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> *Sent:* Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:44 AM
> *To:* Lise Bible; Post Framers
> *Subject:* Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same
> book?
>
> You could try creating two separate templates (
ores your FM settings
(that is, you would set up all your formatting in the processor), and
then generate two different outputs.
Nadine
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To: Post Framers
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:57:12 AM
Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 siz
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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:44 PM
To: Lise Bible; Post Framers
Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files
Fellow Framers,
I'm mostly a lurker, but have found the wealth of knowledge shared by this
list's members to be quite helpful!
I have a manual (I'm on Frame 8) in which I've used conditional text to
show/hide tables, text, parts lists depending on if it's for the American
market or European.
This
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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 3:57 PM
To: Post Framers
Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
Fellow Framers,
I'm mostly a lurker, but have found the wealth of knowledge shared by
this list's members to be quite
), and then generate
two different outputs.
Nadine
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To: Post Framers framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:57:12 AM
Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
Fellow
Of Lise Bible
Sent: 2013-02-21-Thursday 10:57
To: Post Framers
Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
Fellow Framers,
I'm mostly a lurker, but have found the wealth of knowledge shared by
this list's members to be quite helpful!
I have a manual (I'm on Frame 8
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lise Bible
Sent: 2013-02-21-Thursday 10:57
To: Post Framers
Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
Fellow Framers,
I'm mostly a lurker, but have found the wealth of knowledge shared by
this list's
:44 AM
To: Lise Bible; Post Framers
Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate
from the book and separate from each other). One template file is 8.5 x 11, and
the other is A4. Both can
:* Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:44 AM
*To:* Lise Bible; Post Framers
*Subject:* Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same
book?
You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are
separate from the book and separate from each other). One template file
is 8.5 x 11
Framers
Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate
from the book and separate from each other). One template file is 8.5 x 11,
and the other is A4. Both can contain all other
What if you also had to switch from US to UK spelling when you switched from
Letter to A4? What would be the most straightforward way to handle that?
The only thing I can think of is conditional text. But you can include your
condition settings in the template.
Nadine
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:11 PM
To: Writer; Lise Bible; Post Framers
Subject: RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same
book?
Here's a what if scenario
; Post Framers
Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
What if you also had to switch from US to UK spelling when you switched from
Letter to A4? What would be the most straightforward way to handle that?
The only thing I can think of is conditional text. But you
Alison Craig wrote:
Also, does anyone know the equivalent custom paper size fudge for switching
between Tabloid (11x17) and the closest European paper size?
European A3 is the closest to US Tabloid. As I recall, it is slightly wider
(just under two centimeters) and slightly shorter (just over
...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:44 AM
To: Lise Bible; Post Framers
Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate
from the book and separate from each
I agree that Nadine’s suggestion of two templates is probably best if you have
time to work through each document every time you change to check that there
aren’t any unfortunate page breaks. Sensible use of “keep with next” instead
of hard “top of page” settings can help of course.
Yes,
I know printed copies from PDFs are almost quaint these days snip
Call me a Luddite, but I don't agree. This article is a bit old, but I think it
still holds true:
http://www.booklistonline.com/The-Manley-Arts-The-Cockroach-Will-Manley/pid=5390998
Nadine
On 21/02/2013 10:57 AM, Lise Bible wrote:
I have a manual (I'm on Frame 8) in which I've used conditional text to
show/hide tables, text, parts lists depending on if it's for the
American market or European.
This manual originated for a US-made product so it started life with
8.5x11 (US-letter
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lise Bible
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:57 AM
To: Post Framers
Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
Fellow Framers,
I'm mostly a lurker, but have found the wealth
Hello Lise;
There are two (IMO) better solutions than two full books.
One is to use a universal page (11.5 x 7.5 in ) --short enough to fit
on US Letter; narrow enough for A4. The downside is that you will end up
with extra white space (LR on US, TB on A4). OTOH, you can print the
PDF
Doh! Peter is correct about the page dimensions. Sufficient coffee
evidently has not reached neurons yet.
Grant
On 2/21/2013 9:35 AM, Peter Hirons wrote:
I frequently hit this problem, but my solution is to define a custom
paper size of 8.25 x 11 inches. This will print on both paper sizes
Create two sets of master page definitions and import the one you want?
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Lise Bible rentagoodb...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a good way to switch back and forth between A4 and 8.5x11 page
sizes, depending on which version of a book you want to print?
A3 is 11.693 x 16.535.
Brits are used to putting up with American English in technical
documentation, but if you had to deliver two versions, it would
probably be most efficient to handle one as a translation.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Alison Craig
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:
Hello All
While I agree about the use of two templates, there's a more
philosophical aspect to this that has not been mentioned. When we talk
about page size, we refer to the physical paper on which a document will
be printed. But a more important consideration from an aesthetic point
of
Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same
book?
