RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-24 Thread Craig, Alison
I use 6 different plug-ins from Silicon Prairie and would definitely recommend 
them.

There’s also Table Cleaner from Rick Quatro (http://www.frameexpert.com). It’s 
come in very handy a few times.

And all of these plug-ins are extremely affordable.

Alison


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I've heard good things about Silicon Prairie Software, although I have not used 
it: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/


Nadine


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Hi John,

As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is basically
Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
learn.

I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker. If
you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts that
I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com<mailto:r...@frameexpert.com>

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Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that
be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-24 Thread john . x . posada
Hi, David. I watched their video. They seem to stress linguistics and
usability, and measuring that stuff.

While those are secondary factors on my end, my priority is style, format,
content control consistency, and authoring speed. It's hard to explain, but
my stuff isn't to convince...my stuff is to show AML methodology and
compliance for use during AML model review.

I have one main output; PDF, with secondary output Word. Multiple delivery
isn't a requirement here.

Thanks anyway.

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| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
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I would give serious thought to Acrolinx, if you're facing consistency
issue as your content scales up and if you're going to bring in multiple
writers. It can also help other casual content authors (e.g., developer's
and tester's design and use case docs; marcomm) or give you a fast-editing
path to clean up such source prior to importation/reuse in FrameMaker. It's
NOT cheap, and it take a significant setup and routine maintenance as your
product lines evolve... but it's a joy to see working well! It basically
can eliminate any 'copyediting' roles throughout your organization.

And, no, I am not affiliatedf with them, other than as a fanboy who wants
MY compnay to adopt it! :)
David
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 Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
 document set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

 Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
 stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
 bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
 possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
 pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.


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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-24 Thread David Artman
I would give serious thought to Acrolinx, if you're facing consistency issue as your content scales up and if you're going to bring in multiple writers. It can also help other casual content authors (e.g., developer's and tester's design and use case docs; marcomm) or give you a fast-editing path to clean up such source prior to importation/reuse in FrameMaker. It's NOT cheap, and it take a significant setup and routine maintenance as your product lines evolve... but it's a joy to see working well! It basically can eliminate any 'copyediting' roles throughout your organization.
 
And, no, I am not affiliatedf with them, other than as a fanboy who wants MY compnay to adopt it! :)
David

---- Original Message --------Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?From: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.comDate: Thu, April 23, 2015 1:35 pmTo: framers <framers@lists.frameusers.com>Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a largedocument set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take astab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may bebringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean aspossible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.
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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-24 Thread Robert Lauriston
I was really impressed by Finalyser but didn't have the budget for it.
I'm not sure if they're still localizing for English.

http://www.squidds.de/finalyser/

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM,   wrote:
>
> Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
> document set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.
>
> Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
> stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
> bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
> possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
> pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.
>
> Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
> battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.
>
> Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
> check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
> work through the process from "request to license".
>
> So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
> plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should
> that be?
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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-24 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi John,

I use two plugins/FrameScript packages very often:

i-frame
i-frame is a collection of scripts for FrameScript. The modules
encompass scripts for everything! I like these scripts best:
Scale Graphics - for me invaluable!
FM2MIF2FM - Convert to/from MIF
There are many more to get reports and to maintain formats.
I can only recommend to have a look at the web-site.
http://www.i-frame.itl.info/en/feature-description.html

