Re: FM, paste special text option

2007-04-23 Thread Shmuel Wolfson

Check the setting in your maker.ini:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

Try putting FILE before TEXT.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



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Subject:Re: paste special ...text option
Date:   Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:01:58 -0400
From:   Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pete,

There is a setting in your maker.ini to do this.

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



 Hello framers,

 Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on the 
 paste-special option box.  text is currently third in the list and I 
 would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).


 Any help appreciated.

 Cheers,

 Pete
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RE: FM, paste special text option

2007-04-23 Thread Ridder, Fred
Note that the maker.ini change does *not* do what you actually
asked about. The change does not change the order of items
in the list in the Paste Special dialog. What it does change 
is the default behavior of the *regular* paste command (Ctrl+V
or EditPaste). If you change the maker.ini priorities, it changes
the decision tree that FrameMaker uses whenever you do a 
paste that uses the Windows clipboard--pasting content from
another application into FrameMaker or between two separate 
instances of FrameMaker. If you usually need to paste as plain 
text, making the change in maker.ini is that you can accomplish
this with the standard Paste command rather than having to
use Paste Special with its extra keystrokes or extra mouse 
clicks.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Subject: Re: FM, paste special text option

Check the setting in your maker.ini:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF,
RTF

Try putting FILE before TEXT.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



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 Subject:  Re: paste special ...text option
 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:01:58 -0400
 From: Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   Peter Rule [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@lists.frameusers.com
 References:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Pete,

 There is a setting in your maker.ini to do this.

 ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP,
MIF, RTF

 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing
 585-659-8267
 www.frameexpert.com



  Hello framers,
 
  Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on
the 
  paste-special option box.  text is currently third in the list
and I 
  would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).
 
  Any help appreciated.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Pete
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FM, paste special text option

2007-04-23 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Check the setting in your maker.ini:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

Try putting FILE before TEXT.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



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>  Original Message 
> Subject:  Re: paste special ...text option
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:01:58 -0400
> From: Rick Quatro 
> To:   Peter Rule , 
> References:   
>
>
> Pete,
>
> There is a setting in your maker.ini to do this.
>
> ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com
>
>
>
> > Hello framers,
> >
> > Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on the 
> > "paste-special" option box.  "text" is currently third in the list and I 
> > would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Pete
> > ___
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FM, paste special text option

2007-04-23 Thread Ridder, Fred
Note that the maker.ini change does *not* do what you actually
asked about. The change does not change the order of items
in the list in the Paste Special dialog. What it does change 
is the default behavior of the *regular* paste command (Ctrl+V
or Edit>Paste). If you change the maker.ini priorities, it changes
the decision tree that FrameMaker uses whenever you do a 
paste that uses the Windows clipboard--pasting content from
another application into FrameMaker or between two separate 
instances of FrameMaker. If you usually need to paste as plain 
text, making the change in maker.ini is that you can accomplish
this with the standard Paste command rather than having to
use Paste Special with its extra keystrokes or extra mouse 
clicks.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:54 AM
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Framers
Subject: Re: FM, paste special text option

Check the setting in your maker.ini:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF,
RTF

Try putting FILE before TEXT.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject:      Re: paste special ...text option
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:01:58 -0400
> From: Rick Quatro 
> To:   Peter Rule , 
> References:   
>
>
> Pete,
>
> There is a setting in your maker.ini to do this.
>
> ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP,
MIF, RTF
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com
>
>
>
> > Hello framers,
> >
> > Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on
the 
> > "paste-special" option box.  "text" is currently third in the list
and I 
> > would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Pete
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paste special ...text option

2006-10-18 Thread Shmuel Wolfson

   PureText is free and works in all applications.
   [1]http://www.stevemiller.net/puretext/
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133

   Combs, Richard wrote:

Steve Cavanaugh wrote:



There is an easier approach.  HOVtext is a public domain
system utility that automatically strips formatting from
items you have copied to the clipboard. So when you paste, it
has already been reduced to simple text.  I've been using it
here for a while now, and I can finally copy and paste from
the keyboard without having to go through Paste Special.
Check it out: [2]http://hovklan.com/hovtext/


HovText looks useful, Steve, thanks for the link. But does it acually
work for copying and pasting strictly within FM (which uses its own
internal clipboard, not the Windows clipboard)?

