Re: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Helen Borrie
At 08:15 AM 2/03/2011, Alan Litchfield wrote: Yeah, I'm in that boat, and pricing in this part of the world is such that we get to pay significantly more than those stateside. Worse, that upgrade thing is a cheat. I was contentedly using FM6 which, when bought, had an upgrade path of two

Re: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
By Adobe changing their upgrade policy, to *not* allow upgrades for a few version back, they essentially have raised their price a lot for those who want to stay even somewhat current. You used to be able to upgrade every three versions without a problem. Now you have to upgrade *every*

Re: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:51 +0200 2/3/11, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: You really have to wonder whether we should be looking a for a cheaper solution. FrameMaker is a good program, but is it really worth the price? As a 'roundly ripped off Mac user' here, my balanced opinion is that by closing off historical upgrade

Re: [f2a] Linkg from Visio diagrams to FM files (final deliverable is a PDF)

2011-03-02 Thread Shlomo Perets
Tammy, You wrote: I want to modify some Visio diagrams and in this modification, include a link from different parts of the diagram to different locations in Framemaker files. The Visio diagrams will be in files that are in the same book as the files to which I want to link. The final

RE: [f2a] Linkg from Visio diagrams to FM files (final deliverable is a PDF)

2011-03-02 Thread Spectrum Writing
Thank you Shlomo very much. I think I understand your instructions. I will try to implement them today and if I have questions, I will ping the list again. Much appreciated, TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com

Re: Fonts not found

2011-03-02 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 01/03/2011 10:57 AM, Anthony Davey wrote: Hi All, Help please. Trialling Frame 10 in TCS3 on XP SP3. From Frame 10, using a template built in 8, I can display our corporate logo font in the Frame docs, but when I use Distiller to Save as PDF... the typeface changes to Times New Roman. The

RE: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Dov Isaacs
It is absolutely not going to ever happen! And what makes you really think that Apple gives a d*mn about FrameMaker? From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 1:13 AM To: Shmuel Wolfson;

Re: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
And what makes you really think that Apple gives a d*mn about FrameMaker? EXACTLY! Bodvar 2011/3/2 Dov Isaacs isa...@adobe.com It is absolutely *not *going to ever happen! And what makes you really think that Apple gives a d*mn about FrameMaker? *From:*

RE: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Dov Isaacs
Will never happen, either or both! At 09:44 -0500 1/3/11, Alan Houser wrote: Indeed it was. In my dreams, Apple buys Adobe and forces them to revive it. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send

RE: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:27 -0800 2/3/11, Dov Isaacs wrote: It is absolutely not going to ever happen! And what makes you really think that Apple gives a d*mn about FrameMaker? Two answers... . First point: I was joking. . Second point: Apple still uses FrameMaker for a lot of its own documentation, about

Re: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Scott Turner
There is a third point, which is just as viable: What makes you think that Adobe gives a d*mn about FrameMaker? Scott On Mar 2, 2011, at 11:44, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: At 09:27 -0800 2/3/11, Dov Isaacs wrote: It is absolutely not going to ever happen! And

RE: autonumber at end of text is mis-aligned

2011-03-02 Thread Fred Ridder
That's just the way autonumbering works. The autonumber characters always appear after the pilcrow, all the way at the paragraph's right margin setting. The only way I see to accomplish what you want to do is to use a 2-paragraph solution. You'd define a new paragraph tag that has whatever

RE: autonumber at end of text is mis-aligned

2011-03-02 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Leigh, Thanks the way it works in FrameMaker. If you are using structured FrameMaker, you can use a suffix instead. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com From:

SV: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Steve wrote: The sooner Apple buys the company, the better. Hmmm ... Why? What is Apple *exactly* doing better than Adobe? Can Apple add value to FrameMaker? I doubt so *very* much. Personally I don't find any acquisition -- either way -- likely in *any* future. Best regards / Med venlig

Re: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Steve Johnson
IMHO, it's time to close out this discussion because it's become a series of meaningless rants. Regardless of what you think about the various versions of Frame over the years, as of the release of Frame 10, the only prior version you can get from Adobe anymore is Frame 9. Adobe has closed the

Keep Cross Reference visible?

2011-03-02 Thread Theresa de Valence
Is there a handy way to keep the cross reference window open? Or some shortcut keys to open it? Thanks, Theresa ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To

Re: autonumber at end of text is mis-aligned

2011-03-02 Thread Bernard Gagne
Hi Leigh, This appears to be the intended behaviour. To be honest, I can't think of a single instance where I have wanted the autonumber to begin at the end of a paragraph so it has never been an issue for me. Best of luck. Berny Gagne Independent Technical Communications Contractor

RE: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Everette, Dimi
Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I'm excited about getting FM 10 here at work. I've been using FM9 for a couple of years, and it was a huge improvement over 7.2 to me. I've used only unstructured and I'm just doing run-of-the-mill technical publications, but I love FrameMaker--always have and

RE: Keep Cross Reference visible?

2011-03-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Theresa de Valence wrote: Is there a handy way to keep the cross reference window open? Or some shortcut keys to open it? Version? Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --

RE: Keep Cross Reference visible?

