Re: keep...="always" and Knuth penalties

2006-07-13 Thread Manuel Mall
On Thursday 13 July 2006 22:09, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > What I tried to propose is mostly just that. Implementing some > shortcut that at least treats all integer values differently from > "always" with a constant penalty value. That gives FOP the > opportunity to relax while still allowing the ra

Re: [VOTE] Promoting AFP and PCL renderers from sandbox to main source tree

2006-07-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Jeremias Maerki wrote: +1 for PCL +0 for AFP (I didn't have time for even a quick glance at it). J.Pietschmann

Re: Images in FOP 0.92beta

2006-07-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Jeremias Maerki wrote: remember this thread on fop-users? I've just found out what's wrong. Great! There's absolutely nothing wrong with the PDFRenderer or the PDF library concerning reference freeing. It does it so as soon as each image is written to the PDF which always happens immediately.

Re: Invitation to Cocoon's GetTogether

2006-07-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Anyone else? No way. Sorry, family and the day job take all the time. J.Pietschmann

Re: Images in FOP 0.92beta

2006-07-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Jörg, remember this thread on fop-users? I've just found out what's wrong. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the PDFRenderer or the PDF library concerning reference freeing. It does it so as soon as each image is written to the PDF which always happens immediately. But I found that org.apach

Re: Invitation to Cocoon's GetTogether

2006-07-13 Thread Andreas L Delmelle
On Jul 13, 2006, at 17:43, Jeremias Maerki wrote: Andreas, what about you? Could you make it to the Cocoon GetTogether? Yep, count me in. Cheers, Andreas

Re: Invitation to Cocoon's GetTogether

2006-07-13 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Jeremias Maerki a écrit : Andreas, what about you? Could you make it to the Cocoon GetTogether? One or two days of Hackathon (discussions, hacking, fun). Anyone else? Jörg, Chris, Finn, Peter, Vincent maybe? I don't know yet what will be my situation at that time, but I will do my best to part

Re: [GSoC] Auto-table layout questions

2006-07-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Uh, no. I just wanted to point out that "auto" is not a valid value for column-width. What you probably meant was the case when the user doesn't specify the column-width property in which case the value is not "auto" but "proportional-column-width(1)" (see FOPropertyMapping). If that's correct and

Re: [GSoC] Auto-table layout questions

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Paul
Thank you for the advice. I will sum this up on the wiki page. So if I understand correctly we have to support certain values even if they are illegal ? Patrick Jeremias Maerki wrote: Right, but strictly speaking the value "auto" is illegal for column-width. FOP currently defaults to "prop

Re: Invitation to Cocoon's GetTogether

2006-07-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Andreas, what about you? Could you make it to the Cocoon GetTogether? One or two days of Hackathon (discussions, hacking, fun). Anyone else? Jörg, Chris, Finn, Peter, Vincent maybe? It would really be good to be at least 3 or 4 FOP people to make the expenses worthwhile. Jeremias Maerki

Re: [VOTE] Promoting AFP and PCL renderers from sandbox to main source tree

2006-07-13 Thread Christian Geisert
Jeremias Maerki schrieb: > Subject says it all. I think it's time. They work pretty well and have > grown beyond sandbox state. I'm sure there maybe a few nits here and > there, but the same applies to the other renderers. +1 I've only tested the PCL renderer a bit but I'm sure the AFP renderer i

Re: keep...="always" and Knuth penalties

2006-07-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
What I tried to propose is mostly just that. Implementing some shortcut that at least treats all integer values differently from "always" with a constant penalty value. That gives FOP the opportunity to relax while still allowing the rather intuitive "always" not to relax thus providing both kinds

Re: [VOTE] Promoting AFP and PCL renderers from sandbox to main source tree

2006-07-13 Thread Web Maestro Clay
On Jul 13, 2006, at 5:55 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote:Subject says it all. I think it's time. They work pretty well and havegrown beyond sandbox state. I'm sure there maybe a few nits here andthere, but the same applies to the other renderers.+1 from me.Jeremias Maerki +1 Web Maestro Clay[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: keep...="always" and Knuth penalties

2006-07-13 Thread Peter B. West
[2] makes sense to me. I would make the same argument regarding 'overflow'. Peter On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 14:19 +0200, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > Fabio Gianetti made a good comment [1]. I answered like this [2]. ... > > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xsl-editors/2006JulSep/0001.html > [2] h

Re: [VOTE] Promoting AFP and PCL renderers from sandbox to main source tree

2006-07-13 Thread Manuel Mall
On Thursday 13 July 2006 20:55, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > Subject says it all. I think it's time. They work pretty well and > have grown beyond sandbox state. I'm sure there maybe a few nits here > and there, but the same applies to the other renderers. > > +1 from me. > Yes, I am biased on this ma

Re: [VOTE] Promoting AFP and PCL renderers from sandbox to main source tree

2006-07-13 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Subject says it all. I think it's time. They work pretty well and have grown beyond sandbox state. I'm sure there maybe a few nits here and there, but the same applies to the other renderers. +1 from me. +1 from me too. My thanks to all those who improved the AFP and PC

Re: keep...="always" and Knuth penalties

2006-07-13 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Fabio Gianetti made a good comment [1]. I answered like this [2]. I'm currently thinking about how best to implement this. To keep it simple for the moment, we could implement "always" like before but remove/disable the overflow recovery I've implemented. That way, the con

[VOTE] Promoting AFP and PCL renderers from sandbox to main source tree

2006-07-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Subject says it all. I think it's time. They work pretty well and have grown beyond sandbox state. I'm sure there maybe a few nits here and there, but the same applies to the other renderers. +1 from me. Jeremias Maerki

Re: keep...="always" and Knuth penalties

2006-07-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Fabio Gianetti made a good comment [1]. I answered like this [2]. I'm currently thinking about how best to implement this. To keep it simple for the moment, we could implement "always" like before but remove/disable the overflow recovery I've implemented. That way, the content would again overflow.

Re: [GSoC] Auto-table layout questions

2006-07-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Right, but strictly speaking the value "auto" is illegal for column-width. FOP currently defaults to "proportional-column-width(1)" if no value is specified. Another thing we should be careful about is the distinction between the value set for table-layout and the effective algorithm to be used. I