Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Austin Meredith
According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue 
its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be discussing?


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RE: Conditional text insets

2008-04-28 Thread Fred Wersan
One possibility for handling conditions in insets without applying the 
conditions is to set up a very simple structured document and manage 
conditions using attributes.

Wait - don't have a heart attack!

It is possible to set up an extremely simple structure that doesn't do 
anything other than let you assign the attributes you need (print vs. 
help) to your paragraphs. Then you could go ahead and use your paragraph 
catalog as you always do and otherwise ignore the structure. It might 
not be any more complicated than using scripts or managing multiple 
conditions.

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Re: Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Dan Gallagher
When my XP stops working, that's when I'll either try Linux or buy a 
Macintosh. I will NEVER use Vista!
Sincerely,
Dan--Ft. Lauderdale


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Structured vs Unstructured Frame

2008-04-28 Thread Scott White
Framers

For years we have been using filemaker and framemaker together to  
create catalogs and fliers. The way our system worked is that we would  
create a .mif export through a series of calculations in filemaker,  
export that created file, then import into an unstructructured frame  
document and go down the road building a catalog or flier.
Now, we have developed our patented software in Filemaker 9.0,  
rewritten the .mif export to include an xsl transformation and then  
create the .mif export file. The transformation allows great   
flexibility when it comes to what we export from filemaker and then  
import to Frame.
At times, however, we find certain combinations of export choices do  
not always play well with Frame on the PC. We get the dreaded  
Framemaker has encountered a serious problem and must quit...
When I import that file into Framemaker on the Mac running in classic  
it imports fine with the display of where the error is and I fix.
The big however here is when I import a troublesome file into a  
structured frame template, it imports just fine.

So getting to my question: what are the limits to structured frame  
documents?
My initial understanding is that structured frame documents are just  
that - structured. However, it seems I have the ability to design my  
pages, move paragrapgh tags here and there, override initial settings,  
and layout my catalogs and fliers as I would normally in an  
unstructured document. It also seems I can re-open that structured  
document as an unstructured document and go about my business that way  
as well.
The bottom line is I need to be able to create all my pages like  
before, book my files and create an index, and panatone colors, and  
create print-ready pdfs for our printers. Is there any reason I  
couldn't do this with structured documents? I need to assure our  
clients that this .mif import will work for them too.
What are the benefits, with my given needs, for running structured  
frame documents?

Thanks for your help.



Scott White
Media Production Manager
Implementation Coordinator
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Re: Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Rick Quatro
I recently bought an Acer laptop with Vista. Because of all the anti-Vista 
press, I was prepared to install XP or a dual boot setup. However, I decided 
to work with Vista first. So far, it has worked just fine with FrameMaker 
7.2, 8.0, and FrameScript 5.1. The key may be RAM; I have 3Gb and it doesn't 
seem sluggish at all.

Your use of NEVER may be based on experience, but if it's based on the 
opinion of others, you may want to give it a chance. Even if you go with 
Linux or Mac OSX, you will have to have some flavor of Windows if you are 
going to run FrameMaker.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



 When my XP stops working, that's when I'll either try Linux or buy a
 Macintosh. I will NEVER use Vista!
 Sincerely,
 Dan--Ft. Lauderdale


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Re: Structured vs Unstructured Frame

2008-04-28 Thread martin . smith
Hi Scott,

A more direct path would be to write a script in the FrameScript  
language that queries your database and builds the FrameMaker document  
directly. You could easily build a structured or unstructured  
document, depending on your preference.

If you have xml in your database, a FrameScript solution with  
structured FrameMaker is especially attractive, because you can use  
the MSXML OCX parser in combination with FrameScript. FrameScript  
allows you to use OCX controls, and the MSXML OCX control gives you  
the power of XPATH and XQUERY directly within FrameMaker.

Note that I specialize in FrameMaker internals development.

Feel free to contact me off list if you would like additional information,

Martin

Martin R. Smith
Web Site: http://www.golehtek.com

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Re: Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Rick Henkel
 Your use of NEVER may be based on experience, but if it's based on the
 opinion of others, you may want to give it a chance. Even if you go with
 Linux or Mac OSX, you will have to have some flavor of Windows if you are
 going to run FrameMaker.