Import formats special
This plugin adds some more options to the Import Formats dialog.
Specifically: User variables
This is a plugin which I need very often.
It's from Rick Quatro, but I couldn't find it on his homepage.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:01 PM
> To: John Sgammato
> Cc: framers
> Subject: Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?
>
> Thanks, John, but this is a one-shot deal.
>
> First, I'd never get a scripting product in here. The applications have to
> have specific functions they can test before installing.
>
> Second, if I was to use someone like Rick, it would be a 4 month process
> for each one I tried to get.
>
> I cannot install anything. It has to be done by the right department.
>
> John X Posada
> AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
> | HSBC North America Holdings Inc
> 330 Madison Ave., NY NY
>
>
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>
>
>
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> From: John Sgammato 
> To:   John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02
> Cc:   framers 
> Date: 04/23/2015 01:56 PM
> Subject:  Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?
>
>
>
> I'd look into FrameScript. There are many useful free scripts available,
> and you can write your own or contract someone to write them for you.  I
> highly recommend Rick Quatro, whose wizardry has dramatically expanded
> what
> I can do with unstructured FrameMaker 12.
>
> Two examples of easy, effective cleanup:
> * ArchiveFM.fso does pretty much what the late Bruce Foster's Archive
> plugin did - it takes all the files, images, and text insets in a book,
> even those referenced from distant folders, and puts them in a ZIP archive.
> In seconds you can blow away all those extra images that aren't used in a
> book.
> * TidyImport.fso enable you to clean up a doc with too many extra para and
> character tags by doing a CleanImport from a known good clean template or
> chapter. Not just those, but Para, Char, Table, Variable, x-ref,
> conditions, color defs, math defs, doc properties, object styles, reference
> pages and page layouts.
>
> FrameScript is $179 for a single license. See https://framescript.com/
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:35 PM,  wrote:
>
>   Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
>   document set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.
>
>   Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take
>   a
>   stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
>   bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
>   possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
>   pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.
>
>   Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
>   battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.
>
>   Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just
>   to
>   check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months
>   to
>   work through the process from "request to license".
>
>   So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as
>   many
>   plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should
>   that be?
>
>   Thanks
>
>   John X Posada
>   AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control &
>   Analytics
>   | HSBC North America Holdings Inc
>   330 Madison Ave., NY NY
>
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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Lin Sims
Unfortunately for us, Electropubs, and its EzTools, has disappeared.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:12 PM, David Spreadbury 
wrote:

> Not to disparage Framescript or Rick but File > Package does what Bruce
> Fosters Archive did and EZTools > Clean Import can clean up a document, or
> all chapters in a book very nicely/
>
>
>
>   On Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:59 PM, Rick Quatro 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
> built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
> without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is
> basically
> Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
> don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
> because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
> you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
> things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
> takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
> learn.
>
> I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker.
> If
> you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
> you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
> Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts
> that
> I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or
> comments.
> Thank you very much.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-366-4017
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
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> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:36 PM
> To: framers
> Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?
>
>
> Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
> document
> set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.
>
> Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
> stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
> bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
> possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
> pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.
>
> Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
> battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.
>
> Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
> check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
> work through the process from "request to license".
>
> So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
> plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should
> that
> be?
>
> Thanks
>
> John X Posada
> AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
> | HSBC North America Holdings Inc
> 330 Madison Ave., NY NY
>
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
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>   Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: Personal Cellphone - 732-259-2874
> Fax
>   Conference Bridge - 877-304-0052, Code 74809254
> Email
>   john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
>
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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Ditto.

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com

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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:33 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

Two words about their products: bees knees

Alan

On 24/04/15 7:07 am, Writer wrote:
> I've heard good things about Silicon Prairie Software, although I have 
> not used it: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
>
> Nadine
>
> --
> --
> *From:* Rick Quatro 
> *To:* john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com; 'framers' 
> 
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:08 PM
> *Subject:* RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?
>
> Hi John,
>
> As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has 
> ExtendScript built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity 
> to FrameMaker without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. 
> ExtendScript is basically Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of 
> FrameMaker's object model. If you don't want to write them yourself, 
> you can purchase them from others. And because scripts are compiled at 
> runtime, you usually get the source code so you can reuse parts and 
> pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make things a longer 
> term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process takes time 
> anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you learn.
>
> I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in 
> FrameMaker. If you have a particular task in mind and attend the 
> webinar, I will make sure you get the script at no cost, or in 
> exchange for a small donation to the Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. 
> I welcome some good ideas for scripts that I can demonstrate. Please let
me know if you have any questions or comments.
> Thank you very much.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-366-4017
> r...@frameexpert.com <mailto:r...@frameexpert.com>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:36 PM
> To: framers
> Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?
>
>
> Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large 
> document
> set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.
>
> Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to 
> take a stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I 
> may be bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as 
> clean as possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an 
> initial 195 pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.
>
> Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a 
> battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.
>
> Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application 
> just to check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 
> 4 months to work through the process from "request to license".
>
> So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as 
> many plugin components in as few different products as possible, what 
> should that be?
>
> Thanks
>
> John X Posada
> AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & 
> Analytics
> | HSBC North America Holdings Inc
> 330 Madison Ave., NY NY
>
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
> Phone
>Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: Personal Cellphone - 732-259-2874 Fax
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> john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com <mailto:john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com>
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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Combs, Richard (CW)
Ditto!

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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:12 PM
To: 'framers'
Subject: RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

Yes, they make good stuff. I recommend their products.

From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:08 PM
To: Rick Quatro; john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com<mailto:john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com>; 
'framers'
Subject: Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

I've heard good things about Silicon Prairie Software, although I have not used 
it: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/

Nadine


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Subject: RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

Hi John,

As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is basically
Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
learn.

I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker. If
you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts that
I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
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To: framers
Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that
be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Alan Litchfield

Two words about their products: bees knees

Alan

On 24/04/15 7:07 am, Writer wrote:

I've heard good things about Silicon Prairie Software, although I have
not used it: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/

Nadine


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*To:* john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com; 'framers' 
*Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:08 PM
*Subject:* RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

Hi John,

As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is basically
Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
learn.

I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker. If
you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts that
I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com <mailto:r...@frameexpert.com>

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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:36 PM
To: framers
Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that
be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Rick Quatro
Here is the link to the webinar I mentioned earlier. It is not too late to
submit scripting ideas for it.

April 29: "FrameMaker Automation Ideas with Examples"

Special Guest Rick Quatro returns for a 3rd session on Extendscripts for
FrameMaker. In this session, Rick will share several of his favorite
time-saving solutions. Scripts will be available to those who register or
attend.
REGISTRATION: http://adobe.ly/1JoxBsR 

Rick Quatro
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585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:36 PM
To: framers
Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that
be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY


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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Art,

 

I don't think the compiling of the scripts is an issue; it is getting 
FrameScript itself installed. IT may balk at him installing a third-party 
scripting plugin without a specific use-case. They may see the ability to 
script FrameMaker as a security threat. As I suggested before, I think he may 
already have the solution under his nose: ExtendScript should be installed with 
his FrameMaker 11 installation. Now he just needs some clandestine scripts to 
work with; nothing to install, but some simple ExtendScript scripts that he can 
run to help with his productivity. As far as IT goes, he is just using 
FrameMaker with the tools that it was installed with.

 

Rick

 

From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:39 PM
To: Rick Quatro
Cc: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com; framers
Subject: Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

 

Rick, is there any way possible to create a compiled version of any 
Framescripts, so as to tippy-tow through John's IT minefield?




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redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.

 

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Rick Quatro  wrote:

Hi John,

As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is basically
Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
learn.

I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker. If
you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts that
I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:36 PM
To: framers
Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that
be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Art Campbell
Rick, is there any way possible to create a compiled version of any
Framescripts, so as to tippy-tow through John's IT minefield?

Art Campbell
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Rick Quatro  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
> built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
> without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is
> basically
> Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
> don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
> because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
> you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
> things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
> takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
> learn.
>
> I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker.
> If
> you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
> you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
> Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts
> that
> I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or
> comments.
> Thank you very much.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-366-4017
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:36 PM
> To: framers
> Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?
>
>
> Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
> document
> set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.
>
> Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
> stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
> bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
> possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
> pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.
>
> Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
> battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.
>
> Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
> check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
> work through the process from "request to license".
>
> So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
> plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should
> that
> be?
>
> Thanks
>
> John X Posada
> AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
> | HSBC North America Holdings Inc
> 330 Madison Ave., NY NY
>
>  ___
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>
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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread David Spreadbury
Not to disparage Framescript or Rick but File > Package does what Bruce Fosters 
Archive did and EZTools > Clean Import can clean up a document, or all chapters 
in a book very nicely/
 


 On Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:59 PM, Rick Quatro  
wrote:
   

 Hi John,

As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is basically
Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
learn.

I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker. If
you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts that
I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:36 PM
To: framers
Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that
be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY
                                                                
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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Rick Quatro
Yes, they make good stuff. I recommend their products.

 

From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:08 PM
To: Rick Quatro; john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com; 'framers'
Subject: Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

 

I've heard good things about Silicon Prairie Software, although I have not used 
it: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/





Nadine

 

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From: Rick Quatro 
To: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com; 'framers'  
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi John,

As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is basically
Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
learn.

I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker. If
you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts that
I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:36 PM
To: framers
Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that
be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Writer
I've heard good things about Silicon Prairie Software, although I have not used 
it: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
Nadine
  From: Rick Quatro 
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 Subject: RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?
   
Hi John,

As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is basically
Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
learn.

I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker. If
you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts that
I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
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Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that
be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY
                                                                
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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread john . x . posada
Thanks...I've used it, liked it, and it was already on my list.

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From:   "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)"

To: John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02, "framers"

Date:   04/23/2015 02:21 PM
Subject:        RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?



For me, BookVars from Leximation is vital.

I recommend it highly to maintain variables at the book level for
consistency - many of my books have hundreds of variables, and I would not
be able to cleanly manage variables without it.

Z

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Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
document set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should
that be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
For me, BookVars from Leximation is vital.

I recommend it highly to maintain variables at the book level for consistency - 
many of my books have hundreds of variables, and I would not be able to cleanly 
manage variables without it.

Z

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
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john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 10:36 AM
To: framers
Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document 
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a stab 
at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be bringing in a 
team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as possible. When you 
evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195 pages in 2 years, ya get 
careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a 
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to 
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to work 
through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many 
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY
 
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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi John,

As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is basically
Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
learn.

I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker. If
you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts that
I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Thank you very much.

Rick

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585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com

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Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that
be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY
 
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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread john . x . posada
Thanks, John, but this is a one-shot deal.

First, I'd never get a scripting product in here. The applications have to
have specific functions they can test before installing.

Second, if I was to use someone like Rick, it would be a 4 month process
for each one I tried to get.

I cannot install anything. It has to be done by the right department.

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From:   John Sgammato 
To: John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02
Cc: framers 
Date:   04/23/2015 01:56 PM
Subject:    Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?



I'd look into FrameScript. There are many useful free scripts available,
and you can write your own or contract someone to write them for you.  I
highly recommend Rick Quatro, whose wizardry has dramatically expanded what
I can do with unstructured FrameMaker 12.

Two examples of easy, effective cleanup:
* ArchiveFM.fso does pretty much what the late Bruce Foster's Archive
plugin did - it takes all the files, images, and text insets in a book,
even those referenced from distant folders, and puts them in a ZIP archive.
In seconds you can blow away all those extra images that aren't used in a
book.
* TidyImport.fso enable you to clean up a doc with too many extra para and
character tags by doing a CleanImport from a known good clean template or
chapter. Not just those, but Para, Char, Table, Variable, x-ref,
conditions, color defs, math defs, doc properties, object styles, reference
pages and page layouts.

FrameScript is $179 for a single license. See https://framescript.com/

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:35 PM,  wrote:

  Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
  document set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

  Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take
  a
  stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
  bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
  possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
  pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

  Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
  battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

  Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just
  to
  check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months
  to
  work through the process from "request to license".

  So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as
  many
  plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should
  that be?

  Thanks

  John X Posada
  AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control &
  Analytics
  | HSBC North America Holdings Inc
  330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread John Sgammato
I'd look into FrameScript. There are many useful free scripts available,
and you can write your own or contract someone to write them for you.  I
highly recommend Rick Quatro, whose wizardry has dramatically expanded what
I can do with unstructured FrameMaker 12.

Two examples of easy, effective cleanup:
* ArchiveFM.fso does pretty much what the late Bruce Foster's Archive
plugin did - it takes all the files, images, and text insets in a book,
even those referenced from distant folders, and puts them in a ZIP archive.
In seconds you can blow away all those extra images that aren't used in a
book.
* TidyImport.fso enable you to clean up a doc with too many extra para and
character tags by doing a CleanImport from a known good clean template or
chapter. Not just those, but Para, Char, Table, Variable, x-ref,
conditions, color defs, math defs, doc properties, object styles, reference
pages and page layouts.

FrameScript is $179 for a single license. See https://framescript.com/

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:35 PM,  wrote:

>
> Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
> document set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.
>
> Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
> stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
> bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
> possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
> pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.
>
> Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
> battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.
>
> Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
> check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
> work through the process from "request to license".
>
> So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
> plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should
> that be?
>
> Thanks
>
> John X Posada
> AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
> | HSBC North America Holdings Inc
> 330 Madison Ave., NY NY
>
>  ___
>
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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread john . x . posada
Maybe graphics resizing, repositioning, object and anchor settings...

Pretty much think of if you were a one-man shop maintaining 20,000 pages
and growing, what would you add that FM forgot?

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From:   Writer 
To: John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02, framers

Date:   04/23/2015 01:42 PM
Subject:    Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?



John, what are your major housekeeping pain points?

Nadine

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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:35 PM
Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
document set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should
that be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread john . x . posada
Table maintenance
Style maintenance
Mostly Import  from and some export to Word < > FM (not edits, but I'm a FM
user in a Word world and I received and send out to / from Word users.

stuff like that.

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To: John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02, framers

Date:   04/23/2015 01:42 PM
Subject:    Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?



John, what are your major housekeeping pain points?

Nadine

From: "john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com" 
To: framers 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:35 PM
Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?


Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
document set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should
that be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Writer
John, what are your major housekeeping pain points?
Nadine

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 Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?
   

Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
document set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should
that be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY
                                                                
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2015-04-23 Thread john . x . posada

Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
document set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from "request to license".

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should
that be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY
 
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