Gunnar Carlsson wrote:
> Another question: has FrameMaker something like ^& in Word, meaning
> "what you found". Extremely useful when adding text, for example
> "Search
> for*, change to [^&]" which means that all words starting with
> "for" will be in [ ].
No, Frame doesn't have this f
Susan Nishi wrote:
> I'm trying to set up auto counters in my document with the
> following H1,
> H2, and H3. Up until now, they've been manually coded. Chapter 1 uses
> the 1.1 series, Chapter 2 uses the 2.1 series so on.
>
>
>
> Is it possible to use one H1 or do I have to code the 2.1.,
> 3
To late!
It's already been sent to the world!
Peter
Original Message
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At 17:24 -0500 6/8/07, Peter Gold wrote:
>It is perhaps a little easier to size and position a text line inside
>an "inline" anchored frame, than a text frame. You can create the text
>with the text line tool (the "A" tool on the Graphics tool panel), and
>drag or paste it inside an anchored fram
At 17:11 -0700 6/8/07, Courtney Collins wrote:
>I haven't ever tried this, but what about creating a box on the reference page
>and using that instead of the lines that usually appear there? I'm home now,
>but I will try ot tomorrow at work if I get time.
Not sure if this would work. The purpos
Hi Framers
In off-group discussions with Angela and others, it's become only too clear
that it's possible to create clever stuff on master pages that is obvious to
its designer but to no-one else ;-) For example, the auto thumbtabs stuff which
came up recently on the group, or anything that inv
At 10:06 +0100 7/8/07, Steve Rickaby wrote:
>When massing with multiple frames on master pages, it's a lot easier to see
>what's going on if you give the various frames a temporary - and different -
>fill pattern and/or colored border. When you've finished dickering with them,
>you can use the
On 8/7/07, Steve Rickaby wrote:
> Peter is right. All you lose by this is the ability to apply para and char
> tags to the framed word. Your application will determine how important this
> is for you.
Text lines accept character tags, but not paragraph tags.
Regards,
Peter
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On 8/7/07, Steve Rickaby wrote:
> A way to ensure that the description travels around with the template is to
> add one or more extra reference pages called 'Notes' or somesuch, and put a
> brief potted description of how the template - or it's more foxy features -
> operates there. That way t
Hi Peter
At 06:27 -0500 7/8/07, Peter Gold wrote:
>On 8/7/07, Steve Rickaby wrote:
>
>> A way to ensure that the description travels around with the template is to
>> add one or more extra reference pages called 'Notes' or somesuch, and put a
>> brief potted description of how the template - or
At 06:04 -0500 7/8/07, Peter Gold wrote:
>Text lines accept character tags, but not paragraph tags.
I did not know that. Thanks ;-)
--
Steve
Steve Rickaby wrote:
> At 17:24 -0500 6/8/07, Peter Gold wrote:
>
>> It is perhaps a little easier to size and position a text line
>> inside an "inline" anchored frame, than a text frame. You can create
>> the text with the text line tool (the "A" tool on the Graphics tool
>> panel), and drag o
If I was going to put a border around a word, I would insert a text frame
at the appropriate place, insert a table with one row and one column, set
the appropriate width, set the margins to 2 pt or so, and set the
appropriate ruling style. Then I would insert the word or phrase.
Steve Cavanaugh wrote:
> Odd... I'm running Acrobat 5.5 and 8 on this system, as well as a
> competing product, and they all seem to work perfectly well together.
Yeah, I think the point was that even though some people will get
multiple versions to work, most people will run into problems, and
Bill Briggs wrote:
> At 12:19 PM -0600 8/3/07, Combs, Richard wrote:
>> What am I missing?
>
> Nothing?
>
>> Why do people not want those spaces?
For me, it's just a habit I learned in other programs in which a
trailing space actually does occupy some space. It never occurred to me
(and I ac
We're still at 7.1 and Acrobat Pro 6. All is relatively well.
FM 8 seems attractive -- one thing that would entice me would be if
multiple undo has truly attained stability in FM 8. (Yes, I know the
chorus, "Undo is for wimps!" but I've been spoiled by all those years in
Word, at least on that pa
"Unicode support" is one of the touted new features of FM8. I thought this
would finally allow me to choose some of those fancy characters outside the
ASCII range, in the fonts that contain them.
But I can't figure out how to type a Unicode character! In Word, you type
the hexadecimal character
D'oh! Nevermind! I just figured out that I can copy and paste Unicode
characters from Character Map.