Or is it strictly for Windows clipboard operations, such as pasting
something from another application into FM (which the maker.ini setting
controls)?

Thanks!
Richard


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paste special ...text option

2006-10-12 Thread Peter Rule
Brilliant.

Thanks to all for their suggestions.  I am now extra-click free.

The winner is HOVtext.  Its like someone designed an application just for me! 
And so easy to use; it just works straight away. I am forever wanting to 
"paste-special ...text" in all kinds of contexts and forever getting frustrated 
by the extra clicks etc.

I will use this tool alot.

-Pete




-Original message-
From: "Steve Cavanaugh" scavana...@nat-seattle.com
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:01:15 +1000
To: "Combs, Richard" richard.combs at Polycom.com
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

> It seems to work on both clipboards from tests I just performed here.
> Once installed, you get a system tray icon that is green in the center.
> Green means strip the formatting.  If you click the icon once, the green
> turns to red, which means the HOVtext tool is disabled and the clipboard
> works as normal.  Click again and it's back to green.  That makes it
> easy to go back and forth from normal behavior to clean text behavior.
> I love it! 
> 
> 
> Steve Cavanaugh
> Sr. Technical Writer
> NAT Seattle Inc.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.combs at Polycom.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:41 AM
> To: Steve Cavanaugh; Peter Rule; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: paste special ...text option
> 
> Steve Cavanaugh wrote: 
>  
> > There is an easier approach.  HOVtext is a public domain system 
> > utility that automatically strips formatting from items you have 
> > copied to the clipboard. So when you paste, it has already been 
> > reduced to simple text.  I've been using it here for a while now, and 
> > I can finally copy and paste from the keyboard without having to go 
> > through Paste Special.
> > Check it out: http://hovklan.com/hovtext/
> 
> HovText looks useful, Steve, thanks for the link. But does it acually
> work for copying and pasting strictly within FM (which uses its own
> internal clipboard, not the Windows clipboard)? 
> 
> Or is it strictly for Windows clipboard operations, such as pasting
> something from another application into FM (which the maker.ini setting
> controls)? 
> 
> Thanks!
> Richard
> 
> 
> --
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> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-777-0436
> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




Re: Fw: RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-11 Thread Stuart Rogers

Peter Rule wrote:


You are correct, I am cut/copy and pasting within a Frame doc and
the, otherwise useful suggestion to edit the maker.ini file has no
effect on the paste special order in this context.

Thanks anyway, looks like I'll just have to suffer that extra click.



You don't have to suffer an extra click. In fact, you don't have to 
suffer *any* clicks after positioning your cursor, if you forgo the 
mouse and use keyboard shortcuts. You'll also increase your productivity 
enormously over time.


For the case in point, (on Windoze) type Alt-e, s, t, Enter, and your 
copied material is pasted as text in less time than it would take just 
to open the Edit menu by mousing. The sequence is easy to remember, too 
-- (e)dit, (s)pecial, (t)ext.


HTH,

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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
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RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-11 Thread Combs, Richard
Steve Cavanaugh wrote: 
 
 There is an easier approach.  HOVtext is a public domain 
 system utility that automatically strips formatting from 
 items you have copied to the clipboard. So when you paste, it 
 has already been reduced to simple text.  I've been using it 
 here for a while now, and I can finally copy and paste from 
 the keyboard without having to go through Paste Special.
 Check it out: http://hovklan.com/hovtext/  

HovText looks useful, Steve, thanks for the link. But does it acually
work for copying and pasting strictly within FM (which uses its own
internal clipboard, not the Windows clipboard)? 

