RE: Graphics Fundamentals

[Diane Gaskill]

Hi Jeremy,

We are converting some word docs to FM.  The graphics files are embedded in
word and we have no idea what the original tool was to create the graphics.
When we import the word doc into FM, the MS2007 filter in FM does a good
job.  It creates frames and places the same embedded graphics in the frames.
Does FM know at this point what the original graphics file format is and
will Mif2Go extract the graphics to the original file format?  Or am I
wishing for too much.

Thanks lots,
Diane
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Graphics Fundamentals


On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:15:24 -0500, Jack DeLand jdela...@comcast.net
wrote:

They may be .eps, but they are copied and pasted into the files, not
linked, so I can't open them, or at least don't know how to. There is no
graphics subdirectory or other file location. Ideas?

You can always get embedded graphics out of Frame and into
files of their *original* type with Mif2Go; the free demo
version will do that for you:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

Detailed instructions are in the User's Guide, par. 29.2.3,
Exporting and converting embedded graphics.  The graphics
will not have their original names, because Frame discarded
those on import.  (Word does better; it keeps them. ;-)
But they *will* be in the original format, most likely EPS
in your case, and the process is very fast and automatic;
you can do a full book at once.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.com  http://www.omsys.com/
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RE: Graphics Fundamentals

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Hi Diane,

If the Word docs are in the new docx format, then you can extract the
graphics right out of them. The docx format is basically a zipped xml
file. If you rename the file with the extension .zip, you can use
Windows to extract the component files for you. I read about this one in
some tech writing blog, but I can't remember which one to give you the
link to this tip (sorry).
  
Jeff Coatsworth
Documentation Specialist
Gary Jonas Computing Ltd.
905-886-0544
905-886-8511 (fax)
jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com
 

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To: Jeremy H. Griffith; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Graphics Fundamentals

Hi Jeremy,

We are converting some word docs to FM.  The graphics files are embedded
in word and we have no idea what the original tool was to create the
graphics.
When we import the word doc into FM, the MS2007 filter in FM does a good
job.  It creates frames and places the same embedded graphics in the
frames.
Does FM know at this point what the original graphics file format is and
will Mif2Go extract the graphics to the original file format?  Or am I
wishing for too much.

Thanks lots,
Diane
===


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Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:08 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Graphics Fundamentals


On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:15:24 -0500, Jack DeLand jdela...@comcast.net
wrote:

They may be .eps, but they are copied and pasted into the files, not 
linked, so I can't open them, or at least don't know how to. There is 
no graphics subdirectory or other file location. Ideas?

You can always get embedded graphics out of Frame and into files of
their *original* type with Mif2Go; the free demo version will do that
for you:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

Detailed instructions are in the User's Guide, par. 29.2.3, Exporting
and converting embedded graphics.  The graphics will not have their
original names, because Frame discarded those on import.  (Word does
better; it keeps them. ;-) But they *will* be in the original format,
most likely EPS in your case, and the process is very fast and
automatic; you can do a full book at once.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.com  http://www.omsys.com/
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Re: Graphics Fundamentals

[quills]

The graphics embedded in a Word file are raster graphics (bitmapped) so 
when you export those graphics through Mif2Go you will get either jpg or 
gif, depending on which format you select. There is no way to tell what 
the original format was.

Scott

Diane Gaskill wrote:
 Hi Jeremy,

 We are converting some word docs to FM.  The graphics files are embedded in
 word and we have no idea what the original tool was to create the graphics.
 When we import the word doc into FM, the MS2007 filter in FM does a good
 job.  It creates frames and places the same embedded graphics in the frames.
 Does FM know at this point what the original graphics file format is and
 will Mif2Go extract the graphics to the original file format?  Or am I
 wishing for too much.

 Thanks lots,
 Diane
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Re: Graphics Fundamentals

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:08:15 -0700, Diane Gaskill dgcal...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

We are converting some word docs to FM.  The graphics files are embedded in
word and we have no idea what the original tool was to create the graphics.
When we import the word doc into FM, the MS2007 filter in FM does a good
job.  It creates frames and places the same embedded graphics in the frames.
Does FM know at this point what the original graphics file format is and
will Mif2Go extract the graphics to the original file format?  Or am I
wishing for too much.

No, that should work.  Internally, Word uses WMF, a vector
format, to hold graphics.  So you may be getting the Word
graphics as WMF.  Or as something else; that's up to the
import filter.  Possibly even the original format imported
into Word, since, unlike Frame, Word does retain the name
of the imported file.

