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2008-02-13 Thread Paul Findon
On 13 Feb 2008, at 13:15, Milan Davidovic wrote: > On 2/4/08, Mike Wickham wrote: >> If you're on the Windows platform, and creating documents for >> press, EPS is >> really the only way to go for color graphics. With every other >> graphics >> format, Frame passes the graphics through the Wi

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2008-02-13 Thread Mike Wickham
> On 2/4/08, Mike Wickham wrote: >> If you're on the Windows platform, and creating documents for press, EPS >> is >> really the only way to go for color graphics. With every other graphics >> format, Frame passes the graphics through the Windows GDI when creating >> Postscript. CMYK graphics are

Re: also working with images

2008-02-13 Thread Paul Findon
On 13 Feb 2008, at 13:15, Milan Davidovic wrote: > On 2/4/08, Mike Wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you're on the Windows platform, and creating documents for >> press, EPS is >> really the only way to go for color graphics. With every other >> graphics >> format, Frame passes the grap

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2008-02-13 Thread Mike Wickham
> On 2/4/08, Mike Wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you're on the Windows platform, and creating documents for press, EPS >> is >> really the only way to go for color graphics. With every other graphics >> format, Frame passes the graphics through the Windows GDI when creating >> Postscript

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2008-02-13 Thread Milan Davidovic
On 2/4/08, Mike Wickham wrote: > If you're on the Windows platform, and creating documents for press, EPS is > really the only way to go for color graphics. With every other graphics > format, Frame passes the graphics through the Windows GDI when creating > Postscript. CMYK graphics are converted

Re: also working with images

2008-02-13 Thread Milan Davidovic
On 2/4/08, Mike Wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're on the Windows platform, and creating documents for press, EPS is > really the only way to go for color graphics. With every other graphics > format, Frame passes the graphics through the Windows GDI when creating > Postscript. CMYK gra

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2008-02-07 Thread richard.melan...@us.tel.com
lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Working with Images Rick... You are very correct about my brashness. My apologies to all of you. I was anxious to try and squelch some misconceptions and got carried away. David Creamer was particularly incensed with me because he thought I was aiming

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-07 Thread richard.melanson
Subject: RE: Working with Images Rick... You are very correct about my brashness. My apologies to all of you. I was anxious to try and squelch some misconceptions and got carried away. David Creamer was particularly incensed with me because he thought I was

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-07 Thread David Creamer
There seems to be some confusing on the use of the term "adding resolution" when referring to images. Resolution is simply a measure of the amount of pixels (X/Y counts) and a pixel-per-inch (ppi) setting. Resolution CAN be increased--period. This is typically done in a program like Photoshop. (Wh

Working with Images

2008-02-07 Thread David Creamer
There seems to be some confusing on the use of the term "adding resolution" when referring to images. Resolution is simply a measure of the amount of pixels (X/Y counts) and a pixel-per-inch (ppi) setting. Resolution CAN be increased--period. This is typically done in a program like Photoshop. (Wh

Working with Images

2008-02-06 Thread Stuart Rogers
John Sgammato wrote: > When you capture a 96dpi image at higher resolution, you will never > see detail that isn't there (of course) but you can do more with the > image because your OWN image of the image is capable of showing > greater resolution. You can look at it as if your high-res image > ca

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2008-02-06 Thread Stuart Rogers
John Sgammato wrote: > ... > Note that with SnagIt you can opt to capture the image at other > resolutions, so you need not change anything in FM. I capture images > as 200dpi TIFFs, and then import them at 200dpi in my books. I go to > print, PDF, and online help from a single set of screenshots.

Re: Working with Images

2008-02-06 Thread Stuart Rogers
John Sgammato wrote: > When you capture a 96dpi image at higher resolution, you will never > see detail that isn't there (of course) but you can do more with the > image because your OWN image of the image is capable of showing > greater resolution. You can look at it as if your high-res image > ca

Working with Images

2008-02-06 Thread Peter Gold
I don't think I've seen a mention about the variation of screen-pixel size among different monitor brands and models. I realize that although a screen pixel that's .35mm square, and one that's .25mm square create different on-screen image sizes and granularity for the same image, say 100px x 100px,

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-06 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
37 PM >To: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com >Subject: RE: Working with Images > >Rant begins... > >Well, I've had enough of this nonsensical babble. None of you seem >to understand what you are talking about when it comes to dealing >with screenshots and ra

