Subversion update problems

2007-07-23 Thread Adrian Cumiskey

Hi all,

I realise this isn't a FOP question but when I try to update my trunk 
sandbox with subversion I get svn: Delta source ended unexpectedly. 
Does anyone else experiencing this problem?


svn up -N (non-recursive update works fine)

and so does a fresh checkout of

svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/trunk

but plain old

svn up

doesn't work for me anymore.  This has never happened before so I was 
wondering if some of the branching work may have affected things.



Adrian.


Re: Subversion update problems

2007-07-23 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Hi Adrian,

Adrian Cumiskey a écrit :
 Hi all,
 
 I realise this isn't a FOP question but when I try to update my trunk
 sandbox with subversion I get svn: Delta source ended unexpectedly.
 Does anyone else experiencing this problem?
 
 svn up -N (non-recursive update works fine)
 
 and so does a fresh checkout of
 
 svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/trunk
 
 but plain old
 
 svn up
 
 doesn't work for me anymore.  This has never happened before so I was
 wondering if some of the branching work may have affected things.

I don't know what is going on, but by searching on Google it seems
you're not alone to have encountered the problem. Maybe you will find an
answer on one of the links. Otherwise I'm afraid you will have to go
with a new checkout.

Sorry, no other clue :-\
Vincent


Re: Bounty for auto table layout?

2007-07-23 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Hi Jens,

Jens Bannmann a écrit :
 Vincent Hennebert wrote:
 Question is, also, how to advertise the thing. Would the fop-user
 mailing list be enough to attract donators?
 
 From a quick search, it doesn't seem that the topic was brought up
 previously on that list. Can anyone think of another place where we can
 reach users? I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] might help, too -
 although it's not fop-specific, the DocBook user community is surely
 interested in improving their open source toolchain.

Yes, probably. Given the mostly professional audience there they should
be ok with such an action; all the more if a simple user makes the
proposal and not a FOP developer.


 Andreas L Demelle wrote:
 I do wonder whether the motivation (with or without the bounty) is
 enough by itself to make it happen. (...) I'm under the impression
 that certain other things need to happen first before a decent
 auto-layout implementation becomes a feasible project...
 
 Could you elaborate on that a bit? Without knowing any implementation
 details, I think that all related work would be (implicitly or
 explicitly) included in the funded task and as such done by the developer.

Well I would be curious too ;-) Right now I can't think of anything that
would prevent or impede the development of this feature? Although
there are probably some (many) other missing preliminary things.


snip/
 Vincent, you also indicated interest. What's the required time/bounty
 for you?

Frankly, I can't tell it right now. I would first have to spend some
time studying this part of the code. I'll try and find some time to do
that ASAP.


 I'm pretty convinced that handling this via fundable.org is the way to
 go. The service has been around since 2005 and looks trustworthy. They
 accept payments via PayPal, but only actually charge when the pre-set
 funding goal of a group action is met.

Well, this seems ok.


 What we need to decide on is
 
 a) What is the funding goal (fixed dollar amount)? If it's not met, no
 money is collected, so polls are really needed to get an idea of the
 support base. (Note: fundable.org charges 7% of the goal on success, but
 I think that's fair enough for their service)

Ideally it would cover the whole needed time, to guarantee that the
feature will be available on time. However, if only a few days of
development are missing that would still make it I guess. The rest could
be done in the free time. That should be at the discretion of the chosen
developer of course ;-)


 b) What will be the group action's deadline? I propose two months from
 the day the group action starts. That increases the chance to be
 noticed; if the goal is met before, the group action immediately ends
 anyway.

Well, if companies want to participate they would probably need some
time to prepare a budget for that. That said, I don't think more than 3
months is reasonable, otherwise the interest will vanish.


 c) Who will be group leader of this over at fundable? This person gets
 the money, so it should be someone people trust, i.e. has a background
 with the project etc. (e.g. not me ;-) Ideally, it would be the
 developer, but it could be someone else who passes on the money. (btw:
 the latter would also allow several developers - working parallel or in
 sequence - among which the group leader distributes the money in some
 fair way.)

I'd say someone from the project who is not the developer himself.

Regards,
Vincent



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Re: Bounty for auto table layout?

