Re: Cross-references and hyperlinks: jump back to target?

2007-07-13 Thread Rick Quatro

Hi Yves,

For links within the same document, use Esc v P (view Previous). For links 
to a different document, you can hit Alt+Tab to go back to the link document 
(as long as it is still open).


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I think this question has been asked before: is there a way to jump back to
the target of a cross-reference or hypertext link (opposite of Go to
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New formats for a TOC

2007-07-13 Thread Gunnar Carlsson

Hi,

I have a book with a number of chapters. I have created a TOC, and it 
looks OK.
However, I have now added a new format, and I would like text with 
this format in the TOC.


Is there any way I can add a format to the list of formats that 
should be in the TOC?  In Word, you can afterwards add or delete any 
number of formats from the table of contents.


Any idea would be appreciated.

Kind regards

Gunnar Carlsson


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Re: New formats for a TOC

2007-07-13 Thread Yves Barbion

Hi Gunnar,

you can do this as follows:

  1. Go to the book file.
  2. Right-click the TOC.
  3. Choose *Set Up Table of Contents*.
  4. Move the new format to the Include list.
  5. Click *Set*.
  6. Click *Update*.

Kind regards

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Gunnar Carlsson wrote:

Hi,

I have a book with a number of chapters. I have created a TOC, and it 
looks OK.
However, I have now added a new format, and I would like text with 
this format in the TOC.


Is there any way I can add a format to the list of formats that 
should be in the TOC?  In Word, you can afterwards add or delete any 
number of formats from the table of contents.


Any idea would be appreciated.

Kind regards

Gunnar Carlsson


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Re: Cross-references and hyperlinks: jump back to target?

2007-07-13 Thread mathieu jacquet
Or tag your target reference with a previouslink hypertext tag to get back 
to the source with a click?


Yours,
Mathieu Jacquet



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Subject: Re: Cross-references and hyperlinks: jump back to target?
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:30:54 +0200

Right on for the Esc+v+P, but I think you mean Ctrl+tab for different 
documents, right.


Thanks Rick.

Kind regards


Yves Barbion


Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Yves,

For links within the same document, use Esc v P (view Previous). For links 
to a different document, you can hit Alt+Tab to go back to the link 
document (as long as it is still open).


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


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FM issue resolved, problem weith WebWorks

2007-07-13 Thread Garnier Garnier
Hello All,
   
  Thanks to all who have responded to the query. It is sincerely appreciated.
   
  I could right align the numbered list in FM and they seem perfect in the PDFs.
   
  The problem is that the generated html output does not give the required 
result. The single digit in the WebWorks output still appears to be left 
aligned due to which the body text following the single and double-digit 
numbers have moved towards the right.  I tried fixing this in the Basic 
Paragraph option in the Style Designer, but in vain. Am not familiar with the 
macros so do not know whether that needs to be modified. 
   
  Any help?
   
  Regards,
  Garnier

   
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RE: FM issue resolved, problem weith WebWorks

2007-07-13 Thread Combs, Richard
Garnier Garnier wrote:

   I could right align the numbered list in FM and they seem 
 perfect in the PDFs.

   The problem is that the generated html output does not give 
 the required result. The single digit in the WebWorks output 
 still appears to be left aligned due to which the body text 
 following the single and double-digit numbers have moved 
 towards the right.  I tried fixing this in the Basic 
 Paragraph option in the Style Designer, but in vain. Am not 
 familiar with the macros so do not know whether that needs to 
 be modified. 

Ah, HTML! You can't align things with tabs in FM and have it translate
to HTML -- HTML doesn't respect white space (which includes tabs),
collapsing it all down to a single space. 

I'm no HTML guru, but I don't think there's any way to right-align the
numbers in an HTML ordered list (li items in an ol). I think you'd
have to convert from an ordered list to a table, or maybe do the numbers
and following text as separate div tags with CSS positioning. 

Way too complex for such a trivial matter, if you ask me. We've all
lived with left-aligned numbered lists in Web pages for a long time now.
Your readers can live with it a bit longer. :-)

Richard


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Slightly OT: A happy announcement

2007-07-13 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi FrameFolks,

As some of you might remember, a few weeks ago, I posted some messages to
the list regarding my company's research into changing from Word to either
ArborText or Structured FM.  I received several excellent responses to my
questions and created a 4-page spreadsheet comparing the two products.
Using this information, and after several weeks of discussions with our
parent company in Japan, we decided to use Sructured FrameMaker.

Anyway, I wanted to write and say thank you to all those who took the time
to write and provide information.  You were most helpful and I really do
appreciate your efforts.