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2008-02-06 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
f Dennis >Brunnenmeyer >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:37 PM >To: David Creamer; framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: RE: Working with Images > >Rant begins... > >Well, I've had enough of this nonsensical babble. None of you seem >to understand what you are

Re: Working with Images

2008-02-06 Thread Peter Gold
I don't think I've seen a mention about the variation of screen-pixel size among different monitor brands and models. I realize that although a screen pixel that's .35mm square, and one that's .25mm square create different on-screen image sizes and granularity for the same image, say 100px x 100px,

Re: Working with Images

2008-02-06 Thread Stuart Rogers
John Sgammato wrote: > ... > Note that with SnagIt you can opt to capture the image at other > resolutions, so you need not change anything in FM. I capture images > as 200dpi TIFFs, and then import them at 200dpi in my books. I go to > print, PDF, and online help from a single set of screenshots.

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-06 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
David... This was not an attack on you. Please see my remarks embedded below. Dennis... At 02:07 PM 2/5/2008, you wrote: >On Dennis Brunnenmeyer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2/5/08 11:36 >AM: > > > Rant begins... > > >

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2008-02-06 Thread richard.melan...@us.tel.com
to:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Brunnenmeyer Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:37 PM To: David Creamer; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Working with Images Rant begins... Well, I've had enough of this nonsensical babble. None of you seem to understand what you are talking

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-06 Thread richard.melanson
unnenmeyer Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:37 PM To: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Working with Images Rant begins... Well, I've had enough of this nonsensical babble. None of you seem to understand what you are talking about when it comes to dealing with scr

Re: Working with Images

2008-02-05 Thread David Creamer
On Dennis Brunnenmeyer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2/5/08 3:18 PM: > > This was not an attack on you. Please see my remarks embedded below. Hmmm... You quote my email and refer to me by name in your self-described rant. OK... > > I was referring to true image resolution. By resampling to a high

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2008-02-05 Thread David Creamer
On Dennis Brunnenmeyer at dennisb at chronometrics.com wrote on 2/5/08 3:18 PM: > > This was not an attack on you. Please see my remarks embedded below. Hmmm... You quote my email and refer to me by name in your self-described rant. OK... > > I was referring to true image resolution. By resamplin

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2008-02-05 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
David... This was not an attack on you. Please see my remarks embedded below. Dennis... At 02:07 PM 2/5/2008, you wrote: >On Dennis Brunnenmeyer at dennisb at chronometrics.com wrote on 2/5/08 11:36 >AM: > > > Rant begin

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-05 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Rant begins... Well, I've had enough of this nonsensical babble. None of you seem to understand what you are talking about when it comes to dealing with screenshots and raster images, (a.k.a. bitmapped images) as opposed to vector or llne art. First of all, display devices, whether printers or

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-05 Thread David Creamer
On Dennis Brunnenmeyer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2/5/08 11:36 AM: > Rant begins... > > > First of all, display devices, whether printers or monitors, have an upper > limit on their ability to resolve (print or display) image detail, which by > the way is what "resolution" is a measure of...m

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2008-02-05 Thread David Creamer
On Dennis Brunnenmeyer at dennisb at chronometrics.com wrote on 2/5/08 11:36 AM: > Rant begins... > > > First of all, display devices, whether printers or monitors, have an upper > limit on their ability to resolve (print or display) image detail, which by > the way is what "resolution" is a mea

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2008-02-05 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Rant begins... Well, I've had enough of this nonsensical babble. None of you seem to understand what you are talking about when it comes to dealing with screenshots and raster images, (a.k.a. bitmapped images) as opposed to vector or llne art. First of all, display devices, whether printers or

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-05 Thread David Creamer
> How can SnagIt capture an image at a higher resolution than what the screen > is set to? A 20" screen at 1280 x 1024, for example, is 96 DPI. How do you > get 200 DPI out of that? Screen size (20") is meaningless, only the monitor resolution counts. Again, referring to my last post, monitor re

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2008-02-05 Thread David Creamer
> How can SnagIt capture an image at a higher resolution than what the screen > is set to? A 20" screen at 1280 x 1024, for example, is 96 DPI. How do you > get 200 DPI out of that? Screen size (20") is meaningless, only the monitor resolution counts. Again, referring to my last post, monitor re