In any case, what you will get from the Mif2Go export is
whatever is there in Frame.  Internally, Frame stores the
embedded images as graphic insets.  While they don't have
the original file name, they do retain the original data,
just in Frame's own (lossless) encoding.  So we can get
it out and save it in its originally-imported (into Frame) 
format, with a new name.

Just try it and see what happens.  You don't have to know
the format in advance, just tell Mif2Go to export everything,
including OLE objects, and see what you get.  ;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.com  http://www.omsys.com/
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Graphics Fundamentals

[Diane Gaskill]

Hi Jeremy,

We are converting some word docs to FM.  The graphics files are embedded in
word and we have no idea what the original tool was to create the graphics.
When we import the word doc into FM, the MS2007 filter in FM does a good
job.  It creates frames and places the same embedded graphics in the frames.
Does FM know at this point what the original graphics file format is and
will Mif2Go extract the graphics to the original file format?  Or am I
wishing for too much.

Thanks lots,
Diane
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Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:08 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Graphics Fundamentals


On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:15:24 -0500, Jack DeLand 
wrote:

>They may be .eps, but they are copied and pasted into the files, not
>linked, so I can't open them, or at least don't know how to. There is no
>graphics subdirectory or other file location. Ideas?

You can always get embedded graphics out of Frame and into
files of their *original* type with Mif2Go; the free demo
version will do that for you:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

Detailed instructions are in the User's Guide, par. 29.2.3,
"Exporting and converting embedded graphics".  The graphics
will not have their original names, because Frame discarded
those on import.  (Word does better; it keeps them. ;-)
But they *will* be in the original format, most likely EPS
in your case, and the process is very fast and automatic;
you can do a full book at once.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/
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Graphics Fundamentals

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Hi Diane,

If the Word docs are in the new docx format, then you can extract the
graphics right out of them. The docx format is basically a zipped xml
file. If you rename the file with the extension .zip, you can use
Windows to extract the component files for you. I read about this one in
some tech writing blog, but I can't remember which one to give you the
link to this tip (sorry).

Jeff Coatsworth
Documentation Specialist
Gary Jonas Computing Ltd.
905-886-0544
905-886-8511 (fax)
jeff.coatsworth at jonassoftware.com


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Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:08 PM
To: Jeremy H. Griffith; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Graphics Fundamentals

Hi Jeremy,

We are converting some word docs to FM.  The graphics files are embedded
in word and we have no idea what the original tool was to create the
graphics.
When we import the word doc into FM, the MS2007 filter in FM does a good
job.  It creates frames and places the same embedded graphics in the
frames.
Does FM know at this point what the original graphics file format is and
will Mif2Go extract the graphics to the original file format?  Or am I
wishing for too much.

Thanks lots,
Diane
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Subject: Re: Graphics Fundamentals


On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:15:24 -0500, Jack DeLand 
wrote:

>They may be .eps, but they are copied and pasted into the files, not 
>linked, so I can't open them, or at least don't know how to. There is 
>no graphics subdirectory or other file location. Ideas?

You can always get embedded graphics out of Frame and into files of
their *original* type with Mif2Go; the free demo version will do that
for you:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

Detailed instructions are in the User's Guide, par. 29.2.3, "Exporting
and converting embedded graphics".  The graphics will not have their
original names, because Frame discarded those on import.  (Word does
better; it keeps them. ;-) But they *will* be in the original format,
most likely EPS in your case, and the process is very fast and
automatic; you can do a full book at once.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/
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Graphics Fundamentals

[qui...@airmail.net]

The graphics embedded in a Word file are raster graphics (bitmapped) so 
when you export those graphics through Mif2Go you will get either jpg or 
gif, depending on which format you select. There is no way to tell what 
the original format was.

Scott

Diane Gaskill wrote:
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> We are converting some word docs to FM.  The graphics files are embedded in
> word and we have no idea what the original tool was to create the graphics.
> When we import the word doc into FM, the MS2007 filter in FM does a good
> job.  It creates frames and places the same embedded graphics in the frames.
> Does FM know at this point what the original graphics file format is and
> will Mif2Go extract the graphics to the original file format?  Or am I
> wishing for too much.
>
> Thanks lots,
> Diane
> ===
>   
>

Graphics Fundamentals

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:08:15 -0700, "Diane Gaskill"  
wrote:

>We are converting some word docs to FM.  The graphics files are embedded in
>word and we have no idea what the original tool was to create the graphics.
>When we import the word doc into FM, the MS2007 filter in FM does a good
>job.  It creates frames and places the same embedded graphics in the frames.
>Does FM know at this point what the original graphics file format is and
>will Mif2Go extract the graphics to the original file format?  Or am I
>wishing for too much.

