RE: Standard tags for technical templates

2008-10-29 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi,

Of course there may be situations, when a starting
paragraph for a set of steps may be needed. I use this
to specify more space before the first step.

Without knowing the numbering settings all these e-mails
about the purpose of these paragraph formats are pure
speculation. Nancy, could you check the numbering and
post it?

Best regards

Winfried

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:10 PM
 To: Mike Wickham; Nancy Allison; Frame Users
 Subject: Re: Standard tags for technical templates
 
 I'd say that S and S+ are duplicates if they both behave the same.
 
 And further I'd reformat the template so that you only have one tag 
 for numbering at that level. The reste for the numbering being in the 
 body, heading, and other tags. It's much more elegant, and removes 
 the problem of missing that first numbering.
 
 Scott
 
 At 2:57 PM -0500 10/28/08, Mike Wickham wrote:
For example, the current template uses these paragraph tag names:
 
   S
   S1
   S+
 
   Both S1 is for Step 1; S and S+ act as Step +. (I don't 
 know why there
   are two tags that appear to have  the same function. A 
 mistake? Or am I
   missing something?)
 
 S1 probably resets the autonumbering to start over at Step 1.
 
 S probably continues the numbering from the previous step.
 
 And S+ is probably for those situations where a step has 
 more than one
 paragraph. You don't want Step n at the beginning of such 
 a paragraph, so
 it omits the autonumbering.
 
 Mike Wickham
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Text is RGB

2008-10-29 Thread Paul Findon
Windows XP Pro SP2
FrameMaker 7.1
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When I create a PDF, black text becomes RGB. My printer won't accept  
this. Does anyone know how to fix this?

Paul
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Russian Bookmarks Corrupt

2008-10-29 Thread Paul Findon
Windows XP Pro SP2
FrameMaker 8
Acrobat 8

When I print a Russian FM file to PDF, bookamrks are corupt. Does  
anyone know how to fix this?

(This file started life in FM7, but I understand that FM8 converted  
all of the text to Unicode.)

Paul
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SV: Text is RGB

2008-10-29 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Paul,

With Acrobat 5 one solution would be to use our Publi PDF Optimizer with 
Distiller 5. You can download it from 
http://www.grafikhuset.net/publipdf/download.htm. The trial version works as a 
100% production ready copy for 30 days and should resolve your problem with its 
default installation settings.

With Publi PDF you simply print to the Publi PDF queue (printer) instead of the 
similar Acrobat Distiller or Adobe PDF printer.

For additional details please see: 
http://www.grafikhuset.net/publipdf/tech_components_optimizer_plugin.html and 
http://www.grafikhuset.net/publipdf/whitepaper_difficult_pdf_documents.html

Feel free to contact me off-list if you need further assistance.

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 Emne: Text is RGB
 
 
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 When I create a PDF, black text becomes RGB. My printer won't accept  
 this. Does anyone know how to fix this?
 
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RE: Text is RGB

2008-10-29 Thread Dov Isaacs
There is an exceptionally simple solution to this. Go the settings for
the Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance. Under Properties go
to the Device Settings tab and change Convert Gray Text to PostScript Gray
and Convert Gray Graphics to PostScript Gray BOTH to Yes. As a result
all R=G=B text and vector graphics will be represented as PostScript grayscale
and (unless your printer has a defective RIP) will appear on the Black plate
only!

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Findon
 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:46 AM

 Windows XP Pro SP2
 FrameMaker 7.1
 Acrobat 5

 When I create a PDF, black text becomes RGB. My printer won't accept
 this. Does anyone know how to fix this?

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ADVANCED QUESTION

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Zaichenko

Hello all,

i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control mouse pointer in 
FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set up i.e. it displays different 
pointer depending on an object selected. I would like to expand this to custom 
made objects - i.e. give a cursor different appearance when it is hovered over 
a specific type of an object.

Ideas?

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Re: ADVANCED QUESTION

2008-10-29 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Michael,

You might be able to use a resource editor like XN Resource Editor to change 
the cursors. Make sure you back up any FrameMaker resource files before 
changing them.

Rick Quatro
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585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



 Hello all,

 i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control mouse pointer 
 in FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set up i.e. it displays 
 different pointer depending on an object selected. I would like to expand 
 this to custom made objects - i.e. give a cursor different appearance when 
 it is hovered over a specific type of an object.

 Ideas?

