Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-11 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 10, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Ron W wrote: > > I recall some discussion about adding fsuser support to Fossil Yes, it was checked in years ago. See src/fusefs.c. Getting FUSE working on Windows is reportedly difficult, however: https://superuser.com/q/179436/14927 > so this could be

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-10 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 11:47 PM wrote: > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 13:26:04 -0500 > From: Artur Shepilko > Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite? > > > project they are working on. Then they use TortoiseSVN to (mostly) commit > > changes to their documents,

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-07 Thread Gilles
On 07/08/2018 20:12, Stephan Beal wrote: That time frame is familiar to me, so i had to check... a couple timeline entries mention his use of libfossil, and late 2014 was when chronic RSI knocked me out of my hobby projects (which included libfossil). Too bad no one read, willing and able

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-07 Thread Stephan Beal
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:15 PM Donald Griggs wrote: > Re: http://www.tortoisefossil.org/index.cgi/index "What you'll find > here is a work in progress " > > Unfortunately, it appears the project is at least on hiatus, if not > abandoned. The last code commit in the timeline was in late

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-07 Thread Gilles
On 07/08/2018 16:14, Donald Griggs wrote: Re: http://www.tortoisefossil.org/index.cgi/index     "What you'll find here is a work in progress  " Unfortunately, it appears the project is at least on hiatus, if not abandoned.  The last code commit in the timeline was in late 2014. It's a known

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-07 Thread Donald Griggs
Re: http://www.tortoisefossil.org/index.cgi/index "What you'll find here is a work in progress " Unfortunately, it appears the project is at least on hiatus, if not abandoned. The last code commit in the timeline was in late 2014. > > ___

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-07 Thread Gilles
Does it work? "What you'll find here is a work in progress to have a Tortoise-style tool for Fossil repositories. Currently there is no release just yet, there are no commands implemented as of right now, but file overlays are working great." http://www.tortoisefossil.org/index.cgi/index On

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-07 Thread sky5walk
Hmmm, that sounds like TortoiseFossil? I would deploy that if available. :) On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Gilles wrote: > On 07/08/2018 03:21, Ron W wrote: > > I never tried Sharp Fossil, but Fuel was a very clunky GUI. I think > non-programmers would be unwilling to put up with it. > > As a

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-06 Thread Gilles
On 07/08/2018 03:21, Ron W wrote: I never tried Sharp Fossil, but Fuel was a very clunky GUI. I think non-programmers would be unwilling to put up with it. As a simpler alternative, the "GUI" could just be implemented as an extension to Windows Explorer, where users would just right-click a

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-06 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 12:57 PM wrote: > Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 11:18:09 -0500 > From: Artur Shepilko > Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite? > Message-ID: > > How would you want to use such a GUI? > I mean practically what is a non-programmer user wor

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-06 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 8:07 AM wrote: > > Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 09:18:56 +0800 > From: Steve Landers > Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite? > > Put differently, what can’t you do with “fossil ui” that you can do with a > native client? > You can't d

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-06 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Gilles wrote: > > 1. SQLite is a DLL + EXE package A great many programs have need for an embedded DBMS. Very few programs have need for an embedded DVCS. Note also that these are empirical observations, rather than opinions. > 2. There's no maintained GUI for

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-06 Thread Artur Shepilko
How would you want to use such a GUI? I mean practically what is a non-programmer user workflow that involves a VCS interaction via GUI? The reason I ask, is that on several occasions I tried to convince "ordinary" users to incorporate a VCS into their daily tasks. Not just Fossil VCS, but Git

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-06 Thread Steve Landers
On 6 Aug 2018, 9:19 AM +0800, Steve Landers , wrote: > Put differently, what can’t you do with “fossil ui” that you can do with a > native client? > > Drag and drop is the only one I can think of and I suspect that’s a good > thing. And also push notifications. While it can be done with web

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-06 Thread Gilles
I guess that's another reason why there's no desktop UI for fossil. It's just that I prefer desktop apps to web apps generally, but I can live with CLI + UI if there's nothing else. This thread was not meant as criticism; It was just a question. On 06/08/2018 03:18, Steve Landers wrote: Put

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-05 Thread Steve Landers
Put differently, what can’t you do with “fossil ui” that you can do with a native client? Drag and drop is the only one I can think of and I suspect that’s a good thing. -- Steve On 6 Aug 2018, 9:17 AM +0800, Richard Hipp , wrote: > On 8/5/18, Gilles wrote: > > 2. There's no maintained GUI

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-05 Thread Richard Hipp
On 8/5/18, Gilles wrote: > 2. There's no maintained GUI for Fossil. I would argue that running "fossil ui" is your GUI. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-05 Thread Gilles
Thanks for the info, but like 90% of deskop users, I run Windows. I gave up on deskop Linux, even though I give it a try every year or so just to check it out. I'm not arguing. It's just that Fossil is such a great SCM application that I guess it would benefit even more users if it were

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-05 Thread John Pateman
Re Your point (2) There may not be a GUI for Windows (I don’t use Windows) but there is is a nice ‘Tortoise-like’ GUI for Fossil on macOS - Snail Fossil. > On 5 Aug 2018, at 21:14, Gilles wrote: > > On 05/08/2018 22:02, Richard Hipp wrote: >> How does adding an extra component and a bunch of

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-05 Thread Gilles
On 05/08/2018 22:02, Richard Hipp wrote: How does adding an extra component and a bunch of new interfaces make a program easier to build? I think that the key to building complex systems is to keep them as simple as possible. If you can omit a DLL/shared library and all the maintenance and

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-05 Thread Gilles
On 05/08/2018 21:28, Stephan Beal wrote: Very, very long story very, very short: reimplementing fossil as a library requires a massive effort. Too bad. Thanks for the info. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org

Re: [fossil-users] Why no EXE+DLL like SQLite?

2018-08-05 Thread Richard Hipp
On 8/5/18, Gilles wrote: > > I'm only a casual programmer, but I assume it would have made it easier > to build a GUI by calling functions within the DLL. How does adding an extra component and a bunch of new interfaces make a program easier to build? I think that the key to building complex