Best regards,

Diane Gaskill
Lead Writer, Hitachi Data Systems

(Looks like I'll be staying on this list for another 14 years. :-)


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RE: Slightly OT: A happy announcement

2007-07-13 Thread Combs, Richard
Diane Gaskill wrote:
 
 As some of you might remember, a few weeks ago, I posted some 
 messages to the list regarding my company's research into 
 changing from Word to either ArborText or Structured FM.  I 
 received several excellent responses to my questions and 
 created a 4-page spreadsheet comparing the two products.
 Using this information, and after several weeks of 
 discussions with our parent company in Japan, we decided to 
 use Sructured FrameMaker.

Congratulations! Now, if you're really living right, Adobe will release
FM 8 in time for you all to jump right into that. :-)

Richard


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RE: Slightly OT: A happy announcement

2007-07-13 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi Richard,

Believe it or not, we have talked about exactly what you suggested, but we 
don't know how long that will be until the next version of FM is released, and 
se need to get started.  So we're getting 7.2 and will upgrade whenever the 
next version of FM comes out.  I'm Beta testing it, incidentally, and I 
kinardley wait for it to be available for the rest of my team.  Adobe did a 
good job with it. (But I'm on an NDA and I can't even say if it's called FM8 or 
not.)

Kinardley?  Oh, that's just a name I got from my car.  It's a Rolls-Kinardley.
Rolls down the one hill, kinardley get up the next.

Happy Friday. :-)

Diane

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Subject: RE: Slightly OT: A happy announcement

Diane Gaskill wrote:
 
 As some of you might remember, a few weeks ago, I posted some 
 messages to the list regarding my company's research into 
 changing from Word to either ArborText or Structured FM.  I 
 received several excellent responses to my questions and 
 created a 4-page spreadsheet comparing the two products.
 Using this information, and after several weeks of 
 discussions with our parent company in Japan, we decided to 
 use Sructured FrameMaker.

Congratulations! Now, if you're really living right, Adobe will release
FM 8 in time for you all to jump right into that. :-)

Richard


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Any way to key out of a selected table?

2007-07-13 Thread Karen Mardahl
Hi

About shortcuts to key out of a table

The Alt t p shortcut does indeed come with the Toolbar Express plug-in
from Shlomo Peretz at microtype.com.
I was unsure whether this came with Rick Quatro's TableCleaner, but my
TE user guide confirmed it's from Shlomo.

Hurrah for these brilliant plug-ins. How can anyone live without them? :-)

For those with the bare bones, I guess you'll have to use Esc t shift
i (to get uppercase I). Works fine even with these plug-ins installed,
so I guess that is a standard Frame shortcut.

So the next question is:

>>> How do you get back into the table? (Without having to do a Find
of any kind, just a simple hop?)

And one more tip: If you have FrameScript, get the script for
navigating in tables with arrows from itl.de. No more tabbing. Just
use the arrows to hop up, down, left, or right. Lovely.

regards, Karen Mardahl, a happy user of TE and TC and the scripts from
the talented script writers at itl.de!



New formats for a TOC

2007-07-13 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Gunnar,

you can do this as follows:

   1. Go to the book file.
   2. Right-click the TOC.
   3. Choose *Set Up Table of Contents*.
   4. Move the new format to the Include list.
   5. Click *Set*.
   6. Click *Update*.

Kind regards

Yves Barbion 
Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor


Scripto bvba
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Belgium
T: +32 494 12 01 89
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Gunnar Carlsson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a book with a number of chapters. I have created a TOC, and it 
> looks OK.
> However, I have now added a new format, and I would like text with 
> this format in the TOC.
>
> Is there any way I can "add" a format to the list of formats that 
> should be in the TOC?  In Word, you can afterwards add or delete any 
> number of formats from the table of contents.
>
> Any idea would be appreciated.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Gunnar Carlsson
>
>
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Cross-references and hyperlinks: jump back to target?

2007-07-13 Thread Yves Barbion
I think this question has been asked before: is there a way to jump back to
the "target" of a cross-reference or hypertext link (opposite of "Go to
Source")?



Cross-references and hyperlinks: jump back to target?

2007-07-13 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Yves,

For links within the same document, use Esc v P (view Previous). For links 
to a different document, you can hit Alt+Tab to go back to the link document 
(as long as it is still open).

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


>I think this question has been asked before: is there a way to jump back to
> the "target" of a cross-reference or hypertext link (opposite of "Go to
> Source")?
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Cross-references and hyperlinks: jump back to target?

2007-07-13 Thread Yves Barbion
Right on for the Esc+v+P, but I think you mean Ctrl+tab for different 
documents, right.

Thanks Rick.

