Missing graphics links

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

  Hi Sue,

This answer is off the top of my head, so the details may not be 
completely accurate!

When you first open the file and the dialog comes up asking for the 
graphic and directory, toward the top of the dialog it tells you the 
filename it is looking for. Browse in your moved/copied folder to look 
for that graphic. Have the "update to use this path" radio button 
checked and you should be ok.

Hope this helps.

Don.

On 9/3/2010 9:19 AM, smcurtzwiler at comcast.net wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm using Frame 7.2 on Windows XP
>
>
>
> I recently copied the main folder with the Frame files and the graphics 
> folders - all together - into a new folder and changed the name on the new 
> folder.
>
> I'm now working for a retail store chain.
>
>
>
>
>
> When I open the Frame files in the new folder, it comes up with missing 
> graphics.  I thought as long as I copied all of the original files and 
> graphics together at the same time, this problem would be avoided.
>
>
>
> Since I am now making another version of the same book - nearly the same info 
> - I have also changed the name of the file in the new folder.
>
>  (I'll want to ask about Conditional text later.)
>
>
>
>
>
> I read the section in the Frame 7 Reference book (ya know, the big book).
>
> Now, how to reconnect the graphics?
>
>
>
> It seems I should click on "update to new path" - but I'm not sure what file 
> name goes into which box.
>
> I know, this should be done with blinders on, but -- oh well,   any advice 
> will be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sue Curtzwiler
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Re: Missing graphics links

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

 Hi Sue,

This answer is off the top of my head, so the details may not be 
completely accurate!


When you first open the file and the dialog comes up asking for the 
graphic and directory, toward the top of the dialog it tells you the 
filename it is looking for. Browse in your moved/copied folder to look 
for that graphic. Have the "update to use this path" radio button 
checked and you should be ok.


Hope this helps.

Don.

On 9/3/2010 9:19 AM, smcurtzwi...@comcast.net wrote:




Hi,



I'm using Frame 7.2 on Windows XP



I recently copied the main folder with the Frame files and the graphics folders 
- all together - into a new folder and changed the name on the new folder.

I'm now working for a retail store chain.





When I open the Frame files in the new folder, it comes up with missing 
graphics.  I thought as long as I copied all of the original files and graphics 
together at the same time, this problem would be avoided.



Since I am now making another version of the same book - nearly the same info - 
I have also changed the name of the file in the new folder.

 (I'll want to ask about Conditional text later.)





I read the section in the Frame 7 Reference book (ya know, the big book).

Now, how to reconnect the graphics?



It seems I should click on "update to new path" - but I'm not sure what file 
name goes into which box.

I know, this should be done with blinders on, but -- oh well,   any advice will 
be appreciated.





Thanks,

Sue Curtzwiler
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Finding OLE Objects

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the info... Right, LOR... that's what I was thinking when I 
typed LOF... I hadn't thought of using the LOR that way before, but it's 
a good idea.

In my initial look, I found some graphics that appeared to have been 
made with the graphic tools, but I don't think those would be OLEs... 
perhaps they were made elsewhere and copied into the doc. I'll keep 
investigating.

Thanks,
Don

Combs, Richard wrote:
> Donald M Rinderknecht wrote: 
>  
>   
>> I'm using FM 8 for this file... forgot to mention that, but the Edit >
>> Links doesn't show anything.
>> In looking at the MIF I see it though:
>>
>> 
>>>  ...
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> =OLE2
>>> &%v
>>> &\xD0CF11E0A1B11AE1...
>>>   
>> Don't see anything in the doc... body or ref pages.
>>
>> Would it show in a LOF?
>> 
>
> FM 9 or 8 has nothing to do with it. In 7.2, if I import an OLE object linked 
> to file and select Edit > Links, it's listed. If the Links dialog doesn't 
> show anything, that means whoever imported the OLE objects simply embedded 
> them in the doc instead of linking to a file. A really, really bad idea, 
> IMHO. 
>
> LOF won't help -- you simply define which paragraphs it includes. What can 
> help is a List of References. Select Imported Graphics to include. Then use 
> the LOR as a graphic eliminator as you page through the book. When you get to 
> a graphic that's not listed in the LOR, it's either an embedded graphic or an 
> OLE object. 
>
> HTH! 
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-903-6372
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>   


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Re: Finding OLE Objects

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the info... Right, LOR... that's what I was thinking when I 
typed LOF... I hadn't thought of using the LOR that way before, but it's 
a good idea.


In my initial look, I found some graphics that appeared to have been 
made with the graphic tools, but I don't think those would be OLEs... 
perhaps they were made elsewhere and copied into the doc. I'll keep 
investigating.


Thanks,
Don

Combs, Richard wrote:
Donald M Rinderknecht wrote: 
 
  

I'm using FM 8 for this file... forgot to mention that, but the Edit >
Links doesn't show anything.
In looking at the MIF I see it though:



 ...

   
   
   
   
=OLE2
&%v
&\xD0CF11E0A1B11AE1...
  

Don't see anything in the doc... body or ref pages.

Would it show in a LOF?



FM 9 or 8 has nothing to do with it. In 7.2, if I import an OLE object linked to file and select Edit > Links, it's listed. If the Links dialog doesn't show anything, that means whoever imported the OLE objects simply embedded them in the doc instead of linking to a file. A really, really bad idea, IMHO. 

