lest we forget
It seems that our history goes back further than you thought. From David Lyons' coffee-table book Scotland, p. 184, reproduced as printed, but for the elisions: ...the event which most shaped Highlanders were the Highland Clearances, which started in the late 18th and continued into the early 19th century...this was when ambitious landowners cleared the land of people in favor of sheep farming...the upshot was that thousands of poor framers...were thrown off their ancestral lands or out of their townships to fend for themselves with little or no resources to help them. Tout ca change, if you're on a Mac. Graeme Forbes ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Pop-ups in Generated PDF
Lin, You wrote: I have to publish a HUGE flowchart for a customer that has several levels of data within each square. In order to fit the entire chart on one page (and have the text larger than 6 pt), I want to only display one or two levels of data and then use hypertext commands (probably popup menus, even though the menu options won't lead the user anywhere; they'll just display the next level of data) to allow the user to click an item and show the rest of the data that falls below that item. I have the hypertext command working in FrameMaker (I can Ctrl-Alt-right-click the text flow and see the next level of data in a popup menu), but nothing's happening in the PDF. (Yes, I'm generating Acrobat data when I create the PS file.) So, what am I missing? And why do I have to right-click instead of left-click like usual to test the hyperlink? AND does anyone have a better way to go about this than hypertext commands? I'm all ears. I'm using FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows, unstructured for now but can go structured if necessary. FrameMaker does not export the functionality you are interested in to PDF (or to other online formats); these hypertext commands only work in FrameMaker (view-only documents or with Control-Alt-click). If the content is relatively stable, you may try placing the the additional information in a PDF file using Acrobat Professional. Sample files demonstrating PDF options are available at: * http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF08.html (Display additional information without switching to a different page/file) * http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF07.html (Use popup menus to display additional, context-related choices) All of the samples were authored entirely in FrameMaker and distilled with the FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers add-on (or its extensions), with no post-creation operations in Acrobat; however, for stable content you may also add these items in the PDF manually. Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker FrameMaker/Acrobat training consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Color Definition Error Messages in FM8
Hi, Has anyone gotten the following error message when generating a book and Frame files that were originally Frame 7.2: Color definition for fm_gen_188453 is inconsistent. Updating the book worked fine in Frame 7.2. I checked my Frame 8 files and there are quite a number of fm_gen# color definitions that were not there before. What are they from? Is this a Frame 8 bug? Are there any work arounds? Thanks, Nancy Adams ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Combining side-heads and full-span paras in the same document
Steve Rickaby wrote: When I try the first method, it fails to work despite everything appearing to be correct. I think this is because the sidehead property is a property of the flow [which I seem to remember reading here recently], so that even though the full-span master pages have been applied, FrameMaker ignores their side-head settings. Is there a way around this so that I can get method a. to work, or do I have to go with the more conceptually messy method b.? [Or is there a method c?] Yep, I posted about this on Aug. 2, so I'll just quote myself: It's not clear from the FM interface (where you control side heads in the text frame properties dialog), but side heads are a property of the _flow_, not of the frame. IOW, if your flow has side heads on, then all text frames in that flow will have a side head. The workaround for your situation is to modify the text frames on the custom master pages you're using so that the side heads aren't evident. Set the width and gap to some small value (and adjust total text frame width accordingly), and maybe put the tiny side head on the right so it doesn't affect the left alignment of headings that straddle the side head. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANN: FrameMaker Read/Write Rules training -- class in September
Hello Framers: We're holding a Structured FrameMaker Read/Write Rules class soon! This two day class focuses on writing rules that will get your FrameMaker structured application working the way you need it to work. The training will be held September 18-19 in Raleigh, NC US. http://www.brightpathsolutions.com/pages/services/training/courses/FMK_ReadW rite.html Feel free to email me if you have any questions. Thank you, Kay Kay Whatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bright Path Solutions 1.919.244.8559 Website: http://www.brightpathsolutions.com Conferences website: http://conf.travelthepath.com SKYPE = kayper ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Combining side-heads and full-span paras in the same document
Hi, Steve: If I understand your request correctly, method c would be to use paragraph formats set to Across All Columns and Side Heads for your full-span paragraphs, with a flow that enables side head space. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 8/20/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The title says what I need to do. There seem to be two ways of doing this: a. Set up left/right master pages with a sidehead margin and separate left/right master pages without sidehead space for the full-span settings, then set up a suitable master pages ref table. b. Set up left/right master pages with a sidehead margin and a separate set of full-span para tags for the full-span pages. When I try the first method, it fails to work despite everything appearing to be correct. I think this is because the sidehead property is a property of the flow [which I seem to remember reading here recently], so that even though the full-span master pages have been applied, FrameMaker ignores their side-head settings. Is there a way around this so that I can get method a. to work, or do I have to go with the more conceptually messy method b.? [Or is there a method c?] -- Steve ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: lest we forget
