RE: FOP logo update
OK, there it is, in the same directory as the svg file. Victor Mote -Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FOP logo update Victor Mote wrote: Clay Leeds wrote: I was unable to make much progress on this topic. I am unable to get SVG and/or vector versions of the logo. We do, however, have a JPG version. Thanks for your efforts here. I'll work on creating an svg version. I just checked in src/documentation/resources/images/logo2.svg, which is the first pass at an svg version of the new logo. Please let me know if you have any comments, even if you think that it is OK as is. I know some wanted to tweak it, and this is probably not a perfect image of the original design anyway. Also, does it make sense to check in the Adobe Illustrator file that was used to create it? That might make editing it easier. Victor Mote I think it makes sense to check in the Illustrator file used to create the file. I'll check it out and let you know what I think. Web Maestro Clay
RE: FOP logo update
Victor Mote wrote: Clay Leeds wrote: I was unable to make much progress on this topic. I am unable to get SVG and/or vector versions of the logo. We do, however, have a JPG version. Thanks for your efforts here. I'll work on creating an svg version. I just checked in src/documentation/resources/images/logo2.svg, which is the first pass at an svg version of the new logo. Please let me know if you have any comments, even if you think that it is OK as is. I know some wanted to tweak it, and this is probably not a perfect image of the original design anyway. Also, does it make sense to check in the Adobe Illustrator file that was used to create it? That might make editing it easier. Victor Mote
Re: FOP logo update
Victor Mote wrote: Clay Leeds wrote: I was unable to make much progress on this topic. I am unable to get SVG and/or vector versions of the logo. We do, however, have a JPG version. Thanks for your efforts here. I'll work on creating an svg version. I just checked in src/documentation/resources/images/logo2.svg, which is the first pass at an svg version of the new logo. Please let me know if you have any comments, even if you think that it is OK as is. I know some wanted to tweak it, and this is probably not a perfect image of the original design anyway. Also, does it make sense to check in the Adobe Illustrator file that was used to create it? That might make editing it easier. Victor Mote I think it makes sense to check in the Illustrator file used to create the file. I'll check it out and let you know what I think. Web Maestro Clay
RE: FOP logo update
Clay Leeds wrote: I was unable to make much progress on this topic. I am unable to get SVG and/or vector versions of the logo. We do, however, have a JPG version. Thanks for your efforts here. I'll work on creating an svg version. Victor Mote
RE: FOP logo (+ a graphics question)
Clay Leeds wrote: What is the status of the FOP logo? If we need it tweaked, I can help. That would be great. The last word on the subject is here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=105593071722327w=2 Here is what I suggest: 1. Find the SVG document for #30, which won the contest. It looks like Oleg doesn't have it. Would you please contact Scott Hofman directly (see the above link for a link to him) to obtain a copy of it, create a Bugzilla issue with it attached, and we'll get it into the repository. 2. We need to decide 1) whether additional tweaking is necessary, and 2) how to decide what tweaking needs to be done, 3) get the tweaking actually done (in addition to your offer, I think Scott made a similar offer), and committed to the repository. I propose that we take the logo as is, and revisit the issue in the future if we think its important. I don't think we can afford to spend any more bandwidth on it now. Here is my +1. 3. Research where the logo is needed. I can't think of any place other than our website. For each place it is needed, we need to consider making a jpg scaled properly. The existing jpg may be fine. 4. We'll need to get our Forrest web build to pick up the svg and/or the jpg. Probably the most efficient way to proceed is for me to see if it can be done easily. 5. When this is all done visible, we can remove the logocontest page. Thanks for helping get this done. I think it is useful to get some of this old stuff cleaned up, to clear the decks. Victor Mote - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP logo
Victor Mote wrote: It might be good to have a time window for submissions a separate time window for voting. If everybody went out and voted today, we would have a lot of extra votes for the moose that might not be there after the choices are all visible (just kidding -- I like our logo). Makes sense. But then we have to have separate pages for submissions and voting as there is no way to prevent voting on web poll page. Anyway those votes are just public opinions and I'd reserve jury rights for us. And I removed those moose (I had it just because poll require 2 options). Also, it would be good to state that everyone should vote only once (honor system). I belive this particular polling system block double voting using IP and coookie, anyway lets add a appeal. So: - everyone can participate - no reward except for pride - winner image is donated to apache under ASL, but authorship is preserved - final result should be in SVG (is it required/feasible?) - reasonable size - everyone can vote, but only fop team picks out the winner - duration - one month - where to put images: o contestant's site o our place - please vote only once (honor system) We have to place the rules somewhere and then if nobody objects we can start it. If you need a place to put the images, I'll be happy to put them on my site. Fine. Oleg, here is the URL for Bernd Brandstetter's submission the other day: http://outfitr.com/fop/logo/fop-parrot-logo.png Added. -- Oleg Tkachenko eXperanto team Multiconn Technologies, Israel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP logo
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Why don't we announce a competition. +1 +1 Set out some basic rules, provide somewhere to put the images and for others to make comments. The image could be any format but the final result should be SVG. There are some basic sizes, logo image, powered by size, others? Would that be a possibility? http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/640946%22 sparklit.com rocks. So what about: - everyone can participate - no reward except for pride - winner image is donated to apache under ASL, but authorship is preserved - final result should be in SVG - reasonable size - everyone can vote, but only fop team picks out the winner - duration - one month - where to put images: o contestant's site o fop's site - vote.sparklit.com (free, probably ad-ware) - what else? -- Oleg Tkachenko eXperanto team Multiconn Technologies, Israel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP logo
Hello! I have prepared free web poll at http://vote.sparklit.com/web_poll.spark/714566. I'm not sure about background...Comments? Anybody interested in admin rights - mail me. -- Oleg Tkachenko eXperanto team Multiconn Technologies, Israel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FOP logo
Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Why don't we announce a competition. +1 +1 +1 - what else? It might be good to have a time window for submissions a separate time window for voting. If everybody went out and voted today, we would have a lot of extra votes for the moose that might not be there after the choices are all visible (just kidding -- I like our logo). Also, it would be good to state that everyone should vote only once (honor system). If you need a place to put the images, I'll be happy to put them on my site. Oleg, here is the URL for Bernd Brandstetter's submission the other day: http://outfitr.com/fop/logo/fop-parrot-logo.png Victor Mote - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP logo
Peter B. West wrote: I mentioned the need for a logo some months ago to an acquaintance of mine who is a graphics design student. She came up with some interesting ideas, but they were incomplete the last time I spoke to her (just before Christmas.) I will try to get in touch with her again, and get her to post some of her sketches for comment. Well, a jury is waiting :) -- Oleg Tkachenko eXperanto team Multiconn Technologies, Israel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FOP logo
Why don't we announce a competition. I've been thinking of writing to this list for a while to offer 'graphic' help to the project (My background is Art Design not CS) and would love to take part :-) regards Andy This e-mail and its attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please telephone or e-mail us immediately, delete this message from your system and do not read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use this e-mail message and any attachments. Although ri3k Limited believes this e-mail and any attachments to be free of any virus or other defect which may affect your computer, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and ri3k Limited does not accept any responsibility for any loss or damage in any way from its use. ri3k Limited Registered in England: 10-12 Ely Place, London, EC1N 6RY Company Number: 3909745 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP logo
On Monday 13 January 2003 11:01, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Bernd Brandstetter wrote: feeling inspired by your's and Oleg's suggestions and also a little bit bored this Sunday afternoon, I thought I'll take the chance and improve my Gimping skills. Here's the result :-) Not bad. Something like this I meant. But (sorry for being critical, it's art, not coding :): why it's sitting back to us. No problem :-) This was in no way meant to be a serious proposal for the logo. I've also created one with a parrot sitting with it's front to us. However, I found this one with it's impish look back over the shoulder much nicer. F and P are too simple. Maybe. But IMHO the letters FOP should be easily readable and the whole logo shouldn't be too overloaded with additional stuff. And I'm not sure about scalability - e.g. how it'll look 3cmX2cm? A vector graphic (preferrably SVG) would of course be better. However, I couldn't find a good-looking vectorized parrot clipart. Regards, Bernd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP logo
Bernd Brandstetter wrote: On Monday 13 January 2003 11:01, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Bernd Brandstetter wrote: feeling inspired by your's and Oleg's suggestions and also a little bit bored this Sunday afternoon, I thought I'll take the chance and improve my Gimping skills. Here's the result :-) Not bad. Something like this I meant. But (sorry for being critical, it's art, not coding :): why it's sitting back to us. No problem :-) This was in no way meant to be a serious proposal for the logo. I've also created one with a parrot sitting with it's front to us. However, I found this one with it's impish look back over the shoulder much nicer. I agree. It's more interesting that way. F and P are too simple. Maybe. But IMHO the letters FOP should be easily readable and the whole logo shouldn't be too overloaded with additional stuff. Yes, but that still leaves quite a bit of room for font experimentation. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ Lord, to whom shall we go? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP logo
At 04:34 PM 1/13/03, you wrote: Maybe. But IMHO the letters FOP should be easily readable and the whole logo shouldn't be too overloaded with additional stuff. Yes, but that still leaves quite a bit of room for font experimentation. I cannot resist - How many programmers does it take to change a logo ?|;^) ' Best, -Ralph LaChance In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. (Jan L.A. van de Snepsheut (1953-1994), late of CalTech) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP logo
Ralph LaChance wrote: At 04:34 PM 1/13/03, you wrote: Maybe. But IMHO the letters FOP should be easily readable and the whole logo shouldn't be too overloaded with additional stuff. Yes, but that still leaves quite a bit of room for font experimentation. I cannot resist - How many programmers does it take to change a logo ?|;^) NaN In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. (Jan L.A. van de Snepsheut (1953-1994), late of CalTech) You've found the attribution. One of my favourites. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ Lord, to whom shall we go? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP logo
On Sunday 12 January 2003 01:35, Peter B. West wrote: Clare's designs (see previous post) were based on a quill inking in the P in a large FOP on a page which also contained Chancery-stle text in a smaller font. The quill was originally supposed to be a connection with the Apache feather, but apparently that particular feather didn't work, and the Apache colours were too garish. Hi, feeling inspired by your's and Oleg's suggestions and also a little bit bored this Sunday afternoon, I thought I'll take the chance and improve my Gimping skills. Here's the result :-) Best regards, Bernd attachment: fop-parrot-logo.png- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP logo
J.Pietschmann wrote: Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Jeremias Maerki wrote: - Do we like our current logo? :-) Uh! Should admit I spent a couple of hours trying to implement my ideas about the logo (leading motifs were medieval typographic dropcaps and a parrot as (imho) the most foppish animal) but I'm too bad artist and the results were too ugly :) What about a TeX-parody? +--- +--\ | | | +-- /--\ +--/ | || | | || | || \--/ Colored as the current logo, or more in shades like the Apache feather? (feather - part of a parrot - hmm) Clare's designs (see previous post) were based on a quill inking in the P in a large FOP on a page which also contained Chancery-stle text in a smaller font. The quill was originally supposed to be a connection with the Apache feather, but apparently that particular feather didn't work, and the Apache colours were too garish. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ Lord, to whom shall we go? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
