Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[Eva Whitley]

First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing 
both 81/2x11 and 11x17 pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11x17 
pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book.

Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie 
efforts to fix.

As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined 
for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format  (from the Numbering tab 
on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is
Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ so the first 
table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the 
first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next 
table the Autonumber Format is
Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ that should be 
labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table 
5.1-5-1  .

Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2. 
The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table 
5.1-5-1  .
The Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n  
  -n+

Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how 
it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as 
unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old 
one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original 
location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new 
document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into 
the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in 
to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it.

I'm truly stumped. What am I missing?

-- 
Eva Whitley, ETOSS Contract
301-713-1833x191
SSMC-2, 16129

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Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[quills]

Check that the styles with numbering formats that fall between those 
tables are replicating the proper stream. Someone is either off a 
placeholder, or resetting your numbers.

Scott

Eva Whitley wrote:
 First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing 
 both 81/2x11 and 11x17 pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11x17 
 pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book.

 Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie 
 efforts to fix.

 As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined 
 for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format  (from the Numbering tab 
 on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is
 Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ so the first 
 table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the 
 first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next 
 table the Autonumber Format is
 Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ that should be 
 labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table 
 5.1-5-1  .

 Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2. 
 The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table 
 5.1-5-1  .
 The Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n  
   -n+

 Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how 
 it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as 
 unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old 
 one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original 
 location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new 
 document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into 
 the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in 
 to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it.

 I'm truly stumped. What am I missing?

   

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FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Joseph]

Hi all,

I have started testing FM 9 p230.  Over all, I like the new UI design.
However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat.  When I
rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work
spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the following
ways.

-Menus will start shaking and shifting around
-UI elements bleed into one another
-the selection for user defined work spaces disappears from the work space
menu

Has anyone else experienced problems like this??

-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini
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Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[Art Campbell]

In the book file, select each chapter, then right click and select
Numbering  Paragraphs.
Is it set to increment?

And did you update and save the book before checking the table
numbering, to force a refresh?

Art

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On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Eva Whitley eva.whit...@noaa.gov wrote:
 First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing
 both 81/2x11 and 11x17 pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11x17
 pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book.

 Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie
 efforts to fix.

 As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined
 for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format  (from the Numbering tab
 on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is
 Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ so the first
 table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the
 first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next
 table the Autonumber Format is
 Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ that should be
 labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table
 5.1-5-1  .

 Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2.
 The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table
 5.1-5-1  .
 The Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n 
   -n+

 Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how
 it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as
 unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old
 one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original
 location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new
 document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into
 the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in
 to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it.

 I'm truly stumped. What am I missing?

 --
 Eva Whitley, ETOSS Contract
 301-713-1833x191
 SSMC-2, 16129

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Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Art Campbell]

I haven't seen that, but each system is different.
You may want to make sure that your video card drivers are up to date...

Art

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On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Joseph panoptico...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have started testing FM 9 p230.  Over all, I like the new UI design.
 However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat.  When I
 rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work
 spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the following
 ways.

 -Menus will start shaking and shifting around
 -UI elements bleed into one another
 -the selection for user defined work spaces disappears from the work space
 menu

 Has anyone else experienced problems like this??

 --
 Sincerely,

 Joseph Lorenzini
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Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[Art Campbell]

Scott's idea is something I didn't notice when you published your
numbering strings.

Insert a letter in front of the string to specify a unique numbering
stream -- you can have 50+ of them, but it's best to make each type
unique. Specifying a specific stream ensures that other tags won't
reset one particular tag. For example, you could make your table
string unique by preceding it with a t: to make it:
t:Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ . Then save
and update.

For Figures, you may use an f like this:  f:Figure
$chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM,  qui...@airmail.net wrote:
 Check that the styles with numbering formats that fall between those
 tables are replicating the proper stream. Someone is either off a
 placeholder, or resetting your numbers.

 Scott

 Eva Whitley wrote:
 First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing
 both 81/2x11 and 11x17 pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11x17
 pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book.

 Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie
 efforts to fix.

 As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined
 for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format  (from the Numbering tab
 on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is
 Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ so the first
 table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the
 first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next
 table the Autonumber Format is
 Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ that should be
 labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table
 5.1-5-1  .

 Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2.
 The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table
 5.1-5-1  .
 The Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n 
   -n+

 Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how
 it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as
 unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old
 one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original
 location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new
 document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into
 the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in
 to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it.

 I'm truly stumped. What am I missing?



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RE: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Pinkham, Jim]

I just wrapped up the trial and did not encounter anything like this either.

Jim 

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Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:12 PM
To: Joseph
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

I haven't seen that, but each system is different.
You may want to make sure that your video card drivers are up to date...

Art

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redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Joseph panoptico...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have started testing FM 9 p230.  Over all, I like the new UI design.
 However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat.  When I 
 rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work 
 spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the 
 following ways.

