Hi Ed
I'm not sure whether the DITA community is leaning towards XSL-FO. Yes,
oXygen XML Author/Editor is an excellent DITA editor, but I fully agree
with Scott: XSL-FO is complicated and expensive. The main reason why people
TRY to use XSL-FO to generate PDFs from DITA-sourced content is because
Also, I could not find the search capability on frameusers.com to search
older topics
by keyword other then the archive that looks like something out of the 90's.
Am I
missing some capability somewhere?
I use the search at
This is old-school, but If your line spacing is standard, one option would
be to place a new flow on the master page(s) just wide enough for the largest
line number.
On the body page(s), you would insert into that flow a series of autonumbered
paragraphs with no other content. (They should
Yes, I get the error with FM and BOOK files (but I won't work FMs
without opening them from a BOOK, so...).
No, I don't get the error with local FM or BOOK files.
I see no changes in behavior based on time, though I haven't tried to
completely error-trap (i.e., once I have the BOOK open, I get
Hi Rick,
The workaround is to undock the paragraph designer and make it floating and
then remove the autonumber,it works for me.
Regards,
Harpreet
Adobe Systems
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Nothing I've read suggests to me that FM11 is professional-grade.
Something's very wrong with Adobe's quality control.
I'd like to dump FM10 but haven't found a practical alternative.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
Hi Harpreet,
OK, this does work, but
Hello David,
lately I have a similar problem: double-clicking
takes vey long to start the application and to open the file,
whereas the normal Open dialog from within the application works as
usual.
This is not always the case, but if, then it happens with any
application, also MS Word,
Thinking about the bizarre UI bugs Rick Quatro reported today, I'm
wondering how the product got to this sad state.
FM started out on Unix, and a lot of dialogs seem like they haven't
changed since then, or at least not since the original Mac and Windows
ports in 1990 and 1992. But that stuff was
Hi Rick
have you tried removing the Tag value in the MIF file? I haven't got FM11 so
can't test this myself.
It'd be a seriously annoying workaround but better than no workaround at all!
Cheers
Rebecca
Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com 27/02/13 07:51
I found an another annoying bug in
Thanks, Gary, for sharing this important note about your experience regarding
conditional text. I have passed your, and everyone else's info, to the
appropriate personnel here.
Thanks again and I will make sure they make copies before attempting to delete
anything.
Thanks again,
Jaime
From:
Scott Prentice wrote:
If your PDF layout requirements are very simple, XSL-FO *may* be a good option
for you. ...
In my opinion, FO is good for high volume and moderate to low PDF formatting
requirements. Yes, you can make it do most of what you can do with Frame, but
it'll
require a
I have never been pleased with the pods that FM introduced in FM9.
They are not standard Windows dialog boxes, which limits the use of
automation tools like AutoIt and are not as stable as the standard
dialog box method. It's sad that Adobe chose to put look and feel
ahead of functionality.
Hi Harro
If you can develop an FO stylesheet for DITA-sourced content in only 3
times the amount of time it takes me to develop the same DITA-FMx template,
then we should talk. We may have a lot of work for you then. ;-)
Cheers
--
Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:19
I can understand that Adobe tries to have the same consistent UI across all
its products. And yes, we all go with the flow as software and UIs evolve,
so I have grown accustomed to the new look, but my main concern is
productivity. Each new version of FrameMaker seems to require more clicks
to get
Harro...
Yes .. $200K is a bit extreme, and hopefully not the norm, but that is
what can happen over a number of years of tweaking and adjustments of FO
stylesheets. Something that many groups do as a natural course of events
through FrameMaker templates. My main point is that it's good to be
I started using Frame at version 9. I found the previous interface(s) to be
awkward, weird, and intimidating, as did some of my colleagues. I tried at
version 4 and put it away. I'm not delighted with everything about the pods
interface, and the bugs are definitely troubling, but it seems to me
Hi Framers,
FM 9 p 237 and FM 7 p576
Situation: Converting files between FM 7 and FM 9. All links and file
references are relative when I start but appear to become absolute when I
convert either way.
