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Erik Moeller wrote:
> Certainly the process for getting a new project underway is so complex
> and exhausting that it's not something that many people will be likely
> to engage in
Another issue is that all our projects use the MediaWiki platform (and
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David Gerard wrote:
> Proposals I recall seeing for new projects either fit into a current
> project (e.g. Wikibooks - really, Wikipedia is a book, too)
Sorry, Wikibooks is for *textbooks* and Wikipedia is not a textbook. (We
also have a cookbook, wik
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Brion Vibber wrote:
> IMO we need to do that for the projects we already have before we take
> on new obligations!
>
> We still have very poor software support for:...
Thanks Brion, it is good to know that the tech team is aware of these
issues and w
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Hello,
I wanted to let folks know that WMF is decommissioning some 35 servers,
and is willing to accept requests from users interested in using them
for Wikimedia-related purposes. If you can ship a server from Tampa to
where you are, and if you can p
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wrote:
> on 9/21/09 7:00 PM, Philippe Beaudette at pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote:
>
>> Just to follow up - I just sent a test submit, and it acted correctly,
>> and sent me to application submission successful.
>>
>>
> Philippe,
>
> Did you receive
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> Issue 1: The official and public description of CheckUser lays out a
> transparent process for justifying when and how it may be used. In practice,
> it is often used in secret and quick "back door" process. First issue is
> the misrepresentation to
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Michael Snow wrote:
> We're just
> about to start our board meeting, but before we do, I have a quick
> update for you. We have appointed two new members to the advisory board.
>
> One of them is already quite familiar to all of us - Domas Mituzas. As
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As anemic as these rules are, I hope they send a message to our
problematic posters and impinge on their ability to ruin the mailing
list if they don't get it by now.
However, I have to say that I rather loved full moderation and was
hoping someone wo
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Could someone let me know why we need a bureaucratic process (I mean
"bureaucratic" without the connotative value) to approve new projects
when there has been exactly zero proposals since 2006 that actually
needed to be approved? (And in fact, there is
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Here are two:
*http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_video_tutorial-1-Editing-en.ogv
*http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_video_tutorial-2-Reliability-en.ogv
Plus a making-of video:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipe
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> Sorry to be blunt but, Why is this question so Wikipedia-centric? Other
> projects have proved ideal testing grounds for usability and such.
>
Because Wikipedia is the cash cow.
I was going to rant, but it became too depressing because it wouldn't
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> 2010/1/14 David Goodman :
>
>> As for the link, showing these in greatly enlarged versions, without
>> the context of the articles in which they are used, is setting up a
>> strong bias. We've never engage
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/5104
>
> Michael Geist on how excessive copyright and ACTA-like treaties will
> directly affect the process of sharing and education, i.e. what we do.
>
> - d.
Actuall
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Sue Gardner wrote:
> As CTO, Danese will be responsible for ensuring Wikipedia and the
> other Wikimedia projects run reliably and perform well from a
> technical standpoint. She will also be responsible for supporting the
> deve
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote:
> The thing we're working on right now is moving flaggedrevs.labs to
> different hardware.
OK, but hasn't it been *months*?! Isn't there a dedicated team for this
rollout?! What work are they actually doing
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote:
> I've reported when I thought I had something to report
I think the problem here is that you haven't reported any
accomplishments because there haven't been any.
Perhaps you're actually saying that the wo
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Alex wrote:
> Why
> this wasn't done before it was deployed on dewiki or anywhere else, I
> don't know
Because only enwiki matters?
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This is great news! I'm thrilled that this important work can become a
permanent priority for the Foundation. The usability work has already
been a success, and continuing that work will be a major asset towards
achieving Wikimedia's goals. I'm also pa
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Peter Gervai wrote:
> Are you aware of the fact that it's been used in non-English
> wikipedias for years? And it's been quite a successful feature.
>
> YMMV.
> grin
>
>
Are you aware it's been used on enwikibooks too? And ha
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> What about c) people not editing (or not continuing to edit) because
> they don't like their edits not going live immediately? Any data on
> that?
I think this is one of the two main reasons flagged revs h
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote:
> we think there are some interface changes are
> going to improve both the user experience and the value of the enwiki
> trial.
Why did it take this request from enwiki to have the UX aspect of
flagged rev
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Anthony wrote:
> August 2009: 1030
> September 2009: 791
> October 2009: 326
> November 2009: 513
> December 2009: 234
> January 2010: 207
> February 2010: 213
> March 2010: ???
>
Does anyone know what the numbers are? Or perha
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, John Doe wrote:
> I agree top posting tends to be the most effective method for handling
> mailing lists
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Gerard Meijssen
> wrote:
>> The easiest way to deal with such issues is use a decent m
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> Aradhana Ravindra will support the Bookshelf project as a contractor
Glad to see that the bookshelf project is getting additional staffing -
however didn't some staff leave the project as well?
- -Mike
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Sue Gardner wrote:
> As I'm sending this, I'm wondering: have we actually started an
> announce-only list?
+1 for that! I think Cary typically handles creating mailing lists.