Or is it strictly for Windows clipboard operations, such as pasting
something from another application into FM (which the maker.ini setting
controls)? 

Thanks!
Richard


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RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-11 Thread Steve Cavanaugh
It seems to work on both clipboards from tests I just performed here.
Once installed, you get a system tray icon that is green in the center.
Green means strip the formatting.  If you click the icon once, the green
turns to red, which means the HOVtext tool is disabled and the clipboard
works as normal.  Click again and it's back to green.  That makes it
easy to go back and forth from normal behavior to clean text behavior.
I love it! 


Steve Cavanaugh
Sr. Technical Writer
NAT Seattle Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:41 AM
To: Steve Cavanaugh; Peter Rule; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

Steve Cavanaugh wrote: 
 
 There is an easier approach.  HOVtext is a public domain system 
 utility that automatically strips formatting from items you have 
 copied to the clipboard. So when you paste, it has already been 
 reduced to simple text.  I've been using it here for a while now, and 
 I can finally copy and paste from the keyboard without having to go 
 through Paste Special.
 Check it out: http://hovklan.com/hovtext/

HovText looks useful, Steve, thanks for the link. But does it acually
work for copying and pasting strictly within FM (which uses its own
internal clipboard, not the Windows clipboard)? 

Or is it strictly for Windows clipboard operations, such as pasting
something from another application into FM (which the maker.ini setting
controls)? 

Thanks!
Richard


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RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-11 Thread Peter Rule
Brilliant.

Thanks to all for their suggestions.  I am now extra-click free.

The winner is HOVtext.  Its like someone designed an application just for me! 
And so easy to use; it just works straight away. I am forever wanting to 
paste-special ...text in all kinds of contexts and forever getting frustrated 
by the extra clicks etc.

I will use this tool alot.

-Pete




-Original message-
From: Steve Cavanaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:01:15 +1000
To: Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

 It seems to work on both clipboards from tests I just performed here.
 Once installed, you get a system tray icon that is green in the center.
 Green means strip the formatting.  If you click the icon once, the green
 turns to red, which means the HOVtext tool is disabled and the clipboard
 works as normal.  Click again and it's back to green.  That makes it
 easy to go back and forth from normal behavior to clean text behavior.
 I love it! 
 
 
 Steve Cavanaugh
 Sr. Technical Writer
 NAT Seattle Inc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:41 AM
 To: Steve Cavanaugh; Peter Rule; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: paste special ...text option
 
 Steve Cavanaugh wrote: 
  
  There is an easier approach.  HOVtext is a public domain system 
  utility that automatically strips formatting from items you have 
  copied to the clipboard. So when you paste, it has already been 
  reduced to simple text.  I've been using it here for a while now, and 
  I can finally copy and paste from the keyboard without having to go 
  through Paste Special.
  Check it out: http://hovklan.com/hovtext/
 
 HovText looks useful, Steve, thanks for the link. But does it acually
 work for copying and pasting strictly within FM (which uses its own
 internal clipboard, not the Windows clipboard)? 
 
 Or is it strictly for Windows clipboard operations, such as pasting
 something from another application into FM (which the maker.ini setting
 controls)? 
 
 Thanks!
 Richard
 
 
 --
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 Senior Technical Writer
 Polycom, Inc.
 richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
 303-223-5111
 --
 rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
 303-777-0436
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Fw: RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-11 Thread Peter Rule

-Original message-
From: "Peter Rule" li...@indite.com.au
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:40:06 +1000
To: "Fred Ridder" docudoc at hotmail.com
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

Yes, thankyou Fred (and everyone else).  

You are correct, I am cut/copy and pasting within a Frame doc and the, 
otherwise useful suggestion to edit the maker.ini file has no effect on the 
paste special order in this context.

Thanks anyway, looks like I'll just have to suffer that extra click.