You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are
separate from the book and separate from each other). One template file
is 8.5 x 11, and the other is A4. Both can contain all other attributes
(paragraph
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:44 PM
To: Lise Bible; Post Framers
Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files
Fellow Framers,
I'm mostly a lurker, but have found the wealth of knowledge shared by this
list's members to be quite helpful!
I have a manual (I'm on Frame 8) in which I've used conditional text to
show/hide tables, text, parts lists depending on if it's for the American
market or European.
This
at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lise Bible
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 3:57 PM
To: Post Framers
Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
Fellow Framers,
I'm mostly a lurker, but have found the wealth of knowledge shared by
this list's members to be quite
), and then generate
two different outputs.
Nadine
>
> From: Lise Bible
>To: Post Framers
>Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:57:12 AM
>Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
>
>
>Fellow Framers,
>I'
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Sent: 2013-02-21-Thursday 10:57
To: Post Framers
Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
Fellow Framers,
I'm mostly a lurker, but have found the wealth of knowledge shared by
this list's members to be quite helpful!
I have a ma
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Sent: 2013-02-21-Thursday 10:57
To: Post Framers
Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
Fellow Framers,
I'm mostly a lurker, but have found the wealth of knowledge shared by
this list's members
hursday, February 21, 2013 8:44 AM
To: Lise Bible; Post Framers
Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate
from the book and separate from each other). One template file is 8.5 x 11, and
t
Behalf Of Writer
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:44 AM
> To: Lise Bible; Post Framers
> Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
>
>
>
> You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate
> from the book and
>What if you also had to switch from US to UK spelling when you switched from
>Letter to A4? What would be the most straightforward way to handle that?
The only thing I can think of is conditional text. But you can include your
condition settings in the template.
Nadine
se.
Peter
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:11 PM
To: Writer; Lise Bible; Post Framers
Subject: RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same
book?
Here's
; Post Framers
Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
>What if you also had to switch from US to UK spelling when you switched from
>Letter to A4? What would be the most straightforward way to handle that?
The only thing I can think of is conditional text. B
Alison Craig wrote:
>Also, does anyone know the equivalent custom paper size "fudge" for switching
>between Tabloid (11x17) and the closest European paper size?
European A3 is the closest to US Tabloid. As I recall, it is slightly wider
(just under two centimeters) and slightly shorter (just
t;mailto:framers-bounces at
lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Writer
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:44 AM
To: Lise Bible; Post Framers
Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
You could try creating two separate tem
Great and useful advice as always, everyone.
Thanks, Alison
From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
[mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:40 AM
To: Alison Craig; Post Framers
Subject: RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book
>I agree that Nadine?s suggestion of two templates is probably best if you have
>time to work through each document every time you change to check that there
>aren?t any unfortunate page breaks.? Sensible use of ?keep with next? instead
>of hard ?top of page? settings can help of course.
Yes,
>I know printed copies from PDFs are almost quaint these days
Call me a Luddite, but I don't agree. This article is a bit old, but I think it
still holds
true:?http://www.booklistonline.com/The-Manley-Arts-The-Cockroach-Will-Manley/pid=5390998
Nadine
On 21/02/2013 10:57 AM, Lise Bible wrote:
>
> I have a manual (I'm on Frame 8) in which I've used conditional text to
> show/hide tables, text, parts lists depending on if it's for the
> American market or European.
> This manual originated for a US-made product so it started life with
> 8.5x11
om: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lise Bible
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:57 AM
To: Post Framers
Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
Fellow Framers,
I'm mostly a lurker, but have
Hello Lise;
There are two (IMO) better solutions than two full books.
One is to use a "universal" page (11.5 x 7.5 in ) --short enough to fit
on US Letter; narrow enough for A4. The downside is that you will end up
with extra white space (L on US, T on A4). OTOH, you can print the
PDF
Doh! Peter is correct about the page dimensions. Sufficient coffee
evidently has not reached neurons yet.
Grant
On 2/21/2013 9:35 AM, Peter Hirons wrote:
>
> I frequently hit this problem, but my solution is to define a custom
> paper size of 8.25 x 11 inches. This will print on both paper
Create two sets of master page definitions and import the one you want?
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Lise Bible wrote:
> Is there a good way to switch back and forth between A4 and 8.5x11 page
> sizes, depending on which version of a book you want to print?
A3 is 11.693" x 16.535".
Brits are used to putting up with American English in technical
documentation, but if you had to deliver two versions, it would
probably be most efficient to handle one as a translation.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Alison Craig
wrote:
> What if you also had to
Hello All
While I agree about the use of two templates, there's a more
philosophical aspect to this that has not been mentioned. When we talk
about page size, we refer to the physical paper on which a document will
be printed. But a more important consideration from an aesthetic point
of view
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