why is FM's UI so weird and buggy?

You have to understand that even what UI experience they had with the Mac they threw away when they orphaned the Mac OS on FrameMaker. It's been solid windows since Version 8. They took the Microsoft design philosophy to heart and are busy fixing things that aren't broken. Including the UI. Th

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ur PDF > output, (assuming you are single-sourcing to PDF also), correct? Yes, we set up our TOC to pick up the dual formats. Have a nice weekend! Alexandra -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachme

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Re: why is FM's UI so weird and buggy?

You have to understand that even what UI experience they had with the Mac they threw away when they orphaned the Mac OS on FrameMaker. It's been solid windows since Version 8. They took the Microsoft design philosophy to heart and are busy fixing things that aren't broken. Including the UI. T

Re: Reappearing Change Bars

Do any of the character or paragraph styles have change bars set? Very strange if they're in the PDF but not in the Frame file! Have you tried Ctrl-L on the Frame file to see if that refreshes the display and makes them visible? Good luck Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and co

RE: Reappearing Change Bars

It is possible that one of your users has added changebars manually (as an override). In that case you will have to remove them by applying the default font for the paragraph to the text in question. BTW: I have seen this happen when users are not aware of the automatic nature of change bars a

SOLVED: Cannot find the file named...

Ah, Windows 7 It's always Windows, innit? In this case, it's the much-maligned User Access Control settings. 1) Navigate to Control Panel > System and Security > Action Center. 2) Click "Change User Access Control settings". 3) Set the slider to Never Notify and click OK. Double-click your

Re: Frame versus XSL-FO

On 2/27/2013 2:12 PM, Ed Nodland wrote: I am curious if the high cost of XSL-FO development is due to FO being more difficult then basic XSLT. We program many XSLTs, some are complex that merge data from multiple XML files that contain coded data in tables, tables of descriptions of the coded da

Re: Reappearing Change Bars

One thought is that the change bars option might be on for a character tag, and then that tag is used as part of some of your xrefs. Grant On March 1, 2013 at 7:00 AM Kristy Nolan wrote: Hi, all!   I am posti

FrameMaker CMS: OpenText Integration

Hello Framers, Has anyone done any FrameMaker integration with OpenText content management system? Or more generally, has anyone done any custom CMS integration with FrameMaker 10 or 11? Any information would be appreciated. Thank you very much. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-50

Re: RE: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

I can say from experience that my method is quick, easy, and gives you full control. On Mar 1, 2013 8:26 AM, "Robert Lauriston" wrote: > I create two identical styles, e.g. Heading 2 and Heading 2 Break (or > Nobreak, depending on which is the most common), and define them > differently in RoboHe

Re: RE: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

I create two identical styles, e.g. Heading 2 and Heading 2 Break (or Nobreak, depending on which is the most common), and define them differently in RoboHelp. Using markers is extra work and could cause problems if you have to switch to another tool. __

Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 12:08:25 -0600 (CST), Nancy Allison wrote: > Hi, Jeremy. With regard to selecting only some >text from a lengthy .fm file to turn into .html >files, how does mif2go offer better control? By making that selection very simple, and providing a way to apply it automatically t

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RE: RE: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

> Hi, Alexandra. I think this is what Robert Lauriston has been saying, also. Aha, I am on the digest version, so I haven’t seen that yet. That’s why I’m usually a “lurker” because someone answers first anyway! > Both the formats you use are picked up in your FrameMaker TOC for your PDF > outpu

Re: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 12:08:25 -0600 (CST), Nancy Allison wrote: > Hi, Jeremy. With regard to selecting only some >text from a lengthy .fm file to turn into .html >files, how does mif2go offer better control? By making that selection very simple, and providing a way to apply it automatically t

Re: RE: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

 Hi, Alexandra. I think this is what Robert Lauriston has been saying, also. Both the formats you use are picked up in your FrameMaker TOC for your PDF output, (assuming you are single-sourcing to PDF also), correct? This sounds like a great solution. Very elegant. --Nancy  On 03/01/13, Alexandra D