Cheers,

Pete


-Original message-
From: "Fred Ridder" docu...@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:40:04 +1000
To: kethier at travelthepath.com
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

> Sorry, Kay, but this useful trick (which was also suggested by Mark Southee,
> Rick Quatro, and Winifred Reng) is not going to do what Peter needs.
> 
> Peter complains that Text is the *third* option in his Paste Special dialog,
> and that fact indicates that he is cutting (or copying) and pasting
> content from *within*FrameMaker*. If he were pasting content from
> an external application (e.g. MS Word) via the Windows clipboard,
> the Text option would be the more like the fifth or sixth item in the list.
> 
> The problem is that the ClipboardFormatsPriorities item in maker.ini only
> affects pasting from the Windows clipboard.  It does *not* affect the
> paste operation for content that is coming from a FrameMaker file.
> The only way to paste FrameMaker content as unformatted text is to
> use Paste Special.  And that's why Peter wants to change the order
> of items in that dialog's list.  Unfortunately, I don't believe that there
> is any way to alter that list, particularly since it is a context-sensitive 
> list.
> The ClipboardFormatsPriorities parameter does not affect the order of
> items in the Paste Special dialog's list; it only affects the behavior of
> the standard paste command (e.g. Ctrl+P) so that you don't have
> to use Paste Special as often.
> 
> It's also important to remember that maker.ini does not exist in the Mac
> version of FrameMaker, so that this ClipboardFormatsPriorities trick is
> useless on that platform.
> 
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
> 
> >From: "Sales at Bright Path" 
> >Reply-To: kethier at travelthepath.com
> >To: "'Peter Rule'" ,
> >Subject: RE: paste special ...text option
> >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:08:41 -0400
> >
> >Hi Pete:
> >
> >This may be adjusted in the "maker.ini" file within your FrameMaker install
> >folder.  The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool
> >like Notepad and edit it.
> >
> >By moving TEXT to the start of the line:
> >
> >ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT
> >
> >you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste
> >as text and you don't have to do Paste Special.
> >
> >Good luck,
> >
> >Kay
> >
> >PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes.
> >
> >.K.
> >
> >
> >Kay Ethier
> >Senior Trainer & Consultant
> >Bright Path Solutions
> >FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Peter Rule
> >
> >Hello framers,
> >
> >Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on the
> >"paste-special" option box.  "text" is currently third in the list and I
> >would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).
> >
> >Any help appreciated.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Pete
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paste special ...text option

2006-10-11 Thread Steve Cavanaugh
There is an easier approach.  HOVtext is a public domain system utility
that automatically strips formatting from items you have copied to the
clipboard. So when you paste, it has already been reduced to simple
text.  I've been using it here for a while now, and I can finally copy
and paste from the keyboard without having to go through Paste Special.
Check it out: http://hovklan.com/hovtext/  


Steve Cavanaugh
Sr. Technical Writer
NAT Seattle Inc.

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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: paste special ...text option

Hello framers,

Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on the
"paste-special" option box.  "text" is currently third in the list and I
would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

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Fw: RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-11 Thread Stuart Rogers
Peter Rule wrote:

> You are correct, I am cut/copy and pasting within a Frame doc and
> the, otherwise useful suggestion to edit the maker.ini file has no
> effect on the paste special order in this context.
> 
> Thanks anyway, looks like I'll just have to suffer that extra click.
> 

You don't have to suffer an extra click. In fact, you don't have to 
suffer *any* clicks after positioning your cursor, if you forgo the 
mouse and use keyboard shortcuts. You'll also increase your productivity 
enormously over time.

For the case in point, (on Windoze) type Alt-e, s, t, Enter, and your 
copied material is pasted as text in less time than it would take just 
to open the Edit menu by mousing. The sequence is easy to remember, too 
-- (e)dit, (s)pecial, (t)ext.