LOF won't help -- you simply define which paragraphs it includes. What can help is a List of References. Select Imported Graphics to include. Then use the LOR as a graphic eliminator as you page through the book. When you get to a graphic that's not listed in the LOR, it's either an embedded graphic or an OLE object. 

HTH! 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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Finding OLE Objects

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Nadine,

I'm using FM 8 for this file... forgot to mention that, but the Edit > 
Links doesn't show anything.
In looking at the MIF I see it though:

>  ...
> 
>
>
>
>
> =OLE2
> &%v
> &\xD0CF11E0A1B11AE1...
Don't see anything in the doc... body or ref pages.

Would it show in a LOF?

Thanks,
Don.

Writer wrote:
> According to the FM 9 user's guide, "To list OLE links, choose Edit > Links". 
> Does that work?
>
> Nadine
>
> --- On Wed, 8/25/10, Donald M Rinderknecht  noaa.gov> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Donald M Rinderknecht 
>> Subject: Finding OLE Objects
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 3:59 PM
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I'm cleaning up a book and I have a couple of docs with
>> OLE2 objects in them.
>> How can I find them in the fm file?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don
>> P.S. Sorry if a duplicate appears, but I sent this about 7
>> hours ago and haven't seen it on the list yet.
>>
>> 
>
>   


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Finding OLE Objects

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Guys,

I'm cleaning up a book and I have a couple of docs with OLE2 objects in 
them.
How can I find them in the fm file?

Thanks,
Don
P.S. Sorry if a duplicate appears, but I sent this about 7 hours ago and 
haven't seen it on the list yet.

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Re: Finding OLE Objects

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Nadine,

I'm using FM 8 for this file... forgot to mention that, but the Edit > 
Links doesn't show anything.

In looking at the MIF I see it though:


 ...

   
   
   
   
=OLE2
&%v
&\xD0CF11E0A1B11AE1...

Don't see anything in the doc... body or ref pages.

Would it show in a LOF?

Thanks,
Don.

Writer wrote:

According to the FM 9 user's guide, "To list OLE links, choose Edit > Links". 
Does that work?

Nadine

--- On Wed, 8/25/10, Donald M Rinderknecht  
wrote:

  

From: Donald M Rinderknecht 
Subject: Finding OLE Objects
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 3:59 PM
Hi Guys,

I'm cleaning up a book and I have a couple of docs with
OLE2 objects in them.
How can I find them in the fm file?

Thanks,
Don
P.S. Sorry if a duplicate appears, but I sent this about 7
hours ago and haven't seen it on the list yet.




  



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Finding OLE Objects

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Guys,

I'm cleaning up a book and I have a couple of docs with OLE2 objects in 
them.

How can I find them in the fm file?

Thanks,
Don
P.S. Sorry if a duplicate appears, but I sent this about 7 hours ago and 
haven't seen it on the list yet.


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Compare: Multiple Flows with same name

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Aha!

The ol' flow on a reference page trick! That was it.

Thanks, Shlomo.

Don.

Shlomo Perets wrote:
> Don,
>
> You wrote:
>
>> I guess it's my day for Frame questions
>>
>> Seeing this in both FM8 and FM9.
>>
>> I'm comparing two docs that I KNOW are different. When I run the
>> Compare utility, I get a dialog that says there are multiple Flows
>> with the same name ('A') and the flows will be ignored. The compare
>> comes back as the two files being identical.
>>
>> When I try to look for the multiple flows, I only see one. Any advice
>> on finding the multiple flows of the same name?
>
>
> When I encountered a similar message, the problem had to do with the 
> "A" flow present in text frames on the reference page(s) of the 
> documents being compared (which is of no practical significance and 
> should have been ignored for document comparison purposes).
>
> Try locating such text frames in Reference pages and modify accordingly.
>
>
> Shlomo Perets
>
> MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
> FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat 
> TimeSavers/Assistants
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Re: Compare: Multiple Flows with same name

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Aha!

The ol' flow on a reference page trick! That was it.

Thanks, Shlomo.

Don.

Shlomo Perets wrote:

Don,

You wrote:


I guess it's my day for Frame questions

Seeing this in both FM8 and FM9.

I'm comparing two docs that I KNOW are different. When I run the
Compare utility, I get a dialog that says there are multiple Flows
with the same name ('A') and the flows will be ignored. The compare
comes back as the two files being identical.

When I try to look for the multiple flows, I only see one. Any advice
on finding the multiple flows of the same name?



When I encountered a similar message, the problem had to do with the 
"A" flow present in text frames on the reference page(s) of the 
documents being compared (which is of no practical significance and 
should have been ignored for document comparison purposes).


Try locating such text frames in Reference pages and modify accordingly.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants

Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Acrobat courses





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Compare: Multiple Flows with same name

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

I guess it's my day for Frame questions

Seeing this in both FM8 and FM9.

I'm comparing two docs that I KNOW are different. When I run the Compare 
utility, I get a dialog that says there are multiple Flows with the same 
name ('A') and the flows will be ignored. The compare comes back as the 
two files being identical.

When I try to look for the multiple flows, I only see one. Any advice on 
finding the multiple flows of the same name?

Thanks,
Don

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Book Filenames with Complete Path?

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Update:

I was looking at the book file in Frame 8. In Frame 9 I can see the full 
path.

On a related note, is there any way, other than Bruce Foster's Archive 
plugin to move a book and all of its assets to another location?

Thanks,
Don

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Donald M Rinderknecht wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I've got a book with files in many subdirectories. Unfortunately in 
> the book display, the paths to the files are abbreviated like: 
> c:/files/.../anotherdirectory/filename.fm
>
> Is there an easy way to see the complete path so I can make sure I'm 
> working with the correct file and directory?
>
> thanks,
> don
>

Book Filenames with Complete Path?

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Guys,

I've got a book with files in many subdirectories. Unfortunately in the 
book display, the paths to the files are abbreviated like: 
c:/files/.../anotherdirectory/filename.fm

Is there an easy way to see the complete path so I can make sure I'm 
working with the correct file and directory?

thanks,
don

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Compare: Multiple Flows with same name

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

I guess it's my day for Frame questions

Seeing this in both FM8 and FM9.

I'm comparing two docs that I KNOW are different. When I run the Compare 
utility, I get a dialog that says there are multiple Flows with the same 
name ('A') and the flows will be ignored. The compare comes back as the 
two files being identical.


When I try to look for the multiple flows, I only see one. Any advice on 
finding the multiple flows of the same name?


Thanks,
Don

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Re: Book Filenames with Complete Path?

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Update:

I was looking at the book file in Frame 8. In Frame 9 I can see the full 
path.


On a related note, is there any way, other than Bruce Foster's Archive 
plugin to move a book and all of its assets to another location?


Thanks,
Don

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Donald M Rinderknecht wrote:

Hi Guys,

I've got a book with files in many subdirectories. Unfortunately in 
the book display, the paths to the files are abbreviated like: 
c:/files/.../anotherdirectory/filename.fm


Is there an easy way to see the complete path so I can make sure I'm 
working with the correct file and directory?


thanks,
don


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Book Filenames with Complete Path?

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Guys,

I've got a book with files in many subdirectories. Unfortunately in the 
book display, the paths to the files are abbreviated like: 
c:/files/.../anotherdirectory/filename.fm


Is there an easy way to see the complete path so I can make sure I'm 
working with the correct file and directory?


thanks,
don

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OT: Sebastian

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Ann,

It's ok about sending to the list.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
Our four legged friends are much more than just friends

Don.

Ann Zdunczyk wrote:
> I am so sorry for sending this to the Framers list. I meant to send it to
> the e-mail listed just below in my address book.
>
>  
>
> Sorry again.
>
>  
>
> **
> Ann Zdunczyk
> President, JOAT, SWAG
> a2z Publishing, Inc.
> Language Layout,  Translation Consulting, & Template Creation
> Phone: (336)922-1271
> Fax:   (888)523-2028
> Cell:  (336)456-4493
> Cell 2:(336)655-4783
> http://www.a2z-pub.com  
> **
>
>  
>
> From: Ann Zdunczyk [mailto:azdunczyk at triad.rr.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:57 PM
> To: Liz Bozeman (wpbozeman at windstream.net); wolfmoon at northstate.net;
> 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'; 'Brenda Laffoon'; 'Barbara Parr'; 'Anne
> Mills'; 'cat at webfresco.com'; Patricia Callow
> Subject: Sebastian
>
>  
>
> As of 2:30 pm Tuesday my heart is broken. I had to put Sebastian to sleep.
> He was about 17 years old. Not sure if he had a stroke or what but he got to
> where he staggered around. This happened very quickly on Monday. I took him
> to the vet and they started him on antibiotics since his kidneys looked like
> they were starting to fail. Tuesday he was worse and could not hold his head
> up or walk at all. 
>
>  
>
> He has been my love, protector, and friend. I will miss him so much as will
> his brother from the same litter. We still have Rusty.
>
>  
>
> **
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Re: OT: Sebastian

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Ann,

It's ok about sending to the list.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
Our four legged friends are much more than just friends

Don.

Ann Zdunczyk wrote:

I am so sorry for sending this to the Framers list. I meant to send it to
the e-mail listed just below in my address book.

 


Sorry again.

 


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From: Ann Zdunczyk [mailto:azdunc...@triad.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:57 PM

To: Liz Bozeman (wpboze...@windstream.net); wolfm...@northstate.net;
'framers@lists.frameusers.com'; 'Brenda Laffoon'; 'Barbara Parr'; 'Anne
Mills'; 'c...@webfresco.com'; Patricia Callow
Subject: Sebastian

 


As of 2:30 pm Tuesday my heart is broken. I had to put Sebastian to sleep.
He was about 17 years old. Not sure if he had a stroke or what but he got to
where he staggered around. This happened very quickly on Monday. I took him
to the vet and they started him on antibiotics since his kidneys looked like
they were starting to fail. Tuesday he was worse and could not hold his head
up or walk at all. 

 


He has been my love, protector, and friend. I will miss him so much as will
his brother from the same litter. We still have Rusty.

 


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Creating Graphic Buttons

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Bill,

I also got a call from Rick Quatro explaining this method. Thanks to 
both of you for your assistance.

I put the graphic in an anchored frame with a text box over it which 
contains the hypertext marker. Works fine!

Next step is to make navigation from one PDF back to the previous one 
work. When I use the Open Document as New hypertext marker, the 
button/link doesn't work. But the Open Document hypertext marker is 
fine, but when clicking on it, the new pdf opens in the same window. 
This is not a huge problem as I could put a link back to the original 
doc in the second one, or the user could use the previous view button in 
the reader but mine was turned off by default

Thanks,
Don.

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Bill Swallow wrote:
> Yes, you can do this. Create it as a hypertext link, define your
> target as normal, but instead of a textual launch point, you use a
> graphic.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Donald M Rinderknecht
>  wrote:
>   
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I would like to be able to link to another Frame document by using a
>> graphic as a button in a paragraph (thinking anchored frame inserted at
>> insertion point) instead of a cross-reference or hypertext link.
>>
>> Is there a way to do this?
>>
>> I'm using Frame 9  (I also have Frame 8 available).
>> 
>
>   

Creating Graphic Buttons

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi All,

I would like to be able to link to another Frame document by using a 
graphic as a button in a paragraph (thinking anchored frame inserted at 
insertion point) instead of a cross-reference or hypertext link.

Is there a way to do this?

I'm using Frame 9  (I also have Frame 8 available).

Thanks,
Don

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Re: Creating Graphic Buttons

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Bill,

I also got a call from Rick Quatro explaining this method. Thanks to 
both of you for your assistance.

I put the graphic in an anchored frame with a text box over it which 
contains the hypertext marker. Works fine!

Next step is to make navigation from one PDF back to the previous one 
work. When I use the Open Document as New hypertext marker, the 
button/link doesn't work. But the Open Document hypertext marker is 
fine, but when clicking on it, the new pdf opens in the same window. 
This is not a huge problem as I could put a link back to the original 
doc in the second one, or the user could use the previous view button in 
the reader but mine was turned off by default

Thanks,
Don.

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Meteorologist Instructor/Developer
Warning Decision Training Branch, Norman, OK
http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov

"The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." 
- Cdr Montgomery Scott, Star Trek III



Bill Swallow wrote:
> Yes, you can do this. Create it as a hypertext link, define your
> target as normal, but instead of a textual launch point, you use a
> graphic.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Donald M Rinderknecht
>  wrote:
>   
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I would like to be able to link to another Frame document by using a
>> graphic as a button in a paragraph (thinking anchored frame inserted at
>> insertion point) instead of a cross-reference or hypertext link.
>>
>> Is there a way to do this?
>>
>> I'm using Frame 9  (I also have Frame 8 available).
>> 
>
>   
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Hi All,

I would like to be able to link to another Frame document by using a 
graphic as a button in a paragraph (thinking anchored frame inserted at 
insertion point) instead of a cross-reference or hypertext link.

Is there a way to do this?

I'm using Frame 9  (I also have Frame 8 available).

Thanks,
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Final summary TCS2

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Wow. I'm counting my lucky stars. I installed TCS2 and haven't had any 
of these issues (gee, I shouldn't say that should I)

Don.

Re: Final summary TCS2

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Wow. I'm counting my lucky stars. I installed TCS2 and haven't had any 
of these issues (gee, I shouldn't say that should I)

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Source Control for Frame

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Gillian,

Other than the diff report (which I assume provides more details than 
just a time/date stamp) is SVN useful?

I've been wanting some centralized document management for our 
FrameMaker (and other) files for a long time. We have several folks that 
author materials, sometimes in teams. I'd like to have check in/check 
out and versioning at the very least. It would be really cool to be able 
to metatag content and search for it also.

Folks have mentioned going to MIF files or XML. Wouldn't those options 
add steps to the workflow? I assume they (MIF or XML) would affect the 
workflow in a similar fashion. Also, going to XML would require 
structure (I assume) so I don't think we're ready for that. We've 
started to use structure in some docs, but I haven't had time to 
implement that broadly.

What is PDM?

Thanks,
don.

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Flato, Gillian wrote:
> Is there any source control out there that works really well with Frame?
> We have subversion here, but that can only read ASCII files. It stores
> Frame's proprietary files and graphics, but it can't do a diff report on
> them. Or at least, is there any source control that can read PDFs and do
> diff reports on them?
>  
> Has anyone tried using PDM with Frame? My engineers are planning on
> implementing that for their DWG files and I could probably use it too.
>  
>
> Thank you,
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Gillian Flato
>
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What's the latest on Document Management?

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Of course, right after I posted this, I see Gillian's thread on "Source 
Control for Frame".

Let's use that thread.

Don.

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Donald M Rinderknecht wrote:
> Hi Framers,
>
> I've been wanting some centralized document management for our 
> FrameMaker (and other) files for a long time.
>
> We have several folks that author materials, sometimes in teams. I'd 
> like to have check in/check out and versioning at the very least.
>
> Does anyone have some advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
>   

What's the latest on Document Management?

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Framers,

I've been wanting some centralized document management for our 
FrameMaker (and other) files for a long time.

We have several folks that author materials, sometimes in teams. I'd 
like to have check in/check out and versioning at the very least.

Does anyone have some advice?

Thanks,
Don

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- Cdr Montgomery Scott, Star Trek III

Re: Source Control for Frame

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Gillian,

Other than the diff report (which I assume provides more details than 
just a time/date stamp) is SVN useful?

I've been wanting some centralized document management for our 
FrameMaker (and other) files for a long time. We have several folks that 
author materials, sometimes in teams. I'd like to have check in/check 
out and versioning at the very least. It would be really cool to be able 
to metatag content and search for it also.

Folks have mentioned going to MIF files or XML. Wouldn't those options 
add steps to the workflow? I assume they (MIF or XML) would affect the 
workflow in a similar fashion. Also, going to XML would require 
structure (I assume) so I don't think we're ready for that. We've 
started to use structure in some docs, but I haven't had time to 
implement that broadly.

What is PDM?

Thanks,
don.

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Meteorologist Instructor/Developer
Warning Decision Training Branch, Norman, OK
http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov

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- Cdr Montgomery Scott, Star Trek III



Flato, Gillian wrote:
> Is there any source control out there that works really well with Frame?
> We have subversion here, but that can only read ASCII files. It stores
> Frame's proprietary files and graphics, but it can't do a diff report on
> them. Or at least, is there any source control that can read PDFs and do
> diff reports on them?
>  
> Has anyone tried using PDM with Frame? My engineers are planning on
> implementing that for their DWG files and I could probably use it too.
>  
>
> Thank you,
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Gillian Flato
>
> Technical Writer (Software)
>
> nanometrics
>
> 1550 Buckeye Dr. 
>
> Milpitas, CA. 95035
>
> (408.545.6316
>
> 7  408.232.5911
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Re: What's the latest on Document Management?

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Of course, right after I posted this, I see Gillian's thread on "Source 
Control for Frame".

Let's use that thread.

Don.

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Donald M Rinderknecht wrote:
> Hi Framers,
>
> I've been wanting some centralized document management for our 
> FrameMaker (and other) files for a long time.
>
> We have several folks that author materials, sometimes in teams. I'd 
> like to have check in/check out and versioning at the very least.
>
> Does anyone have some advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
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What's the latest on Document Management?

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Framers,

I've been wanting some centralized document management for our 
FrameMaker (and other) files for a long time.

We have several folks that author materials, sometimes in teams. I'd 
like to have check in/check out and versioning at the very least.

Does anyone have some advice?

Thanks,
Don

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Tech Comm Suite Advantages?

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I have Frame 8 and Captivate 3.
What would be the advantages to me in the Tech Comm suite?

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lest we forget

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Wow. And I thought that _I_ had been using Frame for a long time... what 
version were they using then?

:D

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Graeme R Forbes wrote:
> It seems that our history goes back further than you thought. From 
> David Lyons' coffee-table book "Scotland", p. 184, reproduced as 
> printed, but for the elisions:
>
> ...the event which most shaped Highlanders were the Highland 
> Clearances, which started in the late 18th and continued into the 
> early 19th century...this was when ambitious landowners cleared the 
> land of people in favor of sheep farming...the upshot was that 
> thousands of poor framers...were thrown off their ancestral lands or 
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> resources to help them.
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> Tout ca change, if you're on a Mac.
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Re: lest we forget

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Wow. And I thought that _I_ had been using Frame for a long time... what 
version were they using then?


:D

don.

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Graeme R Forbes wrote:
It seems that our history goes back further than you thought. From 
David Lyons' coffee-table book "Scotland", p. 184, reproduced as 
printed, but for the elisions:


...the event which most shaped Highlanders were the Highland 
Clearances, which started in the late 18th and continued into the 
early 19th century...this was when ambitious landowners cleared the 
land of people in favor of sheep farming...the upshot was that 
thousands of poor framers...were thrown off their ancestral lands or 
out of their townships to fend for themselves with little or no 
resources to help them.


Tout ca change, if you're on a Mac.

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URL Encoded Problem in PDF

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Gang,

I've got a link to a url that is being encoded by Acrobat, and not 
working when I click on it.

For example, the marker has "message URL 
http://www.site.com/~directory/index.html"; and the tilde is being 
encoded to %7E when the link is clicked, but appears as "~" in the PDF. 
If I manually paste the link (with ~ intact) it works fine.

Any  ideas? Is this a problem with my PDF or the target webserver?

Thanks,
Don.

Win XP Pro SP2, Frame 7.2p158, Distiller 7.0.7, Powered by Gevalia.

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URL Encoded Problem in PDF

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi Gang,

I've got a link to a url that is being encoded by Acrobat, and not 
working when I click on it.


For example, the marker has "message URL 
http://www.site.com/~directory/index.html"; and the tilde is being 
encoded to %7E when the link is clicked, but appears as "~" in the PDF. 
If I manually paste the link (with ~ intact) it works fine.


Any  ideas? Is this a problem with my PDF or the target webserver?

Thanks,
Don.

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Hypertext Link Strangeness

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi All,

I've got one for you I am making hypertext links active in the PDF 
output by using a "message URL" hypertext marker. I use a character tag 
to identify the text to include in the link. This has worked fine for me 
in the past in unstructured docs.

I have recently noticed that in my structured doc the link is not 
working the way I expect. In some cases I get only a part of the address 
in the link or no active link at all.

Could this be related to 7.2 or the fact that I am using a structured 
doc? Do I need to define an element for the link?

Thanks,
Don.

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Hypertext Link Strangeness

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi All,

I've got one for you I am making hypertext links active in the PDF 
output by using a "message URL" hypertext marker. I use a character tag 
to identify the text to include in the link. This has worked fine for me 
in the past in unstructured docs.


I have recently noticed that in my structured doc the link is not 
working the way I expect. In some cases I get only a part of the address 
in the link or no active link at all.


Could this be related to 7.2 or the fact that I am using a structured 
doc? Do I need to define an element for the link?


Thanks,
Don.

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FM 7.2 starts much slower than 7.1

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Klaus,

My machine is similar in configuration to yours and Frame 7.2 loads in 
about 10 seconds. (7.1 is no longer on this machine.)
In my case, "Fonts" also takes the longest time to load (about 7 seconds 
for a couple hundred fonts).

Thanks,
Don.

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Klaus Daube wrote:

>   Dear all,
>
>   FM 7.2 starts very slow compared to 7.1 - what may be the reason?
>
>   Machine: 3 GHz, 1GB RAM, drives C[System[ and H[Programs] are on an SATA 100
>   disk
>
>   OS   XP SP2 with all automatic updates
>
>   FM   in both cases with Shlomo Perets' toolbar
>
>   location H:\Adobe\framemaker.72en\FrameMaker.exe
>
>H:\adobe\FrameMaker.71en\FrameMaker.exe
>
>   Starting FM 7.2b144 for the first time after Windows start
>
>   0  sec double click on framemaker.exe
>
>   7  splash sreen appears and immediately shows 'Fonts'
>
>  34  fonts are loaded and start sequnece continues
>
>  (thats 27 seconds for font business)
>
>  40  FM Window appears, start of plugins etc. begins
>
>   Further starts:
>
>   0  sec double click on framemaker.exe
>
>   5  FM Window appears, start of plugins etc. begins
>
>   Starting FM 7.1p116 for the first time after Windows start
>
>   0  sec double click on framemaker.exe
>
>  10  FM Window appears
>
>   Further starts:
>
>   0  sec double click on framemaker.exe
>
>   2  FM Window appears
>
>   What may be the reason for the much more time consuming font handling in FM
>   7.2?
>
>   Klaus Daube
>
>   
>
>   Docu + Design Daube; Sch??racher 11; CH-8053 Z??rich
>
>   Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
>
>   Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
>
>   E-mail: ddd at daube.ch  Web: www.daube.ch/
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Re: FM 7.2 starts much slower than 7.1

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Klaus,

My machine is similar in configuration to yours and Frame 7.2 loads in 
about 10 seconds. (7.1 is no longer on this machine.)
In my case, "Fonts" also takes the longest time to load (about 7 seconds 
for a couple hundred fonts).


Thanks,
Don.

Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov



Klaus Daube wrote:


  Dear all,

  FM 7.2 starts very slow compared to 7.1 - what may be the reason?

  Machine: 3 GHz, 1GB RAM, drives C[System[ and H[Programs] are on an SATA 100
  disk

  OS   XP SP2 with all automatic updates

  FM   in both cases with Shlomo Perets' toolbar

  location H:\Adobe\framemaker.72en\FrameMaker.exe

   H:\adobe\FrameMaker.71en\FrameMaker.exe

  Starting FM 7.2b144 for the first time after Windows start

  0  sec double click on framemaker.exe

  7  splash sreen appears and immediately shows 'Fonts'

 34  fonts are loaded and start sequnece continues

 (thats 27 seconds for font business)

 40  FM Window appears, start of plugins etc. begins

  Further starts:

  0  sec double click on framemaker.exe

  5  FM Window appears, start of plugins etc. begins

  Starting FM 7.1p116 for the first time after Windows start

  0  sec double click on framemaker.exe

 10  FM Window appears

  Further starts:

  0  sec double click on framemaker.exe

  2  FM Window appears

  What may be the reason for the much more time consuming font handling in FM
  7.2?

  Klaus Daube

  

  Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich

  Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper

  Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78

  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Web: www.daube.ch/
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Automate Outline Object

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

In this project I am opening an XML file using an application with XSLT 
and r/w rules.

Is it possible to specify a border around a graphic object in the EDD, 
or would this be a read/write rule?
Or is it just not possible?

I've been snooping around the Structured Dev Guide but haven't found 
anything yet.

Thanks,
Don.

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Donald M Rinderknecht wrote:

> All,
>
> Is there a way to automate putting an outline on a graphic object. 
> (Other than using FrameScript which I don't have.)
> I can do this manually by selecting the object then the Tools Palette 
> but I've got about 1200 graphic objects to modify.
>
> If not, I'll look at modifying the actual graphic to put a border on 
> them.
>
> Thanks,
> Don.
>

Re: Automate Outline Object

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

In this project I am opening an XML file using an application with XSLT 
and r/w rules.


Is it possible to specify a border around a graphic object in the EDD, 
or would this be a read/write rule?

Or is it just not possible?

I've been snooping around the Structured Dev Guide but haven't found 
anything yet.


Thanks,
Don.

Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov



Donald M Rinderknecht wrote:


All,

Is there a way to automate putting an outline on a graphic object. 
(Other than using FrameScript which I don't have.)
I can do this manually by selecting the object then the Tools Palette 
but I've got about 1200 graphic objects to modify.


If not, I'll look at modifying the actual graphic to put a border on 
them.


Thanks,
Don.


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Structured Opened in Standard Frame

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi All,

Just a quick confirmation when you open a structured Frame using the 
unstructured Frame interface and you choose to "Edit" rather than "View 
Only" the structure info is no longer there.

Is this a permanent thing? To recover the structured info do I have to 
treat it like any other unstructured to structured conversion?

Thanks,
don.

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Structured Opened in Standard Frame

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi All,

Just a quick confirmation when you open a structured Frame using the 
unstructured Frame interface and you choose to "Edit" rather than "View 
Only" the structure info is no longer there.


Is this a permanent thing? To recover the structured info do I have to 
treat it like any other unstructured to structured conversion?


Thanks,
don.

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Automate Outline Object

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

All,

Is there a way to automate putting an outline on a graphic object. 
(Other than using FrameScript which I don't have.)
I can do this manually by selecting the object then the Tools Palette 
but I've got about 1200 graphic objects to modify.

If not, I'll look at modifying the actual graphic to put a border on them.

Thanks,
Don.

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Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch
Donald.M.Rinderknecht at noaa.gov ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov

Automate Outline Object

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

All,

Is there a way to automate putting an outline on a graphic object. 
(Other than using FrameScript which I don't have.)
I can do this manually by selecting the object then the Tools Palette 
but I've got about 1200 graphic objects to modify.


If not, I'll look at modifying the actual graphic to put a border on them.

Thanks,
Don.

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Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch
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Modified EDD

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Thanks for the feedback!

I forgot to update my template! (Import the EDD into the template file 
specified in the application.)

Thanks,
Don.

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Donald M Rinderknecht wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I think I'm forgetting something basic but I need your assistance.
>
> I have a structured application.
> I made an edit to the EDD... (added a ? to a general rule).
>
> When I use the structured app, the new rule is not implemented.
> If I manually import the element defs it is.
>
> Q1. What did I forget to do to this structured app when updating my EDD?
>
> I put it in the correct folder (c:\Program 
> Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\strucure\xml\thisAppName).
>
> Q2. Just to double check, though... how can I find out what is defined 
> for $STRUCTDIR?
>
> Thanks,
> Don.
>

Modified EDD

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi All,

I think I'm forgetting something basic but I need your assistance.

I have a structured application.
I made an edit to the EDD... (added a ? to a general rule).

When I use the structured app, the new rule is not implemented.
If I manually import the element defs it is.

Q1. What did I forget to do to this structured app when updating my EDD?

I put it in the correct folder (c:\Program 
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\strucure\xml\thisAppName).

Q2. Just to double check, though... how can I find out what is defined 
for $STRUCTDIR?

Thanks,
Don.

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Re: Modified EDD

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Thanks for the feedback!

I forgot to update my template! (Import the EDD into the template file 
specified in the application.)


Thanks,
Don.

Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov



Donald M Rinderknecht wrote:


Hi All,

I think I'm forgetting something basic but I need your assistance.

I have a structured application.
I made an edit to the EDD... (added a ? to a general rule).

When I use the structured app, the new rule is not implemented.
If I manually import the element defs it is.

Q1. What did I forget to do to this structured app when updating my EDD?

I put it in the correct folder (c:\Program 
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\strucure\xml\thisAppName).


Q2. Just to double check, though... how can I find out what is defined 
for $STRUCTDIR?


Thanks,
Don.


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Modified EDD

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi All,

I think I'm forgetting something basic but I need your assistance.

I have a structured application.
I made an edit to the EDD... (added a ? to a general rule).

When I use the structured app, the new rule is not implemented.
If I manually import the element defs it is.

Q1. What did I forget to do to this structured app when updating my EDD?

I put it in the correct folder (c:\Program 
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\strucure\xml\thisAppName).


Q2. Just to double check, though... how can I find out what is defined 
for $STRUCTDIR?


Thanks,
Don.

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Info About XSL Processor in Frame 7.2?

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Thank you all for your assistance.
Again, Framers proves useful in record time!

Don.

Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch
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Donald M Rinderknecht wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to incorporate my XSL template into one of my Frame 
> Applications (in 7.2), but I'm getting a processor error that I didn't 
> get with Saxon.
>
> Is there information about the XSL processor in Frame 7.2 available?
>
> In the case of my application, it is choking on a 'replace' command:
>   /> 
>
> The error message is: "The function 'replace' was not found."
>
> Thanks,
> Don.
>

Info About XSL Processor in Frame 7.2?

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi,

I'm trying to incorporate my XSL template into one of my Frame 
Applications (in 7.2), but I'm getting a processor error that I didn't 
get with Saxon.

Is there information about the XSL processor in Frame 7.2 available?

In the case of my application, it is choking on a 'replace' command:
  

The error message is: "The function 'replace' was not found."

Thanks,
Don.

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Re: Info About XSL Processor in Frame 7.2?

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Thank you all for your assistance.
Again, Framers proves useful in record time!

Don.

Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch
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Donald M Rinderknecht wrote:


Hi,

I'm trying to incorporate my XSL template into one of my Frame 
Applications (in 7.2), but I'm getting a processor error that I didn't 
get with Saxon.


Is there information about the XSL processor in Frame 7.2 available?

In the case of my application, it is choking on a 'replace' command:
 /> 


The error message is: "The function 'replace' was not found."

Thanks,
Don.


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Info About XSL Processor in Frame 7.2?

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi,

I'm trying to incorporate my XSL template into one of my Frame 
Applications (in 7.2), but I'm getting a processor error that I didn't 
get with Saxon.