Personally, I've been using Vista since September and haven't seen any
more problems than what I've had with XP.

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Re: Structured vs Unstructured Frame

2008-04-28 Thread Art Campbell
I think a big, possibly the biggest question, would be what version of
FM are you talking about?
There's always been some, and usually an increasing amount of support,
for different styles and levels of complexity as FM has evolved from
having separate unstructured and SGML versions to an integreated
package.
But FM8 is the first that's come out of the box as an XML / DITA
editor without using plugins. So I'd use that as my baseline, I think,
rather than an earlier version that may have depended on tweaks,
kludges, or custom code.
And with that, I think, would be a question about whether it wouldn't
be better to use an XML based import rather than MIF.

Art

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Scott White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  So getting to my question: what are the limits to structured frame
  documents?
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 What are the benefits, with my given needs, for running structured
  frame documents?

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Re: Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Art Campbell
I think that it's probably only an issue on those purchasing new systems

Microsoft, as most software companies do, has always discontinued
support for non-shipping versions at some point. It doesn't mean that
XP is suddenly going to stop working on July 1.

I probably wouldn't have wanted to migrate production systems to it
before the first of this year, but the personal systems that I have
access to seem to be running fine. Vista is past the early adopter
phase, past the first patch release milestones, and seems to be stable
enough for production systems.

Art

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Austin Meredith
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 According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue
  its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be discussing?


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Re: OT: Podcast Question

2008-04-28 Thread John Hedtke
According to this book what I wrote about Podcasting a couple years 
ago, iPodder (a free app) may be a viable alternative.  It'll 
download files whenever you want and then they're there waiting for 
you to inhale to iTunes to plug into the iPod.  If you're simply 
interested in downloading them to play them locally, you can skip 
iTunes entirely and play them from iPodder using whatever MP3 playing 
app you have.

Yours truly,

John Hedtke
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www.hedtke.com -- website
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At 08:11 AM 4/28/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for the OT, but this silly little problem has to have been 
answered somewhere before and I just can't find a clue...

I'm using iTunes to download a set of daily podcasts because the 
servers here don't have the bandwidth to support streaming.

I have set up the download to check for new episodes daily, and that 
works fine.

However, the first time I configured the application, it was @ 7:53 
AM. Now that is the scheduled time for the daily update. It would be 
a whole lot slicker (and conserve bandwidth) if I could set that 
update to happen at 2:AM.

I tried all of the controls I could find through the UI and tried 
looking for something promising in the registry, but no joy so 
far.  I tried iTunes support and even subscribed to their forums, 
but can't figure out how to post?

Anybody have a resource for addressing iTunes questions?

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RE: Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Shuttleworth, Roger
Before we get too excited about this, it appears to me that the news report 
refers to Microsoft ceasing to *sell* XP, not ceasing to support it.

As for me, I tried Vista on a new laptop for a few days and hated it.


Roger Shuttleworth
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Re: Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Stuart Rogers
Austin Meredith wrote:
 According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue 
 its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be discussing?
 
 
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Re: Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Stuart Rogers
Austin Meredith wrote:
 According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue 
 its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be discussing?
 


(Sorry about the previous posting with no content but the quote -- 
that's the first hiccup I've experienced with Thunderbird.)

What MS announced was that by the end of June, computer makers will have 
to stop *selling* Windows XP for all uses other than ultra-low-cost PCs. 
  Mainstream technical support will continue to be available for Windows 
XP through April 2009, and more limited support will continue through 
April 2014.  (That probably means that the constant stream of patches 
for security vulnerabilities will continue till then.)

MS had originally said they would stop selling XP in January, but were 
forced by market pressure to extend that date.

It is already most unusual that MS is still allowing XP to be sold when 
its successor has been on the market for so long.  We all knew that XP 
would disappear when Vista arrived -- we shouldn't expect any more 
difficulties than were experienced when previous OS versions were 
superceded.

best,

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Re: OS X 10.4.11 -- can't import files from Word -- new wrinkle

2008-04-28 Thread Louise Moritsugu
Hello everyone,

Two weeks ago, I sent a message about a problem I was having  
importing Word RTFs into Frame 6 (Mac). The solution, in the end, was  
to import them using RTF_Japanese_Import.