Mike Wickham
An even slicker way to document customized master pages is to
put the explanatory text right in the master page because I think
few people would ever think to prowl through the reference pages
for this kind of information. The body text frame on the master
page is nothing more than a placeholder, a
FYI: They also finally import nicely from Word instead of just disappearing.
Why it took so long for this feature is another issue.
Randolph Handel
Technical Writer
Medical Manager Research & Development
Sage Software
15151 NW 99th Street ? Alachua, FL 32615
Office: 386.418.7137 ? Fax: 386.418.
> For users of unstructured Framemaker, what are your FM8 migration plans?
>
> Are there any compelling reasons to upgrade at this time?
I plan to upgrade*, but I'm still playing with the trial version of FM8. For
me, the coolest feature is the ability to insert Unicode characters. I can
now ta
I sent a recall because I sent multiple postings to the list, but it seems
only one finally came through after all. With that said, I am still
desperately looking for a solution for images in FrameMaker .mif files
importing correctly into RoboHelp.
Randolph Handel
Technical Writer
Medical Manag
Mike Wickham wrote:
> D'oh! Nevermind! I just figured out that I can copy and paste Unicode
> characters from Character Map.
Yeah, Character Map works. I don't have FM8 yet, but I would have
thought they would have included something like Indesign's Glyph
palette, or Word's Insert Symbol.
Win
At 08:41 -0500 7/8/07, Pinkham, Jim wrote:
>(Yes, I know the chorus, "Undo is for wimps!" but I've been spoiled by all
>those years in Word...
Yeah, Wurd tends to have that effect - but not in the sense you mean ;-)
--
Steve
LOL. Thanks, Steve :) I'll not restart the tool wars by rising to the
bait on that one.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:44 AM
To: Pinkham, Jim; objectives.ca; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE
Harro's solution works perfectly as long as your document
is set up with each chapter in one or more separate files.
(If you have chapters that are split across multiple files,
it's by far the best approach.)
But if you have more than one chapter in a file you cannot
use the $chapnum system variab
Thanks Dov. I'll bring this up at our next staff meeting.
One thing I forgot to mention. Even though our new docs are in FM
(finally!), we still have a lot of active docs in Word. It's the PDFs from
Word that are giving us the problems. We are using PDFMaker 7.0 from Word.
It's basically a Sav
At 09:55 -0500 7/8/07, Pinkham, Jim wrote:
>LOL. Thanks, Steve :) I'll not restart the tool wars by rising to the
>bait on that one.
Wise man, wise man ;-)
--
Steve
Did you fully uninstall the beta test copy FIRST before trying
to install the "trial" version? If not, you are probably hosed
until you get a license.
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Randall Larson-Maynard
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:03 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameu
"Compelling reasons" are subjective and depend on your workflow
and what FrameMaker features that workflow depends on.
Boolean logic for show/hide rules and improved display of overlapping
conditions may be very compelling features for some users, but
are insignificantif you don't use conditions.
Same problem with me, also reported to the Team. No resolution yet. :-(
Cost me two days of reworking into FM 7.2.
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
On 8/1/07, Randall Larson-Maynard wrote:
> I was a beta 8 tester.
>
> Beta 8 expired yesterday. I downloaded the trial 8 copy and installed. All
> went
> fine.
That does not violate the rules assuming that the "Acrobat 7.0
Distiller" installed on your system is what is installed by
FrameMaker, is not just part of a full Acrobat 7 install, and
you have no other full Acrobat versions installed!
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Trevor Nic
FYI -- For anyone upgrading to FM8 who want's to experiment with UNICODE and
quickly find some UNICODE test text (sans text entry), if you go to
Wikipedia.com and scroll down to the bottom of the screen (below the search
entry field for English), you will find several UNICODE languages listed, w
Thanks for the notion here, Dov.
I _think_ I did. Had to, really, because of rather narrow space on my
HDs. But I did not uninstall until after downloading and maybe also
unzipping the Trial version. There were no explanations in the Beta
testers site that I recall telling about the proper procedu
I've been running Frame 7.2 under Parallels on a MacBook Pro for
about 6 months. I've only encountered a few gotchas. You have to get
used to using "Mac" keys for "Windows" shortcuts (and you can avoid a
lot of that if you use the Esc shortcuts which work just about
anywhere). There's a kin
One more thing: I'm running UNSTRUCTURED Frame.
