shortcuts not working RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question
I really think this is a result of the way the pods work. This can result in mistaking where your active cursor is. I have never seen the shrink-wrap shortcut ignored in FM 10, 11 or 12 (and I use that function a lot). But such shortcuts won't work if you're cursor is sitting in a pod or if your caps lock key is on. Not time this happens, check to make sure where you selection is. (One assumes either the frame or any graphic element within the frame is selected when using the shortcut, but double check that.) The pods take some getting used to, but you can set them up in saveable ways that suit you and pop them open and closed easily from their docked positions so they take up little screen real estate. And knowing whether you are in them or not is predictable as well. BTW: I've been working a lot in FM8 for the last 6 weeks and the way book files are handled (and the constraint of having files all having to live together within one window on one screen) is driving me batty. This is much better handled in modern FrameMaker versions like FM12. Craig > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:04 PM, De Rosier, Edward > wrote: > > ... Why do keyboard commands sometimes get ignored? I like keyboard cmds > > such as [Esc] [m] [p] to minimize an anchored frame around a graphic image. > > When the PC is freshly booted and FrameMaker is freshly launched, this > > usually works. At times, however, keyboard commands are ignored. > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question
FrameMaker 9 broke a lot of keyboard shortcuts and Adobe still has not fixed many of them. See the email from Adobe I posted in the thread "workarounds for FM10 UI bugs?" on June 2. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:04 PM, De Rosier, Edward wrote: > ... Why do keyboard commands sometimes get ignored? I like keyboard cmds > such as [Esc] [m] [p] to minimize an anchored frame around a graphic image. > When the PC is freshly booted and FrameMaker is freshly launched, this > usually works. At times, however, keyboard commands are ignored. > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question
At 09:09 a.m. 4/06/2015, Dave Reynolds wrote: >I'm using Frame 8 on Win7 and occasionally the keyboard shortcuts (standard >and custom) stop working for me too. As yet, I haven't found out why. I have >to restart Frame to get them working again. I'm using FM8 on Win7 64-bit and I've noticed similar, but only when I have one or more of those right-hand-side menus open. I don't need to restart Frame to get the shortcuts back, though, just close those (damned near useless) side-menus. It was the same when I had FM8 installed on XP. Helen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question
I'm using Frame 8 on Win7 and occasionally the keyboard shortcuts (standard and custom) stop working for me too. As yet, I haven't found out why. I have to restart Frame to get them working again. Cheers Dave On 4/06/2015 4:32 a.m., De Rosier, Edward wrote: Hi Craig, Thanks for the information. It is interesting that CMYK and RGB choices make a difference in the internal handling of graphics by FM. The failing keyboard commands have been going on for several months now, and I make sure the caps lock key is not on. I have been learning workarounds, even going so far as to saving a file with special characters (e.g., non-breaking hyphen) so that I can copy and paste. I have even used the search and replace to use the "\+" to replace regular hyphens. The problem is seriously annoying. FM was extremely stable before Adobe added the new interface with pods. I don't mind the new interface, but I would prefer stable and predictable to fancy ... especially unnecessary fancy. Oh well ... Thanks for your input, Ed -- -- This email, including any attachments, is only for the intended recipient. It is subject to copyright, is confidential and may be the subject of legal or other privilege, none of which is waived or lost by reason of this transmission. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not use, disseminate, distribute or reproduce such email, any attachments, or any part thereof. If you have received a message in error, please notify the sender immediately and erase all copies of the message and any attachments. Unfortunately, we cannot warrant that the email has not been altered or corrupted during transmission nor can we guarantee that any email or any attachments are free from computer viruses or other conditions which may damage or interfere with recipient data, hardware or software. The recipient relies upon its own procedures and assumes all risk of use and of opening any attachments. -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question