Since then, a new glitch has developed -- it won't import any text in  
tables. The tables come in, but their cells are empty. It also won't  
recognize non-breaking spaces. The French accents remain as they  
should be.

Even an RTF file I'd previously imported successfully now imports  
without the contents of the tables.

Any ideas?

Will I have to reinstall OSX 10.3?

Thanks,

Louise


On 18-Apr-08, at 10:56 AM, Peter Gold wrote:

 Mastersoft provided some of FM's conversion filters at one time. The
 error is in the conversion filter, not FM itself. Apparently the
 Japanese RTF filter is/was smarter than the standard RTF filter.

 I believe around that time, even Word had problems importing Word
 files because of file-format changes.

 Glad to hear you've gotten past the problem.

 On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Steve Rickaby
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 At 10:12 -0400 18/4/08, Louise Moritsugu wrote:

 You raise a useful point about upgrading to FM 7, and I'll set up  
 a search on eBay for one.

 After I sent the initial message, I Googled Mastersoft in the  
 dead of night and found a 2002 response from Jeremy Griffiths on  
 another list that mentioned Importing (Copy Into Document),  
 setting the Format to RTF_Japanese_Import. Which seems to have  
 worked perfectly. Thank god for archives.

  Yes: I should have mentioned it. Back in FrameMaker 6 for Mac,  
 for some unfathomable reason, the 'Japanese' RTF import filter  
 worked better than the other one.

 And, yes, the French accents are no problem, either way.

 Regards,

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Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using that
info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't always
work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont., it
may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next page (I
know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on the next
page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back. Sometimes
that fixes it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it happen in two
different tables in two different chapters (both part of the same book). I
just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days ago, and it, too, is
no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
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www.techcomplus.com
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RE: Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Linda,

How long is your table title? If it is too long to add the variable at
the end, FM won't automatically wrap. You have force the table title to
wrap (set the right indent on the Paragraph catalog) and then you will
see the variable again.

TVB 

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Subject: Table continued variable not always working

Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using
that info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't
always work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont.,
it may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next
page (I know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on
the next page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any
more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back.
Sometimes that fixes it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it
happen in two different tables in two different chapters (both part of
the same book). I just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days
ago, and it, too, is no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
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RE: Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Owen, Clint
 For this to work the table title has to be inserted as one of the table
parameters, not as a separate paragraph above or below the table. Look
at the table designer, there is a selection for the title to be
Above..., Below... or No Title. If, for instance, your table title
paragraph is inserted manually in the paragraph where the table is
anchored, it can the same visually, but the variable will not work. The
automatic version inserts a little cell above or below the table for the
title paragraph, which you can change to your chosen paragraph style and
add the variable to.

Clint


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Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using
that info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't
always work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont.,
it may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next
page (I know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on
the next page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any
more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back.
Sometimes that fixes it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it
happen in two different tables in two different chapters (both part of
the same book). I just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days
ago, and it, too, is no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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RE: Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Yes, it's part of the table designer definition of the table.

The problem is what Tammy described. I had to set a right indent for the
table title para style to force the para to wrap. It apparently won't
automatically wrap just for the continued variable. I have a rather small
page size, so the titles did need to wrap to fit the Continued text in.

Setting a right indent of .75 worked to get both of the tables to always
show the continued variable.

Thanks, Tammy! 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:08 PM
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Subject: RE: Table continued variable not always working

 For this to work the table title has to be inserted as one of the table
parameters, not as a separate paragraph above or below the table. Look
at the table designer, there is a selection for the title to be
Above..., Below... or No Title. If, for instance, your table title
paragraph is inserted manually in the paragraph where the table is
anchored, it can the same visually, but the variable will not work. The
automatic version inserts a little cell above or below the table for the
title paragraph, which you can change to your chosen paragraph style and
add the variable to.

Clint


Clint Owen 
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Crane Aerospace  Electronics 
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Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using
that info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't
always work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont.,
it may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next
page (I know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on
the next page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any
more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back.
Sometimes that fixes it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it
happen in two different tables in two different chapters (both part of
the same book). I just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days
ago, and it, too, is no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
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Re: Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Greg. Eckrich
Hi Dan,

Your sentiment is completely understood; however, where will you run  
FrameMaker after your XP breaks?
Is Adobe going to port back to MAC (as though they should have left  
in the first place)?!  or to Linux?  Do you have some inside scoop here?