Donald M Rinderknecht wrote: Wow. And I thought that _I_ had been using Frame for a long time... what version were they using then? I think they must have been the baa-ta testers of FrameMake. Graeme R Forbes wrote: this was when ambitious landowners cleared the land of people in favor of sheep farming...the upshot was that thousands of poor framers...were thrown off their ancestral lands or out of their townships to fend for themselves with little or no resources to help them. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. — H.L. Mencken ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANN: Leximation and Silicon Publishing announce DITA plugin for FrameMaker
Leximation and Silicon Publishing today announced the release of DITA-FMx, a plugin for Adobe FrameMaker that provides extended support for the Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA). DITA-FMx is a plugin and set of structure applications that let you create and edit DITA XML files in FrameMaker. The version currently available supports DITA 1.0 and is only available for FrameMaker 7.2. A version that supports DITA 1.1 for FrameMaker 7.2 and 8.0 is under development. DITA-FMx supports fundamental DITA behavior such as ditamaps, relationship tables, and conrefs, through an intuitive user interface with context-sensitive help. This release of DITA-FMx is provided at no cost, and can be downloaded from http://www.leximation.com/dita-fmx IMPORTANT NOTICE: This communication, including any attachment, contains information that may be confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is intended to be a legally binding signature. If you have received this information in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or return e-mail and delete this information from your mailbox. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
lest we forget
It seems that our history goes back further than you thought. From David Lyons' coffee-table book "Scotland", p. 184, reproduced as printed, but for the elisions: ...the event which most shaped Highlanders were the Highland Clearances, which started in the late 18th and continued into the early 19th century...this was when ambitious landowners cleared the land of people in favor of sheep farming...the upshot was that thousands of poor framers...were thrown off their ancestral lands or out of their townships to fend for themselves with little or no resources to help them. Tout ca change, if you're on a Mac. Graeme Forbes
Pop-ups in Generated PDF
Lin, You wrote: >I have to publish a HUGE flowchart for a customer that has several >levels of data within each square. In order to fit the entire chart on >one page (and have the text larger than 6 pt), I want to only display >one or two levels of data and then use hypertext commands (probably >popup menus, even though the menu options won't lead the user anywhere; >they'll just display the next level of data) to allow the user to click >an item and show the rest of the data that falls below that item. > >I have the hypertext command working in FrameMaker (I can >Ctrl-Alt-right-click the text flow and see the next level of data in a >popup menu), but nothing's happening in the PDF. (Yes, I'm generating >Acrobat data when I create the PS file.) So, what am I missing? And why >do I have to right-click instead of left-click like usual to test the >hyperlink? > >AND does anyone have a better way to go about this than hypertext >commands? I'm all ears. > >I'm using FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows, unstructured for now but can go >structured if necessary. FrameMaker does not export the functionality you are interested in to PDF (or to other online formats); these hypertext commands only work in FrameMaker (view-only documents or with Control-Alt-click). If the content is relatively stable, you may try placing the the additional information in a PDF file using Acrobat Professional. Sample files demonstrating PDF options are available at: * http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF08.html (Display additional information without switching to a different page/file) * http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF07.html (Use popup menus to display additional, context-related choices) All of the samples were authored entirely in FrameMaker and distilled with the FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers add-on (or its extensions), with no post-creation operations in Acrobat; however, for stable content you may also add these items in the PDF manually. Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants
lest we forget
Wow. And I thought that _I_ had been using Frame for a long time... what version were they using then? :D don. Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch 120 David L. Boren Blvd Suite 2640 Norman, OK 73072 405.325.2805 ~ Donald.M.Rinderknecht at noaa.gov ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov ~ Graeme R Forbes wrote: > It seems that our history goes back further than you thought. From > David Lyons' coffee-table book "Scotland", p. 184, reproduced as > printed, but for the elisions: > > ...the event which most shaped Highlanders were the Highland > Clearances, which started in the late 18th and continued into the > early 19th century...this was when ambitious landowners cleared the > land of people in favor of sheep farming...the upshot was that > thousands of poor framers...were thrown off their ancestral lands or > out of their townships to fend for themselves with little or no > resources to help them. > > Tout ca change, if you're on a Mac. > > Graeme Forbes > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > Donald.M.Rinderknecht at noaa.gov. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/donald.m.rinderknecht%40noaa.gov > > > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Color Definition Error Messages in FM8