> I'm delighted to tell you that Philippe Beaudette
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> It seems like a lot of bullshit and spin to me, but perhaps there are
> nuggets of valuable information buried somewhere in there.
You forget that his job title is "Head of Communications" -- not that we
don't love him to pieces, but spin is his jo
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:
>> This isn't an ideal situation. We should have a situation in which
>> Jimmy's technical power derives from the authority of the board of
>> trustees or from a community mandate, or we should have a situatio
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
> To the contrary, I have been very active in discussions both on the
> wiki, in email, and in irc. Pretending that I'm not a reasonable person
> open to discussion and debate is not going to be very persuasiv
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
> We were about to be smeared in all media as hosting hardcore pornography
> and doing nothing about it. Now, the correct storyline is that we are
> cleaning up. I'm proud to have made sure that storyline bro
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Mike Godwin wrote:
> I disagree with the suggestion that it would have been better for Fox to
> have gone with the original story they were trying to create rather than
> with the story Jimmy in effect created for them.
I assume
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> And when people pointed out your errors, rather than say "I'm sorry"
> and restore the images, you re-deleted and continued your rampage.
That sounds eerily reminiscent of what Mike Godwin said about Fox news:
"when their mistakes are brought to th
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
> In the interest of encouraging this discussion to be about real
> philosophical/content issues, rather than be about me and how quickly I
> acted, I've just now removed virtually all permissions to actually d
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:
> Lost in the recent email flood: pediapress is fully working for
> English.
>
> http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/06/wikipedia-and-pediapress-now-allow-you-to-create-books-from-content-in-english/
>
> Does anyo
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
> My purpose here is for us to stop chattering about this aspect of
> things - which I don't care about. People seem to want to fight me
> on it, perhaps expecting me to dig in my heels. Everyone loves a
>
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote:
> I was rummaging for story about Samuel Johnson and people hunting for
> naughty words in his dictionary, when I came across a Google Books
> reproduction of an 1896 periodical titled "The Homiletic Review"
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Austin Hair wrote:
>> I am less confident about unbalanced. The old logo could also be said
>> to be visually unbalanced and perhaps we're just used to it?
>
> I'm sure that's part of it—the old one really does look a bit crowd
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, George Herbert wrote:
> The appropriate response to this might be a Quebec Wikisource project
> (or, pick another French-speaking location, with a very non-French
> copyright policy which is more friendly to us in this circumstan
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Sue Gardner wrote:
> I am really happy to announce two important new Wikimedia Foundation
> hires. Zack Exley will be Wikimedia's new Chief Community Officer,
> and Barry Newstead will be our Chief Global Development Officer.
C
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote:
> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/wikipedia_to_loosen_controls_tonight.php
Wow, they used the right title! :D
So did the BBC article[1]: "Wikipedia unlocks divisive pages for editing"
- -Mike
[1] ht
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> Yes, it's communism that works in theory but not in practice. :-)
But isn't Wikipedia Communism?
It must be true, I saw it written so on Wikipedia! :D
- -Mike
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, oliver keyes wrote:
> Sue is the Executive Director of the fastest growing non-profit
> foundation in the United States, a foundation which has just
> announced a doubling of its staff, trial direct expansion to two more
> nation
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> If you go against the mission statement, and the expectation with it
> that more information is better than less information - even if the
> information is horrible and shocking - the community will not acce
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On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, James Alexander wrote:
> That being said I'm not totally sure that basic info like edit counts should
> be disallowed since most of them are given by the software itself (and still
> is) not to mention the toolserver. Perhaps mor
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This refers to the toolserver, not the Wikimedia Foundation
servers. This was explained on toolserver-l:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2009-January/00
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listen, participate, whatever!
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So far as I know, this is solved by givine each centralnotice a
different id (which is how they're identified to be hidden - or at least
that was the case in the past). Should be easy to do.
-Mike
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 09:56 -0700, Robert Rohde wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Erik Moel
ke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 10:49 -0700, Robert Rohde wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Mike.lifeguard
> wrote:
> > So far as I know, this is solved by givine each centralnotice a
> > different id (which is how they're identified to be hidden - or at least
> > th
Welcome, Jennifer!
Congratulations to the hiring committee as well for carrying out a
successful hiring process. While the Foundation is expanding, I think
this and other recent hirings show there's no loss of focus on the power
behind the projects, which is the massive base of volunteer
contribut
I would love to see these adopted for Commons photographers. The issue
will become knowing when these principles are being violated. For
example, if you're going to alter audio to serve your own POV, you're
not going to make it obvious you've done so. Detection is one problem,
but even if you've de
Actually, I cannot think of a single example where the CentralNotice and
only the CentralNotice was used to alert people of anything. The closest
I can come is emergency notices like
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice&diff=17689706&oldid=17511569
I'm not particular
Obviously not; here we are discussing it. One wonders if we actually did
learn any lessons during the Enlightenment...
-Mike
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 10:04 -0400, The Cunctator wrote:
> I can't believe Fred is litigating this again. He's been around long enough
> to know that censorship is a dead i
Actually, I would argue that we shouldn't censor for principled reasons.
