Re: [Framers] Framemaker Training

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

I know a couple of people who've used the Lynda.com course and found it very 
helpful. 

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From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+richard.combs=polycom@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Rebecca Officer
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 2:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Framemaker Training

If you're just looking for a quick overview, try Lynda.com. They've only got a 
FrameMaker 10 course but the interface hasn't changed too much since then.

Cheers
Rebecca


On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:53 AM,  
> wrote:

> I need training of Framemaker ASAP

> Can you help?

>

> Cheryl

>

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Re: [Framers] Compiling books on to a CD/DVD

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

Good idea. It's been quite a while since I played with PDF portfolios, but if I 
recall correctly, that lets the readers search across all the portfolio 
components. At least when they're using Adobe Reader.

From: Framers [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng, 
Dr. Winfried
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Compiling books on to a CD/DVD

Hi Tom,

You might also combine them in a PDF portfolio.

https://acrobatusers.com/tutorials/how-create-pdf-portfolio

The portfolio supports all the features which you need.
However, I do not know, whether other PDF viewers
can open such a portfolio. Just test it.

Best regards

Winfried

From: Framers [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:35 PM
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Subject: [Framers] Compiling books on to a CD/DVD

This is not necessarily a FrameMaker issue, but I a presuming that some of you 
may have done this and would be able to provide me with needed advice.

For a few of our machines, we ship several manuals with each group of machines 
on a project -- one print copy of each manual and, currently, a CD/DVD of each 
individually packaged in a CD/DVD book case. I want to replace these multiple 
CDs with a single disc that contains the pdf versions of all of the manuals 
shipped.

Rather than just burning all of the manuals to disc, I'd like to compile them 
onto a single disc with a cover file that opens when the CD is inserted (if the 
user has autoplay enabled) and provides links to each of the manuals on the CD. 
Is it possible to do this in Acrobat (I have Acrobat XI Pro running on a 64-bit 
Windows 7 Enterprise SP1) or FrameMaker? All of the manuals that would be 
burned to the CD also were created in FrameMaker 12.




Tom Beiswenger
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RE: FM12 Crashes on File Open - Need Answer FAST

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

“Divide and conquer” is always a good troubleshooting strategy in such cases. 
Cut the MIF file in half and save each half as FM. Theoretically, one of the FM 
files will crash and the other won’t, narrowing down the location of the 
problem. Repeat the process as necessary to isolate the problem to a specific 
graphic, table, page, etc.

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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:17 AM
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Subject: FM12 Crashes on File Open - Need Answer FAST

This file opens fine in Frame 10. It opens fine in Frame 12 IF it is a MIF 
file. As soon as I save the file from MIF10 to FM in Frame12, close it and 
reopen it, the program crashes again.
I am, of course, on multiple deadlines, and yes, I do need this file to work in 
Frame12.
HELP!

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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

OK, this thread has veered in multiple directions, and the key point that Fred 
and I tried to make may have gotten lost, partly because as Fred pointed out, 
we tend to misuse the term resolution. So let's banish that term. Don't think 
about resolution and don't do anything resolution-related to your screen shots 
in PS.

So let me try to restate the key point. If you do a screen capture of a window 
that's 1000 pixels wide and 500 pixels high, it contains 500,000 pixels 
(picture elements). You want all 500,000 to be present when you import that 
image into FM. The image file you save in Photoshop, regardless of file format, 
should still have dimensions of 1000x500 pixels.

When you import that 1000x500 pixel image into FM, you decide how wide you want 
it to be on the page by setting the dpi (dots per inch, the print equivalent of 
pixels per inch). If you want it 5 wide, set the dpi to 1000/5 = 200 dpi. If 
you want it 6 wide, set the dpi to 1000/6 = 166.666... - well, round it up to 
167 dpi. You get the idea. You want all 500,000 pixels to be there, and simply 
adjust the size by specifying how closely together they should be - the dot 
pitch, as Fred pointed out.

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:52 AM
To: Shmuel; framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images

Output is PDF, and yes, my issue is with the finished product, not what I'm 
seeing on my computer screen.


From: Shmuel [shmue...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:15 AM
To: Tim Pann; framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images
Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the PDF. The 
way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your output PDF, online 
help, or both?

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On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote:
I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.

Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're 
all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and 
they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that 
didn't help.

