Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-10 Thread Renaud Richardet
Let me sum up this tread to see if I get the picture: * Sun's codec [1] will not be integrated. * instead, Batik's transcoders will be used [2]. * where and how these transcoders will be made available to fop will be discussed next week [3] * I'll start by implementing basic functionalities for

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-10 Thread Jeremias Maerki
That's all correct although the third point does not really have anything to do with the bitmap renderer. On 10.03.2005 14:34:57 Renaud Richardet wrote: Let me sum up this tread to see if I get the picture: * Sun's codec [1] will not be integrated. * instead, Batik's transcoders will be used

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-09 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Thanks to Glen for raising the issue. The ideal approach is if Oleg would pack up his TIFFRenderer and donate it to the ASF accompanied with a software grant [1], but Oleg is a FOP committer and has a CLA on file. So if Oleg attaches a ZIP with the sources for the

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-09 Thread Jeremias Maerki
That's no problem, I think, because Batik has a TIFF encoder [3] already in their codebase and we can move this code to the common area and use that. Shouldn't be difficult to adjust. Otherwise, I'd rather use ImageIO even if it's only available in JDKs =1.4. [3]

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-09 Thread Peter B. West
Renaud Richardet wrote: Peter, let me answer you last mail [1] here: You are right that the wiki is still vague about the detailled implementation of the different renderers. Actually, I haven't started to think about it until today. I will put my ideas tomorrow on the wiki. I would be happy if

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-09 Thread Renaud Richardet
I downloaded sun's codecs [2] that Oleg used in his TIFFRenderer. Jeremias, you mean that we can legally just put those in the FOP-code? Following codecs are included in [2]: - TIFF - JPEG - PNG - BMP So it should be possible to create a renderer for each of this file formats. But do we need them

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-09 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 09.03.2005 12:51:11 Renaud Richardet wrote: I downloaded sun's codecs [2] that Oleg used in his TIFFRenderer. Jeremias, you mean that we can legally just put those in the FOP-code? This would have to be checked out. I'd rather not, especially when we have PNG and TIFF codecs under Apache

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-09 Thread Glen Mazza
--- Jeremias Maerki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otherwise, I'd rather use ImageIO even if it's only available in JDKs =1.4. I thought FOP should be 1.3 compilant [3]? So how do we go around that? That's right. But nothing stops us from providing additional code that's JDK 1.4

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-09 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Jeremias Maerki wrote: That's no problem, I think, because Batik has a TIFF encoder [3] already in their codebase and we can move this code to the common area and use that. Shouldn't be difficult to adjust. Last time I checked Batik's TIFF encoder was kinda limited WRT some TIFF compressions, and

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-09 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Jeremias Maerki wrote: I would like to suggest that you implement TIFF and PNG output using Batik's codecs. Yep, that's the best solution. But please check that Batik's TIFF codec supports all TIFF compressions Sun's codec does. 2 years ago it was sort of limited, particularly wrt fax

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-09 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Yes, please, because it's a lot easier to handle inside an IDE. You simply define an additional source folder if you're on JDK 1.4, and you don't get compile error on JDK 1.3. On 09.03.2005 16:34:39 Glen Mazza wrote: --- Jeremias Maerki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otherwise, I'd rather use

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-09 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Ah, there's the catch. Yes, CCITT4 is particularly interesting which is not supported by the code in Batik. But still, I think we don't have to support everything under JDK 1.3. I wonder how many people under JDK 1.3 would need that particular compression type. And if they really do they then have

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-09 Thread Glen Mazza
--- Jeremias Maerki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, there's the catch. Yes, CCITT4 is particularly interesting which is not supported by the code in Batik. But still, I think we don't have to I don't think we have to support everything under JDK 1.3. Or anything, for that matter. 1.3 users

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 9 mars 05, à 01:12, Glen Mazza a écrit : ...[Thanks also to Bertrand for sending Renaud our way. This is the second quality developer--Peter Herweg being the other--that we have gotten from him since I've been on this project.].. You're welcome - and you don't even know how many people I sent

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

2005-03-08 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Thanks to Glen for raising the issue. The ideal approach is if Oleg would pack up his TIFFRenderer and donate it to the ASF accompanied with a software grant [1], but Oleg is a FOP committer and has a CLA on file. So if Oleg attaches a ZIP with the sources for the TIFFRenderer (ALv2 already