I presently run frame in XP as a guest O/S on a MacBook Pro.  It  
works.  Even so, it would not, under the scenario you project, offer  
you an answer.  Would appreciate your thoughts.

Best regards,

Gregory Eckrich,
Technical Writer
708-743-6849 cell
708-862-7180
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On 5-Apr - 2008, at 8:23 AM, Dan Gallagher wrote:

 When my XP stops working, that's when I'll either try Linux or buy a
 Macintosh. I will NEVER use Vista!
 Sincerely,
 Dan--Ft. Lauderdale


 According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue
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Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Austin Meredith
According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue 
its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be discussing?




Conditional text insets

2008-04-28 Thread Fred Wersan
One possibility for handling conditions in insets without applying the 
conditions is to set up a very simple structured document and manage 
conditions using attributes.

Wait - don't have a heart attack!

It is possible to set up an extremely simple structure that doesn't do 
anything other than let you assign the attributes you need (print vs. 
help) to your paragraphs. Then you could go ahead and use your paragraph 
catalog as you always do and otherwise ignore the structure. It might 
not be any more complicated than using scripts or managing multiple 
conditions.

Fred
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Structured vs Unstructured Frame

2008-04-28 Thread Scott White
Framers

For years we have been using filemaker and framemaker together to  
create catalogs and fliers. The way our system worked is that we would  
create a .mif export through a series of calculations in filemaker,  
export that created file, then import into an unstructructured frame  
document and go down the road building a catalog or flier.
Now, we have developed our patented software in Filemaker 9.0,  
rewritten the .mif export to include an xsl transformation and then  
create the .mif export file. The transformation allows great   
flexibility when it comes to what we export from filemaker and then  
import to Frame.
At times, however, we find certain combinations of "export choices" do  
not always play well with Frame on the PC. We get the dreaded  
"Framemaker has encountered a serious problem and must quit..."
When I import that file into Framemaker on the Mac running in classic  
it imports fine with the display of where the error is and I fix.
The big however here is when I import a troublesome file into a  
structured frame template, it imports just fine.

So getting to my question: what are the limits to structured frame  
documents?
My initial understanding is that structured frame documents are just  
that - structured. However, it seems I have the ability to design my  
pages, move paragrapgh tags here and there, override initial settings,  
and layout my catalogs and fliers as I would normally in an  
unstructured document. It also seems I can re-open that structured  
document as an unstructured document and go about my business that way  
as well.
The bottom line is I need to be able to create all my pages like  
before, book my files and create an index, and panatone colors, and  
create print-ready pdfs for our printers. Is there any reason I  
couldn't do this with structured documents? I need to assure our  
clients that this .mif import will work for them too.
What are the benefits, with my given needs, for running structured  
frame documents?

Thanks for your help.



Scott White
Media Production Manager
Implementation Coordinator
210-704-8239
swhite at alamark.com





Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Rick Quatro
I recently bought an Acer laptop with Vista. Because of all the anti-Vista 
press, I was prepared to install XP or a dual boot setup. However, I decided 
to work with Vista first. So far, it has worked just fine with FrameMaker 
7.2, 8.0, and FrameScript 5.1. The key may be RAM; I have 3Gb and it doesn't 
seem sluggish at all.

Your use of "NEVER" may be based on experience, but if it's based on the 
opinion of others, you may want to give it a chance. Even if you go with 
Linux or Mac OSX, you will have to have some flavor of Windows if you are 
going to run FrameMaker.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



> When my XP stops working, that's when I'll either try Linux or buy a
> Macintosh. I will NEVER use Vista!
> Sincerely,
> Dan--Ft. Lauderdale
>
>
> According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue
> its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be discussing?
> ___



Structured vs Unstructured Frame

2008-04-28 Thread martin.sm...@golehtek.com
Hi Scott,

A more direct path would be to write a script in the FrameScript  
language that queries your database and builds the FrameMaker document  
directly. You could easily build a structured or unstructured  
document, depending on your preference.