Pat
On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Pat Christenson wrote:
> I've been running Frame 7.2 under Parallels on a MacBook Pro for
> about 6 months. I've only encountered a few gotchas. You have to
> get used to using "Mac" keys for "Windows" shortcuts
PDFMaker as part of Acrobat 7 is not particularly problematic.
On the other hand, depending on the joboptions chosen, you certainly
can produce PDF files that can't be properly handled by older versions
of Acrobat and Reader.
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Diane Gaskill [mail
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:45:30 -0400 , Randy.Handel at sage.com wrote:
>I am still desperately looking for a solution for images
>in FrameMaker .mif files importing correctly into RoboHelp.
*If* you can't find one, you might want to consider using
Mif2Go instead of RH. You can definitely use your
Hi Gunnar,
I sent this to you yesterday and forgot to "cc" the list. Here is summary of
most common method for an inline anchored frame.
_
Maxwell Hoffmann
-Original Message-
From: Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:54 AM
To:
I run structured Frame 7.2 on a Macbook Pro through Parallels (with
Windows XP on the Boot Camp partition) on my "in-the-field" machine.
The configuration seems pretty solid. Working on the local hard drive,
FrameMaker performance is acceptable although quite a bit slower than
Frame 7.0 running
That might not be just a Parallels thingy. For the longest time I
have had to click twice in FM 7.x on XP in dropdown lists in
dialogs. Once to populate the dropdown, the second time to generate
a scroll bar. Am I alone? A minor aggro - but still.
will white
On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:59 AM
If anyone has one or more templates demonstrating the type of Master
pages/Reference pages discussed in the parent subject, if they're not
copyrighted, and if you're authorized and willing to disseminate them to the
group, would you please store a copy in the Framers' file archive? I would
love to
That depends on what I'm trying to do. But I suddenly realized why I
don't have problems, and it may be the reason others do: I don't have
any of the readers installed. I let Acrobat open to read. So it could
be that I would have major issues if I tried to install one of the
readers here.
Ste
Think I'll wait and see before upgrading. Tabs are cool, but Unicode seems
more of a localization benefit.
While I appreciate XML/DITA enhancements for structured users, I would not
be so generous as to pay for an "enhancement" like feature stability
(personally, I have no stability complaints). I
Mike
Yes, I tried that.
I finally got a tech guy. And basically he won't tell me what registry key to
delete. Heaven forbid he should help a customer under since I might post the
information on how to get past the reg key issue. Not!
Not my best Adobe experience in the last ten years of being a
Gunnar Carlsson wrote:
> Another question: has FrameMaker something like ^& in Word, meaning
> "what you found". Extremely useful when adding text, for example
> "Search
> for*, change to [^&]" which means that all words starting with
> "for" will be in [ ].
No, Frame doesn't have this f
Susan Nishi wrote:
> I'm trying to set up auto counters in my document with the
> following H1,
> H2, and H3. Up until now, they've been manually coded. Chapter 1 uses
> the 1.1 series, Chapter 2 uses the 2.1 series so on.
>
>
>
> Is it possible to use one H1 or do I have to code the 2.1.,
> 3
To late!
It's already been sent to the world!
Peter
Original Message
Handel, Randy would like to recall the message, "FM to RH Import Settings?".
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At 17:24 -0500 6/8/07, Peter Gold wrote:
>It is perhaps a little easier to size and position a text line inside
>an "inline" anchored frame, than a text frame. You can create the text
>with the text line tool (the "A" tool on the Graphics tool panel), and
>drag or paste it inside an anchored fram
At 17:11 -0700 6/8/07, Courtney Collins wrote:
>I haven't ever tried this, but what about creating a box on the reference page
>and using that instead of the lines that usually appear there? I'm home now,
>but I will try ot tomorrow at work if I get time.
Not sure if this would work. The purpos
Hi Framers
In off-group discussions with Angela and others, it's become only too clear
that it's possible to create clever stuff on master pages that is obvious to
its designer but to no-one else ;-) For example, the auto thumbtabs stuff which
came up recently on the group, or anything that inv
At 10:06 +0100 7/8/07, Steve Rickaby wrote:
>When massing with multiple frames on master pages, it's a lot easier to see
>what's going on if you give the various frames a temporary - and different -
>fill pattern and/or colored border. When you've finished dickering with them,
>you can use the
On 8/7/07, Steve Rickaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter is right. All you lose by this is the ability to apply para and char
> tags to the framed word. Your application will determine how important this
> is for you.