Supposing it were the case that we could safely censor only sexual
content with no slippery slope, we still shouldn't do so because it is
wrong regardless what the practical consequences may or may not be. That
said, a more ut
While this may be true for Wikipedia (English Wikipedia?), it is
certainly not true of Wikimedia project generally. For example,
Wikibooks has a subproject Wikijunior which is an attempt to create
high-quality children's books. Part of the defined scope here is that
the books are appropriate for ch
I have been keeping an eye on what content got imported on English
Wikibooks. If there has been anything imported from offsite GFDL-only
sources I'm not aware of it. To be honest though, that's not saying much
- we often have contributors bring us whole books they wrote elsewhere -
but that's not a
Wikibooks uses GFDL. We do have some revisions which may be
multi-licensed, but it's probably not safe to assume that any books are
entirely multi-licensed (though some do make that claim).
-Mike
On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 02:12 +0100, David Gerard wrote:
> 2009/5/23 Mike.lifeguard :
>
The Ombudsman Commission would likely be that group. Although their
focus has traditionally been CheckUser, their purview actually covers
any and all violations of the privacy policy. Here is one such case. At
this moment, I agree: this sysop shouldn't be.
-Mike
On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 06:21 -0500,
Actually, what Commons does is store media files. Whether it does that
for other projects or not is the open question we're considering at
present. You shouldn't define your premises to meet your conclusions if
you want to participate in a constructive dialogue.
Thanks,
-Mike
On Tue, 2009-06-16
Yes, that's a very good idea. That's the main reason I got involved
there, and the main reason I continue to be. The fact of the matter is
that if you want Commons to provide service to your project, the best
people to do that is... people from that project. Commons isn't a closed
community - you'r
Purely out of ignorance, why do we like ogg, but not H264? Or is it not
that we don't /like/ it, but rather we simply don't support it as a
format for whatever reason?
Thanks,
-Mike
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> wrote:
>
> > Purely out of ignorance, why do we like ogg, but not H264? Or is it not
> > that we don't /like/ it, but rather we simply don't support it as a
> > format for whatever reason?
> >
> > Thanks,
> &g
On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 21:54 -0700, Michael Snow wrote:
> One example is interest groups
> that aren't tied to geography, the way the chapters are. I always cite
> the idea of an Association of Blind Wikipedians, who might wish to
> organize to promote work on accessibility issues.
Actually, t
This is totally off-topic and also a low blow. Please join #ubuntu on
irc.freenode.net and ask about FF3.5 (or search google; no shortage of
information) - I think you'll find the answers more satisfying than this
email misleadingly suggests.
-Mike
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 17:53 +0200, Gerard Meijss
NPG claims that Dcoetzee would be liable for the infringement resultant
from him posting the photos on Commons. So, the reuse is a copyvio and
reuse of that is a copyvio and reuse of that... So it's not clear that
even removing the images would do anything to protect him.
Furthermore (and in a biz
Good eyes, Sj. I have to agree - opening a new wiki for every single
project is a terrible idea, as we've learned from quality.wikimedia.org.
Please try to use Meta for this purpose.
-Mike
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 02:19 -0400, Samuel Klein wrote:
> A related question - I see there was a request to
Is it time to close the advisory board wiki like we just closed
quality.wikimedia.org? Considering the state you describe, I rather
think so (even qualitywiki wasn't so bad). Content could be moved to
foundationwiki or Meta (or both) depending on what it is.
-Mike
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 17:08 +100
Thanks for this reminder. I've been putting together a submission myself
and I'd urge others to do the same. If you're not sure where to begin,
michaelgeist.ca has some excellent discussion of where Canadian
copyright law should be headed.
In addition to individual submissions, what are the chance
I'm sorry, this is really not something that needs discussion on
foundation-l. This concerns English Wikipedia, and not the wider
Wikimedia community or the Foundation itself. Please consider moving
this discussion back to the project-specific mailing list or the project
itself so to the community
Sue, thanks so much for compiling and sharing these reports, it is
always great to see how much the Foundation is doing as time progresses.
I notice that in each report there has been a list of media with which
the Foundation has had contact - is that generally interviews requested
by the media, o
No, really, you need to discuss this on wikien-l instead of here. This
has been explained to you by multiple people on multiple occasions. I'd
suggest someone enforce that if need be.
Thanks,
-Mike
On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 12:24 -0700, stevertigo wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Chad wrot
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> Another possible explanation for what's happening at the WMF HQ is
> that the whole operation is preparing to move to new digs, and rather
> than break their lease, they're seeking to find a subtenant to avoid
> some financial penalty for early exit.
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Hello,
Now that registration is open for Wikimania 2011, I wonder why the
videos from Wikimania 2010 are not uploaded somewhere yet.
Could the 2010 organizers please comment on this state of affairs?
- -Mike
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to help me!
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> Hoi,
> Good idea Mark... " "a croaking dalek with laryngitis"
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochlear_implant#Efficacy
>
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