I need to share files with a coworker at another site. I have FM 9 and he has
FM 7. The
I'd love to hear an explanation as I often have the same relative/absolute
issue with graphics and xrefs when my files are returned from the translators.
Although in my case, everything is done in FM 9 or with the MIF 9 format - so
my issue has nothing to do with Frame versioning.
Alison
PS:
Alison
We find that graphics on the same drive as the original files are relative.
Graphics on a separate drive are absolute.
--Paul
On 27 February 2013 at 18:09 Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:
I’d love to hear an explanation as I often have the same relative/absolute
(Cross-posted from Yahoo framedev forum, seems like an employee might need to answer and I see some on this list) Hi,Has anyone successfully added their own dialog to a workspace, then gotten it to appear when that workspace is selected or reset? The FDK doc implies that this can be done, but I
I would agree, as when I send the files out – all on the same drive –
everything works fine with relative paths.
But when they come back – still all on the same drive – they are returned with
absolute paths.
That’s my dilemma. The relative positions of the files don’t change – but the
paths
I don't think Adobe's UI work has anything to do with Macs. In fact,
it seems to be the antithesis of Mac UI design! :-)
Recent/current versions of FM's UI (and those of other Adobe
products) apparently do not make comprehensible use of usability
research! The complaints I read on this list
Harro de Jong wrote:
Also, I could not find the search capability on frameusers.com to search
older topics
by keyword other then the archive that looks like something out of the 90's.
Am I
missing some capability somewhere?
I use the search at
Hi,
OK. It should never happen, that some features do not work.
Or that features/shortcut keys get broken.
However, the new interface really offers some very useful
dialogs. For example:
o Checking all references with the Insets pod.
o Checking cross-references with the Cross-references pod.
o
Hi Alison,
I would ask your translation agency what they exactly do
with your FrameMaker and graphics files. If they store the
graphics files on another drive, the paths become absolute.
That should not happen.
The agency should use the very same directory structure as
you have.
Best regards
DITA-sourced content (via Word): www.dita2go.com
Cheers
--
Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu
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Hi Rick,
The workaround is to undock the paragraph designer and make it floating and
then remove the autonumber,it works for me.
Regards,
Harpreet
Adobe Systems
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> for you. ...
> In my opinion, FO is good for high volume and moderate to low PDF formatting
> requirements. Yes, you can make it do most of what you can do with Frame, but
> it'll
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I have never been pleased with the "pods" that FM introduced in FM9.
They are not standard Windows dialog boxes, which limits the use of
automation tools like AutoIt and are not as stable as the standard
dialog box method. It's sad that Adobe chose to put "look and feel"
ahead of
At 11:28 -0800 26/2/13, Robert Lauriston wrote:
>Thinking about the bizarre UI bugs Rick Quatro reported today, I'm
>wondering how the product got to this sad state.
I remember being told a long time ago that the pre-Adobe versions of FrameMaker
were so efficient on the limited hardware of
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I hope Adobe will pay some more attention to this for the next (patch)
release.
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Yves
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I started using Frame at version 9. I found the previous interface(s) to be
awkward, weird, and intimidating, as did some of my colleagues. I tried at
version 4 and put it away. I'm not delighted with everything about the pods
interface, and the bugs are definitely "troubling", but it seems to me
now. I've seen the traffic on the list about FM 11; I have no desire to
update to it at this time so I'm hoping he doesn't have to, either.
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FM 11 now. I've seen the traffic on the list about FM 11; I have no desire to
update to it at this time so I'm hoping he doesn't have to, either.
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I don't think Adobe's UI work has anything to do with Macs. In fact,
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Recent/current versions of FM's UI (and those of other Adobe
products) apparently do not make comprehensible use of usability
research! The complaints I read on this list
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