 -Menus will start shaking and shifting around -UI elements bleed into 
 one another -the selection for user defined work spaces disappears 
 from the work space menu

 Has anyone else experienced problems like this??

 --
 Sincerely,

 Joseph Lorenzini
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RE: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[Matt Sullivan]

One of the main advantages of Art's suggested method should be that your
strings will contain less building blocks.

Since you are using $chapnum we know you are not using FM5.5 or earlier,
so your strings are likely overly complex.

For instance, your t: series will not require placeholders for all sections
and figures. The same holds true for your Sections (s:) series and your
Figures (f:) series.

They all will only need building blocks for the related sections within the
series.

It's a double bonus...less errors and less confusion!

 


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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:18 PM
To: Eva Whitley; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

Scott's idea is something I didn't notice when you published your numbering
strings.

Insert a letter in front of the string to specify a unique numbering stream
-- you can have 50+ of them, but it's best to make each type unique.
Specifying a specific stream ensures that other tags won't reset one
particular tag. For example, you could make your table string unique by
preceding it with a t: to make it:
t:Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ . Then save and
update.

For Figures, you may use an f like this:  f:Figure $chapnum.$volnum-n
  -n+

Art

Art Campbell
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  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM,  qui...@airmail.net wrote:
 Check that the styles with numbering formats that fall between those 
 tables are replicating the proper stream. Someone is either off a 
 placeholder, or resetting your numbers.

 Scott

 Eva Whitley wrote:
 First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document 
 containing both 81/2x11 and 11x17 pages. As suggested, I pulled out
the 11x17
 pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book.

 Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my 
 newbie efforts to fix.

 As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles 
 defined for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format  (from the 
 Numbering tab on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is Table 
 $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ so the first table 
 in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the 
 first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next 
 table the Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   
 -n+ that should be labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. 
 But instead it's coming out as Table
 5.1-5-1  .

 Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2.
 The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled 
 Table
 5.1-5-1  .
 The Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n 
 
   -n+

 Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, 
 how it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the 
 info as unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right 
 after the old one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back 
 into the original location I get the same problem. I've recreated the 
 tables into a new document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but 
 when I paste them into the original document--same problem. I've 
 copied the code and pasted in to the Autonumber Format text box, and that
hasn't fixed it.

 I'm truly stumped. What am I missing?



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Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Joseph]

Hi Art,

When you mentioned the video card, an idea occurred to me. I am using a Dell
lap top, which is hooked up to a dell flat screen monitor. The monitor's
highest resolution is 1680 by 1050 pixels, the lap top's highest resolution
is 1440 by 900 pixels. When I placed the FM 9 window in the lap top, no
issues occurred with the GUI, while on the monitor issues did occur.

Then, I reduced my monitor's resolution from 1680 by 1050 to 1440 by 900
(the same res as my monitor). Once I did that, the distortions to the FM 9
GUI stopped occurring. Apparently, my monitor's res had to match my lap
top's res, otherwise FM 9's ability to display the GUI is interfered with.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Sincerely,
Joe



On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.comwrote:

 I haven't seen that, but each system is different.
 You may want to make sure that your video card drivers are up to date...

 Art

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 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Joseph panoptico...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I have started testing FM 9 p230.  Over all, I like the new UI design.
  However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat.  When I
  rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work
  spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the
 following
  ways.
 
  -Menus will start shaking and shifting around
  -UI elements bleed into one another
  -the selection for user defined work spaces disappears from the work
 space
  menu
 
  Has anyone else experienced problems like this??
 
  --
  Sincerely,
 
  Joseph Lorenzini
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Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Joseph]

Hi Art,

Apparently, I spoke too soon. The GUI distortions started occurring at the
lower res on my monitor right after I sent out an email saying they didn't.
So I am not sure what is going on. However, it is still the case that FM 9's
GUI renders without any problem on my lap top's monitor.

Sincerely,
Joe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.comwrote:

 I haven't seen that, but each system is different.
 You may want to make sure that your video card drivers are up to date...

 Art

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  No disclaimers apply.
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 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Joseph panoptico...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I have started testing FM 9 p230.  Over all, I like the new UI design.
  However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat.  When I
  rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work
  spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the
 following
  ways.
 
  -Menus will start shaking and shifting around
  -UI elements bleed into one another
  -the selection for user defined work spaces disappears from the work
 space
  menu
 
  Has anyone else experienced problems like this??
 
  --
  Sincerely,
 
  Joseph Lorenzini
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RE: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Syed.Hosain]

Are you using the DVI connector or the VGA connector on the laptop (to
connect to the external monitor - which I assume is an LCD monitor)? If
not DVI, can you try that and see if the problem persists?