I find FrameMaker's menu structure quite illogical, although I know it by heart after using Frame for almost 20 years. I have found, with Microsoft's Office applications, that the ribbon interface has made me more productive and does make it easier to find less used commands. One thing though that Adobe should consider implementing, if they do modify Frame to use a ribbon interface, is an equivalent to the Quick Access Toolbar. I've set up my Word with a QAT of about 30 icons for my most frequently used commands (including some macros) and set the ribbon to show only when I click on the pane name. I had actually created something similar using a custom toolbar in Word 2003, but this is much easier to set up and use. As always, preferences vary, and I quite appreciate that this may not work for everyone. Regards Keith -- Keith Soltys Senior Technical Writer Architecture TMX Group (416) 947-4397 http://www.tmx.com/ -Original Message- From: De Rosier, Edward [mailto:edward.deros...@anritsu.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 1:49 PM To: Keith Soltys Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question Keith, In my opinion, the ribbon is not any better than menus that use drop-down lists. In most instances (for me), the ribbon is less intuitive than drop-down menus, and I frequently struggle to find specific commands. My tired old eyes prefer larger fonts and images, but the ribbons take up a lot of screen real estate compared to a single row of menu items. Why not offer drop-down menus that can be pulled away as free floating and dockable pods? All software house should provide an interface option that allows users to get all of the new features (in any specific release) with a choice of interface options: menu driven choices, ribbon choices, pod choices, keyboard commands, etc. And, of course, they should not rearrange the location of various commands unless those commands were truly in odd locations previously. Marketing decisions often seem to override functionality in favor of glitz and glitter. Ed -Original Message- From: Keith Soltys [mailto:keith.sol...@tmx.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 10:11 AM To: De Rosier, Edward Subject: RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question > I don't mind the new interface, but I would prefer stable and predictable to > fancy ... especially unnecessary fancy. Oh well ... Ha! Just wait until they add the ribbon interface like they just did in RoboHelp 2015. ` Regards Keith -- Keith Soltys Senior Technical Writer Architecture TMX Group (416) 947-4397 http://www.tmx.com/ NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ Le présent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destinés uniquement à l'usage interne du destinataire prévu. Si vous avez reçu le présent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser immédiatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprimé de façon permanente de vos systèmes; veuillez également vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question
Keith, In my opinion, the ribbon is not any better than menus that use drop-down lists. In most instances (for me), the ribbon is less intuitive than drop-down menus, and I frequently struggle to find specific commands. My tired old eyes prefer larger fonts and images, but the ribbons take up a lot of screen real estate compared to a single row of menu items. Why not offer drop-down menus that can be pulled away as free floating and dockable pods? All software house should provide an interface option that allows users to get all of the new features (in any specific release) with a choice of interface options: menu driven choices, ribbon choices, pod choices, keyboard commands, etc. And, of course, they should not rearrange the location of various commands unless those commands were truly in odd locations previously. Marketing decisions often seem to override functionality in favor of glitz and glitter. Ed -Original Message- From: Keith Soltys [mailto:keith.sol...@tmx.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 10:11 AM To: De Rosier, Edward Subject: RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question > I don't mind the new interface, but I would prefer stable and predictable to > fancy ... especially unnecessary fancy. Oh well ... Ha! Just wait until they add the ribbon interface like they just did in RoboHelp 2015. ` Regards Keith -- Keith Soltys Senior Technical Writer Architecture TMX Group (416) 947-4397 http://www.tmx.com/ -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of De Rosier, Edward Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 12:33 PM To: Craig Ede Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question Hi Craig, Thanks for the information. It is interesting that CMYK and RGB choices make a difference in the internal handling of graphics by FM. The failing keyboard commands have been going on for several months now, and I make sure the caps lock key is not on. I have been learning workarounds, even going so far as to saving a file with special characters (e.g., non-breaking hyphen) so that I can copy and paste. I have even used the search and replace to use the "\+" to replace regular hyphens. The problem is seriously annoying. FM was extremely stable before Adobe added the new interface with pods. I don't mind the new interface, but I would prefer stable and predictable to fancy ... especially unnecessary fancy. Oh well ... Thanks for your input, Ed ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question
