Circa 1981 Charles Corfield pitched his idea for an
"industrial-strength WYSIWYG word processor" to Sun, which lent him a
workstation.
https://www.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/products/framemaker/whitepapers/25_Years_of_Adobe_Framemaker.pdf
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 10:00 AM Peter Gold wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Stefan wanted to know why so many of us Adobe
> users "feel" the way we do about Adobe
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> Matt has published Working with Content 2020, which is for the most recent
> version of Frame. It's based on the Scriptorium Using FrameMaker 8, and
it's
Matt has published Working with Content 2020, which is for the most recent
version of Frame. It's based on the Scriptorium Using FrameMaker 8, and
it's pretty helpful. I do recommend it if you're sick of the online help.
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 6:33 PM wrote:
> I will say among the many things
I used Broadvision Quicksilver for quite a while until 2015’ish. Basically a
Windows-based version of Interleaf. It was very useful, and working with their
tech team was terrific. What changes they’ve made these past six years or so
should be significant. Interleaf was definitely the Gold
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> IMO, Adobe treats us as open wallets from which to extract more and mo
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Stefan wanted to know why so many of us Adobe users
"feel" the way we do about Adobe
Well, I had Frame 7 for ages and ages, and used to see all the stories on
forums, so never moved till we got Windows 10 and
They must, or it wouldn't still be being updated and sold.
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 4:03 PM Steve Rickaby
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> >Interleaf still exists, but it's called Quicksilver these days.
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> So I've heard - but does anyone use it?
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> Steve
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At 13:24 -0400 14/10/21, Lin Sims wrote:
>Interleaf still exists, but it's called Quicksilver these days.
So I've heard - but does anyone use it?
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On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 12:24 PM Steve Rickaby
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> I tend to agree: all software eventually 'dies' as technology moves
A good reason NOT to speed-read technically-dense material, is that one
tends to take humor seriously. For example, I'm imagining recalling retired
engineers refactoring original FM code into COBOL! :)
Thanks for the image, Steve!
IIRC, the original proposals for FM were made by
At 16:55 -0600 12/10/21, wrote:
>I can give details if interested, but I just wanted to chime in to the
>thread from a few weeks ago, where someone stated that they feel that Adobe
>hates their customers. . .
I think that was me.
Long time past, I took a great many textbooks directly to press
On 13 Oct 2021 at 14:21, Peter Gold wrote:
> In the old days, Adobe had beta-test (AKA pre-release) programs, for which
> interested volunteers who represent a range of users from single-person
> business to large enterprises with multiple seats, could apply. Is there a
> FM beta-test program
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Because every single solitary time that I have to uninstall/reinstall an Adobe
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I wholeheartedly agree — except, sadly, I'm not semi-retired.
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Subject: [Framers] Stefan wanted to know why so many of us A
Because every single solitary time that I have to uninstall/reinstall an
Adobe app., I hold my breath to see what kind of friggin' rabbit hole Adobe
takes me down and yep, it pulled a doozy on me this week, and thanks to
Adobe, I lost a good 2 hours' worth of work to get my system back up to
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