Also, have you tried switching from dual-screen mode (where the output
is on both screens) to single-screen on the external monitor?

Which laptop and graphics card is it, by the way?

Z

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Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:20 PM
To: Art Campbell; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

Hi Art,

Apparently, I spoke too soon. The GUI distortions started occurring at
the
lower res on my monitor right after I sent out an email saying they
didn't.
So I am not sure what is going on. However, it is still the case that FM
9's
GUI renders without any problem on my lap top's monitor.
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Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Joseph]

Hi Syed,

I did try switching to the single screen mode on the external monitor. It
had no affect. Also, I've noticed that the GUI distortions only occur when I
maximize the FM window and/or change the workspace while the FM window is
maximized. If the FM window isn't fully maximized, then the GUI distortions
do not occur when I change the workspaces.

Here are the specs.

-DVI connector
-Dell E228WFP LCD Monitor
-Lap top: Dell Latitude D630
-Graphics card: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135M

Thanks for the help,
Joe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:37 PM, syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:

 Are you using the DVI connector or the VGA connector on the laptop (to
 connect to the external monitor - which I assume is an LCD monitor)? If
 not DVI, can you try that and see if the problem persists?

 Also, have you tried switching from dual-screen mode (where the output
 is on both screens) to single-screen on the external monitor?

 Which laptop and graphics card is it, by the way?

 Z

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
 Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:20 PM
 To: Art Campbell; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

 Hi Art,

 Apparently, I spoke too soon. The GUI distortions started occurring at
 the
 lower res on my monitor right after I sent out an email saying they
 didn't.
 So I am not sure what is going on. However, it is still the case that FM
 9's
 GUI renders without any problem on my lap top's monitor.




-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini
Naperville, IL
309-319-4487
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RE: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Syed.Hosain]

I use a similar, albeit older, laptop - it is a Dell 820 with a nVidia
Quadro 120 graphics card and an external Dell 24 LCD (at 1920 x 1200)
and do not remember seeing these screen artifacts when I trialed FM 9.
Since my trial license has expired, I cannot test again ... L

 

One other thought perhaps: I do have 2GB of memory ... how much does
your laptop have? Since these graphics cards only have 256MB on board,
they have to use some system memory when displaying full-screen stuff
and if you do not have enough memory in your laptop, this may be
swapping to the disk and creating the artifacts you see. This is a SWAG
though!

 

Otherwise, I am at a loss to explain the problems ... sorry!

 

Z

 

From: jalo...@gmail.com [mailto:jalo...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 5:00 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net);
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

 

Hi Syed,

I did try switching to the single screen mode on the external monitor.
It had no affect. Also, I've noticed that the GUI distortions only occur
when I maximize the FM window and/or change the workspace while the FM
window is maximized. If the FM window isn't fully maximized, then the
GUI distortions do not occur when I change the workspaces.

Here are the specs.

-DVI connector 
-Dell E228WFP LCD Monitor
-Lap top: Dell Latitude D630
-Graphics card: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135M

Thanks for the help,
Joe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:37 PM, syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:

Are you using the DVI connector or the VGA connector on the laptop (to
connect to the external monitor - which I assume is an LCD monitor)? If
not DVI, can you try that and see if the problem persists?

Also, have you tried switching from dual-screen mode (where the output
is on both screens) to single-screen on the external monitor?

Which laptop and graphics card is it, by the way?

Z


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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:20 PM
To: Art Campbell; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

Hi Art,

Apparently, I spoke too soon. The GUI distortions started occurring at
the lower res on my monitor right after I sent out an email saying they
didn't. So I am not sure what is going on. However, it is still the case
that FM 9's GUI renders without any problem on my lap top's monitor.

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Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Joseph]

Hi Syed,

My laptop has 2 GB of memory. I have had previous issues with this lap top
being buggy, though nothing like this. I suppose it could all be related,
but who knows? I am just glad that it isn't a defect with the product
because the more I use the UI the more I love it.

Sincerely,
Joe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:57 PM, syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:

  I use a similar, albeit older, laptop – it is a Dell 820 with a nVidia
 Quadro 120 graphics card and an external Dell 24” LCD (at 1920 x 1200) and
 do not remember seeing these screen artifacts when I trialed FM 9. Since my
 trial license has expired, I cannot test again … L



 One other thought *perhaps*: I do have 2GB of memory … how much does your
 laptop have? Since these graphics cards only have 256MB on board, they have
 to use some system memory when displaying full-screen stuff and if you do
 not have enough memory in your laptop, this *may* be swapping to the disk
 and creating the artifacts you see. This is a SWAG though!



 Otherwise, I am at a loss to explain the problems ... sorry!



