Re: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Flare can replace both FrameMaker and RoboHelp, the core of TCS. I don't like having each topic in a separate file, lack of true WYSIWYG for PDF, or the inability to export change markup to PDF, but it's a highly competitive alternative, especially with RoboHelp. I don't think either has kept up

RE: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later? Flare can replace both FrameMaker and RoboHelp, the core of TCS. I don't like having each topic in a separate file, lack of true WYSIWYG for PDF, or the inability to export change markup

RE: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Robert Lauriston said: In recent years more and more of my content is coming out of wikis. We have decided the same - all of our _new_ documentation, user guides, manuals, etc., is being created on Confluence now rather than FrameMaker. And all my older documents that need updates will be

Re: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

A manual export step from Confluence to FrameMaker would not be a useful workflow. I need to edit wiki content in place. Since FM already has XML editing capabilities and source control / CMS integration, it doesn't seem to me like it would be a big challenge for Adobe to add that. Same goes for

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Robert Lauriston said: > In recent years more and more of my content is coming out of wikis. We have decided the same - all of our _new_ documentation, user guides, manuals, etc., is being created on Confluence now rather than FrameMaker. And all my older documents that need updates will be

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

A manual export step from Confluence to FrameMaker would not be a useful workflow. I need to edit wiki content in place. Since FM already has XML editing capabilities and source control / CMS integration, it doesn't seem to me like it would be a big challenge for Adobe to add that. Same goes for

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Subject: Re: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later? Flare can replace both FrameMaker and RoboHelp, the core of TCS. I don't like having each topic in a separate file, lack of true WYSIWYG for PDF, or the inability to export change

Re: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

I'm not sure if I agree with you about Adobe not having a captive audience with FrameMaker. As far as an editor that is relatively easy to use and that has nice single-sourcing features (conditional text and sharing files between books), I don't know of anything that is comparable to

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

From: rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later? Hi everyone I'm thinking about moving to the TCS subscription model (please don't all flame

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Quark XPress is also an alternative, was around 1-12 years before Adobe created InDesign. It's quite good. Tori Muir tmuir at spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674 www.spot-on-creative.com On 7/31/13 1:40 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > Robert Lauriston wrote: >>

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

I'm not sure if I agree with you about Adobe not having a captive audience with FrameMaker. As far as an editor that is relatively easy to use and that has nice single-sourcing features (conditional text and sharing files between books), I don't know of anything that is comparable to

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Flare can replace both FrameMaker and RoboHelp, the core of TCS. I don't like having each topic in a separate file, lack of true WYSIWYG for PDF, or the inability to export change markup to PDF, but it's a highly competitive alternative, especially with RoboHelp. I don't think either has kept up

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Hi everyone I'm thinking about moving to the TCS subscription model (please don't all flame me at once). Does anyone know what'd happen if I wanted to change back to outright ownership in a couple of years? E.g. If I stayed on the subscription model until TCS6 was released, would I then be

Re: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

I think the only way to get a definitive answer is to ask Adobe. I suspect that by the time we get to TCS6 the only way will be with a subscription model. As long as the annual fee is not more than we're used to paying for our regular upgrades (depending on how often you upgrade of course)

Re: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Switching back to an owned version won't be an issue: in a couple of years TCS will be subscription-only. That's the path Adobe took with Creative Suite-- first year or two subscription was an option, soon it will be mandatory. They get more $ by forcing all users to

RE: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

@lists.frameusers.com Subject: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you goback to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later? Hi everyone I'm thinking about moving to the TCS subscription model (please don't all flame me at once). Does anyone know what'd happen if I wanted

RE: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

? They get more $ by forcing all users to upgrade with each new release whether they want to or not, so barring the CS subscription-only model causing mass migration to other products (sadly, not likely), TCS will go the same path. I suspect that you are correct that mass migration to other

RE: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

: rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you goback to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later? Hi everyone I'm thinking about moving to the TCS subscription model (please don't all flame me at once

Re: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Adobe has something of a captive market with InDesign. The same isn't true for FrameMaker and RoboHelp. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Ø They get more $ by forcing all users to upgrade with each new release whether they

RE: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Robert Lauriston wrote: Adobe has something of a captive market with InDesign. The same isn't true for FrameMaker and RoboHelp. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Ø They get more $ by forcing all users to upgrade with

Re: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Quark XPress is also an alternative, was around 1-12 years before Adobe created InDesign. It's quite good. Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674 www.spot-on-creative.com On 7/31/13 1:40 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: Robert Lauriston wrote: Adobe has

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

I think the only way to get a definitive answer is to ask Adobe. I suspect that by the time we get to TCS6 the only way will be with a subscription model. As long as the annual fee is not more than we're used to paying for our regular upgrades (depending on how often you upgrade of course)

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

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at lists.frameusers.com Subject: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you goback to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later? Hi everyone I'm thinking about moving to the TCS subscription model (please don't all flame me at once). Does anyone know what'd happen if I wanted

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

? They get more $ by forcing all users to upgrade with each new release whether they want to or not, so barring the CS subscription-only model causing mass migration to other products (sadly, not likely), TCS will go the same path. I suspect that you are correct that mass migration to other

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Adobe has something of a captive market with InDesign. The same isn't true for FrameMaker and RoboHelp. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > ? They get more $ by forcing all users to upgrade with each new release > whether they want to or not,

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Robert Lauriston wrote: > Adobe has something of a captive market with InDesign. The same isn't true > for FrameMaker and RoboHelp. > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain > (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > > ? They get more $ by forcing all users to upgrade with each new > >

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

Hi everyone I'm thinking about moving to the TCS subscription model (please don't all flame me at once). Does anyone know what'd happen if I wanted to change back to outright ownership in a couple of years? E.g. If I stayed on the subscription model until TCS6 was released, would I then be