HTH,

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paste special ...text option

2006-10-11 Thread Combs, Richard
Steve Cavanaugh wrote: 

> There is an easier approach.  HOVtext is a public domain 
> system utility that automatically strips formatting from 
> items you have copied to the clipboard. So when you paste, it 
> has already been reduced to simple text.  I've been using it 
> here for a while now, and I can finally copy and paste from 
> the keyboard without having to go through Paste Special.
> Check it out: http://hovklan.com/hovtext/  

HovText looks useful, Steve, thanks for the link. But does it acually
work for copying and pasting strictly within FM (which uses its own
internal clipboard, not the Windows clipboard)? 

Or is it strictly for Windows clipboard operations, such as pasting
something from another application into FM (which the maker.ini setting
controls)? 

Thanks!
Richard


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paste special ...text option

2006-10-11 Thread Steve Cavanaugh
It seems to work on both clipboards from tests I just performed here.
Once installed, you get a system tray icon that is green in the center.
Green means strip the formatting.  If you click the icon once, the green
turns to red, which means the HOVtext tool is disabled and the clipboard
works as normal.  Click again and it's back to green.  That makes it
easy to go back and forth from normal behavior to clean text behavior.
I love it! 


Steve Cavanaugh
Sr. Technical Writer
NAT Seattle Inc.

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From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:41 AM
To: Steve Cavanaugh; Peter Rule; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

Steve Cavanaugh wrote: 

> There is an easier approach.  HOVtext is a public domain system 
> utility that automatically strips formatting from items you have 
> copied to the clipboard. So when you paste, it has already been 
> reduced to simple text.  I've been using it here for a while now, and 
> I can finally copy and paste from the keyboard without having to go 
> through Paste Special.
> Check it out: http://hovklan.com/hovtext/

HovText looks useful, Steve, thanks for the link. But does it acually
work for copying and pasting strictly within FM (which uses its own
internal clipboard, not the Windows clipboard)? 

Or is it strictly for Windows clipboard operations, such as pasting
something from another application into FM (which the maker.ini setting
controls)? 

Thanks!
Richard


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paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Peter Rule
Hello framers,

Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on the 
paste-special option box.  text is currently third in the list and I would 
love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Pete
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Re: paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Rick Quatro

Pete,

There is a setting in your maker.ini to do this.

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com




Hello framers,

Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on the 
paste-special option box.  text is currently third in the list and I 
would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).


Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Pete
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RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Sales at Bright Path
Hi Pete:

This may be adjusted in the maker.ini file within your FrameMaker install
folder.  The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool
like Notepad and edit it. 

By moving TEXT to the start of the line:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste
as text and you don't have to do Paste Special.

Good luck,

Kay

PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes.

.K.


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Senior Trainer  Consultant
Bright Path Solutions
FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/




-Original Message-
From: Peter Rule

Hello framers,

Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on the
paste-special option box.  text is currently third in the list and I
would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Pete
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RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Reng, Winfried Dr.
Hi Peter,

Easy. Open your maker.ini file with a text editor and change
the order of the ClipboardFormatsPriorities formats.

Best regards

Winfried

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 Subject: paste special ...text option
 
 
 Hello framers,
 
 Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first 
 option on the paste-special option box.  text is 
 currently third in the list and I would love for it to be 
 first (saving me having to select it).
 
 Any help appreciated.
 
 Cheers,
 
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RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Fred Ridder

Sorry, Kay, but this useful trick (which was also suggested by Mark Southee,
Rick Quatro, and Winifred Reng) is not going to do what Peter needs.

Peter complains that Text is the *third* option in his Paste Special dialog,
and that fact indicates that he is cutting (or copying) and pasting
content from *within*FrameMaker*. If he were pasting content from
an external application (e.g. MS Word) via the Windows clipboard,
the Text option would be the more like the fifth or sixth item in the list.