Working with Images: saving as HTML

2008-02-04 Thread Inbar, Paul
Hi all, First, thanks for a very informative thread. I have a question not so much about the best format, but about how Frame treats images imported by reference when saving Frame files as html (via Frame's Save as). This is in reference to an unstructured file in Frame 7.2. I find that when I s

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-04 Thread Diane Gaskill
Excellent explanation John. I'll definitely save your message. Thanks lots, Diane -Original Message- From: John Sgammato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 6:17 AM To: Diane Gaskill; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Working with Images

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2008-02-04 Thread Diane Gaskill
to the visible improvements. john From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sat 2/2/2008 4:55 AM To: John Sgammato; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Working with Images John, How can SnagIt capture an image at a higher resolution than what the screen is set to

RE: Working with Images: saving as HTML

2008-02-03 Thread Inbar, Paul
Hi all, First, thanks for a very informative thread. I have a question not so much about the best format, but about how Frame treats images imported by reference when saving Frame files as html (via Frame's Save as). This is in reference to an unstructured file in Frame 7.2. I find that when I s

Working with Images

2008-02-03 Thread Charles Beck
My vote would be with the PNG format. HTH, Chuck Beck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | Charles.Beck at infor.com -Original Message- Subject: Working with Images FM8 - XP (importing into anchored frames) I am using Snagit (default image resolution 96dpi, and sav

Re: Working with Images

2008-02-03 Thread David Creamer
Regarding resolution... If capturing display boxes, you cannot control how many PPI there are as they are programs in at X number of pixels by Y number of pixels. Resolution (ppi) is meaningless as it does not change total number of pixels. The only time you could control that is when capturing a

Working with Images

2008-02-03 Thread David Creamer
Regarding resolution... If capturing display boxes, you cannot control how many PPI there are as they are programs in at X number of pixels by Y number of pixels. Resolution (ppi) is meaningless as it does not change total number of pixels. The only time you could control that is when capturing a

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-03 Thread Charles Beck
My vote would be with the PNG format. HTH, Chuck Beck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Subject: Working with Images FM8 - XP (importing into anchored frames) I am using Snagit (default image resolution 96dpi, and saving as .

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2008-02-03 Thread Milan Davidovic
I've inherited responsibility for some Frame docs. Almost all of the images are .eps created in Illustrator and .jpg modified in Photoshop (there are matching.psd files for the .jpg files). These images are imported by reference, and the Frame docs only get PDF'd (no Help, web, etc.). What about u

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2008-02-03 Thread Fred Ridder
Pete Rourke asked several questions: > I am using Snagit (default image resolution 96dpi, and saving as .jpg) to > capture screenshots for a end user manual which assumes the user needs > visual walkthrough of using a desktop application and a pocket pc. > > There are 2 outputs intended: > > 1.

also working with images

2008-02-03 Thread Milan Davidovic
I've inherited responsibility for some Frame docs. Almost all of the images are .eps created in Illustrator and .jpg modified in Photoshop (there are matching.psd files for the .jpg files). These images are imported by reference, and the Frame docs only get PDF'd (no Help, web, etc.). What about u

Working with Images

2008-02-03 Thread Alan Litchfield
volved; this is just my best > attempt at explaining what I can see and what I use every day thanks > to the visible improvements. > > john > > > > From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcaller at earthlink.net] > Sent: Sat 2/2/2008 4:55 AM &g

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-03 Thread Fred Ridder
Pete Rourke asked several questions: > I am using Snagit (default image resolution 96dpi, and saving as .jpg) to > capture screenshots for a end user manual which assumes the user needs > visual walkthrough of using a desktop application and a pocket pc. > > There are 2 outputs intended: > > 1.

