Re: [fonc] Other interesting projects?

Yes, I'm very interested in the theory part of stack language, especially functional ones like Joy and Cat are fun. I even wrote them in Squeak and Javascript. You can play with it at http://www.cat-language.com/interpreter.html Cheers, - Takashi On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:23 AM, John Zabroski w

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correction, Takashi Yamamiyacited that paper in http://www.vpri.org/pdf/tr2007008_steps.pdf On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Dominikus Herzberg < herzb...@hs-heilbronn.de> wrote: > Hi John, > > I don't want to do Ian something wrong. That's how I remember our > discussion. If of importance, let's

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Hi John, I don't want to do Ian something wrong. That's how I remember our discussion. If of importance, let's chrosscheck with him. Cheers, Dominikus 2010/5/10 John Zabroski > I can't seem to find the paper where VPRI references it, but somewhere I > think they reference Henry Baker's 1993 p

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I can't seem to find the paper where VPRI references it, but somewhere I think they reference Henry Baker's 1993 paper The Forth Shall Be First [1]. I think Ian or Alex referenced this, which is sort of weird considering Dominikus's S3 Potsdam Germany anecdote that Ian said he didn't have a deep, v

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uld be fun and enlightening here would be Erlang. >> (This would be a nice target for the Lively Kernel stuff also) >> >> All of this would contribute greatly to "deep thoughts" about how the real >> grounding of STEPS should be approached. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alan >> >>

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FYI, there are some "failed experiments" left over in this grammar. Like the "[" exprs:xs "]" syntax for tuples and the whole idea of tuple reductions (e.g., "∧[" expr:x "]). Dan On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Alessandro Warth wrote: > Hi Chris, > Here's the nile parser that I wrote in OMeta/S

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Hi Chris, glad to have you around! On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Double wrote: > On 10/05/10 04:59, Alan Kay wrote: >> >> There are already >> quite a few Smalltalk elements in Factor (and the postfix language >> itself (for most things) could be used as the byte-code engine for a >> Smal

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Hi Chris, Here's the nile parser that I wrote in OMeta/Squeak. Cheers, Alex On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Double wrote: > On 10/05/10 04:59, Alan Kay wrote: > >> There are already >> quite a few Smalltalk elements in Factor (and the postfix language >> itself (for most things) could be

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On 10/05/10 04:59, Alan Kay wrote: There are already quite a few Smalltalk elements in Factor (and the postfix language itself (for most things) could be used as the byte-code engine for a Smalltalk (looking backwards) and for more adventurous designs (looking forward)). Factor already has a Sm

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e, but not as much in the spirit of STEPS as OBJ is. Cheers, Alan From: Murat Girgin To: Fundamentals of New Computing Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 11:54:32 AM Subject: Re: [fonc] Other interesting projects? A couple more projects to consider: - OBJ family languag

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f STEPS should be approached. > > Cheers, > > Alan > > > ---------- > *From:* Dominikus Herzberg > > *To:* Fundamentals of New Computing > *Sent:* Sun, May 9, 2010 9:46:17 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [fonc] Other interesting projects? > > Dear

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this would contribute greatly to "deep thoughts" about how the real grounding of STEPS should be approached. Cheers, Alan From: Dominikus Herzberg To: Fundamentals of New Computing Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 9:46:17 AM Subject: Re: [fonc] Other inter

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he Factor compiler? > > There's a lot to like about Factor, but Could you imagine something > simpler better and more comprehensive than Factor as a foundation? > > Cheers, > > Alan > > -- > *From:* Max OrHai > *To:* Fundame

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rying to make all of the core stuff work...). ... - Original Message ----- From: Alan Kay To: Fundamentals of New Computing Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [fonc] Other interesting projects? Hi Max, Well, what properties do you think might be "en

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0 5:54:01 PM Subject: Re: [fonc] Other interesting projects? Thanks for asking. I don't really have much first hand experience here (which is why I asked in the first place), and that phrase doesn't immediately ring a bell. Factor has reflection, continuations, optional typing, and

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Hello Max! almost exactly two years ago, I asked Ian Piumarta from VPRI a similar question on the S3 (Self-Sustaining Systems) workshop in Potsdam, Germany: Aren't Forth and especially Factor interesting candidates for FONC? He definitely agreed, but admitted not having so much experience with sta

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Thanks for asking. I don't really have much first hand experience here (which is why I asked in the first place), and that phrase doesn't immediately ring a bell. Factor has reflection, continuations, optional typing, and meta-programming features. It supports functional, OO, and dataflow programm

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Hi Max, Well, what properties do you think might be "enormously problematic" with stack languages ? Cheers, Alan From: Max OrHai To: Fundamentals of New Computing Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 4:49:14 PM Subject: [fonc] Other interesting projects? Hello all.