I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.

I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.

Thank you,
Tim

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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

We’re talking about screen captures. Typical monitors display 96 pixels per 
inch, so you’re not “creating” something at 300 dpi. And you never want or need 
to downsample a screen capture.

I’ll repeat myself just one more time. Ignore “resolution.” Just look at the 
pixel dimensions of your screen capture. If it’s 1280 x 800 pixels, make sure 
it remains 1280 x 800 pixels. Period. Divide that 1280-pixel width by the width 
in inches that you want the graphic to take up in FM, and that’s the dpi you 
set at import.

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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:32 PM
To: Robert Lauriston
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Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

That would sort of be my point. If you want to -- not have to -- you would 
create your gold copy of the graphic at say 300 DPI and downsample it 
automatically in Photoshop or simply adjust it to usable size when you import 
into FM since you specify the DPI during import.

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On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Robert Lauriston 
rob...@lauriston.commailto:rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
Setting the resolution in FrameMaker doesn't degrade the image, it
just changes its size. If you set a bitmap of a screen shot to 300
dpi, users might have to zoom in 4X to see it.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Art Campbell 
art.campb...@gmail.commailto:art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you use the screen resolution, they're all going to look like the dog was
 sick. John's recommendation for 160 DPI is about the minimum. If you're
 going to print, or expect your users to print PDFs, I'd go 240 or 300 DPI.
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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

No, if you import at screen resolution, you're almost always throwing away 
pixels. Your screen captures typically have to be shrunk to fit on the page in 
your doc. You want to shrink them by squeezing the existing pixels closer 
together, not by throwing some of them away.

When you import a screen shot into FM, the Imported Graphic Scaling dialog 
offers Fit in Selected Rectangle. I don't generally use that, but if you're 
creating the anchored frame first, you might want to try it. I prefer to 
specify a nice round dpi (dots per inch) number that goes evenly into the 
typical laser printer resolutions (probably less important today, but old 
habits die hard).

The Imported Graphic Scaling dialog also offers several common dpi options 
(with the dimensions on the page resulting from that dpi setting), and Custom 
dpi. It also shows you the pixel dimensions of the file you're importing. If 
none of the listed common dpi settings result in a size you can use, the math 
to get exactly what you want isn't hard. If the file is, say, 960 pixels wide, 
and you want it to fit exactly into a 6 wide frame on the page, divide 960 by 
6. Set Custom dpi to the result, 160, and you should have a nice, sharp 6 wide 
screen shot in your doc.

From: Tim Pann [mailto:tp...@telecomsys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:30 PM
To: Combs, Richard (CW); framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images

OK this is very interesting. I was under the assumption that you should keep 
the resolution of the picture at the resolution of the screen, and then import 
it in also at that resolution. I was not aware that changing the import 
resolution was advisable.

Off top of my head this seems like it would be difficult to get just the right 
resolution on the first try giving a particular anchored frame size. Do you 
have some clever method for getting the resolution right the first time?

Tim

From: Combs, Richard (CW) [richard.co...@polycom.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:24 PM
To: Tim Pann; framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images
Don't resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured. When you 
import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make them the size 
you want on the page.

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:11 PM
To: framers
Subject: Importing clear, sharp images

I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.

Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're 
all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and 
they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that 
didn't help.

I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.

I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.

Thank you,
Tim

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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

Don't resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured. When you 
import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make them the size 
you want on the page.

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:11 PM
To: framers
Subject: Importing clear, sharp images

I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.

Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're 
all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and 
they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that 
didn't help.

I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.

I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.

Thank you,
Tim

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RE: Apply a page master style to a para format.

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

Yes. Select Format  Page Layout  Apply Master Pages. This creates a new 
reference page named MasterPageMaps. Go to it, and you'll see a master page 
mapping table with no entries. In the Paragraph Tag Name column, enter 
ChapterTitle. In the appropriate master page column (right or left), enter 
First. Set Range Indicator to Single. Save. 

Select Format  Page Layout  Apply Master Pages again to apply the mapping 
table setting you created. 

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Subject: Apply a page master style to a para format.

Hi, guys...FM 11 unstructured.

Is there a way of defining that a specific Master Page be used when the
first para style is a specific style?

I have pages that start with the style ChapterTitle. It is only used one in
a file. Every page that starts with that, I'd like to apply the master page
Custom  First to that page. Page two of that file reverts to Left/Right
model

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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

Ditto!

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Subject: RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

Yes, they make good stuff. I recommend their products.

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Subject: Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

I've heard good things about Silicon Prairie Software, although I have not used 
it: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/

Nadine


From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.commailto:r...@rickquatro.com
To: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.commailto:john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com; 'framers' 
framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

Hi John,

As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is basically
Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
learn.

I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker. If
you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts that
I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
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Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from request to license.

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that
be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst  Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC  RC Systems Control  Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

Hmm. Then it made a liar out of the FM10 help, too. Maybe that “rasterization” 
language was left over from earlier releases…

From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:16 AM
To: Combs, Richard (CW)
Cc: Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

And it's making a liar out of me. I just tried it again, and this time it 
worked.
Honestly, sometimes it isn't even worth banging your head against a table.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Lin Sims 
ljsims...@gmail.commailto:ljsims...@gmail.com wrote:
I tried that, too, actually. First thing I did, and I should have listed it.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Combs, Richard (CW) 
richard.co...@polycom.commailto:richard.co...@polycom.com wrote:
If what the FM10 help says is correct, this is because FM10 apparently didn’t 
import the graphics in native SVG format (emphasis added):


When importing a Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG), the SVG Import dialog box 
allows the user to select the rasterization quality of the image. By increasing 
the rasterization quality, printed and PDF versions are crisper; however, 
increasing the rasterization also increases the file size of the image, and it 
takes longer to import it.

FrameMaker prints Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG) images to PostScript printers 
by rendering the images as vector graphics using Encapsulated PostScript (EPS). 
For non-PostScript printers, FrameMaker uses the FrameImage format.
If I’m interpreting this correctly, FM10 converted SVGs to raster (bitmapped) 
images on import. It rendered those bitmaps as vector graphics when outputting 
to a PostScript device (printer or PDF), but at that point the text is not 
text, just lines – vectors describing a sequence of dots.

So the damage is done upon import, and nothing done subsequently can undo it. 
You have to reimport the original SVGs.

My sympathies.


From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
 On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:22 AM
To: Davis, David
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Syed,
Are these brand new files created by FM12, or are these files you converted 
from an earlier version? I ask because I've discovered that (at least for me) 
the text-searchable SVG graphic bug, which is listed as fixed for FM12, is only 
fixed if you're talking about new documents. None of the documents I have that 
were converted from FM10 to FM12 will produce PDFs with text-searchable SVG 
graphics. All of the documents that are created in FM12 produce PDFs with 
searchable SVG graphics.

So far I've determined that MIF-washing doesn't fix this, that you can't simply 
import the contents of the FM10 file into the FM12 file, and that you can't 
copy  paste using the Frame Interchange Format. Copy  pasting as Unicode text 
does work, but of course you then have to reapply all your formatting tags and 
recreate all your xrefs and conditionaled content. Oddly, you can copy and 
paste the tables in without causing an issue.

Note that my company's workflow is to use unstructured FM with embedded 
graphics; I do not know if this applies to structured FM or XML files or 
referenced graphics.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Davis, David 
david.da...@non.schneider-electric.commailto:david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com
 wrote:
If people have a problem with a specific bug, I really would recommend logging 
it in the Adobe bug tracker.
When I logged my CMYK issue, there was already one other bug report in there 
for the same thing, and I did get a fix within about 3 months,
which is a pretty good turnaround for a behemoth like FrameMaker!
The more people log a bug. the higher a priority it will get with their dev 
team.

David

From: Denis Daly [d.d...@icpnewtech.commailto:d.d...@icpnewtech.com]
Sent: 27 February 2015 08:56
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.netmailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net); 
Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Please keep us informed of your experiences with the CMYK issue Syed.

I (along with many others) was hoping this latest update would have solved the 
problem.

Denis

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RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

Oh, wait – I missed your previous message. So I’m guessing it’s reimporting 
that you tried unsuccessfully, and then it worked the second time.