 Z



 *From:* jalo...@gmail.com [mailto:jalo...@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Joseph
 *Sent:* Monday, April 13, 2009 5:00 PM
 *To:* Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net);
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior



 Hi Syed,

 I did try switching to the single screen mode on the external monitor. It
 had no affect. Also, I've noticed that the GUI distortions only occur when I
 maximize the FM window and/or change the workspace while the FM window is
 maximized. If the FM window isn't fully maximized, then the GUI distortions
 do not occur when I change the workspaces.

 Here are the specs.

 -DVI connector
 -Dell E228WFP LCD Monitor
 -Lap top: Dell Latitude D630
 -Graphics card: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135M

 Thanks for the help,
 Joe

 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:37 PM, syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:

 Are you using the DVI connector or the VGA connector on the laptop (to connect
 to the external monitor - which I assume is an LCD monitor)? If not DVI,
 can you try that and see if the problem persists?

 Also, have you tried switching from dual-screen mode (where the output is
 on both screens) to single-screen on the external monitor?

 Which laptop and graphics card is it, by the way?

 Z


 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
 Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:20 PM
 To: Art Campbell; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

 Hi Art,

 Apparently, I spoke too soon. The GUI distortions started occurring at the 
 lower
 res on my monitor right after I sent out an email saying they didn't. So I
 am not sure what is going on. However, it is still the case that FM 9's GUI
 renders without any problem on my lap top's monitor.




-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini
Naperville, IL
309-319-4487
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Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[quills]

I would note, that while the series letter is very important, and will 
regularize the numbering stream, it seems likely that Eva is using a 
single stream in order to restart the numbering sequence at the start of 
each section/chapter without using a separate start style. If that is 
indeed the case, she should still use a single series identifier, but 
use it in all instances of numbering. Doing so will ensure that there 
aren't any radical burbs in numbering. I remember doing similar, though 
with a much simpler sequence stream. If the series ID is left off, then 
the behavior she mentions would occur.

Scott

Matt Sullivan wrote:
 One of the main advantages of Art's suggested method should be that your
 strings will contain less building blocks.

 Since you are using $chapnum we know you are not using FM5.5 or earlier,
 so your strings are likely overly complex.

 For instance, your t: series will not require placeholders for all sections
 and figures. The same holds true for your Sections (s:) series and your
 Figures (f:) series.

 They all will only need building blocks for the related sections within the
 series.

 It's a double bonus...less errors and less confusion!

  


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 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
 Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:18 PM
 To: Eva Whitley; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

 Scott's idea is something I didn't notice when you published your numbering
 strings.

 Insert a letter in front of the string to specify a unique numbering stream
 -- you can have 50+ of them, but it's best to make each type unique.
 Specifying a specific stream ensures that other tags won't reset one
 particular tag. For example, you could make your table string unique by
 preceding it with a t: to make it:
 t:Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ . Then save and
 update.

 For Figures, you may use an f like this:  f:Figure $chapnum.$volnum-n
   
   -n+
 

 Art

 Art Campbell
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 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM,  qui...@airmail.net wrote:
   
 Check that the styles with numbering formats that fall between those 
 tables are replicating the proper stream. Someone is either off a 
 placeholder, or resetting your numbers.

 Scott

 Eva Whitley wrote:
 
 First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document 
 containing both 81/2x11 and 11x17 pages. As suggested, I pulled out
   
 the 11x17
   
 pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book.

 Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my 
 newbie efforts to fix.

 As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles 
 defined for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format  (from the 
 Numbering tab on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is Table 
 $chapnum.$volnum-n   -n+ so the first table 
 in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the 
 first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next 
 table the Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n   
   
 -n+ that should be labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. 
 
 But instead it's coming out as Table
 5.1-5-1  .

 Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2.
 The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled 
 Table
 5.1-5-1  .
 The Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n 
   
 
 
   -n+

 Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, 
 how it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the 
 info as unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right 
 after the old one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back 
 into the original location I get the same problem. I've recreated the 
 tables into a new document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but 
 when I paste them into the original document--same problem. I've 
 copied the code and pasted in to the Autonumber Format text box, and that
   
 hasn't fixed it.
   
 I'm truly stumped. What am I missing?


   
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Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[Eva Whitley]

First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing 
both 81/2"x11" and 11"x17" pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11"x17" 
pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book.

Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie 
efforts to fix.

As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined 
for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format  (from the Numbering tab 
on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is
Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- so the first 
table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the 
first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next 
table the Autonumber Format is
Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- that should be 
labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table 
5.1-5-1  .

Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2. 
The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table 
5.1-5-1  .
The Autonumber Format is Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< 
 >< >-

Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how 
it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as 
unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old 
one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original 
location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new 
document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into 
the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in 
to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it.

I'm truly stumped. What am I missing?

