RE: SOLVED! Was RE: Changing conditional text settings crashes Frame

2014-01-15 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Anita, Thank you very much for this description. I also encounter this crash now and then. Next time I will test your solution. You say that FrameMaker did not know how to interpret an end of flow symbol in a hidden cell. However, if I do not apply any condition to text in table rows which

Re: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Simon BUCH
I've taken a quick look at this new release. a. There's still no right-to-left language support. b. There's still the requirement for activation via internet, and the help pages reference material on web pages. This makes the product impractical for customers on military/corporate grade

RE: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Umm, activation via Internet can be circumvented by calling Adobe and getting an activation from them. I'm pretty sure you can access the same help material as PDF or AIRHelp on your local firewalled install (same as it's been for a while now). From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

Re: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Lin Sims
Thanks for the links, Winfried. Does anyone know if FM12 (and also FM11) come in 32-bit AND 64-bit versions, or are they both strictly 32 bits? I've only been able to find that FM9 was 32-bit only. Thanks, Lin On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wr...@tycoint.comwrote: Hi,

Re: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Scott Prentice
Just 32-bit I believe. I haven't seen separate installer options and when it installs it end up in the Program Files (x86) folder. ...scott On 1/15/14 9:56 AM, Lin Sims wrote: Thanks for the links, Winfried. Does anyone know if FM12 (and also FM11) come in 32-bit AND 64-bit versions, or

RE: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Rick Quatro
32-bit only. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 12:56 PM To: Reng, Dr. Winfried Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FrameMaker 12 released Thanks for the links, Winfried.

RE: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Thanks for the links. Some links on the FAQ page for FM 12 are broken ... notably one that takes you to the subscription pricing (including a promotional pricing discount). Also, sorry to beat on this drum still, but the upgrade price of $399 from FrameMaker 11 is still too high to be

RE: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Calling every 30 days for the subscription model version would get old pretty quick, though! :) Z From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 6:06 AM To: 'Framers' Subject: RE:

Re: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Scott Prentice
Although the subscription is labeled monthly, it's really a yearly subscription. As far as I know you have to pay for an entire year .. that's just the monthly cost if you break it down that way. ...scott On 1/15/14 10:33 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: Calling every 30

RE: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Pretty sure that the military-industrial complex doesn't deal with month-by-month subscriptions ;) From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) [mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net] Sent: January-15-14 1:34 PM To: Jeff Coatsworth; 'Framers' Subject: RE: FrameMaker 12 released Calling every 30 days

RE: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Simon Buch wrote: ? c. In Kapil VERMA's blog entry, there's a section about Licensing options: 'Furthermore, we are providing both perpetual and subscription licensing options on all our products. We do realize that the licensing needs of our customers vary and hence, we are offering both

RE: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Correct. The cost is charged monthly - with an annual commitment. After 30 days, if you cancel, you will be billed 50% of the remaining contract obligation. What I meant was that the software checks activation every 30 days ... presumably, without Internet access, you would have to call every

RE: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Yeah! :) No internet access allowed for them, so they would have to get the perpetual licenses ... Z From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:51 AM To: 'Framers' Subject: RE:

RE: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Ah! Apparently, activation over the phone may no longer be an option for FM 12 - you have to have an Internet connection. Else you get to return your product purchase, I suppose. This is from the FM 12 FAQ: I didn't know I needed to have an Internet connection when I purchased FrameMaker 12.

FrameMaker and SharePoint (user request)

2014-01-15 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
Hi all: Quick question. Is anyone on the list using FrameMaker with a SharePoint implementation and having success with it? I've got a client that is considering this combination and I wanted to see what your thoughts are. It would be structured (DITA) with FrameMaker 12 and SharePoint. Ideally

FW: Changing conditional text settings crashes Frame

2014-01-15 Thread Zimmerman, Gary
Hi Anita, I lurk-and-skim the FM list. Run into this a LOT. What it means - I think - is that you have something conditionalized funny. For example, there is an errant paragraph mark/pilcrow that's hidden normally but conditionalized. When you turn on or off the conditions in this case,

Re: Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9

2014-01-15 Thread Heiko Haida
Hi Karen, you might also try the FM 11-mif format. FM 9 seems to open these files, and probably thus the font information will be correct. (In any case, FM 9 should be patched to its last version, as the support for the FM 7.2 not Unicode characters was added very late.) Why this once

Re: Changing conditional text settings crashes Frame

2014-01-15 Thread rebecca officer
Hi Anita We also had crashes when changing CT show/hide settings in FM10. I reported it very thoroughly to Adobe and they confirmed there was a bug. As far as I can tell, it's fixed in FM11. Two workarounds: - we didn't see the crash if we saved the file immediately before changing the CT

FM12 is here!

2014-01-15 Thread Kapil Verma
Hello Framers, First of all, wish you all a happy new year 2014! For those of you who don't know me, I am a Sr. Product Manager at Adobe and am responsible for Adobe's Technical Communication product line. Today, I have some exciting news for you! It is my pleasure to announce the

RE: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Keith Soltys
From a scan of their product pages and the few reviews out now, this looks like a compelling upgrade. I passed on FM 11 because most of the new features seemed oriented to structured authoring. This release has the number one item on my list of requested feature enhancements - regular

TCS5 doesn't have Illustrator

2014-01-15 Thread rebecca officer
Hi everyone The new FM12 features sound great but I must admit I'm horrified to hear that TCS5 doesn't have Illustrator. My team's got the subscription version of TCS4. Does anyone know if we can separately upgrade FM, or do we have to upgrade the whole suite to TCS5? I assume if we upgrade

what do you need to install the FM8 upgrade version?

2014-01-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
Can you install FM8 if you have a FM6 CD / key or do you need FM7? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to

ANN: FrameMaker 12 Product Launch Webinar Jan 28

2014-01-15 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
Adobe launched its most significant upgrade to FrameMaker in 12 years this week. Join our product launch webinar on What's New in FrameMaker 12? What is FrameMaker XML Author 12? at 8:00 AM Pacific on Tues January 28th. You may register at: http://adobe.ly/1cqZL3D FrameMaker 12: publish to 5

RE: FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
Dr. Reng, Thank you for bringing our product launch to the group's attention. Both the product manager, Kapil Verma, and I have submitted product announcements and webinar details to the list, but it appears that they aren't visible yet. (I am awaiting my confirmation email.) For those who

FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi, FrameMaker 12 is released now. There are many links with information. See below. Best regards Winfried --- http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2014/01/framemaker-12-launch-blog.html http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2014/01/technical-communication-suite-5-is-here.html

SOLVED! Was RE: Changing conditional text settings crashes Frame

2014-01-15 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
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2014-01-15 Thread Simon BUCH
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FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
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2014-01-15 Thread Lin Sims
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FrameMaker 12 released

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2014-01-15 Thread Rick Quatro
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FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Thanks for the links. Some links on the FAQ page for FM 12 are broken ... notably one that takes you to the subscription pricing (including a "promotional" pricing discount). Also, sorry to beat on this drum still, but the upgrade price of $399 from FrameMaker 11 is still too high to be

FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
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2014-01-15 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
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2014-01-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
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2014-01-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
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2014-01-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
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2014-01-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
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FrameMaker and SharePoint (user request)

2014-01-15 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
Hi all: Quick question. Is anyone on the list using FrameMaker with a SharePoint implementation and having success with it? I've got a client that is considering this combination and I wanted to see what your thoughts are. It would be structured (DITA) with FrameMaker 12 and SharePoint. Ideally

FrameMaker 12 released

2014-01-15 Thread Keith Soltys

what do you need to install the FM8 upgrade version?

2014-01-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
Can you install FM8 if you have a FM6 CD / key or do you need FM7?