 Michael

 Im on FM 7.1, XP SP3

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RE: ADVANCED QUESTION

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Zaichenko

thanks Rick,
yes, I know how to change the existing ones. How about adding new ones and 
associating them.

Michael

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 Subject: Re: ADVANCED QUESTION
 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:48:45 -0400
 
 Hi Michael,
 
 You might be able to use a resource editor like XN Resource Editor to change 
 the cursors. Make sure you back up any FrameMaker resource files before 
 changing them.
 
 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing Inc
 585-659-8267
 www.frameexpert.com
 
 
 
  Hello all,
 
  i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control mouse pointer 
  in FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set up i.e. it displays 
  different pointer depending on an object selected. I would like to expand 
  this to custom made objects - i.e. give a cursor different appearance when 
  it is hovered over a specific type of an object.
 
  Ideas?
 
  Michael
 
  Im on FM 7.1, XP SP3
 

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Re: Russian Bookmarks Corrupt

2008-10-29 Thread Paul Findon
On 29 Oct 2008, at 11:48, Paul Findon wrote:

 Windows XP Pro SP2
 FrameMaker 8
 Acrobat 8

 When I print a Russian FM file to PDF, bookamrks are corupt. Does
 anyone know how to fix this?

 (This file started life in FM7, but I understand that FM8 converted
 all of the text to Unicode.)

This appears to be an issue with the way FM8 handles FM7 docs that  
use unsupported languages such as Russian.

The self-discovered workaround is to copy the relevant headings and  
titles from the PDF file back to FM8 and distill again.

Paul
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Sorting: Ignoring periods

2008-10-29 Thread Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC
Hello fellow FrameManiacs,

 

In an index of paragraph titles;

 

I WANT:

Heidi.

Heidi Chronicles.

Heidi Fleiss.

Heidi Ho.

Heidi Klum.

 

I GET:

Heidi Chronicles.

Heidi Fleiss.

Heidi Ho.

Heidi Klum.

Heidi.

 

Do I need to monkey with the SortOrder of the IgnoreChars?

 

TIA,

DJ

 

 

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Re: ADVANCED QUESTION

2008-10-29 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Michael,

That I don't know.

Rick
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Zaichenko 
  To: Rick Quatro ; FrameUsers Users 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:53 AM
  Subject: RE: ADVANCED QUESTION


  thanks Rick,
  yes, I know how to change the existing ones. How about adding new ones and 
associating them.

  Michael

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Re: The dreaded Internal Error error meets the dreaded Adobe

2008-10-29 Thread Trish McDermott
This is in response to an old thread from January 2008.

Regarding FrameMaker error 7104, 6063074, 7693891, 0.

I often get that error when printing a FrameMaker v7.1 file to PDF (Acrobat 7)
that has Conditional Text applied.

To resolve the problem, I save the backup file (of the file that caused 
FrameMaker to crash)
to another location (so it's not overwritten), restart FrameMaker, reopen the 
offending file, 
show all Conditions, then rehide the unused conditions.

It sounds like a strange fix, but I'm finding more and more that the 
Conditional text needs
to be ruffled, especially if Conditions have been shown and then hidden in 
just one 
file of a book, rather than across a book.

This usually solves the problem. To be sure that nothing was corrupted (such as
missing Conditional text) during the crash, I also run a compare between the 
backup 
file that saved to another location, and my current FrameMaker file.

Trish McDermott
Avatar Tech Pubs

 -Original Message-
From: Emily Berk
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:29 PM

Hi FrameUsers:

I don't know why I thought this list was no more.  I'm glad that it is. 
Please help me with my FrameMaker 7.1 (yes, I know it's old; I am 
too and it's all the company I work for is willing to use and I need 
to be able to generate this one little PDF sometime within
the next decade).

Following is my latest tale of woe.

I always forget why I always get queasy before calling Adobe's tech support.

But then, once again, once my interaction with Adobe is complete, the
nightmare has only just begun.

Take today, for instance. Well, it all started yesterday when I began to 
get Internal Error crashes when I tried to generate a PDF, any PDF, 
on any Frame file (not on Word docs) using FrameMaker 7.1.
Because I had a vague recollection of what it was like to interact
with Adobe support, I didn't try that.  But I did try a LOT of other stuff.
For hours and hours.  All to no avail.

So, I decided to try to sleep on the problem, which wasn't a successful 
strategy for me.  I've had a number of these Internal Error issues 
come up in the past and they never, ever, never go away on their own.

Since sleep did not come, I chose to begin my Adobe nightmare early.
Called tech support and spoke with about 3 or 4 perfectly nice folks 
whose English was very unclear.

They would have to ask their questions, oh, six or seven times before
I realized that they were asking, for the seventh or eighth time, what 
my customer number or serial number or product  was.

Eventually, (I was on hold and/or being transferred and then asked
redundant questions about 45
minutes) I get to speak with someone about my problem.  He doesn't
speak very good English, but I am
given to understand that he does not DO FrameMaker support.

So now I'm on hold again for another very long interval.

And a guy picks up who DOES speak English.  And I explain my tale of
woe -- no change on my end in terms of the software for at least 2 years.  
The doc is one I've been working on since last October at least.

I tell him the whole story and he lets me go on and on and then he
tells me, in his good English, that
he doesn't know anything whatsoever about FrameMaker.

But assures me that the guy who next picks up with both know
FrameMaker AND be able to speak English.
So I'm on hold again for -- not all that long -- maybe another 8
minutes, but time has been ticking away.

Then a guy picks up and yes he does speak English and implies that he
knows everything one might want to know about FrameMaker.  
But he knows nothing about me.

SO, I have to re-iterate EVERYTHING again.  Customer number, phone
number, address, hair color, eye color, preferred brand of beer, product serial
number, tale of woe.

And then, after I'd re-iterated everything, he says, FrameMaker 7.1 is no 
longer supported.  You need to search the knowledgebase or buy FrameMaker 8.

1.  THEY ALL KNEW THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE 
SUPPORT TO ME ONCE THEY KNEW I WAS USING
FRAMEMAKER 7.1.  Why did they just not hang up on me then?

2.  AND YET THEY KEPT ME ON HOLD/TALKING for NEARLY TWO HOURS.
(I'm guessing all those guys who didn't speak good English get paid to delay 
people 
like me by the minute.)

3.  AND THEN THEY REFUSED TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, BUT IMPLIED THAT THE SOLUTION 
IS IN THE KNOWLEDGEBASE.

4.  WHICH IT ISN'T BECAUSE I'VE TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING 
MENTIONED IN THE DATABASE FOR Internal Error:
7104, 6063074, 7693891, 0

And, no, the company I'm working with is NOT going to upgrade to
FrameMaker 8 just because Adobe did some hidden upgrade to 7.1 
that made it psychotic.

Do I sound frantic?  It's probably just stress.

Anyone have any suggestions?

-- Emily
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Re: ADVANCED QUESTION

2008-10-29 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:26:38 +0100, Michael Zaichenko 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control 
mouse pointer in FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set 
up i.e. it displays different pointer depending on an object 
selected. I would like to expand this to custom made objects - 
i.e. give a cursor different appearance when it is hovered 
over a specific type of an object.

Ideas?

You can do this with Windows hook functions.  Look
up the way to use them in MSDN Help (comes with VS 6+)
under SetWindowsHookEx.  In essence, you intercept the
message from Windows to Frame, then use the WinAPI to
decide whether to change something or pass the message 
on, or both.  This applies to any Windows program; it
isn't Frame-specific.

For the mouse, you get told where it is, but figuring
out what is under it is your job.  You can get the
handle of the topmost window there, but Windows itself
has no idea what Frame is displaying at that point,
and Frame won't tell you in the FDK.  Hmmm...  ;-)

Good luck!

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Standard tags for technical templates

2008-10-29 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi,

Of course there may be situations, when a starting
paragraph for a set of steps may be needed. I use this
to specify more space before the first step.

Without knowing the numbering settings all these e-mails
about the purpose of these paragraph formats are pure
speculation. Nancy, could you check the numbering and
post it?

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> quills at airmail.net
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:10 PM
> To: Mike Wickham; Nancy Allison; Frame Users
> Subject: Re: Standard tags for technical templates
> 
> I'd say that S and S+ are duplicates if they both behave the same.
> 
> And further I'd reformat the template so that you only have one tag 
> for numbering at that level. The reste for the numbering being in the 
> body, heading, and other tags. It's much more elegant, and removes 
> the problem of missing that first numbering.
> 
> Scott
> 
> At 2:57 PM -0500 10/28/08, Mike Wickham wrote:
> >  > For example, the current template uses these paragraph tag names:
> >>
> >>  S
> >>  S1
> >>  S+
> >>
> >>  Both S1 is for Step 1; S and S+ act as Step +. (I don't 
> know why there
> >>  are two tags that appear to have  the same function. A 
> mistake? Or am I
> >>  missing something?)
> >
> >S1 probably resets the autonumbering to start over at Step 1.
> >
> >S probably continues the numbering from the previous step.
> >
> >And S+ is probably for those situations where a step has 
> more than one
> >paragraph. You don't want "Step n" at the beginning of such 
> a paragraph, so
> >it omits the autonumbering.
> >
> >Mike Wickham