-- 
Eva Whitley, ETOSS Contract
301-713-1833x191
SSMC-2, 16129

Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[Art Campbell]

In the book file, select each chapter, then right click and select
Numbering > Paragraphs.
Is it set to increment?

And did you update and save the book before checking the table
numbering, to force a refresh?

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Eva Whitley  wrote:
> First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing
> both 81/2"x11" and 11"x17" pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11"x17"
> pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book.
>
> Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie
> efforts to fix.
>
> As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined
> for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format ?(from the Numbering tab
> on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is
> Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- so the first
> table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the
> first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next
> table the Autonumber Format is
> Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- that should be
> labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table
> 5.1-5-1 ?.
>
> Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2.
> The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table
> 5.1-5-1 ?.
> The Autonumber Format is Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< ><
> ?>< >-
>
> Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how
> it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as
> unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old
> one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original
> location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new
> document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into
> the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in
> to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it.
>
> I'm truly stumped. What am I missing?
>
> --
> Eva Whitley, ETOSS Contract
> 301-713-1833x191
> SSMC-2, 16129
>
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Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[qui...@airmail.net]

Check that the styles with numbering formats that fall between those 
tables are replicating the proper stream. Someone is either off a 
placeholder, or resetting your numbers.

Scott

Eva Whitley wrote:
> First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing 
> both 81/2"x11" and 11"x17" pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11"x17" 
> pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book.
>
> Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie 
> efforts to fix.
>
> As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined 
> for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format  (from the Numbering tab 
> on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is
> Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- so the first 
> table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the 
> first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next 
> table the Autonumber Format is
> Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- that should be 
> labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table 
> 5.1-5-1  .
>
> Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2. 
> The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table 
> 5.1-5-1  .
> The Autonumber Format is Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< 
>  >< >-
>
> Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how 
> it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as 
> unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old 
> one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original 
> location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new 
> document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into 
> the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in 
> to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it.
>
> I'm truly stumped. What am I missing?
>
>   

FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Joseph]

Hi all,

I have started testing FM 9 p230.  Over all, I like the new UI design.
However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat.  When I
rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work
spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the following
ways.

-Menus will start shaking and shifting around
-UI elements bleed into one another
-the selection for user defined work spaces disappears from the work space
menu

Has anyone else experienced problems like this??

-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini

FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Art Campbell]

I haven't seen that, but each system is different.
You may want to make sure that your video card drivers are up to date...

Art

Art Campbell
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Joseph  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have started testing FM 9 p230. ?Over all, I like the new UI design.
> However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat. ?When I
> rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work
> spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the following
> ways.
>
> -Menus will start shaking and shifting around
> -UI elements bleed into one another
> -the selection for user defined work spaces disappears from the work space
> menu
>
> Has anyone else experienced problems like this??
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Joseph Lorenzini
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Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[Art Campbell]

Scott's idea is something I didn't notice when you published your
numbering strings.

Insert a letter in front of the string to specify a unique numbering
stream -- you can have 50+ of them, but it's best to make each type
unique. Specifying a specific stream ensures that other tags won't
reset one particular tag. For example, you could make your table
string unique by preceding it with a "t:" to make it:
t:Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- . Then save
and update.

For Figures, you may use an f like this:  f:Figure
<$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >-

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM,   wrote:
> Check that the styles with numbering formats that fall between those
> tables are replicating the proper stream. Someone is either off a
> placeholder, or resetting your numbers.
>
> Scott
>
> Eva Whitley wrote:
>> First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing
>> both 81/2"x11" and 11"x17" pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11"x17"
>> pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book.
>>
>> Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie
>> efforts to fix.
>>
>> As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined
>> for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format ?(from the Numbering tab
>> on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is
>> Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- so the first
>> table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the
>> first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next
>> table the Autonumber Format is
>> Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- that should be
>> labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table
>> 5.1-5-1 ?.
>>
>> Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2.
>> The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table
>> 5.1-5-1 ?.
>> The Autonumber Format is Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< ><
>> ?>< >-
>>
>> Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how
>> it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as
>> unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old
>> one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original
>> location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new
>> document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into
>> the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in
>> to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it.
>>
>> I'm truly stumped. What am I missing?
>>
>>
>
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FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Pinkham, Jim]

I just wrapped up the trial and did not encounter anything like this either.

Jim 

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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:12 PM
To: Joseph
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

I haven't seen that, but each system is different.
You may want to make sure that your video card drivers are up to date...

Art

Art Campbell
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Joseph  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have started testing FM 9 p230. ?Over all, I like the new UI design.
> However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat. ?When I 
> rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work 
> spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the 
> following ways.
>
> -Menus will start shaking and shifting around -UI elements bleed into 
> one another -the selection for user defined work spaces disappears 
> from the work space menu
>
> Has anyone else experienced problems like this??
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Joseph Lorenzini
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Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[Matt Sullivan]

One of the main advantages of Art's suggested method should be that your
strings will contain less building blocks.