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-03 Thread Pete Rourke
ciate your input. Cheers Pete From: Dennis Brunnenmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 12:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ***DHSPAM*** RE: Working with Images Pete... >From the sound of things, you're importing the file directly. DO

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2008-02-02 Thread Pete Rourke
your input. Cheers Pete From: Dennis Brunnenmeyer [mailto:denn...@chronometrics.com] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 12:49 AM To: pete.rourke at reefpt.com Subject: Re: ***DHSPAM*** RE: Working with Images Pete... >From the sound of things, you're importing the file direct

Re: Working with Images

2008-02-02 Thread David Creamer
> So a question is what format, JPG, BMP, PNG, GIF saves the cleanest picture? Personally, I would not use JPEG as it tends to artifact round the type, making the image harder to read. PNG or TIFF would be my first choices, GIF as a third choice depending on the required color depth. David Cream

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2008-02-02 Thread David Creamer
> So a question is what format, JPG, BMP, PNG, GIF saves the cleanest picture? Personally, I would not use JPEG as it tends to artifact round the type, making the image harder to read. PNG or TIFF would be my first choices, GIF as a third choice depending on the required color depth. David Cream

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2008-02-02 Thread Alan Litchfield
Hi Pete, On 2/02/2008, at 10:53 AM, Pete Rourke wrote: > Here is another newbie question. > > FM8 - XP (importing into anchored frames) > > I am using Snagit (default image resolution 96dpi, and saving > as .jpg) to > capture screenshots for a end user manual which assumes the user needs > vis

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2008-02-02 Thread pete . rourke
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2008-02-02 Thread Alan Litchfield
volved; this is just my best > attempt at explaining what I can see and what I use every day thanks > to the visible improvements. > > john > > > > From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sat 2/2/2008 4:55 AM > To: John Sgamma

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2008-02-02 Thread John Sgammato
visible improvements. john From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sat 2/2/2008 4:55 AM To: John Sgammato; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Working with Images John, How can SnagIt capture an image at a higher resolution than what the scre

Re: Working with Images

2008-02-02 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Pete... Several important rules of thumb here: 1. Never save screen shots as jpg files, especially highly-compressed ones! They will not look nearly as good as *.bmp files. JPEG compression will soften the images so that they don't look real, like they do on the screen when viewed directly. Si

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-02 Thread John Sgammato
visible improvements. john From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 2/2/2008 4:55 AM To: John Sgammato; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Working with Images John, How can SnagIt capture an image at a higher resolution than what the screen is s

RE: Working with Images

2008-02-02 Thread Diane Gaskill
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:49 PM To: Alan Litchfield; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Working with Images ... > During import I choose 150 DPI, am I insane? By choosing 150dpi you are reducing the print size of the image. In other words you are scaling the picture to make it

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2008-02-02 Thread Diane Gaskill
es at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of John Sgammato Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:49 PM To: Alan Litchfield; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Working with Images ... > During import I choose 150 DPI, am I insane? By choosing 150dpi you are reducing the print size of the image. In oth

Working with Images

2008-02-01 Thread John Sgammato
... > During import I choose 150 DPI, am I insane? By choosing 150dpi you are reducing the print size of the image. In other words you are scaling the picture to make it smaller by increasing the resolution. ... Note that with SnagIt you can opt to capture the image at other resolutions, so yo

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2008-02-01 Thread pete . rourke
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2008-02-01 Thread John Sgammato
... > During import I choose 150 DPI, am I insane? By choosing 150dpi you are reducing the print size of the image. In other words you are scaling the picture to make it smaller by increasing the resolution. ... Note that with SnagIt you can opt to capture the image at other resolutions, so y

Working with Images

2008-02-01 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Pete... Several important rules of thumb here: 1. Never save screen shots as jpg files, especially highly-compressed ones! They will not look nearly as good as *.bmp files. JPEG compression will soften the images so that they don't look real, like they do on the screen when viewed directly. Si

Re: Working with Images

2008-02-01 Thread Alan Litchfield
Hi Pete, On 2/02/2008, at 10:53 AM, Pete Rourke wrote: > Here is another newbie question. > > FM8 - XP (importing into anchored frames) > > I am using Snagit (default image resolution 96dpi, and saving > as .jpg) to > capture screenshots for a end user manual which assumes the user needs > vis

Working with Images

2008-02-01 Thread Pete Rourke
Here is another newbie question. FM8 - XP (importing into anchored frames) I am using Snagit (default image resolution 96dpi, and saving as .jpg) to capture screenshots for a end user manual which assumes the user needs visual walkthrough of using a desktop application and a pocket pc. There

Working with Images

2008-02-01 Thread Pete Rourke
Here is another newbie question. FM8 - XP (importing into anchored frames) I am using Snagit (default image resolution 96dpi, and saving as .jpg) to capture screenshots for a end user manual which assumes the user needs visual walkthrough of using a desktop application and a pocket pc. The