Text lines accept character tags, but not paragraph tags.
Regards,
Peter
On 8/7/07, Steve Rickaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A way to ensure that the description travels around with the template is to
> add one or more extra reference pages called 'Notes' or somesuch, and put a
> brief potted description of how the template - or it's more foxy features -
> operate
Hi Peter
At 06:27 -0500 7/8/07, Peter Gold wrote:
>On 8/7/07, Steve Rickaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> A way to ensure that the description travels around with the template is to
>> add one or more extra reference pages called 'Notes' or somesuch, and put a
>> brief potted description of ho
At 06:04 -0500 7/8/07, Peter Gold wrote:
>Text lines accept character tags, but not paragraph tags.
I did not know that. Thanks ;-)
--
Steve
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Steve Rickaby wrote:
> At 17:24 -0500 6/8/07, Peter Gold wrote:
>
>> It is perhaps a little easier to size and position a text line
>> inside an "inline" anchored frame, than a text frame. You can create
>> the text with the text line tool (the "A" tool on the Graphics tool
>> panel), and drag o
If I was going to put a border around a word, I would insert a text frame
at the appropriate place, insert a table with one row and one column, set
the appropriate width, set the margins to 2 pt or so, and set the
appropriate ruling style. Then I would insert the word or phrase.
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Steve Cavanaugh wrote:
Odd... I'm running Acrobat 5.5 and 8 on this system, as well as a
competing product, and they all seem to work perfectly well together.
Yeah, I think the point was that even though some people will get
multiple versions to work, most people will run into problems, and
Bill Briggs wrote:
At 12:19 PM -0600 8/3/07, Combs, Richard wrote:
What am I missing?
Nothing?
Why do people not want those spaces?
For me, it's just a habit I learned in other programs in which a
trailing space actually does occupy some space. It never occurred to me
(and I actually h
We're still at 7.1 and Acrobat Pro 6. All is relatively well.
FM 8 seems attractive -- one thing that would entice me would be if
multiple undo has truly attained stability in FM 8. (Yes, I know the
chorus, "Undo is for wimps!" but I've been spoiled by all those years in
Word, at least on that pa
"Unicode support" is one of the touted new features of FM8. I thought this
would finally allow me to choose some of those fancy characters outside the
ASCII range, in the fonts that contain them.
But I can't figure out how to type a Unicode character! In Word, you type
the hexadecimal characte
D'oh! Nevermind! I just figured out that I can copy and paste Unicode
characters from Character Map.
Mike Wickham
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An even slicker way to document customized master pages is to
put the explanatory text right in the master page because I think
few people would ever think to prowl through the reference pages
for this kind of information. The body text frame on the master
page is nothing more than a placeholder,
FYI: They also finally import nicely from Word instead of just disappearing.
Why it took so long for this feature is another issue.
Randolph Handel
Technical Writer
Medical Manager Research & Development
Sage Software
15151 NW 99th Street ● Alachua, FL 32615
Office: 386.418.7137 ● Fax: 386.418.
For users of unstructured Framemaker, what are your FM8 migration plans?
Are there any compelling reasons to upgrade at this time?
I plan to upgrade*, but I'm still playing with the trial version of FM8. For
me, the coolest feature is the ability to insert Unicode characters. I can
now take
I sent a recall because I sent multiple postings to the list, but it seems
only one finally came through after all. With that said, I am still
desperately looking for a solution for images in FrameMaker .mif files
importing correctly into RoboHelp.
Randolph Handel
Technical Writer
Medical Manag
Mike Wickham wrote:
D'oh! Nevermind! I just figured out that I can copy and paste Unicode
characters from Character Map.
Yeah, Character Map works. I don't have FM8 yet, but I would have
thought they would have included something like Indesign's Glyph
palette, or Word's Insert Symbol.
Wind
At 08:41 -0500 7/8/07, Pinkham, Jim wrote:
>(Yes, I know the chorus, "Undo is for wimps!" but I've been spoiled by all
>those years in Word...
Yeah, Wurd tends to have that effect - but not in the sense you mean ;-)
--
Steve
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LOL. Thanks, Steve :) I'll not restart the tool wars by rising to the
bait on that one.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:44 AM
To: Pinkham, Jim; objectives.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: For Unstructured
Harro's solution works perfectly as long as your document
is set up with each chapter in one or more separate files.