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard (CW)
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:57 AM
To: Lin Sims
Cc: Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Hmm. Then it made a liar out of the FM10 help, too. Maybe that “rasterization” 
language was left over from earlier releases…

From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:16 AM
To: Combs, Richard (CW)
Cc: Davis, David; 
framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

And it's making a liar out of me. I just tried it again, and this time it 
worked.
Honestly, sometimes it isn't even worth banging your head against a table.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Lin Sims 
ljsims...@gmail.commailto:ljsims...@gmail.com wrote:
I tried that, too, actually. First thing I did, and I should have listed it.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Combs, Richard (CW) 
richard.co...@polycom.commailto:richard.co...@polycom.com wrote:
If what the FM10 help says is correct, this is because FM10 apparently didn’t 
import the graphics in native SVG format (emphasis added):


When importing a Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG), the SVG Import dialog box 
allows the user to select the rasterization quality of the image. By increasing 
the rasterization quality, printed and PDF versions are crisper; however, 
increasing the rasterization also increases the file size of the image, and it 
takes longer to import it.

FrameMaker prints Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG) images to PostScript printers 
by rendering the images as vector graphics using Encapsulated PostScript (EPS). 
For non-PostScript printers, FrameMaker uses the FrameImage format.
If I’m interpreting this correctly, FM10 converted SVGs to raster (bitmapped) 
images on import. It rendered those bitmaps as vector graphics when outputting 
to a PostScript device (printer or PDF), but at that point the text is not 
text, just lines – vectors describing a sequence of dots.

So the damage is done upon import, and nothing done subsequently can undo it. 
You have to reimport the original SVGs.

My sympathies.


From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
 On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:22 AM
To: Davis, David
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Syed,
Are these brand new files created by FM12, or are these files you converted 
from an earlier version? I ask because I've discovered that (at least for me) 
the text-searchable SVG graphic bug, which is listed as fixed for FM12, is only 
fixed if you're talking about new documents. None of the documents I have that 
were converted from FM10 to FM12 will produce PDFs with text-searchable SVG 
graphics. All of the documents that are created in FM12 produce PDFs with 
searchable SVG graphics.

So far I've determined that MIF-washing doesn't fix this, that you can't simply 
import the contents of the FM10 file into the FM12 file, and that you can't 
copy  paste using the Frame Interchange Format. Copy  pasting as Unicode text 
does work, but of course you then have to reapply all your formatting tags and 
recreate all your xrefs and conditionaled content. Oddly, you can copy and 
paste the tables in without causing an issue.

Note that my company's workflow is to use unstructured FM with embedded 
graphics; I do not know if this applies to structured FM or XML files or 
referenced graphics.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Davis, David 
david.da...@non.schneider-electric.commailto:david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com
 wrote:
If people have a problem with a specific bug, I really would recommend logging 
it in the Adobe bug tracker.
When I logged my CMYK issue, there was already one other bug report in there 
for the same thing, and I did get a fix within about 3 months,
which is a pretty good turnaround for a behemoth like FrameMaker!
The more people log a bug. the higher a priority it will get with their dev 
team.

David

From: Denis Daly [d.d...@icpnewtech.commailto:d.d...@icpnewtech.com]
Sent: 27 February 2015 08:56
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.netmailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net); 
Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Please keep us informed of your experiences with the CMYK issue Syed.

I (along with many others) was hoping this latest update would have solved the 
problem.

Denis

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RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

If what the FM10 help says is correct, this is because FM10 apparently didn’t 
import the graphics in native SVG format (emphasis added):


When importing a Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG), the SVG Import dialog box 
allows the user to select the rasterization quality of the image. By increasing 
the rasterization quality, printed and PDF versions are crisper; however, 
increasing the rasterization also increases the file size of the image, and it 
takes longer to import it.

FrameMaker prints Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG) images to PostScript printers 
by rendering the images as vector graphics using Encapsulated PostScript (EPS). 
For non-PostScript printers, FrameMaker uses the FrameImage format.
If I’m interpreting this correctly, FM10 converted SVGs to raster (bitmapped) 
images on import. It rendered those bitmaps as vector graphics when outputting 
to a PostScript device (printer or PDF), but at that point the text is not 
text, just lines – vectors describing a sequence of dots.

So the damage is done upon import, and nothing done subsequently can undo it. 
You have to reimport the original SVGs.

My sympathies.


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:22 AM
To: Davis, David
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Syed,
Are these brand new files created by FM12, or are these files you converted 
from an earlier version? I ask because I've discovered that (at least for me) 
the text-searchable SVG graphic bug, which is listed as fixed for FM12, is only 
fixed if you're talking about new documents. None of the documents I have that 
were converted from FM10 to FM12 will produce PDFs with text-searchable SVG 
graphics. All of the documents that are created in FM12 produce PDFs with 
searchable SVG graphics.