No, that should work.  Internally, Word uses WMF, a vector
format, to hold graphics.  So you may be getting the Word
graphics as WMF.  Or as something else; that's up to the
import filter.  Possibly even the original format imported
into Word, since, unlike Frame, Word does retain the name
of the imported file.

In any case, what you will get from the Mif2Go export is
whatever is there in Frame.  Internally, Frame stores the
embedded images as graphic insets.  While they don't have
the original file name, they do retain the original data,
just in Frame's own (lossless) encoding.  So we can get
it out and save it in its originally-imported (into Frame) 
format, with a new name.

Just try it and see what happens.  You don't have to know
the format in advance, just tell Mif2Go to export everything,
including OLE objects, and see what you get.  ;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Graphics Fundamentals

[Sean Pollock]

That sounds like the way to go!> From: jeremy at omsys.com> To: framers at 
lists.frameusers.com> CC: spolloc1 at hotmail.com; jdeland1 at comcast.net> 
Subject: Re: Graphics Fundamentals> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:07:57 -0800> > On 
Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:15:24 -0500, Jack DeLand  > 
wrote:> > >They may be .eps, but they are copied and pasted into the files, not 
> >linked, so I can't open them, or at least don't know how to. There is no > 
>graphics subdirectory or other file location. Ideas?> > You can always get 
embedded graphics out of Frame and into> files of their *original* type with 
Mif2Go; the free demo> version will do that for you:> 
http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm> > Detailed instructions are in the 
User's Guide, par. 29.2.3, > "Exporting and converting embedded graphics". The 
graphics> will not have their original names, because Frame discarded> those on 
import. (Word does better; it keeps them. ;-)> But they *will* be in the 
original format, most likely EPS> in your case, and the process is very fast 
and automatic;> you can do a full book at once.> > HTH!> > -- Jeremy H. 
Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.>  http://www.omsys.com/
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Re: Graphics Fundamentals

[Jack DeLand]

Hello, Sean -
They may be .eps, but they are copied and pasted into the files, not 
linked, so I can't open them, or at least don't know how to. There is no 
graphics subdirectory or other file location. Ideas?
Jack
Sean Pollock wrote:
 I'm guessing they are .eps graphics,  
 http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/

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RE: Graphics Fundamentals

[Sean Pollock]

Merry Christmas, sorry for the delay.
 
Yours is not a good situation, but there is a solution if you have Photoshop--I 
am using CS2. I have not tried this on other apps.
 

Print a page containing a graphic to PDF.
Drag and drop that page to Photoshop. 
When prompted to import the pdf at 72 ppi and 8 bit depth, choose a higher 
resolution (say at least 190 ppi)
Choose 16 bit and click OK.
The entire screen will convert, with white areas transparent. At that point you 
can crop the page text out and you will be left with a decent quality graphic 
(not as good as eps, since this is a bitmap, but good depending on the 
resolution you choose). I recommend that you save each graphic in a 
Frame-friendly format (png comes to mind), place your images in externalized 
directories, and link to them. 
 
--Sean Pollock Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:15:24 -0500 From: 
jdela...@comcast.net To: spoll...@hotmail.com CC: 
framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Graphics Fundamentals  Hello, Sean 
- They may be .eps, but they are copied and pasted into the files, not  
linked, so I can't open them, or at least don't know how to. There is no  
graphics subdirectory or other file location. Ideas? Jack Sean Pollock 
wrote:  I'm guessing they are .eps graphics,   
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Re: Graphics Fundamentals

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:15:24 -0500, Jack DeLand jdela...@comcast.net 
wrote:

They may be .eps, but they are copied and pasted into the files, not 
linked, so I can't open them, or at least don't know how to. There is no 
graphics subdirectory or other file location. Ideas?

You can always get embedded graphics out of Frame and into
files of their *original* type with Mif2Go; the free demo
version will do that for you:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

Detailed instructions are in the User's Guide, par. 29.2.3, 
Exporting and converting embedded graphics.  The graphics
will not have their original names, because Frame discarded
those on import.  (Word does better; it keeps them. ;-)
But they *will* be in the original format, most likely EPS
in your case, and the process is very fast and automatic;
you can do a full book at once.

HTH!

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  jer...@omsys.com  http://www.omsys.com/
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RE: Graphics Fundamentals

[Sean Pollock]

That sounds like the way to go! From: jer...@omsys.com To: 
framers@lists.frameusers.com CC: spoll...@hotmail.com; jdela...@comcast.net 
Subject: Re: Graphics Fundamentals Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:07:57 -0800  On 
Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:15:24 -0500, Jack DeLand jdela...@comcast.net  wrote:  
They may be .eps, but they are copied and pasted into the files, not  
linked, so I can't open them, or at least don't know how to. There is no  
graphics subdirectory or other file location. Ideas?  You can always get 
embedded graphics out of Frame and into files of their *original* type with 
Mif2Go; the free demo version will do that for you: 
http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm  Detailed instructions are in the 
User's Guide, par. 29.2.3,  Exporting and converting embedded graphics. The 
graphics will not have their original names, because Frame discarded those on 
import. (Word does better; it keeps them. ;-) But they *will* be in the 
original format, most likely EPS in your case, and the process is very fast 
and automatic; you can do a full book at once.  HTH!  -- Jeremy H. 
Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/
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Graphics Fundamentals

[Sean Pollock]

Merry Christmas, sorry for the delay.

Yours is not a good situation, but there is a solution if you have Photoshop--I 
am using CS2. I have not tried this on other apps.


Print a page containing a graphic to PDF.
Drag and drop that page to Photoshop. 
When prompted to import the pdf at 72 ppi and 8 bit depth, choose a higher 
resolution (say at least 190 ppi)
Choose 16 bit and click OK.
The entire screen will convert, with white areas transparent. At that point you 
can crop the page text out and you will be left with a decent quality graphic 
(not as good as eps, since this is a bitmap, but good depending on the 
resolution you choose). I recommend that you save each graphic in a 
Frame-friendly format (png comes to mind), place your images in externalized 
directories, and link to them. 

--Sean Pollock> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:15:24 -0500> From: jdeland1 at 
comcast.net> To: spolloc1 at hotmail.com> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com> 
Subject: Re: Graphics Fundamentals> > Hello, Sean -> They may be .eps, but they 
are copied and pasted into the files, not > linked, so I can't open them, or at 
least don't know how to. There is no > graphics subdirectory or other file 
location. Ideas?> Jack> Sean Pollock wrote:> > I'm guessing they are .eps 
graphics, > > <http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/>> > -- > Jack 
DeLand :: Member, Information Architecture Institute :: Michigan :: +1 248 252 
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Graphics Fundamentals

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:15:24 -0500, Jack DeLand  
wrote:

>They may be .eps, but they are copied and pasted into the files, not 
>linked, so I can't open them, or at least don't know how to. There is no 
>graphics subdirectory or other file location. Ideas?

You can always get embedded graphics out of Frame and into
files of their *original* type with Mif2Go; the free demo
version will do that for you:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

Detailed instructions are in the User's Guide, par. 29.2.3, 
"Exporting and converting embedded graphics".  The graphics
will not have their original names, because Frame discarded
those on import.  (Word does better; it keeps them. ;-)
But they *will* be in the original format, most likely EPS
in your case, and the process is very fast and automatic;
you can do a full book at once.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Graphics Fundamentals

[Jack DeLand]

I inherited some old files, and the graphics look awful - squished and 
squiggly - except when I print to a printer, or generate a PDF. Then 
they look fine, nice and crisp, even if (intentionally) shrunken.  The 
writer who did this is long gone, and of course the process was never 
documented, so I don't know how he did it. 

I have tried shrinking in Snag-It, and reducing the percent of size on 
import. Both options yield a fuzzy look that I'm getting complaints 
about.  Is there some sort of FM option or technique that I can use to 
get the same results as he did?

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RE: Graphics Fundamentals

[Sean Pollock]

I'm guessing they are .eps graphics, and you want to output them for the web or 
some other non-PDF format (since they don't look bad otherwise)? If they are 
.eps, and you don't like that format, you can open the files in Photoshop or 
Paintshop and the app will give you the option of selecting an output size (you 
can also batch process them if there are many images). Of course, you will have 
to change the links in Frame as well.
 