The problem is that the ClipboardFormatsPriorities item in maker.ini only
affects pasting from the Windows clipboard.  It does *not* affect the
paste operation for content that is coming from a FrameMaker file.
The only way to paste FrameMaker content as unformatted text is to
use Paste Special.  And that's why Peter wants to change the order
of items in that dialog's list.  Unfortunately, I don't believe that there
is any way to alter that list, particularly since it is a context-sensitive 
list.

The ClipboardFormatsPriorities parameter does not affect the order of
items in the Paste Special dialog's list; it only affects the behavior of
the standard paste command (e.g. Ctrl+P) so that you don't have
to use Paste Special as often.

It's also important to remember that maker.ini does not exist in the Mac
version of FrameMaker, so that this ClipboardFormatsPriorities trick is
useless on that platform.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


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To: 'Peter Rule' [EMAIL PROTECTED],framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:08:41 -0400

Hi Pete:

This may be adjusted in the maker.ini file within your FrameMaker install
folder.  The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool
like Notepad and edit it.

By moving TEXT to the start of the line:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste
as text and you don't have to do Paste Special.

Good luck,

Kay

PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes.

.K.


Kay Ethier
Senior Trainer  Consultant
Bright Path Solutions
FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/




-Original Message-
From: Peter Rule

Hello framers,

Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on the
paste-special option box.  text is currently third in the list and I
would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Pete
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Fw: RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Peter Rule

-Original message-
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:40:06 +1000
To: Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

Yes, thankyou Fred (and everyone else).  

You are correct, I am cut/copy and pasting within a Frame doc and the, 
otherwise useful suggestion to edit the maker.ini file has no effect on the 
paste special order in this context.

Thanks anyway, looks like I'll just have to suffer that extra click.

Cheers,

Pete


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From: Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:40:04 +1000
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

 Sorry, Kay, but this useful trick (which was also suggested by Mark Southee,
 Rick Quatro, and Winifred Reng) is not going to do what Peter needs.
 
 Peter complains that Text is the *third* option in his Paste Special dialog,
 and that fact indicates that he is cutting (or copying) and pasting
 content from *within*FrameMaker*. If he were pasting content from
 an external application (e.g. MS Word) via the Windows clipboard,
 the Text option would be the more like the fifth or sixth item in the list.
 
 The problem is that the ClipboardFormatsPriorities item in maker.ini only
 affects pasting from the Windows clipboard.  It does *not* affect the
 paste operation for content that is coming from a FrameMaker file.
 The only way to paste FrameMaker content as unformatted text is to
 use Paste Special.  And that's why Peter wants to change the order
 of items in that dialog's list.  Unfortunately, I don't believe that there
 is any way to alter that list, particularly since it is a context-sensitive 
 list.
 The ClipboardFormatsPriorities parameter does not affect the order of
 items in the Paste Special dialog's list; it only affects the behavior of
 the standard paste command (e.g. Ctrl+P) so that you don't have
 to use Paste Special as often.
 
 It's also important to remember that maker.ini does not exist in the Mac
 version of FrameMaker, so that this ClipboardFormatsPriorities trick is
 useless on that platform.
 
 My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
 Fred Ridder
 Intel
 Parsippany, NJ
 
 From: Sales at Bright Path [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Peter Rule' [EMAIL PROTECTED],framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: paste special ...text option
 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:08:41 -0400
 
 Hi Pete:
 
 This may be adjusted in the maker.ini file within your FrameMaker install
 folder.  The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool
 like Notepad and edit it.
 
 By moving TEXT to the start of the line:
 
 ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT
 
 you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste
 as text and you don't have to do Paste Special.
 
 Good luck,
 
 Kay
 
 PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes.
 
 .K.
 
 
 Kay Ethier
 Senior Trainer  Consultant
 Bright Path Solutions
 FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/
 
 
 
 
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 Hello framers,
 
 Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on the
 paste-special option box.  text is currently third in the list and I
 would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).
 
 Any help appreciated.
 