RE: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

Hi Nancy, Here's how we do this - we have two heading styles for all our major headings. Level 1 starts a new page in RH, and Level1nopage looks exactly the same but does not have the Pagination option selected in the RH mapping. Similarly, we have Level2 and Level2nopage, and so on. Our Level 4

Frame versus XSL-FO

On 2/27/2013 2:12 PM, Ed Nodland wrote: > I am curious if the high cost of XSL-FO development is due to FO being > more difficult then basic XSLT. We program many XSLTs, some are complex > that merge data from multiple XML files that contain coded data in > tables, tables of descriptions of the co

Re: FM-to-RH users' list?

There's a specific FM to RH Google group, tcs-us...@googlegroups.com and there's the Adobe forums... http://forums.adobe.com/community/robohelp/robohelp_framemaker I have quite a bit of info at mattrsullivan.com as well. -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | online training | eLearnin

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On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 09:54:04 -0600 (CST), Nancy Allison > wrote: >Is there any other approach to chunking text that I'm missing? Yes, use a product that really works with Frame as it is, like Mif2Go... and avoid all the pain you describe, and that would be required for all the responses so far,

SOLVED: Cannot find the file named...

Ah, Windows 7 It's always Windows, innit? In this case, it's the much-maligned User Access Control settings. 1) Navigate to Control Panel > System and Security > Action Center. 2) Click "Change User Access Control settings". 3) Set the slider to Never Notify and click OK. Double-click your B

Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

Nancy, consider creating markers for all headings, regardless of whether you plan to use them or not. Let RoboHelp break them into topics. Then in your RoboHelp TOC and browse sequences, just include the topics that you want. Yes, the unwanted ones will go along for the ride when the file is ge

Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

On 01/03/2013 11:18 AM, Nancy Allison wrote: > Dang, I think. > Let's say I have a longish chapter: > Chapter Title > Internal TOC > Heading 1 Intro > Heading 2 > Heading 2 > Heading 2 > Heading 1 > Heading 2 > Heading 2 > Heading 2 > Let's say that, of all of that content, the only content I want

RW Rules vs EDD Conflict

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 Carol, are you speaking of custom Markers that RH could then look for? I like the idea of just removing unwanted topics, sounds very painless! --Nancy  On 03/01/13, Carol J. Elkins wrote: Nancy, consider creating markers for all headings, regardless of whether you plan to use them or not. Let Robo

RE: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

Nancy, consider creating markers for all headings, regardless of whether you plan to use them or not. Let RoboHelp break them into topics. Then in your RoboHelp TOC and browse sequences, just include the topics that you want. Yes, the unwanted ones will go along for the ride when the file is ge

Re: Frame versus XSL-FO

Hi Ed... Yes .. the cost is definitely related to the complexity. If you have FO developers in-house, that will help a lot. The key is that you need a solid understanding of XSLT, plus you need to fully understand page layout concepts, and on top of that the FO language itself is huge and com

Frame versus XSL-FO

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FM-to-RH users' list?

Hi, all.  I am painfully picking my way toward success with the FM-to-RH conversion process; I can see that I"m going to have a series of questions as I keep stubbing my toes against one problem or another. Is there a better list for me to post questions to? I realize HATT may be my best bet, and I

Re: Reappearing Change Bars

No, we don't have change bars on automatic. KristyKristy NolanCentral Pubs - Flight OpsOn Mar 1, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "Peter Hirons" wrote: Kristy, Do you have Automatic Change Bars turned on? (Format | Document | Change bars ) FM re-creates X-refs every time it prints (or creates a

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Re: Re: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

 Hi, Jeremy. With regard to selecting only some text from a lengthy .fm file to turn into .html files, how does mif2go offer better control? I assume I would still need to indicate heading level at which to split the .fm files, and conditional text to mask unwanted text. Does mif2go make either of

Re: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

Ah, I see what you're saying, Jeff. The entire list of headings, beginning with Chapter Title, is one .fm file. The Heading 1 and Heading 2s  are relatively short sections within the .fm file and would create a lengthy book file if they were saved as individual .fm files and entered separately in t

