RE: Defoe

2004-10-29 Thread Victor Mote
Peter B. West wrote: I've started a blog as a diary of Defoe development and, at the moment, my learning experiences with Java 5.0, especially Typesafe Enums and Generics. If you drop in there from time to time, you can see what I am up to. Have you considered one for FOray? I

Re: Defoe

2004-10-29 Thread Clay Leeds
I think it would be helpful for you both to include an 'examples' section on your site to display the fruits of your labor (w links to the FOs that generated them!). On Oct 29, 2004, at 5:02 AM, Victor Mote wrote: Peter B. West wrote: I've started a blog as a diary of Defoe development and, at

RE: Defoe

2004-10-29 Thread Victor Mote
Clay Leeds wrote: I think it would be helpful for you both to include an 'examples' section on your site to display the fruits of your labor (w links to the FOs that generated them!). That is a good idea. The FOray web site started out thinking of itself as an extension of the FOP website

Re: Defoe

2004-10-28 Thread Clay Leeds
I'd meant to comment on this before, but was hoping for a little discussion from other FOP committers. Perhaps I was waiting until the body got even 'colder'... Speaking for myself, I want to be clear that I (and I assume others) feel very fortunate to have had the benefit of the work of Peter

Re: Defoe

2004-10-28 Thread Peter B. West
Clay, Thanks for the comments. I would be interested to see the alt-design doco running under the new Forrest regime before it is removed, because I would like to take advantage of your hard work in coming to terms with Forrest. It was difficult to get the documentation working in the

Re: Defoe

2004-10-28 Thread Clay Leeds
I'd be happy to help out! Of course, since it appears to be moving anyway, it might be easier for me to move your documentation to a new forrest install and go from there. Either way, I'm happy to do what I can. (IOW pile it on! :-p) Web Maestro Clay On Oct 28, 2004, at 2:00 PM, Peter B. West

Re: Defoe

2004-10-28 Thread Peter B. West
Thanks Clay. Please disregard deeply unworthy comment on a previous message. Peter Clay Leeds wrote: I'd be happy to help out! Of course, since it appears to be moving anyway, it might be easier for me to move your documentation to a new forrest install and go from there. Either way, I'm happy

Re: Defoe

2004-10-28 Thread Glen Mazza
--- Clay Leeds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking for myself, I want to be clear that I (and I assume others) feel very fortunate to have had the benefit of the work of Peter B. West on the alt.design portion of FOP. With the possibility of Peter moving on to work with Defoe, I just

Re: Defoe

2004-10-28 Thread Clay Leeds
On Oct 28, 2004, at 3:21 PM, Glen Mazza wrote: --- Clay Leeds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking for myself, I want to be clear that I (and I assume others) feel very fortunate to have had the benefit of the work of Peter B. West on the alt.design portion of FOP. With the possibility of Peter

RE: Defoe

2004-10-28 Thread Victor Mote
Peter: I too wish you the best of luck with Defoe and with whatever your future FOP involvement may be. One of my motivations with the modularization work was to make room for the competing ideas, mostly yours, to share what could be shared. This may help explain my frustration at your opposition

Re: Defoe

2004-10-28 Thread Peter B. West
Victor, Thank you for the compliments. It's interesting to see the development of a multiple approaches, and the strength with which differing views are held. I've started a blog as a diary of Defoe development and, at the moment, my learning experiences with Java 5.0, especially Typesafe

Re: Defoe

2004-10-23 Thread Glen Mazza
Best of luck with Defoe! And, ummm, if you could pardon me for not waiting until the body is cold (Well OK...98.3...98.1...97.9--there! Practically an ice cube now... ;), I think we should have the Alt-Design tab moved off the FOP website and on to Defoe's, and place a link instead on our

Re: Defoe

2004-10-22 Thread Peter B. West
Fops, I originally thought I was replying to an offline message here. Hence the unusual tone. Peter Peter B. West wrote: Finn, No, it hasn't been made yet. ... Finn Bock wrote: Hi Peter, Did I miss the announcement? http://defoe.sourceforge.net/ regards, finn

Re: Defoe

2004-10-20 Thread Peter B. West
Finn, No, it hasn't been made yet. I don't see much point in announcing it until I have a more substantial framework. The other developers are guys who have expressed an interest, but haven't actually become involved yet, so it's all pretty new. I've just set up a blog at