Re: [fonc] Apple and hardware (was: Error trying to compile COLA)

2012-03-16 Thread Marcel Weiher
On Mar 16, 2012, at 0:03 , Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: Marcel Weiher wrote on Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:33:07 +0100 I have a little Postscript interpreter/scratchpad in the AppStore (TouchScript, http://itunes.apple.com/en/app/touchscript/id398914579?mt=8 ). Admittedly, it was mostly a trial

Re: [fonc] Apple and hardware (was: Error trying to compile COLA)

2012-03-15 Thread Marcel Weiher
On Mar 14, 2012, at 17:17 , Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: Alan Kay wrote on Wed, 14 Mar 2012 05:53:21 -0700 (PDT) No matter what Apple says, the reasons clearly stem from strategies and tactics of economic exclusion. So I agree with Max that the iPad at present is really the anti-Dynabook

Re: [fonc] Apple and hardware (was: Error trying to compile COLA)

2012-03-15 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr.
Alan Kay wrote on Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:44:33 -0700 (PDT) The CRISP was too slow, and had other problems in its details. Sakoman liked it ... Thanks for the information! Just looking at the papers about it I had the impression that it would be reasonably faster than an ARM at the same clock

Re: [fonc] Apple and hardware (was: Error trying to compile COLA)

2012-03-14 Thread Mack
Jay Freeman has also released his Wraith Scheme for the iPad. On Mar 14, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: Alan Kay wrote on Wed, 14 Mar 2012 05:53:21 -0700 (PDT) A hardware vendor with huge volumes (like Apple) should be able to get a CPU vendor to make HW that offers real

Re: [fonc] Apple and hardware (was: Error trying to compile COLA)

2012-03-14 Thread Alan Kay
Yep, I was there and trying to get the Newton project off the awful ATT chip they had first chosen. Larry Tesler (who worked with us at PARC) finally wound up taking over this project and doing a number of much better things with it. Overall what happened with Newton was too bad -- it could

Re: [fonc] Apple and hardware (was: Error trying to compile COLA)

2012-03-14 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr.
Alan Kay wrote on Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Yep, I was there and trying to get the Newton project off the awful ATT chip they had first chosen. Interesting - a few months ago I studied the datasheets for the Hobbit and read all the old CRISP papers and found this chip rather cute.

Re: [fonc] Apple and hardware (was: Error trying to compile COLA)

2012-03-14 Thread Alan Kay
Hi Jecel The CRISP was too slow, and had other problems in its details. Sakoman liked it ... Bill Atkinson did Hypercard ... Larry made many other contributions at Xerox and Apple To me the Dynabook has always been 95% a service model and 5% physical specs (there were three main physical