jump off a building, I just don't have the guts for that. I always thought
drugs would be a nice way to go . . . I mean, the right combination of drugs.
Don't think I could do the gun thing in the mouth either. I've
And also, in many cases, the people calling themselves the left leaders weren't such
rational actors themselves.
And of course, the great confusion of which "issues" were the most important: racial,
gender, class, sexual orientation, etc. I still think the left is having trouble
making space
Capitalism has made possible the highest standard of living known in the
history of mankind. I find it ironic that those who claim to work on
behalf of "the little guy" these days are those who too speak out the
most against capitalism.
I don't speak on behalf of the little guy. I AM the
I heard tell of a guy in Memphis (when I lived there) who had a big library and
shelved his books according to author's birthdays. And could always find the book he
was looking for . . .
1:15pm --lunch "break"
Downtown New York City, near Wall Street
Room temperature with flourescent sky. . .grey undercast (carpet) . . .
Donna's decision to appear in a
sexually provocative play certainly looks like a thumb in the eye.
That's probably Rudy's idea of how to give a woman an orgasm . . .
Genetic Code
(or, the mind/body problem solved)
mindnbsp/mind
Did Cage benefit George's garbageman?
Please! Garbageperson.
(followed by a bunch of Popeye yuks . . .)
BestPoet
(who, as near as I can figure, is a female, not a male)
In a message dated 04/24/2000 7:47:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is a voice? ... I think what Cage was against was the habitual voice.
He wanted to transform speaking, music.
Thanks George.
I do agree with what you say about Cage, and, as I said, this wasn't
No wonder I can't read fiction anymore. The characters we inherit/invent to
live out are so much more interesting. Great story.
In a message dated 04/23/2000 12:22:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Terrence writes;
minidisc is he way i like to go. I carry both recored
In a message dated 04/23/2000 12:52:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, I think Language poetry, and other poetries that weighted linguistic
experimentation heavier than expression, were driven by several things in
their
historical moment.
1. Lowell et al, all
I find this an amusing Rumi poem about vocations . . . especially his idea of
what not to commit . . . not so plausible in our age, I guess . . .
especially after the AA virus . .
Proper Vocation
Nothing occupies us, Sir,
save service to that cupbearer;
Saki! another round, please
In a message dated 04/22/2000 1:12:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
George Free wrote:
If production was involved, it should be of the non-expressive,
non-intentional sort -- a la Cage, Mac Low etc.
Anyone read the "Gematria" stuff that Jerome Rothenberg did?
In a message dated 04/22/2000 5:07:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
George et al
It's the Cagean "depersonalization of the artist" chance operations
proceedures which account for this bias. Jackson MacLow's poetry is an
excellent
example.
RA
Ye-ah, I
Forgive my thickheadedness. But I don't quite get what you're trying to say.
Like why does art=art en francais and art=being in english? That is not at
all clear to me.
In a message dated 04/22/2000 5:40:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
en francais:
etre=to be
je
In a message dated 04/21/2000 8:31:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
me. Quite bland. I think Rimbaud's life was more interesting than his
art. That's my
Matineee d'ivresse ?
Yes, but did you think that when you were a teenager?
In a message dated 03/25/2000 3:01:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 03/24/2000 6:10:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Fluxus is like a joke
in that you "get it" or you don't
whatabout:
In a message dated 03/24/2000 6:10:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Fluxus is like a joke
in that you "get it" or you don't
whatabout:
fluxus is like a state of mind in which
"no-preconception is the pre-condition to discovery"?
I'd really appreciate it if people
let your raincoat be a laugh
Wouldn't that lead to a high rate of pregnancies?
Sorry, don't understand - is this a language/ translation thing?
- Roger
Sorry. "Raincoat" is slang for prophalactics (spelling?) -- those rubber sheaths used
to restrain conception.
In a message dated 02/18/2000 7:45:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I had one thousand unread fluxlist messages - (amongst the read ones -
going
back to October) I was constantly being reminded of this
by a little winking reminder in the corner of the screen. The good
Snowbody Snows Snowhere Snowman
He's a real snowhere man
Living in his snowhere land
Doesn't give a snowhere damn
For snowbody
Snowbody snows the trouble I seen.
Snowbody snows but sneeze us.
Snowbody snows the trouble I seen
Gloria, Hal and Lulu
Don't give a damn bout snowbody either
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