Re: Re: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

Very interesting, thank you!> Let's further say that I want to combine the two sections preceded by> ** into one .html topic file, and I also want to do the same with the> two sections preceded by .> In other words, I want to carve information out of the larger chapter> and only convert tha

Re: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 09:54:04 -0600 (CST), Nancy Allison > wrote: >Is there any other approach to chunking text that I'm missing? Yes, use a product that really works with Frame as it is, like Mif2Go... and avoid all the pain you describe, and that would be required for all the responses so far,

Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

Hi, all. I'm using FM 10 and RH 9 on a Windows 7 system. I see that there are at least two ways to chunk .fm content into separate .html topics when you import a FrameMaker project into RoboHelp: 1. When setting up the import of .fm files, set the pagination value to a heading level; topics beg

Re: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

On 01/03/2013 11:18 AM, Nancy Allison wrote: Dang, I think. Let's say I have a longish chapter: Chapter Title Internal TOC Heading 1 Intro Heading 2 Heading 2 Heading 2 Heading 1 Heading 2 Heading 2 Heading 2 Let's say that, of all of that content, the only content I want to transform into .html

RE: RE: RE: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

Maybe I misunderstood - are these chunks all within 1 .fm file or 1 .book? I was assuming that they were separate .fm files and could be recombined in a new .book structure for the purposes of conversion. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framer

Re: RE: RE: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

Hi, Jeff. Do you mean cut delete the content that is not wanted in online help and create a second set of parallel, cut-down .fm files? That would mean blowing up the single-sourcing model, which I would not want to do . .  If you mean something else, I'm all ears. Thanks. --Nancy  On 03/01/13, Jef

RE: RE: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

What I would do is build a new .book file with all the required bits you want to see over in RH & then bring that in. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013

Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

I create two identical styles, e.g. Heading 2 and Heading 2 Break (or Nobreak, depending on which is the most common), and define them differently in RoboHelp. Using markers is extra work and could cause problems if you have to switch to another tool.

Re: RE: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

Dang, I think. Let's say I have a longish chapter: Chapter TitleInternal TOCHeading 1 IntroHeading 2Heading 2Heading 2Heading 1Heading 2Heading 2Heading 2Let's say that, of all of that content, the only content I want to transform into .html topic files are the sections with asterisks: Chapter Titl

Reappearing Change Bars

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RE: Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

Nancy Allison wrote: > 2. Create custom markers to identify the beginning of a topic. Question: How > do you indicate the end of the topic? The end of a topic is the beginning of the next topic. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-511

Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

Nancy Allison wrote: > 2. Create custom markers to identify the beginning of a topic. Question: How > do you indicate the end of the topic? The end of a topic is the beginning of the next topic. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111

Chunking FM files into Topics for RH

Hi, all. I'm using FM 10 and RH 9 on a Windows 7 system. I see that there are at least two ways to chunk .fm content into separate .html topics when you import a FrameMaker project into RoboHelp: 1. When setting up the import of .fm files, set the pagination value to a heading level; topics beg

RE: Reappearing Change Bars

Kristy, Do you have Automatic Change Bars turned on? (Format | Document | Change bars ) FM re-creates X-refs every time it prints (or creates a PDF) and that could trigger a new changebar. Peter From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.co

Reappearing Change Bars

Hi, all! I am posting for a coworker, but I have no answers or where to start either. In our FrameMaker 10 book, we add the change bar style to cross references that have changed for a revision. When we modify that page for a subsequent revision, we remove the change bar style. These change ba

RE: RW Rules vs EDD Conflict

Hi Lisa, I think you have misunderstood the rules a little. So try this: element "Graphic" { is fm graphic element "Graphic"; attribute "illus" is fm property entity; } This will work if the "illus" attribute is defined as type ENTITY in the DTD. In your EDD remove the attribute defin

Re: Frame versus XSL-FO

Well, it was the original poster (Ed) who brought up DITA. And Author-IT is a ($$$) product; the DITA-OT is not (and was never intended to be one), it's a reference implementation. Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscri