importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread John Sgammato
Our Marketing group wants us to use new templates that have room for a sidebar. We won't actually use the sidebar for anything, and it's OK for titles, images, and tables to extend into the sidebar. We may put notes over there. We have been able to do this with the Room for Sideheads feature, and

anchored text frames in sideheads

2014-08-12 Thread John Sgammato
I just posted a question about importing formats from a sidehead-enabled template. Here's a related question: Assuming we can make the sidehead template work, we'd like to be able to put some content over there, while keeping it in Text Flow A. That works fine for a single paragraph - the

Re: anchored text frames in sideheads

2014-08-12 Thread Sharon Burton
Try using a table and putting the text in the table. It's the only way I've ever found to make that all work. That may screw up publishing to the KB, tho. Sent from my iPhone 951-202-0813 I am available when online thru Skype at Sharon.v.burton. On Aug 12, 2014, at 6:43 AM, John Sgammato

Re: anchored text frames in sideheads

2014-08-12 Thread Art Campbell
Did you try inserting a table under the sidehead, with the table entirely in the sidehead area? Or maybe use a spin on the two-cell warning-icon-in-the-sidehead, and have a two column table with the left column matching the width of the sidehead and the right the text column. Could probably do

Re: anchored text frames in sideheads

2014-08-12 Thread Ed Nodland
John I sent you a sample PDF, directly, of sidebars produced from an 800 page XML file and opened into Structured Framemaker. Are you using FM structured or unstructured? Yes, you can only have one sidebar paragraph per textflow paragraph or it opens up whitespace in the text flow, but you can

Re: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread Kurt Kroeber
To elaborate John's point on the importing of formats from one file to another, the problem seems to stems from the fact that when the template is applied to another document almost all of the formats are applied except for one -- the Room for Side Heads object property is disabled for the text

Re: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread Sharon Burton
Long standing bug. I recall this in frame 4. Sent from my iPhone 951-202-0813 I am available when online thru Skype at Sharon.v.burton. On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:23 AM, Kurt Kroeber kurt.kroe...@actifio.com wrote: To elaborate John's point on the importing of formats from one file to

Re: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread Kurt Kroeber
Thanks Ed for the clarification and pointer to this behaviour in Frame. And thanks to everyone for the quick response. Regards, Kurt On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Ed Nodland enodl...@gmail.com wrote: 1) I opened my FM file with Room for Side Heads select, 2) I removed the sideheads

Re: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread Ed Nodland
1) I opened my FM file with Room for Side Heads select, 2) I removed the sideheads option 3) The sidebar was gone 4) I imported my template (sidebar did not return) 5) Applied masterpages (sidebar did not return) 6) Manually selected Room for Side Heads (sidebar returned) Maybe

Getting a handle on structured Frame

2014-08-12 Thread Theresa de Valence
I started my Frame 12 experience with a new convert to ebook/pdf project. I created an unstructured book because I quasi-know-what-I’m-doing in the unstructured world. However, I think to publish this book as an ebook, it has to be structured. I have had a long running affair with trying to

RE: Getting a handle on structured Frame

2014-08-12 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Sorry you fell down the rabbit-hole, but I'm pretty sure that you don't need to be running structured FM to create an ePUB. See http://www.mattrsullivan.com/ebooks-with-fm-rh/ -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]

Re: Getting a handle on structured Frame

2014-08-12 Thread Alan Houser
This is one of the more common and frustrating mis-conceptions I see in the FrameMaker community that publishing to ePub and other newer output formats requires structured FrameMaker. In fact, even when working with structured source files, FrameMaker's style mappings are based on

Re: Getting a handle on structured Frame

2014-08-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
Hi Theresa As others have said, it doesn't have to be structured to become an eBook. As an aside, be aware that ePub processes can make a mess of your formatting, whether you are using structure or not: imho they are a work in progress. I know this for a fact, having seen the mess that the

Re: Getting a handle on structured Frame

2014-08-12 Thread Bruce Wolf
This is what I've tried with our unstructured documents and had good success with EPub output.   We are so busy, I've only dabbled.   So, I'd say this is very good advice from Alan. Bruce On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:37 PM, Alan Houser a...@groupwellesley.com wrote: This is one of the

Re: Getting a handle on structured Frame

2014-08-12 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 8/12/2014 12:31 PM, Jeff Coatsworth wrote: Sorry you fell down the rabbit-hole, but I'm pretty sure that you don't need to be running structured FM to create an ePUB. Using the unstructured book file, the epub comes out with the chapters in the wrong order. See

Re: Getting a handle on structured Frame

2014-08-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
BTW... At 11:08 -0500 12/8/14, Theresa de Valence wrote: I now have ~50 files which are components of my unstructured book file. How would you recommend that I take the contents of those 50 files and move them into the structured book? It doesn't work quite like that: you can't just move from

RE: framers Digest, Vol 106, Issue 10

2014-08-12 Thread Diana Bishop
In response to Message: 10 (below): We moved to structured FrameMaker/DITA last year and it was a long process. On the other side of it now, it is much clearer and easier to convert our other guides. We got help from a consultant, Matt Sullivan, who is active on the Adobe message boards, as

Re: Getting a handle on structured Frame

2014-08-12 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 8/12/2014 12:57 PM, Steve Rickaby wrote: Let me know if you'd like a copy of my beginner's guide. At the very least it will give you an idea of the complexity of structure and whether it's worthwhile for you. Steve, you can't imagine how many times I have read through those articles!

RE: Getting a handle on structured Frame

2014-08-12 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Nope - all the guts of FM's direct publishing come straight from the FM to RH integration in TCS. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Theresa de Valence Sent: August-12-14 2:02 PM To:

Re: Getting a handle on structured Frame

2014-08-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:28 -0500 12/8/14, Theresa de Valence wrote: On 8/12/2014 12:57 PM, Steve Rickaby wrote: Let me know if you'd like a copy of my beginner's guide. At the very least it will give you an idea of the complexity of structure and whether it's worthwhile for you. Steve, you can't imagine how many

Re: Getting a handle on structured Frame

2014-08-12 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 8/12/2014 11:08 AM, Theresa de Valence wrote: Frame 12 installed 13 versions of structapps.fm on my system, either dated 12/5/2013 or the date I installed the program. There are 6 files which are 282KB. How do I choose which file to open? Please answer? The structapps.fm file which I did

Re: Getting a handle on structured Frame

2014-08-12 Thread Scott Prentice
On 8/12/14 1:00 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote: On 8/12/2014 11:08 AM, Theresa de Valence wrote: Frame 12 installed 13 versions of structapps.fm on my system, either dated 12/5/2013 or the date I installed the program. There are 6 files which are 282KB. How do I choose which file to open?