Hi, Has anyone gotten the following error message when generating a book and Frame files that were originally Frame 7.2: "Color definition for fm_gen_188453 is inconsistent." Updating the book worked fine in Frame 7.2. I checked my Frame 8 files and there are quite a number of "fm_gen#" color definitions that were not there before. What are they from? Is this a Frame 8 bug? Are there any work arounds? Thanks, Nancy Adams ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Combining side-heads and full-span paras in the same document
The title says what I need to do. There seem to be two ways of doing this: a. Set up left/right master pages with a sidehead margin and separate left/right master pages without sidehead space for the full-span settings, then set up a suitable master pages ref table. b. Set up left/right master pages with a sidehead margin and a separate set of full-span para tags for the full-span pages. When I try the first method, it fails to work despite everything appearing to be correct. I think this is because the sidehead property is a property of the flow [which I seem to remember reading here recently], so that even though the full-span master pages have been applied, FrameMaker ignores their side-head settings. Is there a way around this so that I can get method a. to work, or do I have to go with the more conceptually messy method b.? [Or is there a method c?] -- Steve
Combining side-heads and full-span paras in the same document
Steve Rickaby wrote: > When I try the first method, it fails to work despite > everything appearing to be correct. I think this is because > the sidehead property is a property of the flow [which I seem > to remember reading here recently], so that even though the > full-span master pages have been applied, FrameMaker ignores > their side-head settings. > > Is there a way around this so that I can get method a. to > work, or do I have to go with the more conceptually messy > method b.? [Or is there a method c?] Yep, I posted about this on Aug. 2, so I'll just quote myself: It's not clear from the FM interface (where you control side heads in the text frame properties dialog), but side heads are a property of the _flow_, not of the frame. IOW, if your flow has side heads on, then all text frames in that flow will have a side head. The workaround for your situation is to modify the text frames on the custom master pages you're using so that the side heads aren't evident. Set the width and gap to some small value (and adjust total text frame width accordingly), and maybe put the tiny side head on the right so it doesn't affect the left alignment of headings that straddle the side head. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
ANN: FrameMaker Read/Write Rules training -- class in September
Hello Framers: We're holding a Structured FrameMaker Read/Write Rules class soon! This two day class focuses on writing rules that will get your FrameMaker structured application working the way you need it to work. The training will be held September 18-19 in Raleigh, NC US. http://www.brightpathsolutions.com/pages/services/training/courses/FMK_ReadW rite.html Feel free to email me if you have any questions. Thank you, Kay Kay Whatley kay at brightpathsolutions.com Bright Path Solutions 1.919.244.8559 Website: http://www.brightpathsolutions.com Conferences website: http://conf.travelthepath.com SKYPE = kayper
Combining side-heads and full-span paras in the same document
Hi, Steve: If I understand your request correctly, method c would be to use paragraph formats set to Across All Columns and Side Heads for your full-span paragraphs, with a flow that enables side head space. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 8/20/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: > The title says what I need to do. There seem to be two ways of doing this: > > a. Set up left/right master pages with a sidehead margin and separate > left/right master pages without sidehead space for the full-span settings, > then set up a suitable master pages ref table. > > b. Set up left/right master pages with a sidehead margin and a separate set > of full-span para tags for the full-span pages. > > When I try the first method, it fails to work despite everything appearing to > be correct. I think this is because the sidehead property is a property of > the flow [which I seem to remember reading here recently], so that even > though the full-span master pages have been applied, FrameMaker ignores their > side-head settings. > > Is there a way around this so that I can get method a. to work, or do I have > to go with the more conceptually messy method b.? [Or is there a method c?] > > -- > Steve > ___
lest we forget
Donald M Rinderknecht wrote: > Wow. And I thought that _I_ had been using Frame for a long time... what > version were they using then? > I think they must have been the baa-ta testers of FrameMake. > > Graeme R Forbes wrote: this was when ambitious landowners cleared the >> land of people in favor of sheep farming...the upshot was that >> thousands of poor framers...were thrown off their ancestral lands or >> out of their townships to fend for themselves with little or no >> resources to help them. >> -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." ? H.L. Mencken
ANN: Leximation and Silicon Publishing announce DITA plugin for FrameMaker
Leximation and Silicon Publishing today announced the release of DITA-FMx, a plugin for Adobe FrameMaker that provides extended support for the Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA). DITA-FMx is a plugin and set of structure applications that let you create and edit DITA XML files in FrameMaker. The version currently available supports DITA 1.0 and is only available for FrameMaker 7.2. A version that supports DITA 1.1 for FrameMaker 7.2 and 8.0 is under development. DITA-FMx supports fundamental DITA behavior such as ditamaps, relationship tables, and conrefs, through an intuitive user interface with context-sensitive help. This release of DITA-FMx is provided at no cost, and can be downloaded from http://www.leximation.com/dita-fmx IMPORTANT NOTICE: This communication, including any attachment, contains information that may be confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is intended to be a legally binding signature. If you have received this information in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or return e-mail and delete this information from your mailbox. Thank you.