On 2015-Jun-02 8:04 PM, De Rosier, Edward wrote: Hello, Thanks to all who made suggestions for the use of transparent graphics. Even when using a clipping path in an EPS file, we had trouble with the thin line around the image border. We eventually decided to add the product image and the background logo as a single combined image ... because we can control all of the settings and variations within Adobe Illustrator. This does complicate our process just a little bit, but we get what we want. NEW QUESTION: Still FM12 on Win7 PC Why do keyboard commands sometimes get ignored? I like keyboard cmds such as [Esc] [m] [p] to minimize an anchored frame around a graphic image. When the PC is freshly booted and FrameMaker is freshly launched, this usually works. At times, however, keyboard commands are ignored. This also is true for commands such as [Esc] [Spacebar] [n or m] for en and em spaces, and [Esc] [-] [h] for non-breaking hyphens. It takes a reboot of FM software AND the Windows OS to get this feature to work ... but only sometimes ... at times I just need to wait a few days8-(ARGHHH ! In contrast, commands such as [Ctrl]+[q] [Shift]+[p] provide an en dash even when the Escape commands fail. Your advice is always appreciated. I have been on the digest since FM 4 and enjoy the information as well as the banter. Thanks, Ed DeRosier If the focus is on one of the pods, the keyboard commands may not work. My most-often-used command is Reset Workspace (to my Blank workspace, which has all pods closed). HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question
Hi Craig, Thanks for the information. It is interesting that CMYK and RGB choices make a difference in the internal handling of graphics by FM. The failing keyboard commands have been going on for several months now, and I make sure the caps lock key is not on. I have been learning workarounds, even going so far as to saving a file with special characters (e.g., non-breaking hyphen) so that I can copy and paste. I have even used the search and replace to use the "\+" to replace regular hyphens. The problem is seriously annoying. FM was extremely stable before Adobe added the new interface with pods. I don't mind the new interface, but I would prefer stable and predictable to fancy ... especially unnecessary fancy. Oh well ... Thanks for your input, Ed >>>>> From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 7:26 PM To: De Rosier, Edward Subject: RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question With FM12 through update 12.0.2.389 transparent graphics worked for me if I printed to CMYK. It takes longer but works. I had two graphics with clipping paths that I was using on top of a patterned background. I never saw thin lines around the borders either. With the later FM12 updates CMYK caused some graphics to disappear entirely so that made CMYK printing impossibly chancy. RGB worked fine but lost the transparency. I never had problems with Esc-m-p except when the caps lock key was accidentally on or when neither a graphic or an anchored frame weren't selected. Worked every time for me. Same with non-breaking hyphens, so maybe your caps lock key is on. Can't comment on the en and em spaces. Good luck, Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question
Hello, Thanks to all who made suggestions for the use of transparent graphics. Even when using a clipping path in an EPS file, we had trouble with the thin line around the image border. We eventually decided to add the product image and the background logo as a single combined image ... because we can control all of the settings and variations within Adobe Illustrator. This does complicate our process just a little bit, but we get what we want. NEW QUESTION: Still FM12 on Win7 PC Why do keyboard commands sometimes get ignored? I like keyboard cmds such as [Esc] [m] [p] to minimize an anchored frame around a graphic image. When the PC is freshly booted and FrameMaker is freshly launched, this usually works. At times, however, keyboard commands are ignored. This also is true for commands such as [Esc] [Spacebar] [n or m] for en and em spaces, and [Esc] [-] [h] for non-breaking hyphens. It takes a reboot of FM software AND the Windows OS to get this feature to work ... but only sometimes ... at times I just need to wait a few days8-(ARGHHH ! In contrast, commands such as [Ctrl]+[q] [Shift]+[p] provide an en dash even when the Escape commands fail. Your advice is always appreciated. I have been on the digest since FM 4 and enjoy the information as well as the banter. Thanks, Ed DeRosier -Original Message- From: De Rosier, Edward Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:42 AM Subject: FM12 Transparent Graphics Hello Framers, We are using FM 12 (TCS 5) on Windows 7 PCs. When we add a product image to the body page, the white background of the product image masks a portion of the background image. We have tried images (referenced from a common image folder) of the following types: Adobe Illustrator (*.ai), Adobe Photoshop (*.psd), *.png, and *.eps. Even though we have carefully created knocked out images with transparent backgrounds, we have not been able to avoid the masking effect. Thank you, Ed DeRosier Technical Writer Anritsu Company, Morgan Hill, California, USA ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