If you have xml in your database, a FrameScript solution with  
structured FrameMaker is especially attractive, because you can use  
the MSXML OCX parser in combination with FrameScript. FrameScript  
allows you to use OCX controls, and the MSXML OCX control gives you  
the power of XPATH and XQUERY directly within FrameMaker.

Note that I specialize in FrameMaker internals development.

Feel free to contact me off list if you would like additional information,

Martin

Martin R. Smith
Web Site: http://www.golehtek.com



Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Rick Henkel
> Your use of "NEVER" may be based on experience, but if it's based on the
> opinion of others, you may want to give it a chance. Even if you go with
> Linux or Mac OSX, you will have to have some flavor of Windows if you are
> going to run FrameMaker.



Personally, I've been using Vista since September and haven't seen any
more problems than what I've had with XP.

-- 
Rick Henkel
http://rickhenkel.googlepages.com/index.htm


Structured vs Unstructured Frame

2008-04-28 Thread Art Campbell
I think a big, possibly the biggest question, would be what version of
FM are you talking about?
There's always been some, and usually an increasing amount of support,
for different styles and levels of complexity as FM has evolved from
having separate unstructured and SGML versions to an integreated
package.
But FM8 is the first that's come out of the box as an XML / DITA
editor without using plugins. So I'd use that as my baseline, I think,
rather than an earlier version that may have depended on tweaks,
kludges, or custom code.
And with that, I think, would be a question about whether it wouldn't
be better to use an XML based import rather than MIF.

Art

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Scott White  wrote:
> Framers
>
>
>  So getting to my question: what are the limits to structured frame
>  documents?

> What are the benefits, with my given needs, for running structured
>  frame documents?

-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358


Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Art Campbell
I think that it's probably only an issue on those purchasing new systems

Microsoft, as most software companies do, has always discontinued
support for non-shipping versions at some point. It doesn't mean that
XP is suddenly going to stop working on July 1.

I probably wouldn't have wanted to migrate production systems to it
before the first of this year, but the personal systems that I have
access to seem to be running fine. Vista is past the early adopter
phase, past the first patch release milestones, and seems to be stable
enough for production systems.

Art

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Austin Meredith
 wrote:
> According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue
>  its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be discussing?
>
>
>  ___
>
>



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and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358


OT: Podcast Question

2008-04-28 Thread jopak...@comcast.net
Sorry for the OT, but this silly little problem has to have been answered 
somewhere before and I just can't find a clue...

I'm using iTunes to download a set of daily podcasts because the servers here 
don't have the bandwidth to support streaming. 

I have set up the download to check for new episodes daily, and that works fine.

However, the first time I configured the application, it was @ 7:53 AM. Now 
that is the scheduled time for the daily update. It would be a whole lot 
slicker (and conserve bandwidth) if I could set that update to happen at 2:AM.

I tried all of the controls I could find through the UI and tried looking for 
something promising in the registry, but no joy so far.  I tried iTunes support 
and even subscribed to their forums, but can't figure out how to post?

Anybody have a resource for addressing iTunes questions?

--
J. Paul Kent
206-383-0539


Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Dov Isaacs
FWIW, I have been running a number of Vista systems, both 32-bit and 64-bit
with nary a problem for a while now. SP1 significantly restores the performance
problems that the original Vista releases had.

The biggest problem with Vista was that Microsoft over-promised and
under-delivered, late! They also pressured software and hardware vendors
for support of Vista features such as XPS that are effectively irrelevant.
And of course, with nothing else to write about, the trade press certainly
were waiting to pounce on the Vista "failure." Corporate IT/IS types were
mad at Microsoft for requiring them to pay for "software assurance"
maintenance agreements over a period of the last number of years being
promised a "free" significant OS upgrade during the time of those pricey
"software assurance" agreements; what they got didn't live up to the billing
and the costs.

I certainly would NOT recommend that anyone running of an existing XP
system "upgrade" the operating system to Vista. It buys nothing significant.
For a new system with multiple core processor(s) and significant memory,
Vista is not a bad idea.

I remember that in 1990 when Microsoft released Windows 3.0, there were
those screaming about how they would NEVER migrate beyond Windows 2.1 ...