 Cheers,
 
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paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Peter Rule
Hello framers,

Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on the 
"paste-special" option box.  "text" is currently third in the list and I would 
love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Pete



paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Rick Quatro
Pete,

There is a setting in your maker.ini to do this.

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



> Hello framers,
>
> Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on the 
> "paste-special" option box.  "text" is currently third in the list and I 
> would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
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paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Mark Southee
Peter,

Open your maker.ini file in a text editor (from the Program
Files\Framemaker directory) and locate the following line:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=

Move TEXT to the beginning of the list.

Cheers

Mark 

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m] On Behalf Of Peter Rule
Sent: 10 October 2006 03:11
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: paste special ...text option

Hello framers,

Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on the
"paste-special" option box.  "text" is currently third in the list and I
would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Pete
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paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Sales@Bright Path
Hi Pete:

This may be adjusted in the "maker.ini" file within your FrameMaker install
folder.  The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool
like Notepad and edit it. 

By moving TEXT to the start of the line:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste
as text and you don't have to do Paste Special.

Good luck,

Kay

PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes.

.K.


Kay Ethier
Senior Trainer & Consultant
Bright Path Solutions
FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/




-Original Message-
From: Peter Rule

Hello framers,

Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on the
"paste-special" option box.  "text" is currently third in the list and I
would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Pete
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paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Reng, Winfried Dr.
Hi Peter,

Easy. Open your maker.ini file with a text editor and change
the order of the "ClipboardFormatsPriorities" formats.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> ]On Behalf
> Of Peter Rule
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:11 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: paste special ...text option
> 
> 
> Hello framers,
> 
> Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first 
> option on the "paste-special" option box.  "text" is 
> currently third in the list and I would love for it to be 
> first (saving me having to select it).
> 
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Pete



paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Fred Ridder
Sorry, Kay, but this useful trick (which was also suggested by Mark Southee,
Rick Quatro, and Winifred Reng) is not going to do what Peter needs.

Peter complains that Text is the *third* option in his Paste Special dialog,
and that fact indicates that he is cutting (or copying) and pasting
content from *within*FrameMaker*. If he were pasting content from
an external application (e.g. MS Word) via the Windows clipboard,
the Text option would be the more like the fifth or sixth item in the list.

The problem is that the ClipboardFormatsPriorities item in maker.ini only
affects pasting from the Windows clipboard.  It does *not* affect the
paste operation for content that is coming from a FrameMaker file.
The only way to paste FrameMaker content as unformatted text is to
use Paste Special.  And that's why Peter wants to change the order
of items in that dialog's list.  Unfortunately, I don't believe that there
is any way to alter that list, particularly since it is a context-sensitive 
list.
The ClipboardFormatsPriorities parameter does not affect the order of
items in the Paste Special dialog's list; it only affects the behavior of
the standard paste command (e.g. Ctrl+P) so that you don't have
to use Paste Special as often.

It's also important to remember that maker.ini does not exist in the Mac
version of FrameMaker, so that this ClipboardFormatsPriorities trick is
useless on that platform.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

>From: "Sales at Bright Path" 
>Reply-To: kethier at travelthepath.com
>To: "'Peter Rule'" ,
>Subject: RE: paste special ...text option
>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:08:41 -0400
>
>Hi Pete:
>
>This may be adjusted in the "maker.ini" file within your FrameMaker install
>folder.  The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool
>like Notepad and edit it.
>
>By moving TEXT to the start of the line:
>
>ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT
>
>you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste
>as text and you don't have to do Paste Special.
>
>Good luck,
>
>Kay
>
>PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes.
>
>.K.
>
>
>Kay Ethier
>Senior Trainer & Consultant
>Bright Path Solutions
>FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Peter Rule
>
>Hello framers,
>
>Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on the
>"paste-special" option box.  "text" is currently third in the list and I
>would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).
>
>Any help appreciated.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Pete
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