2007-07-23 Thread Andreas L Delmelle

On Jul 23, 2007, at 16:13, Vincent Hennebert wrote:



Could you elaborate on that a bit? Without knowing any implementation
details, I think that all related work would be (implicitly or
explicitly) included in the funded task and as such done by the  
developer.


Well I would be curious too ;-) Right now I can't think of anything  
that

would prevent or impede the development of this feature? Although
there are probably some (many) other missing preliminary things.


Prevent? No, indeed not. Impede...
Well, have either of you actually /read/ the entire story in the  
Bugzilla 40271? :)



It's not so much impediment, as an increase in the work involved.

Note that, for instance, solving the issue of varying page-ipd (or  
even merely separating the concern of the initial generation of the  
element lists), would already get us an awful lot closer. Right now,  
it is almost impossible to get to the content-widths of the FOs in  
the table, without already going through the whole line-breaking loop...



Cheers

Andreas


Re: Subversion update problems

2007-07-23 Thread Andreas L Delmelle

On Jul 23, 2007, at 15:37, Vincent Hennebert wrote:


Adrian Cumiskey a écrit :

Hi all,

I realise this isn't a FOP question but when I try to update my trunk
sandbox with subversion I get svn: Delta source ended unexpectedly.
Does anyone else experiencing this problem?

svn up -N (non-recursive update works fine)

and so does a fresh checkout of

svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/trunk

but plain old

svn up

doesn't work for me anymore.  This has never happened before so I was
wondering if some of the branching work may have affected things.


I don't know what is going on, but by searching on Google it seems
you're not alone to have encountered the problem. Maybe you will  
find an

answer on one of the links. Otherwise I'm afraid you will have to go
with a new checkout.


Same as Vincent, I didn't exactly know where the trouble lies...  
although I did find this nice explanation in a response to someone  
with a similar problem:


The reason has *always* been because of a messed up wcprop
cache. It's becoming a FAQ at this point.
How it works: when you checkout a file, ra_dav stores a url cache
which uniquely identifies the created-rev/path pair. Later, when you
update the file, ra_dav asks mod_dav_svn for a binary diff against
that specific cached url.

And as one of the possible solutions, other than checking out anew:

1. the immediate solution is to just cd into .svn/wcprops in the
   offending directory, and delete everything. The caches will be
   rebuilt as necessary.



Cheers

Andreas

Re: Subversion update problems

2007-07-23 Thread Adrian Cumiskey

Thanks for the the info,

Yes I found the same tip by googling around also.  Didn´t quite work for me
though, I deleted the .svn/wcprops file and then tried updating and it
didn´t rebuild the cache file.  I isolated the problem to one subversion
directory so ended up just checking out that one folder again and copying my
files across to get it working again, was pretty annoying though.. it seems
subversion is far from perfect :-[

Adrian.

On 23/07/07, Andreas L Delmelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Jul 23, 2007, at 15:37, Vincent Hennebert wrote:

 Adrian Cumiskey a écrit :
 Hi all,

 I realise this isn't a FOP question but when I try to update my trunk
 sandbox with subversion I get svn: Delta source ended unexpectedly.
 Does anyone else experiencing this problem?

 svn up -N (non-recursive update works fine)

 and so does a fresh checkout of

 svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/trunk

 but plain old

 svn up

 doesn't work for me anymore.  This has never happened before so I was
 wondering if some of the branching work may have affected things.

 I don't know what is going on, but by searching on Google it seems
 you're not alone to have encountered the problem. Maybe you will
 find an
 answer on one of the links. Otherwise I'm afraid you will have to go
 with a new checkout.

Same as Vincent, I didn't exactly know where the trouble lies...
although I did find this nice explanation in a response to someone
with a similar problem:

The reason has *always* been because of a messed up wcprop
cache. It's becoming a FAQ at this point.
How it works: when you checkout a file, ra_dav stores a url cache
which uniquely identifies the created-rev/path pair. Later, when you
update the file, ra_dav asks mod_dav_svn for a binary diff against
that specific cached url.

And as one of the possible solutions, other than checking out anew:

1. the immediate solution is to just cd into .svn/wcprops in the
offending directory, and delete everything. The caches will be
rebuilt as necessary.



Cheers

Andreas