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Siemens PLM Software Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:49:03 -0500 From: 
jdela...@comcast.net To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Graphics 
Fundamentals  I inherited some old files, and the graphics look awful - 
squished and  squiggly - except when I print to a printer, or generate a PDF. 
Then  they look fine, nice and crisp, even if (intentionally) shrunken. The  
writer who did this is long gone, and of course the process was never  
documented, so I don't know how he did it.   I have tried shrinking in 
Snag-It, and reducing the percent of size on  import. Both options yield a 
fuzzy look that I'm getting complaints  about. Is there some sort of FM 
option or technique that I can use to  get the same results as he did?  --  
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Re: Graphics Fundamentals

[Art Campbell]

What format are the old graphics?
How you fix or recreate depends on what you're trying to match...

* The graphics probably look ragged on-screen in Frame because you're
looking at a low resolution preview of the real file... which is used
when you print.

Art

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On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Jack DeLand jdela...@comcast.net wrote:
 I inherited some old files, and the graphics look awful - squished and
 squiggly - except when I print to a printer, or generate a PDF. Then
 they look fine, nice and crisp, even if (intentionally) shrunken.  The
 writer who did this is long gone, and of course the process was never
 documented, so I don't know how he did it.

 I have tried shrinking in Snag-It, and reducing the percent of size on
 import. Both options yield a fuzzy look that I'm getting complaints
 about.  Is there some sort of FM option or technique that I can use to
 get the same results as he did?

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 248 252 2200 :: GMT -5

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Graphics Fundamentals

[Jack DeLand]

I inherited some old files, and the graphics look awful - squished and 
squiggly - except when I print to a printer, or generate a PDF. Then 
they look fine, nice and crisp, even if (intentionally) shrunken.  The 
writer who did this is long gone, and of course the process was never 
documented, so I don't know how he did it. 

I have tried "shrinking" in Snag-It, and reducing the percent of size on 
import. Both options yield a "fuzzy" look that I'm getting complaints 
about.  Is there some sort of FM option or technique that I can use to 
get the same results as he did?

-- 
Jack DeLand :: Member, Information Architecture Institute :: Michigan :: +1 248 
252 2200 :: GMT -5

Graphics Fundamentals

[Sean Pollock]

I'm guessing they are .eps graphics, and you want to output them for the web or 
some other non-PDF format (since they don't look bad otherwise)? If they are 
.eps, and you don't like that format, you can open the files in Photoshop or 
Paintshop and the app will give you the option of selecting an output size (you 
can also batch process them if there are many images). Of course, you will have 
to change the links in Frame as well.

--Sean Pollock 
Siemens PLM Software> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:49:03 -0500> From: jdeland1 at 
comcast.net> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Graphics 
Fundamentals> > I inherited some old files, and the graphics look awful - 
squished and > squiggly - except when I print to a printer, or generate a PDF. 
Then > they look fine, nice and crisp, even if (intentionally) shrunken. The > 
writer who did this is long gone, and of course the process was never > 
documented, so I don't know how he did it. > > I have tried "shrinking" in 
Snag-It, and reducing the percent of size on > import. Both options yield a 
"fuzzy" look that I'm getting complaints > about. Is there some sort of FM 
option or technique that I can use to > get the same results as he did?> > -- > 
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Graphics Fundamentals

[Art Campbell]

What format are the old graphics?
How you fix or recreate depends on what you're trying to match...

* The graphics probably look ragged on-screen in Frame because you're
looking at a low resolution preview of the real file... which is used
when you print.

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Jack DeLand  wrote:
> I inherited some old files, and the graphics look awful - squished and
> squiggly - except when I print to a printer, or generate a PDF. Then
> they look fine, nice and crisp, even if (intentionally) shrunken.  The
> writer who did this is long gone, and of course the process was never
> documented, so I don't know how he did it.
>
> I have tried "shrinking" in Snag-It, and reducing the percent of size on
> import. Both options yield a "fuzzy" look that I'm getting complaints
> about.  Is there some sort of FM option or technique that I can use to
> get the same results as he did?
>
> --
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> 248 252 2200 :: GMT -5
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Graphics Fundamentals

[Jack DeLand]

Hello, Sean -
They may be .eps, but they are copied and pasted into the files, not 
linked, so I can't open them, or at least don't know how to. There is no 
graphics subdirectory or other file location. Ideas?
Jack
Sean Pollock wrote:
> I'm guessing they are .eps graphics,  
> 

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252 2200 :: GMT -5