Since you are using <$chapnum> we know you are not using FM5.5 or earlier,
so your strings are likely overly complex.

For instance, your t: series will not require placeholders for all sections
and figures. The same holds true for your Sections (s:) series and your
Figures (f:) series.

They all will only need building blocks for the related sections within the
series.

It's a double bonus...less errors and less confusion!




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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:18 PM
To: Eva Whitley; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

Scott's idea is something I didn't notice when you published your numbering
strings.

Insert a letter in front of the string to specify a unique numbering stream
-- you can have 50+ of them, but it's best to make each type unique.
Specifying a specific stream ensures that other tags won't reset one
particular tag. For example, you could make your table string unique by
preceding it with a "t:" to make it:
t:Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- . Then save and
update.

For Figures, you may use an f like this:  f:Figure <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-<
>< >< >< >< >< >< >-

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM,   wrote:
> Check that the styles with numbering formats that fall between those 
> tables are replicating the proper stream. Someone is either off a 
> placeholder, or resetting your numbers.
>
> Scott
>
> Eva Whitley wrote:
>> First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document 
>> containing both 81/2"x11" and 11"x17" pages. As suggested, I pulled out
the 11"x17"
>> pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book.
>>
>> Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my 
>> newbie efforts to fix.
>>
>> As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles 
>> defined for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format ?(from the 
>> Numbering tab on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is Table 
>> <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- so the first table 
>> in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the 
>> first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next 
>> table the Autonumber Format is Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< 
>> >< >< >< >< >- that should be labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. 
>> But instead it's coming out as Table
>> 5.1-5-1 ?.
>>
>> Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2.
>> The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled 
>> Table
>> 5.1-5-1 ?.
>> The Autonumber Format is Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< 
>> ><
>> ?>< >-
>>
>> Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, 
>> how it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the 
>> info as unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right 
>> after the old one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back 
>> into the original location I get the same problem. I've recreated the 
>> tables into a new document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but 
>> when I paste them into the original document--same problem. I've 
>> copied the code and pasted in to the Autonumber Format text box, and that
hasn't fixed it.
>>
>> I'm truly stumped. What am I missing?
>>
>>
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FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Joseph]

Hi Art,

When you mentioned the video card, an idea occurred to me. I am using a Dell
lap top, which is hooked up to a dell flat screen monitor. The monitor's
highest resolution is 1680 by 1050 pixels, the lap top's highest resolution
is 1440 by 900 pixels. When I placed the FM 9 window in the lap top, no
issues occurred with the GUI, while on the monitor issues did occur.

Then, I reduced my monitor's resolution from 1680 by 1050 to 1440 by 900
(the same res as my monitor). Once I did that, the distortions to the FM 9
GUI stopped occurring. Apparently, my monitor's res had to match my lap
top's res, otherwise FM 9's ability to display the GUI is interfered with.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Sincerely,
Joe



On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Art Campbell wrote:

> I haven't seen that, but each system is different.
> You may want to make sure that your video card drivers are up to date...
>
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>   DoD 358
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Joseph  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have started testing FM 9 p230.  Over all, I like the new UI design.
> > However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat.  When I
> > rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work
> > spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the
> following
> > ways.
> >
> > -Menus will start shaking and shifting around
> > -UI elements bleed into one another
> > -the selection for user defined work spaces disappears from the work
> space
> > menu
> >
> > Has anyone else experienced problems like this??
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Joseph Lorenzini
> > ___
> >
> >
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>



-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini
Naperville, IL
309-319-4487

FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Joseph]

Hi Art,

Apparently, I spoke too soon. The GUI distortions started occurring at the
lower res on my monitor right after I sent out an email saying they didn't.
So I am not sure what is going on. However, it is still the case that FM 9's
GUI renders without any problem on my lap top's monitor.

Sincerely,
Joe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Art Campbell wrote:

> I haven't seen that, but each system is different.
> You may want to make sure that your video card drivers are up to date...
>
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>   DoD 358
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Joseph  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have started testing FM 9 p230.  Over all, I like the new UI design.
> > However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat.  When I
> > rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work
> > spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the
> following
> > ways.
> >
> > -Menus will start shaking and shifting around
> > -UI elements bleed into one another
> > -the selection for user defined work spaces disappears from the work
> space
> > menu
> >
> > Has anyone else experienced problems like this??
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Joseph Lorenzini
> > ___
> >
> >
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>



-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini
Naperville, IL
309-319-4487

FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Are you using the DVI connector or the VGA connector on the laptop (to
connect to the external monitor - which I assume is an LCD monitor)? If
not DVI, can you try that and see if the problem persists?

Also, have you tried switching from dual-screen mode (where the output
is on both screens) to single-screen on the external monitor?