Kind regards


Yves Barbion 


Rick Quatro wrote:
> Hi Yves,
>
> For links within the same document, use Esc v P (view Previous). For 
> links to a different document, you can hit Alt+Tab to go back to the 
> link document (as long as it is still open).
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com
>
>
>> I think this question has been asked before: is there a way to jump 
>> back to
>> the "target" of a cross-reference or hypertext link (opposite of "Go to
>> Source")?
>> ___
>
>



Cross-references and hyperlinks: jump back to target?

2007-07-13 Thread mathieu jacquet
Or tag your target reference with a "previouslink" hypertext tag to get back 
to the source with a click?

Yours,
Mathieu Jacquet


>From: Yves Barbion 
>To: Rick Quatro 
>CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: Cross-references and hyperlinks: jump back to target?
>Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:30:54 +0200
>
>Right on for the Esc+v+P, but I think you mean Ctrl+tab for different 
>documents, right.
>
>Thanks Rick.
>
>Kind regards
>
>
>Yves Barbion
>
>
>Rick Quatro wrote:
>>Hi Yves,
>>
>>For links within the same document, use Esc v P (view Previous). For links 
>>to a different document, you can hit Alt+Tab to go back to the link 
>>document (as long as it is still open).
>>
>>Rick Quatro
>>Carmen Publishing
>>585-659-8267
>>www.frameexpert.com
>>
>>
>>>I think this question has been asked before: is there a way to jump back 
>>>to
>>>the "target" of a cross-reference or hypertext link (opposite of "Go to
>>>Source")?
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FM issue resolved, problem weith WebWorks

2007-07-13 Thread Garnier Garnier
Hello All,

  Thanks to all who have responded to the query. It is sincerely appreciated.

  I could right align the numbered list in FM and they seem perfect in the PDFs.

  The problem is that the generated html output does not give the required 
result. The single digit in the WebWorks output still appears to be left 
aligned due to which the body text following the single and double-digit 
numbers have moved towards the right.  I tried fixing this in the Basic 
Paragraph option in the Style Designer, but in vain. Am not familiar with the 
macros so do not know whether that needs to be modified. 

  Any help?

  Regards,
  Garnier


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FM issue resolved, problem weith WebWorks

2007-07-13 Thread Combs, Richard
Garnier Garnier wrote:

>   I could right align the numbered list in FM and they seem 
> perfect in the PDFs.
>
>   The problem is that the generated html output does not give 
> the required result. The single digit in the WebWorks output 
> still appears to be left aligned due to which the body text 
> following the single and double-digit numbers have moved 
> towards the right.  I tried fixing this in the Basic 
> Paragraph option in the Style Designer, but in vain. Am not 
> familiar with the macros so do not know whether that needs to 
> be modified. 

Ah, HTML! You can't align things with tabs in FM and have it translate
to HTML -- HTML doesn't respect white space (which includes tabs),
collapsing it all down to a single space. 

I'm no HTML guru, but I don't think there's any way to right-align the
numbers in an HTML ordered list ( items in an ). I think you'd
have to convert from an ordered list to a table, or maybe do the numbers
and following text as separate  tags with CSS positioning. 

Way too complex for such a trivial matter, if you ask me. We've all
lived with left-aligned numbered lists in Web pages for a long time now.
Your readers can live with it a bit longer. :-)

Richard


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Slightly OT: A happy announcement

2007-07-13 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi FrameFolks,

As some of you might remember, a few weeks ago, I posted some messages to
the list regarding my company's research into changing from Word to either
ArborText or Structured FM.  I received several excellent responses to my
questions and created a 4-page spreadsheet comparing the two products.
Using this information, and after several weeks of discussions with our
parent company in Japan, we decided to use Sructured FrameMaker.

Anyway, I wanted to write and say thank you to all those who took the time
to write and provide information.  You were most helpful and I really do
appreciate your efforts.

Best regards,

Diane Gaskill
Lead Writer, Hitachi Data Systems

(Looks like I'll be staying on this list for another 14 years. :-)





Slightly OT: A happy announcement

2007-07-13 Thread Combs, Richard
Diane Gaskill wrote:

> As some of you might remember, a few weeks ago, I posted some 
> messages to the list regarding my company's research into 
> changing from Word to either ArborText or Structured FM.  I 
> received several excellent responses to my questions and 
> created a 4-page spreadsheet comparing the two products.
> Using this information, and after several weeks of 
> discussions with our parent company in Japan, we decided to 
> use Sructured FrameMaker.

Congratulations! Now, if you're really living right, Adobe will release
FM 8 in time for you all to jump right into that. :-)

Richard


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