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Henkel
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 7:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Microsoft XP support
>
> > Your use of "NEVER" may be based on experience, but if it's based on the
> > opinion of others, you may want to give it a chance. Even if you go with
> > Linux or Mac OSX, you will have to have some flavor of Windows if you are
> > going to run FrameMaker.
>
> Personally, I've been using Vista since September and haven't seen any
> more problems than what I've had with XP.
>
> --
> Rick Henkel
> http://rickhenkel.googlepages.com/index.htm
> ___


OT: Podcast Question

2008-04-28 Thread John Hedtke
According to this book what I wrote about Podcasting a couple years 
ago, iPodder (a free app) may be a viable alternative.  It'll 
download files whenever you want and then they're there waiting for 
you to inhale to iTunes to plug into the iPod.  If you're simply 
interested in downloading them to play them locally, you can skip 
iTunes entirely and play them from iPodder using whatever MP3 playing 
app you have.

Yours truly,

John Hedtke
Author/Consultant/Contract Writer
www.hedtke.com <-- website
541-685-5000 (office landline)
541-554-2189 (cell)
john at hedtke.com (primary email)
johnhedtke at aol.com (secondary email)

At 08:11 AM 4/28/2008, jopakent at comcast.net wrote:
>Sorry for the OT, but this silly little problem has to have been 
>answered somewhere before and I just can't find a clue...
>
>I'm using iTunes to download a set of daily podcasts because the 
>servers here don't have the bandwidth to support streaming.
>
>I have set up the download to check for new episodes daily, and that 
>works fine.
>
>However, the first time I configured the application, it was @ 7:53 
>AM. Now that is the scheduled time for the daily update. It would be 
>a whole lot slicker (and conserve bandwidth) if I could set that 
>update to happen at 2:AM.
>
>I tried all of the controls I could find through the UI and tried 
>looking for something promising in the registry, but no joy so 
>far.  I tried iTunes support and even subscribed to their forums, 
>but can't figure out how to post?
>
>Anybody have a resource for addressing iTunes questions?
>
>--
>J. Paul Kent
>206-383-0539
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Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Shuttleworth, Roger
Before we get too excited about this, it appears to me that the news report 
refers to Microsoft ceasing to *sell* XP, not ceasing to support it.

As for me, I tried Vista on a new laptop for a few days and hated it.


Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Publications
TVWorks Canada, Inc.
150 Dufferin Avenue
London, Ontario
N6A 5N6
Canada
Tel. 519 963-4368
www.tvworks.com


Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Stuart Rogers
Austin Meredith wrote:
> According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue 
> its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be discussing?
> 
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Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Stuart Rogers
Austin Meredith wrote:
> According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue 
> its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be discussing?
> 
>

(Sorry about the previous posting with no content but the quote -- 
that's the first hiccup I've experienced with Thunderbird.)

What MS announced was that by the end of June, computer makers will have 
to stop *selling* Windows XP for all uses other than ultra-low-cost PCs. 
  Mainstream technical support will continue to be available for Windows 
XP through April 2009, and more limited support will continue through 
April 2014.  (That probably means that the constant stream of patches 
for security "vulnerabilities" will continue till then.)

MS had originally said they would stop selling XP in January, but were 
forced by market pressure to extend that date.

It is already most unusual that MS is still allowing XP to be sold when 
its successor has been on the market for so long.  We all knew that XP 
would disappear when Vista arrived -- we shouldn't expect any more 
difficulties than were experienced when previous OS versions were 
superceded.

best,

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OS X 10.4.11 -- can't import files from Word -- new wrinkle

2008-04-28 Thread Louise Moritsugu
Hello everyone,

Two weeks ago, I sent a message about a problem I was having  
importing Word RTFs into Frame 6 (Mac). The solution, in the end, was  
to import them using "RTF_Japanese_Import."

Since then, a new glitch has developed -- it won't import any text in  
tables. The tables come in, but their cells are empty. It also won't  
recognize non-breaking spaces. The French accents remain as they  
should be.

Even an RTF file I'd previously imported successfully now imports  
without the contents of the tables.

Any ideas?

Will I have to reinstall OSX 10.3?