Text is RGB

2008-10-29 Thread Paul Findon
Windows XP Pro SP2
FrameMaker 7.1
Acrobat 5

When I create a PDF, black text becomes RGB. My printer won't accept  
this. Does anyone know how to fix this?

Paul


Russian Bookmarks Corrupt

2008-10-29 Thread Paul Findon
Windows XP Pro SP2
FrameMaker 8
Acrobat 8

When I print a Russian FM file to PDF, bookamrks are corupt. Does  
anyone know how to fix this?

(This file started life in FM7, but I understand that FM8 converted  
all of the text to Unicode.)

Paul


SV: Text is RGB

2008-10-29 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Paul,

With Acrobat 5 one solution would be to use our Publi PDF Optimizer with 
Distiller 5. You can download it from 
http://www.grafikhuset.net/publipdf/download.htm. The trial version works as a 
100% production ready copy for 30 days and should resolve your problem with its 
default installation settings.

With Publi PDF you simply print to the Publi PDF queue (printer) instead of the 
similar Acrobat Distiller or Adobe PDF printer.

For additional details please see: 
http://www.grafikhuset.net/publipdf/tech_components_optimizer_plugin.html and 
http://www.grafikhuset.net/publipdf/whitepaper_difficult_pdf_documents.html

Feel free to contact me off-list if you need further assistance.

If you have Acrobat 7 or later you might be able to setup a workflow that makes 
the converion for you directly.

Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
Jacob Sch?ffer  |  Chief Developer
Paradis All? 22, Raml?se
DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark
Phone: +45 4439 4400
Email: js at grafikhuset.dk
Web: www.grafikhuset.net



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> Til: FrameUsers List
> Emne: Text is RGB
> 
> 
> Windows XP Pro SP2
> FrameMaker 7.1
> Acrobat 5
> 
> When I create a PDF, black text becomes RGB. My printer won't accept  
> this. Does anyone know how to fix this?
> 
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Text is RGB

2008-10-29 Thread Dov Isaacs
There is an exceptionally simple solution to this. Go the settings for
the Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance. Under "Properties" go
to the "Device Settings" tab and change "Convert Gray Text to PostScript Gray"
and "Convert Gray Graphics to PostScript Gray" BOTH to "Yes." As a result
all R=G=B text and vector graphics will be represented as PostScript grayscale
and (unless your printer has a defective RIP) will appear on the Black plate
only!

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Findon
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:46 AM
>
> Windows XP Pro SP2
> FrameMaker 7.1
> Acrobat 5
>
> When I create a PDF, black text becomes RGB. My printer won't accept
> this. Does anyone know how to fix this?
>
> Paul


ADVANCED QUESTION

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Zaichenko

Hello all,

i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control mouse pointer in 
FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set up i.e. it displays different 
pointer depending on an object selected. I would like to expand this to custom 
made objects - i.e. give a cursor different appearance when it is hovered over 
a specific type of an object.

Ideas?

Michael

Im on FM 7.1, XP SP3

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ADVANCED QUESTION

2008-10-29 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Michael,

You might be able to use a resource editor like XN Resource Editor to change 
the cursors. Make sure you back up any FrameMaker resource files before 
changing them.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


>
> Hello all,
>
> i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control mouse pointer 
> in FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set up i.e. it displays 
> different pointer depending on an object selected. I would like to expand 
> this to custom made objects - i.e. give a cursor different appearance when 
> it is hovered over a specific type of an object.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Michael
>
> Im on FM 7.1, XP SP3



ADVANCED QUESTION

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Zaichenko

thanks Rick,
yes, I know how to change the existing ones. How about adding new ones and 
associating them.

Michael

> From: frameexpert at truevine.net
> To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: ADVANCED QUESTION
> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:48:45 -0400
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> You might be able to use a resource editor like XN Resource Editor to change 
> the cursors. Make sure you back up any FrameMaker resource files before 
> changing them.
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com
> 
> 
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control mouse pointer 
> > in FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set up i.e. it displays 
> > different pointer depending on an object selected. I would like to expand 
> > this to custom made objects - i.e. give a cursor different appearance when 
> > it is hovered over a specific type of an object.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Im on FM 7.1, XP SP3
> 

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"An error occurred while printing."