So far I've determined that MIF-washing doesn't fix this, that you can't simply 
import the contents of the FM10 file into the FM12 file, and that you can't 
copy  paste using the Frame Interchange Format. Copy  pasting as Unicode text 
does work, but of course you then have to reapply all your formatting tags and 
recreate all your xrefs and conditionaled content. Oddly, you can copy and 
paste the tables in without causing an issue.

Note that my company's workflow is to use unstructured FM with embedded 
graphics; I do not know if this applies to structured FM or XML files or 
referenced graphics.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Davis, David 
david.da...@non.schneider-electric.commailto:david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com
 wrote:
If people have a problem with a specific bug, I really would recommend logging 
it in the Adobe bug tracker.
When I logged my CMYK issue, there was already one other bug report in there 
for the same thing, and I did get a fix within about 3 months,
which is a pretty good turnaround for a behemoth like FrameMaker!
The more people log a bug. the higher a priority it will get with their dev 
team.

David

From: Denis Daly [d.d...@icpnewtech.commailto:d.d...@icpnewtech.com]
Sent: 27 February 2015 08:56
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.netmailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net); 
Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Please keep us informed of your experiences with the CMYK issue Syed.

I (along with many others) was hoping this latest update would have solved the 
problem.

Denis

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RE: Frame vs. Flare for My Needs

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

I'll second that. Mif2Go produces decent Word output right out of the box, 
and you can customize it to a fare-thee-well.

BTW, hi everybody. I'm working again, and back on the list.

Richard

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:36 PM
To: 'Kevin Ryan'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame vs. Flare for My Needs

Hi Kevin,

If you are using Mif2Go for HTML, you can set it up to output RTF as well. This 
should satisfy the MS Word requirement and allow you to stay wit FrameMaker.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
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From: 
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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Ryan
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 3:21 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame vs. Flare for My Needs

Hi,

I could use the advice of some Frame veterans on whether a switch from Frame to 
Flare might be a delusion-inspired wrong turn for me, or possibly the right way 
to go.

My company's primary documentation output is PDF user/training/reference guides 
authored on FrameMaker 7. Not the current Frame version, I know, but sufficient 
with our good templates to produce solid, professional-looking documents we're 
proud of. Other current deliverables include context-sensitive HTML topics 
produced via Mif2go and a limited number of Process Assistance MS Word 
topics.  These latter are a sort of MS-Word help equivalent that our customers 
can download from our application, edit if necessary, and even upload back into 
our application for others if they want to. I create Process Assistance MS-Word 
topics by cutting from Frame and pasting into Word, followed by manual 
reformatting (ouch).

Our customers (utilities) have been requesting another MS Word output:  
Editable MS Word versions of our 20-300 page PDF manuals so that they can edit 
them for their own purposes (such as internal training).  Unfortunately, we've 
been unable to find a workable Frame-to-Word conversion process to this end.  I 
can do manual reformatting to Word in our short Process Assistance topics, but 
to do it on entire manuals would give me a nervous breakdown.

So, with better MS-Word output generation as my primary goal, I've been 
considering a switch to Flare. Its capability to output in PDF, Word, and HTML 
seems as though it might ultimately streamline our processes. As I test Flare 
by my 30-day trial, though, I'm reminded of the many things FrameMaker does 
really well - things I might be losing if I made the switch:  For example, 
precise page layouts, complex graphics, robust tables. To its credit, Flare 
seems to offer output versatility, excellent documentation and support, and a 
lot of Marketing momentum.

Am I misguiding myself?  Barking up the wrong tree?

Thanks for any opinions or comments.

Kevin Ryan
Technical Writer
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RE: Welcome back! (Was: RE: Frame vs. Flare for My Needs)

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

Thanks, Lea! It's nice to be working again, and among people I know, like, and 
respect. Although I do miss those afternoon naps with my cat. :)

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Welcome  back to the fray, Richard!

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Subject: RE: Frame vs. Flare for My Needs

I'll second that. Mif2Go produces decent Word output right out of the box, 
and you can customize it to a fare-thee-well.

BTW, hi everybody. I'm working again, and back on the list.

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