The hell you say. The only deadline I've ever missed was the result of
my department's PCs being updated to Word 2003 without warning. There
were bugs that made it impossible to update the headers and footers in
a new features doc that had to be in Word format because marketing had
the final cut.
Hello Everybody,
For the record, Adobe has made no announcements about Tech Comm Suite,
FrameMaker or RoboHelp going to subscription only. The announcements discussed
in this thread only involve Creative Suite. The change in future distribution
of Creative Cloud was announced at the Adobe MAX
Flare doesn't offer anything I need that I don't already have from
FrameMaker and WebWorks, and it lacks some things I find very useful,
such as WYSIWYG editing for continuous PDF preview and the ability to
save change markup to PDF for review.
And neither do the thing I'm most interested in
I appreciate everyone's feedback, but plans to build a
competitive product and business plans for a competitive product may be a bit
premature. ;-)
I strongly disagree. I think it's been a long time coming. I want more choices.
I want to be able to see the text in the index dialog box.
Not sure why you need to doubt my statement--but, let's see...
I use on a regular basis:
Photoshop
Lightroom
InDesign (with DPS)
InCopy (currently I purchase separately, but it will be the new ACC release)
Dreamweaver
Edge Animate/Services
Premiere Pro/Encore
Media Encoder
After Effects
I don't doubt your statement, I was just curious. I didn't notice that
you do training stuff, that often requires a bigger and broader
toolkit.
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:01 AM, David Creamer
ideasli...@ideastraining.com wrote:
Not sure why you need to doubt my statement--but, let's see...
I
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 11:33 AM
To: craig...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
I say we start a new
So far, most have been talking about the Adobe Creative Cloud. I found that
I need to subscribe to the ACC _and_ the Technical Communication Suite ($50
plus $70 per month US) to get all the software I need. Unfortunately, there
are two programs that overlap (AI and Acrobat). I wish Adobe would
Good idea, David, a Creative Technical Communication Suite or better
still, custom suites at a discount, for example: InDesign + FrameMaker +
Illustrator + Photoshop + Acrobat (I don't need Captivate, Dreamweaver
etc.).
I also hope that the hardware (computer, hard disk space, RAM) can keep up
What Adobe programs do you need that aren't in TCS 4?
Illustrator replaced Photoshop, which was in TCS 3.5, but there are
freeware bitmap editors that do everything I need.
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM, David Creamer
ideasli...@ideastraining.com wrote:
So far, most have been talking about
This move is problematic for enterprises who exchange and archive files and
who need the ability to do version management. (And by that I mean tool
version.) Lots of customers are deliberately on old versions because
moving is a big deal and slow: You want to be sure that you can open old
files
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Subject: RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
Isn't that what MadCap tried to do?
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent
@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
I raise my hand ... :)
Now ... who is responsible for getting funding?
Z
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer
Dear Rick,
please allow one note about the print engine.
FrameMaker is still using the old Distiller engine (at least version
10 does).
I recently had to switch a workflow from Indesign to
FrameMaker and found it annoying that Indesign would produce a valid PDF
right away whereas with
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Mon, May 13, 2013 9:03:21 AM
Subject: RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
2013-05-13-01T13:00Z
There's that death knell again . . ..
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun
need quality print and PDF
output. Thanks for the feedback.
Rick
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Heiko Haida
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:11 PM
To: Framers
Subject: RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription
Old versions of FrameMaker do what FrameMaker used to do as well as
ever. I'd really like to get my hands on a copy of FrameMaker 8.
That whole model seems outdated to me. I'd like to switch to Confluence.
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz wrote:
Time for a
Hi Jeremy
Did you consider expanding LaTeX?
A fully-featured reliable wysiwyg interface for LaTeX could be a strong
unstructured FM alternative.
It's years since I used LaTeX much but I found it pretty good when I did. Not
easy, but good.
Cheers
Rebecca
Jeremy H. Griffith
Another option is to expand OpenOffice,
which is also pretty good, but need more single-sourcing
capabilities.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133
On 13-May-13 1:38 AM, rebecca officer wrote:
Hi Jeremy
...@omsys.com wrote:
From: Jeremy H. Griffith jer...@omsys.com
Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
Received: Saturday, May 11, 2013, 8:54 PM
On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:33:13 -0700
(PDT), Writer
generic
2013-05-13-01T13:00Z
There's that death knell again . . ..
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: 2013-05-09-Thursday 12:38
To:
On Mon, 13 May 2013 10:38:05 +1200, rebecca officer
rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz wrote:
Did you consider expanding LaTeX?
Not really. There's a well-established community
around it, and lacking any familiarity with it, we
didn't think we could do it much good.
A fully-featured reliable
-Saturday 20:54
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:33:13 -0700 (PDT), Writer generic...@yahoo.ca
wrote:
I say we start a new company and create a competitor to FrameMaker!
Who's with me? Anyone? Anyone
@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
2013-05-13-01T15:15Z
I, too, am interested in addition to Alan Litchfield, Syed Hosain, et al.
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers
On Mon, 13 May 2013 08:15:19 -0700, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote:
I, too, am interested in addition to Alan Litchfield, Syed Hosain, et
al.
I've had several off-list replies as well. I think
you hit a nerve there, Nadine!
So I've put the five-year-old draft spec for Omni 2
on the Mif2Go Web
Yes! It is one of the reasons I am now looking at them as a possible tool for
my work - will be starting an evaluation in a few weeks.
However, at first blush, the cost (both to change and to maintain) appears to
be very high and thus one negative so far.
Z
-Original Message-
From:
Pardon my ignorance, but what is SaaS basis?
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:38 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: OT: Corporate madness -
I say we start a new company and create a competitor to FrameMaker! Who's with
me? Anyone? Anyone?
*crickets chirp*
=D
Nadine
- Original Message -
From: Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:24:36 PM
Subject: FW:
Even better, let's all switch to DITA and use whatever tools we like for
editing and publishing.
On 2013-05-11 14:33, Writer wrote:
I say we start a new company and create a competitor to FrameMaker! Who's with
me? Anyone? Anyone?
*crickets chirp*
=D
Nadine
- Original Message -
@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
I say we start a new company and create a competitor to FrameMaker! Who's with
me? Anyone? Anyone?
*crickets chirp*
=D
Nadine
- Original Message -
From: Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com
To: framers
Syed: smaller-entity users (such as individual tech writers, graphics
artists and consultants) for whom the cost of tools is an issue...
I AM one of them and the cost of tools is very much an issue...I could
never have afforded the one-time purchase of thousands of dollars I'd need
to get what's
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Cc: Steve Rickaby; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
Syed: smaller-entity users (such as individual tech writers, graphics artists
and consultants) for whom the cost of tools is an issue
SaaS = software as a service, which usually means a web application
you access through a browser. That's not what Adobe's doing.
Creative Cloud applications are locally installed just like always.
The only difference is that the license has an expiration date. If you
don't pay and it expires,
On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:33:13 -0700 (PDT), Writer
generic...@yahoo.ca wrote:
I say we start a new company and create a competitor
to FrameMaker! Who's with me? Anyone? Anyone?
Well... we've had one on the back burner for several
years now. Basically it's an Open Source GPL project,
so zero
Jeremy,
Very keen to know more, mate. Time for a robust system that does what FM
used to do so well.
Alan
On 12/05/13 12:54 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote:
On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:33:13 -0700 (PDT), Writer
generic...@yahoo.ca wrote:
I say we start a new company and create a competitor
to
At 17:02 + 9/5/13, Bethany Lee wrote
:
Pardon my ignorance, but what is SaaS basis?
Sorry, my bad just finished a book on software security.
'Saas' = 'software as a service', i.e. pay-as-you-use, often with the apps
hosted in the cloud.
--
Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less
This is not just a rumor I think ... it is mentioned on the Adobe web site for
their CS tools (... have not seen anything for FrameMaker though). This may
work for some (many?) corporate users, but as far as I am concerned, it is just
one more nail in the Adobe tools coffin (for example, see my
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