(If you have chapters that are split across multiple files,
it's by far the best approach.)
But if you have more than one chapter in a file you cannot
use the $chapnum system varia
Thanks Dov. I'll bring this up at our next staff meeting.
One thing I forgot to mention. Even though our new docs are in FM
(finally!), we still have a lot of active docs in Word. It's the PDFs from
Word that are giving us the problems. We are using PDFMaker 7.0 from Word.
It's basically a Sav
At 09:55 -0500 7/8/07, Pinkham, Jim wrote:
>LOL. Thanks, Steve :) I'll not restart the tool wars by rising to the
>bait on that one.
Wise man, wise man ;-)
--
Steve
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Did you fully uninstall the beta test copy FIRST before trying
to install the "trial" version? If not, you are probably hosed
until you get a license.
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Randall Larson-Maynard
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:03 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameuser
"Compelling reasons" are subjective and depend on your workflow
and what FrameMaker features that workflow depends on.
Boolean logic for show/hide rules and improved display of overlapping
conditions may be very compelling features for some users, but
are insignificantif you don't use conditions.
Same problem with me, also reported to the Team. No resolution yet. :-(
Cost me two days of reworking into FM 7.2.
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
On 8/1/07, Randall Larson-Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was a beta 8 tester.
>
> Beta 8 expired yesterday. I downloaded the trial 8 copy and installed. A
If this truly is the case, I do wish that Adobe Reader had not taken it upon
itself to offer me a "recommended upgrade" to Adobe Reader 8 when I already
had Framemaker 7.2 and Acrobat 7.0 Distiller installed on my system. You'd
think it would have shown a bit more prudence, wouldn't you?
I haven't
That does not violate the rules assuming that the "Acrobat 7.0
Distiller" installed on your system is what is installed by
FrameMaker, is not just part of a full Acrobat 7 install, and
you have no other full Acrobat versions installed!
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Trevor Nic
Oh. Panic over then.
Thanks
Cheers
T
-Original Message-
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2007 5:45 a.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Framers (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Multiple versions of Acrobat on same system?
That does not violate the rules assuming that th
FYI -- For anyone upgrading to FM8 who want's to experiment with UNICODE and
quickly find some UNICODE test text (sans text entry), if you go to
Wikipedia.com and scroll down to the bottom of the screen (below the search
entry field for English), you will find several UNICODE languages listed, w
Thanks for the notion here, Dov.
I _think_ I did. Had to, really, because of rather narrow space on my
HDs. But I did not uninstall until after downloading and maybe also
unzipping the Trial version. There were no explanations in the Beta
testers site that I recall telling about the proper procedu
I've been running Frame 7.2 under Parallels on a MacBook Pro for
about 6 months. I've only encountered a few gotchas. You have to get
used to using "Mac" keys for "Windows" shortcuts (and you can avoid a
lot of that if you use the Esc shortcuts which work just about
anywhere). There's a kin
One more thing: I'm running UNSTRUCTURED Frame.
Pat
On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Pat Christenson wrote:
I've been running Frame 7.2 under Parallels on a MacBook Pro for
about 6 months. I've only encountered a few gotchas. You have to
get used to using "Mac" keys for "Windows" shortcuts (and
PDFMaker as part of Acrobat 7 is not particularly problematic.
On the other hand, depending on the joboptions chosen, you certainly
can produce PDF files that can't be properly handled by older versions
of Acrobat and Reader.
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Diane Gaskill [mail
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:45:30 -0400 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I am still desperately looking for a solution for images
>in FrameMaker .mif files importing correctly into RoboHelp.
*If* you can't find one, you might want to consider using
Mif2Go instead of RH. You can definitely use your origina
Hi Gunnar,
I sent this to you yesterday and forgot to "cc" the list. Here is summary of
most common method for an inline anchored frame.
_
Maxwell Hoffmann
-Original Message-
From: Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:54 AM
To:
I run structured Frame 7.2 on a Macbook Pro through Parallels (with
Windows XP on the Boot Camp partition) on my "in-the-field" machine.
The configuration seems pretty solid. Working on the local hard drive,
FrameMaker performance is acceptable although quite a bit slower than
Frame 7.0 running
That might not be just a Parallels thingy. For the longest time I
have had to click twice in FM 7.x on XP in dropdown lists in
dialogs. Once to populate the dropdown, the second time to generate
a scroll bar. Am I alone? A minor aggro - but still.
will white
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