2008-10-29 Thread Nina Rogers
Hi all,

Thanks so much for your thoughtful feedback on my issue with the PDF
"error occurred while printing" message. I followed all the advice I
could get, but I never did figure out why it was not working correctly.

When I went to re-boot my computer, there was a message that Windows
needed to install a bunch of updates, so I had it install the updates.
After that, I no longer got the error message in Framemaker.

I don't see how the Windows updates would have made a difference. Maybe
they did, maybe they didn't. Sometimes just re-booting a couple of times
seems to solve the problem.

Still, I wish I could figure out what caused the problem in the first
place. Our big deadline for this PDF manual is in November, and it would
be a nightmare if I couldn't get the program to print as PDF when it
mattered most.

Thanks again! I really appreciate this list.

Nina (not "Nuna" ... it shows how tired/frustrated I am when I can't
spell my own name correctly!)  :)


Russian Bookmarks Corrupt

2008-10-29 Thread Paul Findon
On 29 Oct 2008, at 11:48, Paul Findon wrote:

> Windows XP Pro SP2
> FrameMaker 8
> Acrobat 8
>
> When I print a Russian FM file to PDF, bookamrks are corupt. Does
> anyone know how to fix this?
>
> (This file started life in FM7, but I understand that FM8 converted
> all of the text to Unicode.)

This appears to be an issue with the way FM8 handles FM7 docs that  
use unsupported languages such as Russian.

The self-discovered workaround is to copy the relevant headings and  
titles from the PDF file back to FM8 and distill again.

Paul


Sorting: Ignoring periods

2008-10-29 Thread Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC
Hello fellow FrameManiacs,



In an index of paragraph titles;



I WANT:

Heidi.

Heidi Chronicles.

Heidi Fleiss.

Heidi Ho.

Heidi Klum.



I GET:

Heidi Chronicles.

Heidi Fleiss.

Heidi Ho.

Heidi Klum.

Heidi.



Do I need to monkey with the SortOrder of the IgnoreChars?



TIA,

DJ







ADVANCED QUESTION

2008-10-29 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Michael,

That I don't know.

Rick
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Zaichenko 
  To: Rick Quatro ; FrameUsers Users 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:53 AM
  Subject: RE: ADVANCED QUESTION


  thanks Rick,
  yes, I know how to change the existing ones. How about adding new ones and 
associating them.

  Michael



ADVANCED QUESTION

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Michael...

The FDK does not specifically provide access to the mouse pointer, so 
this would be a combination of FDK and Windows API calls .. however, I 
don't believe that there is a "hover" event in the FDK, so I don't know 
how you'd get information about the underlying object from FM to be able 
to modify the cursor at any given instance. You can get information 
about an object on mouse click events, but not a hover.

You might try the frame_dev Yahoo group to see if anyone there has any 
ideas.

Good luck.

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Michael Zaichenko wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control mouse pointer in 
> FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set up i.e. it displays different 
> pointer depending on an object selected. I would like to expand this to 
> custom made objects - i.e. give a cursor different appearance when it is 
> hovered over a specific type of an object.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Michael
>
> Im on FM 7.1, XP SP3
>
> _
>
>   


The dreaded Internal Error error meets the dreaded Adobe

2008-10-29 Thread Trish McDermott
This is in response to an old thread from January 2008.

Regarding FrameMaker error 7104, 6063074, 7693891, 0.

I often get that error when printing a FrameMaker v7.1 file to PDF (Acrobat 7)
that has Conditional Text applied.

To resolve the problem, I save the backup file (of the file that caused 
FrameMaker to crash)
to another location (so it's not overwritten), restart FrameMaker, reopen the 
offending file, 
show all Conditions, then rehide the unused conditions.

It sounds like a strange fix, but I'm finding more and more that the 
Conditional text needs
to be "ruffled", especially if Conditions have been shown and then hidden in 
just one 
file of a book, rather than across a book.

This usually solves the problem. To be sure that nothing was corrupted (such as
missing Conditional text) during the crash, I also run a compare between the 
backup 
file that saved to another location, and my current FrameMaker file.