2011-03-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Theresa de Valence wrote: Is there a handy way to keep the cross reference window open? Or some shortcut keys to open it? Oops, sent too soon. The shortcut Esc s c works in any FM version. But if this is FM 9 or 10, there are other options. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom,

RE: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Everette, Dimi wrote: Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I'm excited about getting FM 10 here at work. I've been using FM9 for a couple of years, and it was a huge improvement over 7.2 to me. I've used only unstructured and I'm just doing run-of-the-mill technical publications, but I love

So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Alan Litchfield
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So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread st...@siliconprairiesoftware.com
[Sorry for the long message. A download at the could make it worthwhile.] It's not an uncommon situation. I have several large documentation sets I maintain that are on FrameMaker 7.0, and it's likely that's where management says they will stay for now. I personally have seen some of the

So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Helen Borrie
At 08:15 AM 2/03/2011, Alan Litchfield wrote: >Yeah, I'm in that boat, and pricing in this part of the world is such that we >get to pay significantly more than those stateside. Worse, that upgrade thing is a cheat. I was contentedly using FM6 which, when bought, had an upgrade path of two

So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
By Adobe changing their upgrade policy, to *not* allow upgrades for a few version back, they essentially have raised their price a lot for those who want to stay even somewhat current. You used to be able to upgrade every three versions without a problem. Now you have to upgrade *every*

So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:51 +0200 2/3/11, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: >You really have to wonder whether we should be looking a for a cheaper >solution. FrameMaker is a good program, but is it really worth the price? As a 'roundly ripped off Mac user' here, my balanced opinion is that by closing off historical upgrade

[f2a] Linkg from Visio diagrams to FM files (final deliverable is a PDF)

2011-03-02 Thread Shlomo Perets
Tammy, You wrote: >I want to modify some Visio diagrams and in this modification, include a >link from different parts of the diagram to different locations in >Framemaker files. The Visio diagrams will be in files that are in the same >book as the files to which I want to link. The final

[f2a] Linkg from Visio diagrams to FM files (final deliverable is a PDF)

2011-03-02 Thread Spectrum Writing
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Fonts not found

2011-03-02 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 01/03/2011 10:57 AM, Anthony Davey wrote: > Hi All, > > Help please. Trialling Frame 10 in TCS3 on XP SP3. From Frame 10, using > a template built in 8, I can display our corporate logo font in the > Frame docs, but when I use Distiller to Save as PDF... the typeface > changes to Times New

So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Dov Isaacs
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So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
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So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:27 -0800 2/3/11, Dov Isaacs wrote: >It is absolutely not going to ever happen! And what makes you really think >that Apple gives a d*mn about FrameMaker? Two answers... . First point: I was joking. . Second point: Apple still uses FrameMaker for a lot of its own documentation, about

autonumber at end of text is mis-aligned

2011-03-02 Thread LW White
, whatever. What's up with this? Thanks, Leigh -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110302/d08f1023/attachment.html>

So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Scott Turner
There is a third point, which is just as viable: "What makes you think that Adobe gives a d*mn about FrameMaker?" Scott On Mar 2, 2011, at 11:44, Steve Rickaby wrote: > At 09:27 -0800 2/3/11, Dov Isaacs wrote: > >> It is absolutely not going to ever happen! And what makes you really think

autonumber at end of text is mis-aligned

2011-03-02 Thread Fred Ridder
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2011-03-02 Thread Rick Quatro
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SV: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Steve wrote: < The sooner Apple buys the company, the better. > Hmmm ... Why? What is Apple *exactly* doing better than Adobe? Can Apple add value to FrameMaker? I doubt so *very* much. Personally I don't find any acquisition -- either way -- likely in *any* future. Best regards / Med venlig

So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Steve Johnson
IMHO, it's time to close out this discussion because it's become a series of meaningless rants. Regardless of what you think about the various versions of Frame over the years, as of the release of Frame 10, the only prior version you can get from Adobe anymore is Frame 9. Adobe has closed the

Keep Cross Reference visible?

2011-03-02 Thread Theresa de Valence
Is there a handy way to keep the cross reference window open? Or some shortcut keys to open it? Thanks, Theresa

autonumber at end of text is mis-aligned

2011-03-02 Thread Bernard Gagne
Hi Leigh, This appears to be the intended behaviour. To be honest, I can't think of a single instance where I have wanted the autonumber to begin at the end of a paragraph so it has never been an issue for me. Best of luck. Berny Gagne Independent Technical Communications Contractor

So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Everette, Dimi
Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I'm excited about getting FM 10 here at work. I've been using FM9 for a couple of years, and it was a huge improvement over 7.2 to me. I've used only unstructured and I'm just doing run-of-the-mill technical publications, but I love FrameMaker--always have and

So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Dov Isaacs mailto:isaacs at adobe.com>> It is absolutely not going to ever happen! And what makes you really think that Apple gives a d*mn about FrameMaker? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/a

Keep Cross Reference visible?

2011-03-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Theresa de Valence wrote: > Is there a handy way to keep the cross reference window open? Or some > shortcut keys to open it? Version? Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --

Keep Cross Reference visible?

2011-03-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Theresa de Valence wrote: > Is there a handy way to keep the cross reference window open? Or some > shortcut keys to open it? Oops, sent too soon. The shortcut Esc s c works in any FM version. But if this is FM 9 or 10, there are other options. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer

So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Everette, Dimi wrote: > Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I'm excited about getting FM 10 here > at work. I've been using FM9 for a couple of years, and it was a huge > improvement over 7.2 to me. I've used only unstructured and I'm just > doing run-of-the-mill technical publications, but I love

So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

2011-03-02 Thread Don Rinderknecht
Well, you can still upgrade to Frame 10 from 8 or 9 (not just 9) but riddle me this batman You can upgrade to Tech Comm Suite from Frame 7 for $1299 (saves you 300 over TCS direct purchase). I really wish Adobe would come out with a roll your own suite... I've got CS5, but Frame

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2011-03-02 Thread Martin Ley
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