Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-17 Thread Doug Cuff
This is fairly bizarre. I've been having no problems at all with smart quotes on FM8 p277. I spent a moment or two wondering what Mr Griffith was talking about (but confident he did know ;-). My maker.ini looks like this: ; Smart Quote Characters ; SmartQuotes \xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 ) English

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-17 Thread Dave Reynolds
Hi Frame 8.0p277 on Win XP SP2. Smart Quotes turned on. Font in test doc is Bembo. Language = UK English. Windows regional settings = English New Zealand. I've just tested the single and double curly quotes in a Frame document and they all work fine for me. The Smart Quotes section in my

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-17 Thread Doug Cuff
This is fairly bizarre. I've been having no problems at all with smart quotes on FM8 p277. I spent a moment or two wondering what Mr Griffith was talking about (but confident he did know ;-). My maker.ini looks like this: ; Smart Quote Characters ; SmartQuotes \xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 ) English

Re: Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Jeremy Are you sure the Smart Quotes feature is dead in FM8? It's still seems to work fine in my version. I'm using FM 8.0p277 in Windows XP and I get nice smart single and double quotes. Cheers -- Yves Barbion • Managing Director • Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu

Re: Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:22:29 +0200, Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure the Smart Quotes feature is dead in FM8? It's still seems to work fine in my version. I'm using FM 8.0p277 in Windows XP and I get nice smart single and double quotes. It's never worked for me, and seeing

Re: Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:37:02 -0700, Jeremy H. Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to send me a Frame file with an example of some you put in that way, I'll see if there's a difference viewing it here. Dr. Winifred Reng sent me one, and provided the clue that nailed the problem; thank

Re: Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Yves Barbion
Interesting. I'm a European user and the Smart Quotes section in my maker.ini looks like this: ; Smart Quote Characters ; SmartQuotes \xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 ) English curved quotes ; SmartQuotes \xe2\xd4\xe3\xd2 ) German-style quotes with base quotes ; SmartQuotes \xd5\xd5\xc7\xc8 ) French-style

RE: Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Syed.Hosain
For those of us using English, then, the fix is: SmartQuotes='' Get rid of this mistake!! SmartQuotes=\xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 That tells Frame to use its *internally-coded* characters, and those it knows how to map to the real Unicode characters, because in the MIF we get UTF-8 that is correct

RE: Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Dosick, Daniel (GE EntSol, Security)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Odd keyboard behavior To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Dosick, Daniel \(GE EntSol, Security\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:27:05 -0400, Dosick, Daniel (GE EntSol, Security) [EMAIL

Re: Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Dave Reynolds
Hi Frame 8.0p277 on Win XP SP2. Smart Quotes turned on. Font in test doc is Bembo. Language = UK English. Windows regional settings = English New Zealand. I've just tested the single and double curly quotes in a Frame document and they all work fine for me. The Smart Quotes section in my

Re: Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:56:28 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of us using English, then, the fix is: SmartQuotes='' Get rid of this mistake!! SmartQuotes=\xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 That tells Frame to use its *internally-coded* characters, and those it knows how to map to the real

RE: Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Syed.Hosain
-Original Message- From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 3:27 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Syed Zaeem Hosain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: Re: Odd keyboard behavior On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:56:28 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Jeremy Are you sure the Smart Quotes feature is dead in FM8? It's still seems to work fine in my version. I'm using FM 8.0p277 in Windows XP and I get nice smart single and double quotes. Cheers -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:22:29 +0200, "Yves Barbion" wrote: >Are you sure the Smart Quotes feature is dead in FM8? It's still seems to >work fine in my version. I'm using FM 8.0p277 in Windows XP and I get nice >smart single and double quotes. It's never worked for me, and seeing what Frame puts

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:37:02 -0700, "Jeremy H. Griffith" wrote: >If you >want to send me a Frame file with an example of some you put in >that way, I'll see if there's a difference viewing it here. Dr. Winifred Reng sent me one, and provided the clue that nailed the problem; thank you! It

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Yves Barbion
Interesting. I'm a European user and the Smart Quotes section in my maker.ini looks like this: ; Smart Quote Characters ; SmartQuotes \xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 ) English curved quotes ; SmartQuotes \xe2\xd4\xe3\xd2 ) German-style quotes with base quotes ; SmartQuotes \xd5\xd5\xc7\xc8 ) French-style

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> For those of us using English, then, the fix is: > > SmartQuotes=''"" Get rid of this mistake!! > SmartQuotes=\xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 > > That tells Frame to use its *internally-coded* characters, > and those it knows how to map to the real Unicode characters, > because in the MIF we get UTF-8 that

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Dosick, Daniel (GE EntSol, Security)
ffith" <jer...@omsys.com> Subject: Re: Odd keyboard behavior To: Cc: "Dosick, Daniel \(GE EntSol, Security\)" Message-ID: <7nbdf494a904s9ekvcgljd7c9cm9ic9v6p at 4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:27:05 -0400, "Dosick, Daniel

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:56:28 -0600, wrote: >> For those of us using English, then, the fix is: >> >> SmartQuotes=''"" Get rid of this mistake!! >> SmartQuotes=\xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 >> >> That tells Frame to use its *internally-coded* characters, >> and those it knows how to map to the real Unicode

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-16 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> -Original Message- > From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jeremy at omsys.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 3:27 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Cc: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) > Subject: Re: Odd keyboard behavior > > On Thu, 16

Re: Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-15 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:27:05 -0400, Dosick, Daniel (GE EntSol, Security) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FM8 (patch 277), WinXP pro This one's pretty bizarre: As of a couple of days ago (I think), when I type a single or double quotation mark (' or ) in Frame 8, a question mark appears rather than

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-15 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:27:05 -0400, "Dosick, Daniel (GE EntSol, Security)" wrote: >FM8 (patch 277), WinXP pro > >This one's pretty bizarre: > >As of a couple of days ago (I think), when I type a single or double >quotation mark (' or ") in Frame 8, a question mark appears rather than >the

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-14 Thread Dosick, Daniel (GE EntSol, Security)
FM8 (patch 277), WinXP pro This one's pretty bizarre: As of a couple of days ago (I think), when I type a single or double quotation mark (' or ) in Frame 8, a question mark appears rather than the quotation mark character. Changing the font has no effect. All the other keys do just what

Odd keyboard behavior

2008-10-14 Thread Dosick, Daniel (GE EntSol, Security)
FM8 (patch 277), WinXP pro This one's pretty bizarre: As of a couple of days ago (I think), when I type a single or double quotation mark (' or ") in Frame 8, a question mark appears rather than the quotation mark character. Changing the font has no effect. All the other keys do just what