Trish McDermott
Avatar Tech Pubs

> -Original Message-
From: Emily Berk
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:29 PM

Hi FrameUsers:

I don't know why I thought this list was no more.  I'm glad that it is. 
Please help me with my FrameMaker 7.1 (yes, I know it's old; I am 
too and it's all the company I work for is willing to use and I need 
to be able to generate this one little PDF sometime within
the next decade).

Following is my latest tale of woe.

I always forget why I always get queasy before calling Adobe's tech support.

But then, once again, once my interaction with Adobe is complete, the
nightmare has only just begun.

Take today, for instance. Well, it all started yesterday when I began to 
get Internal Error crashes when I tried to generate a PDF, any PDF, 
on any Frame file (not on Word docs) using FrameMaker 7.1.
Because I had a vague recollection of what it was like to interact
with Adobe support, I didn't try that.  But I did try a LOT of other stuff.
For hours and hours.  All to no avail.

So, I decided to try to sleep on the problem, which wasn't a successful 
strategy for me.  I've had a number of these Internal Error issues 
come up in the past and they never, ever, never go away on their own.

Since sleep did not come, I chose to begin my Adobe nightmare early.
Called tech support and spoke with about 3 or 4 perfectly nice folks 
whose English was very unclear.

They would have to ask their questions, oh, six or seven times before
I realized that they were asking, for the seventh or eighth time, what 
my customer number or serial number or product  was.

Eventually, (I was on hold and/or being transferred and then asked
redundant questions about 45
minutes) I get to speak with someone about my problem.  He doesn't
speak very good English, but I am
given to understand that he does not DO FrameMaker support.

So now I'm on hold again for another very long interval.

And a guy picks up who DOES speak English.  And I explain my tale of
woe -- no change on my end in terms of the software for at least 2 years.  
The doc is one I've been working on since last October at least.

I tell him the whole story and he lets me go on and on and then he
tells me, in his good English, that
he doesn't know anything whatsoever about FrameMaker.

But assures me that the guy who next picks up with both know
FrameMaker AND be able to speak English.
So I'm on hold again for -- not all that long -- maybe another 8
minutes, but time has been ticking away.

Then a guy picks up and yes he does speak English and implies that he
knows everything one might want to know about FrameMaker.  
But he knows nothing about me.

SO, I have to re-iterate EVERYTHING again.  Customer number, phone
number, address, hair color, eye color, preferred brand of beer, product serial
number, tale of woe.

And then, after I'd re-iterated everything, he says, "FrameMaker 7.1 is no 
longer supported.  You need to search the knowledgebase or buy FrameMaker 8."

1.  THEY ALL KNEW THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE 
SUPPORT TO ME ONCE THEY KNEW I WAS USING
FRAMEMAKER 7.1.  Why did they just not hang up on me then?

2.  AND YET THEY KEPT ME ON HOLD/TALKING for NEARLY TWO HOURS.
(I'm guessing all those guys who didn't speak good English get paid to delay 
people 
like me by the minute.)

3.  AND THEN THEY REFUSED TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, BUT IMPLIED THAT THE SOLUTION 
IS IN THE KNOWLEDGEBASE.

4.  WHICH IT ISN'T BECAUSE I'VE TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING 
MENTIONED IN THE DATABASE FOR Internal Error:
7104, 6063074, 7693891, 0

And, no, the company I'm working with is NOT going to upgrade to
FrameMaker 8 just because Adobe did some hidden "upgrade" to 7.1 
that made it psychotic.

Do I sound frantic?  It's probably just stress.

Anyone have any suggestions?

-- Emily


ADVANCED QUESTION

2008-10-29 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:26:38 +0100, Michael Zaichenko 
 wrote:

>i have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to control 
>mouse pointer in FrameMaker. FM has its own mouse pointer set 
>up i.e. it displays different pointer depending on an object 
>selected. I would like to expand this to custom made objects - 
>i.e. give a cursor different appearance when it is hovered 
>over a specific type of an object.
>
>Ideas?

You can do this with Windows "hook" functions.  Look
up the way to use them in MSDN Help (comes with VS 6+)
under SetWindowsHookEx.  In essence, you intercept the
message from Windows to Frame, then use the WinAPI to
decide whether to change something or pass the message 
on, or both.  This applies to any Windows program; it
isn't Frame-specific.

For the mouse, you get told where it is, but figuring
out what is under it is your job.  You can get the
handle of the topmost window there, but Windows itself
has no idea what Frame is displaying at that point,
and Frame won't tell you in the FDK.  Hmmm...  ;-)

Good luck!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/