Is there information about the XSL processor in Frame 7.2 available?

In the case of my application, it is choking on a 'replace' command:
 /> 


The error message is: "The function 'replace' was not found."

Thanks,
Don.

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Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch
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MORE SPAM TO LIST MEMBERS

[Donald M. Rinderknecht]

Hi John,

I hate to see you go... I find this list PRICELESS in terms of the 
assistance it has provided me in my FrameMaker tasks over the years.

Hey, if you've only gotten TWO spams this year, consider yourself way 
ahead of the game! (I get about 200 per day it seems!)
This list is actually very clean in terms of  SPAM.

I barely remember the message in question. I thought it was just a list 
member offering services (which normally doesn't happen, btw).

Good Luck in your Frame endeavors.

Don.

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Re: MORE SPAM TO LIST MEMBERS

[Donald M. Rinderknecht]

Hi John,

I hate to see you go... I find this list PRICELESS in terms of the 
assistance it has provided me in my FrameMaker tasks over the years.


Hey, if you've only gotten TWO spams this year, consider yourself way 
ahead of the game! (I get about 200 per day it seems!)

This list is actually very clean in terms of  SPAM.

I barely remember the message in question. I thought it was just a list 
member offering services (which normally doesn't happen, btw).


Good Luck in your Frame endeavors.

Don.

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Meteorologist/Instructor
Warning Decision Training Branch
National Weather Service
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Can't Open a FM File

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Has anyone else tried opening it for you on another machine?

Thanks,
Don.

Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch$

- Original Message -
From: "Ridder, Fred" 
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:57 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note 
> that 
> these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do 
> a Save, FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of 
> the file with a second extension (.backup) rather than marking it 
> as an unused file that the OS can reallocate. In other words, the 
> "backup" file is always one save behind the real working file,
> and the magnitude of the difference depends on how frequently
> you remember to do manual saves. 
> 
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-
> bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
> Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
> *.backup.fm? 
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-
> bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> FM 7.0p578
> Windows XP Professional
> 512 MB RAM
> 
> I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
> tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 
> 2.7 MB,
> and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've 
> triedclosing everything and rebooting and then opening only that 
> file, but I
> get the same message.
> 
> There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
> problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
> work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 
> 
> I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
> converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted 
> all the
> files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
> to a
> co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.
> 
> Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this 
chapter!
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Pearl Rosenberg
> TeleHealth Services
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Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Has anyone else tried opening it for you on another machine?

Thanks,
Don.

Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch$

- Original Message -
From: "Ridder, Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:57 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note 
> that 
> these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do 
> a Save, FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of 
> the file with a second extension (.backup) rather than marking it 
> as an unused file that the OS can reallocate. In other words, the 
> "backup" file is always one save behind the real working file,
> and the magnitude of the difference depends on how frequently
> you remember to do manual saves. 
> 
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:framers-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
> *.backup.fm? 
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:framers-
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> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> FM 7.0p578
> Windows XP Professional
> 512 MB RAM
> 
> I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
> tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 
> 2.7 MB,
> and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've 
> triedclosing everything and rebooting and then opening only that 
> file, but I
> get the same message.
> 
> There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
> problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
> work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 
> 
> I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
> converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted 
> all the
> files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
> to a
> co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.
> 
> Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this 
chapter!
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Pearl Rosenberg
> TeleHealth Services
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Best Approach to Structure

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Dominick,

This is a tough one. Quickly is so relative, and structured documents 
can be a little daunting.

I would start with some training or a book or both. Actually, that's 
what I did.

I have found Kay Ethier's "XML and FrameMaker" very helpful. I have also 
taken her Stuctured Frame Boot Camp. The boot camp is probably the best 
way to implement your 'quickly' goal. Bring a project with you and she 
will use it to help you understand the process.

By the way, I've taken training in strucutred from Lynne Price 
(http://www.txstruct.com/) and Kay (http://www.travelthepath.com/) and 
found them to be excellent trainers! (I've been in the training biz for 
14 years so I know a good trainer when I see one!)

Thanks,
Don.

Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch
Donald.M.Rinderknecht at noaa.gov ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov



DeFlorio, Dominick wrote:

> What is the best approach to learning how to structure Frame 
> documents?  I need to learn quickly how to create and implement EDDs 
> into many and varied, unstructured Frame documents.  Suggestions...links?

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Re: Best Approach to Structure

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Dominick,

This is a tough one. Quickly is so relative, and structured documents
can be a little daunting. 

I would start with some training or a book or both. Actually, that's
what I did.

I have found Kay Ethier's "XML and FrameMaker" very helpful. I have
also taken her Stuctured Frame Boot Camp. The boot camp is probably the
best way to implement your 'quickly' goal. Bring a project with you and
she will use it to help you understand the process.

By the way, I've taken training in strucutred from Lynne Price
(http://www.txstruct.com/) and Kay (http://www.travelthepath.com/) and
found them to be excellent trainers! (I've been in the training biz for
14 years so I know a good trainer when I see one!)

Thanks,
Don.
Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov


DeFlorio, Dominick wrote:

  
  
  What
is the best approach to learning how to structure Frame documents?  I
need to learn quickly how to create and implement EDDs into many and
varied, unstructured Frame documents.  Suggestions...links?



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