Thanks,

Louise


On 18-Apr-08, at 10:56 AM, Peter Gold wrote:

> Mastersoft provided some of FM's conversion filters at one time. The
> error is in the conversion filter, not FM itself. Apparently the
> Japanese RTF filter is/was smarter than the standard RTF filter.
>
> I believe around that time, even Word had problems importing Word
> files because of file-format changes.
>
> Glad to hear you've gotten past the problem.
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Steve Rickaby
>  wrote:
>> At 10:12 -0400 18/4/08, Louise Moritsugu wrote:
>>
>>> You raise a useful point about upgrading to FM 7, and I'll set up  
>>> a search on eBay for one.
>>>
>>> After I sent the initial message, I Googled "Mastersoft" in the  
>>> dead of night and found a 2002 response from Jeremy Griffiths on  
>>> another list that mentioned Importing (Copy Into Document),  
>>> setting the Format to "RTF_Japanese_Import." Which seems to have  
>>> worked perfectly. Thank god for archives.
>>
>>  Yes: I should have mentioned it. Back in FrameMaker 6 for Mac,  
>> for some unfathomable reason, the 'Japanese' RTF import filter  
>> worked better than the other one.
>>
>>> And, yes, the French accents are no problem, either way.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
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Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using that
info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't always
work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont., it
may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next page (I
know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on the next
page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back. Sometimes
that "fixes" it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it happen in two
different tables in two different chapters (both part of the same book). I
just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days ago, and it, too, is
no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
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303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
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Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Linda,

How long is your table title? If it is too long to add the variable at
the end, FM won't automatically wrap. You have force the table title to
wrap (set the right indent on the Paragraph catalog) and then you will
see the variable again.

TVB 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Linda G.
Gallagher
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:00 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Table continued variable not always working

Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using
that info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't
always work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont.,
it may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next
page (I know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on
the next page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any
more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back.
Sometimes that "fixes" it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it
happen in two different tables in two different chapters (both part of
the same book). I just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days
ago, and it, too, is no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

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Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Owen, Clint
 For this to work the table title has to be inserted as one of the table
parameters, not as a separate paragraph above or below the table. Look
at the table designer, there is a selection for the title to be
"Above...", "Below..." or "No Title". If, for instance, your table title
paragraph is inserted manually in the paragraph where the table is
anchored, it can the same visually, but the variable will not work. The
automatic version inserts a little cell above or below the table for the
title paragraph, which you can change to your chosen paragraph style and
add the variable to.

Clint


Clint Owen 
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Crane Aerospace & Electronics 
425-743-8674


Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using
that info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't
always work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont.,
it may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next
page (I know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on
the next page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any
more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back.
Sometimes that "fixes" it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it
happen in two different tables in two different chapters (both part of
the same book). I just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days
ago, and it, too, is no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

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Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Yes, it's part of the table designer definition of the table.

The problem is what Tammy described. I had to set a right indent for the
table title para style to force the para to wrap. It apparently won't
automatically wrap just for the continued variable. I have a rather small
page size, so the titles did need to wrap to fit the Continued text in.

Setting a right indent of .75" worked to get both of the tables to always
show the continued variable.

Thanks, Tammy! 


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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:08 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Table continued variable not always working

 For this to work the table title has to be inserted as one of the table
parameters, not as a separate paragraph above or below the table. Look
at the table designer, there is a selection for the title to be
"Above...", "Below..." or "No Title". If, for instance, your table title
paragraph is inserted manually in the paragraph where the table is
anchored, it can the same visually, but the variable will not work. The
automatic version inserts a little cell above or below the table for the
title paragraph, which you can change to your chosen paragraph style and
add the variable to.

Clint


Clint Owen 
Technical Publications
Crane Aerospace & Electronics 
425-743-8674


Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using
that info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't
always work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont.,
it may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next
page (I know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on
the next page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any
more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back.
Sometimes that "fixes" it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it
happen in two different tables in two different chapters (both part of
the same book). I just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days
ago, and it, too, is no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
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TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
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Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Rick Quatro
For those looking to "save" Windows XP, you may want to check this out:

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue
> its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be discussing?



Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Stuart Rogers
Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
> Yes, it's part of the table designer definition of the table.
> 
> The problem is what Tammy described. I had to set a right indent for the
> table title para style to force the para to wrap. It apparently won't
> automatically wrap just for the continued variable. I have a rather small
> page size, so the titles did need to wrap to fit the Continued text in.
> 
> Setting a right indent of .75" worked to get both of the tables to always
> show the continued variable.
> 
> Thanks, Tammy! 
> 


Can't remember if I've tried this or not -- does a non-breaking space 
before the variable cause an automatic wrap?

s.


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Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
This may also be relevant :) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24293129/

Z

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Rick Quatro
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:26 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Austin Meredith
> Subject: Re: Microsoft XP support
> 
> For those looking to "save" Windows XP, you may want to check this
out:
> 
> http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com
> 
> 
> > According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to
discontinue
> > its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be
discussing?


Rotated graphics

2008-04-28 Thread Tina Ricks
Hi everyone,



I'm importing graphs created in Excel. Works fine, life is good, they seem
to import at the right size/shape, all is good.



I have a few that I want to run landscape on the page. I import it into
Frame (Copy in Excel, then Edit > Paste Special > Embedded Microsoft Graph
Chart Object).



OK so far. The quality is good, letters are smooth, no jagged edges, etc.
Looks good printed, in PDF, etc.



Then I rotate my graph sideways (right-click, rotate, counter-clockwise),
and the quality goes terrible. My print vendor tells me those pages are at
150 dpi.



Why would the quality suddenly change with a different orientation? I am not
resizing anything by hand, just rotating.



Ideas?



Tina Ricks

Editor, Trial Guides, LLC

tina at trialguides.com



Rotated graphics

2008-04-28 Thread Tina Ricks
Sorry. nevermind. I figured it out. 



My first attempt who knows what I did. When I re-imported and rotated, it
looks awful on the screen (and I have a very nice monitor), but looks fine
in PDF and print. 



Tina Ricks

Editor, Trial Guides, LLC

tina at trialguides.com



Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread Greg. Eckrich
Hi Dan,

Your sentiment is completely understood; however, where will you run  
FrameMaker after your XP breaks?
Is Adobe going to port back to MAC (as though they should have left  
in the first place)?!  or to Linux?  Do you have some inside scoop here?

I presently run frame in XP as a guest O/S on a MacBook Pro.  It  
works.  Even so, it would not, under the scenario you project, offer  
you an answer.  Would appreciate your thoughts.

Best regards,

Gregory Eckrich,
Technical Writer
708-743-6849 cell
708-862-7180
GWEckrich at wowway.com



On 5-Apr - 2008, at 8:23 AM, Dan Gallagher wrote:

> When my XP stops working, that's when I'll either try Linux or buy a
> Macintosh. I will NEVER use Vista!
> Sincerely,
> Dan--Ft. Lauderdale
>
>
> According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue
> its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be  
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Microsoft XP support

2008-04-28 Thread mbrad...@techpubs.com
> Vista is past the early adopter
> phase, past the first patch release milestones, and seems to be stable
> enough for production systems.

For my part, it's not the stability of Vista that concerns me, it's the darn 
user interface. I avoid Vista like the plague, and so far I've been able to 
work for clients who agree with me. Even when I'm forced to run Vista, I use 
itg with the XP-menu add-ons.

= Mike Bradley
  www.techpubs.com



Batch Mif to FM Conversion Tool

2008-04-28 Thread Aden Jamison
Hello Framers,



I'm curious if anyone has come across a tool/script that is capable of
batch conversions of Mif files to FM files?



Thanks,

Aden 





Learning curve for FrameMaker

2008-04-28 Thread Chinell, David F (GE EntSol, Security)
Listers:

I apologize in advance for asking an admittedly vague question, but any
experiences or information you can share will be appreciated.

I've focused largely on MS Word for the past fifteen years of my career,
and have become quite adept at designing templates for technical
publications. I'm currently in a shop that uses both Word and
FrameMaker, and have been offered "ownership" of the FrameMaker
templates as well. I have only the slightest experience of FrameMaker.

Can anyone hazard a guess as to how long it might take me to get up to
speed with FrameMaker, to the point of being able to do more good than
harm with the templates I inherit for maintenance, or create from
scratch?

I can only add that we're using FrameMaker 7.0 to create print
publications. That is, we're not using SGML or XML or any of the
features of structured FrameMaker.

Sincerely,

David Chinell