Which laptop and graphics card is it, by the way?

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:20 PM
To: Art Campbell; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

Hi Art,

Apparently, I spoke too soon. The GUI distortions started occurring at
the
lower res on my monitor right after I sent out an email saying they
didn't.
So I am not sure what is going on. However, it is still the case that FM
9's
GUI renders without any problem on my lap top's monitor.

FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Joseph]

Hi Syed,

I did try switching to the single screen mode on the external monitor. It
had no affect. Also, I've noticed that the GUI distortions only occur when I
maximize the FM window and/or change the workspace while the FM window is
maximized. If the FM window isn't fully maximized, then the GUI distortions
do not occur when I change the workspaces.

Here are the specs.

-DVI connector
-Dell E228WFP LCD Monitor
-Lap top: Dell Latitude D630
-Graphics card: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135M

Thanks for the help,
Joe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:37 PM,  wrote:

> Are you using the DVI connector or the VGA connector on the laptop (to
> connect to the external monitor - which I assume is an LCD monitor)? If
> not DVI, can you try that and see if the problem persists?
>
> Also, have you tried switching from dual-screen mode (where the output
> is on both screens) to single-screen on the external monitor?
>
> Which laptop and graphics card is it, by the way?
>
> Z
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:20 PM
> To: Art Campbell; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior
>
> Hi Art,
>
> Apparently, I spoke too soon. The GUI distortions started occurring at
> the
> lower res on my monitor right after I sent out an email saying they
> didn't.
> So I am not sure what is going on. However, it is still the case that FM
> 9's
> GUI renders without any problem on my lap top's monitor.
>



-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini
Naperville, IL
309-319-4487

FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

I use a similar, albeit older, laptop - it is a Dell 820 with a nVidia
Quadro 120 graphics card and an external Dell 24" LCD (at 1920 x 1200)
and do not remember seeing these screen artifacts when I trialed FM 9.
Since my trial license has expired, I cannot test again ... L



One other thought perhaps: I do have 2GB of memory ... how much does
your laptop have? Since these graphics cards only have 256MB on board,
they have to use some system memory when displaying full-screen stuff
and if you do not have enough memory in your laptop, this may be
swapping to the disk and creating the artifacts you see. This is a SWAG
though!



Otherwise, I am at a loss to explain the problems ... sorry!



Z



From: jaloren at gmail.com [mailto:jalo...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 5:00 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net);
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior



Hi Syed,

I did try switching to the single screen mode on the external monitor.
It had no affect. Also, I've noticed that the GUI distortions only occur
when I maximize the FM window and/or change the workspace while the FM
window is maximized. If the FM window isn't fully maximized, then the
GUI distortions do not occur when I change the workspaces.

Here are the specs.

-DVI connector 
-Dell E228WFP LCD Monitor
-Lap top: Dell Latitude D630
-Graphics card: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135M

Thanks for the help,
Joe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:37 PM,  wrote:

Are you using the DVI connector or the VGA connector on the laptop (to
connect to the external monitor - which I assume is an LCD monitor)? If
not DVI, can you try that and see if the problem persists?

Also, have you tried switching from dual-screen mode (where the output
is on both screens) to single-screen on the external monitor?

Which laptop and graphics card is it, by the way?

Z


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:20 PM
To: Art Campbell; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

Hi Art,

Apparently, I spoke too soon. The GUI distortions started occurring at
the lower res on my monitor right after I sent out an email saying they
didn't. So I am not sure what is going on. However, it is still the case
that FM 9's GUI renders without any problem on my lap top's monitor.

FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Joseph]

Hi Syed,

My laptop has 2 GB of memory. I have had previous issues with this lap top
being buggy, though nothing like this. I suppose it could all be related,
but who knows? I am just glad that it isn't a defect with the product
because the more I use the UI the more I love it.

Sincerely,
Joe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:57 PM,  wrote:

>  I use a similar, albeit older, laptop ? it is a Dell 820 with a nVidia
> Quadro 120 graphics card and an external Dell 24? LCD (at 1920 x 1200) and
> do not remember seeing these screen artifacts when I trialed FM 9. Since my
> trial license has expired, I cannot test again ? L
>
>
>
> One other thought *perhaps*: I do have 2GB of memory ? how much does your
> laptop have? Since these graphics cards only have 256MB on board, they have
> to use some system memory when displaying full-screen stuff and if you do
> not have enough memory in your laptop, this *may* be swapping to the disk
> and creating the artifacts you see. This is a SWAG though!
>
>
>
> Otherwise, I am at a loss to explain the problems ... sorry!
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> *From:* jaloren at gmail.com [mailto:jaloren at gmail.com] *On Behalf Of 
> *Joseph
> *Sent:* Monday, April 13, 2009 5:00 PM
> *To:* Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net);
> framers at lists.frameusers.com
> *Subject:* Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior
>
>
>
> Hi Syed,
>
> I did try switching to the single screen mode on the external monitor. It
> had no affect. Also, I've noticed that the GUI distortions only occur when I
> maximize the FM window and/or change the workspace while the FM window is
> maximized. If the FM window isn't fully maximized, then the GUI distortions
> do not occur when I change the workspaces.
>
> Here are the specs.
>
> -DVI connector
> -Dell E228WFP LCD Monitor
> -Lap top: Dell Latitude D630
> -Graphics card: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135M
>
> Thanks for the help,
> Joe
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:37 PM,  wrote:
>
> Are you using the DVI connector or the VGA connector on the laptop (to connect
> to the external monitor - which I assume is an LCD monitor)? If not DVI,
> can you try that and see if the problem persists?
>
> Also, have you tried switching from dual-screen mode (where the output is
> on both screens) to single-screen on the external monitor?
>
> Which laptop and graphics card is it, by the way?
>
> Z
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:20 PM
> To: Art Campbell; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior
>
> Hi Art,
>
> Apparently, I spoke too soon. The GUI distortions started occurring at the 
> lower
> res on my monitor right after I sent out an email saying they didn't. So I
> am not sure what is going on. However, it is still the case that FM 9's GUI
> renders without any problem on my lap top's monitor.
>



-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini
Naperville, IL
309-319-4487

Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[qui...@airmail.net]

I would note, that while the series letter is very important, and will 
regularize the numbering stream, it seems likely that Eva is using a 
single stream in order to restart the numbering sequence at the start of 
each section/chapter without using a separate start style. If that is 
indeed the case, she should still use a single series identifier, but 
use it in all instances of numbering. Doing so will ensure that there 
aren't any radical burbs in numbering. I remember doing similar, though 
with a much simpler sequence stream. If the series ID is left off, then 
the behavior she mentions would occur.

Scott

Matt Sullivan wrote:
> One of the main advantages of Art's suggested method should be that your
> strings will contain less building blocks.
>
> Since you are using <$chapnum> we know you are not using FM5.5 or earlier,
> so your strings are likely overly complex.
>
> For instance, your t: series will not require placeholders for all sections
> and figures. The same holds true for your Sections (s:) series and your
> Figures (f:) series.
>
> They all will only need building blocks for the related sections within the
> series.
>
> It's a double bonus...less errors and less confusion!
>
>  
>
>
> -Matt
>
> Matt Sullivan
> GRAFIX Training
>
> matt at roundpeg.com
> www.roundpeg.com
> Office 714 960-6840
> Cell 714 585-2335
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:18 PM
> To: Eva Whitley; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
>
> Scott's idea is something I didn't notice when you published your numbering
> strings.
>
> Insert a letter in front of the string to specify a unique numbering stream
> -- you can have 50+ of them, but it's best to make each type unique.
> Specifying a specific stream ensures that other tags won't reset one
> particular tag. For example, you could make your table string unique by
> preceding it with a "t:" to make it:
> t:Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- . Then save and
> update.
>
> For Figures, you may use an f like this:  f:Figure <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-<
>   
>> < >< >< >< >< >< >-
>> 
>
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
>art.campbell at gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
> a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>   No disclaimers apply.
>DoD 358
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM,   wrote:
>   
>> Check that the styles with numbering formats that fall between those 
>> tables are replicating the proper stream. Someone is either off a 
>> placeholder, or resetting your numbers.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> Eva Whitley wrote:
>> 
>>> First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document 
>>> containing both 81/2"x11" and 11"x17" pages. As suggested, I pulled out
>>>   
> the 11"x17"
>   
>>> pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book.
>>>
>>> Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my 
>>> newbie efforts to fix.
>>>
>>> As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles 
>>> defined for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format  (from the 
>>> Numbering tab on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is Table 
>>> <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< >< >< >- so the first table 
>>> in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the 
>>> first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next 
>>> table the Autonumber Format is Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< 
>>>   
 < >< >< >< >- that should be labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. 
 
>>> But instead it's coming out as Table
>>> 5.1-5-1  .
>>>
>>> Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2.
>>> The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled 
>>> Table
>>> 5.1-5-1  .
>>> The Autonumber Format is Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-< >< >< >< >< 
>>>   
 <
 
>>>  >< >-
>>>
>>> Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, 
>>> how it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the 
>>> info as unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right 
>>> after the old one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back 
>>> into the original location I get the same problem. I've recreated the 
>>> tables into a new document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but 
>>> when I paste them into the original document--same problem. I've 
>>> copied the code and pasted in to the Autonumber Format text box, and that
>>>   
> hasn't fixed it.
>   
>>> I'm truly