Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Fred Ridder

Jim Owens wrote:
> I've just tested this. For what it's worth, if your Figure Titles are 
> not in anchored frames in the main flow (for example, if you've placed 
> them in graphics frames containing text frames for the captions, or in 
> text frames containing anchored frames for the graphics), the 
> autonumbering isn't incremented from one frame to the next unless you 
> manually link the frames into a flow.


Correct, and perfectly logical if you think about it. How can Frame apply
autonumbering in a logical way except within the context of a single 
text flow?  This is my bet for the root cause of Jim P's problem since
most of the other possibilities have been eliminated already.

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Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Jim Owens
I've just tested this. For what it's worth, if your Figure Titles are 
not in anchored frames in the main flow (for example, if you've placed 
them in graphics frames containing text frames for the captions, or in 
text frames containing anchored frames for the graphics), the 
autonumbering isn't incremented from one frame to the next unless you 
manually link the frames into a flow.

Pinkham, Jim wrote:
> This, too, was worth a shot, but did not resolve the issue. 
> 
> Appreciate the idea,
> Jim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Owens [mailto:jowens at magma.ca] 
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:14 PM
> To: Pinkham, Jim
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
> 
> Your Figure number contains a second counter which you aren't incrementing or 
> displaying (< >).  It's a shot in the dark, but what happens if you remove 
> the second counter?
> 
> 
> Pinkham, Jim wrote:
>> Hi, Art --
>>
>> Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
>> results:
>>
>> * The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
>> * I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
>> formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use 
>> only the A, H, and U numbering streams.
>> * I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering 
>> stream. Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
>> sub-chapter).
>> * I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters 
>> and updated the book. Still no luck.
>>
>> I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:36 AM
>> To: Pinkham, Jim
>> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
>>
>> A couple things to check:
>>
>> * This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition 
>> doesn't include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\ 
>> <$chapnum>\+< >\t).
>>
>> * Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
>> F: numbering stream?
>> You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files that 
>> make up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused letter.
>>
>> * And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using Import 
>> Formats?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim  
>> wrote:
>>> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but 
>>> I've got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
>>> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages 
>>> are broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 
>>> 4, where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My 
>>> chapter numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the 
>>> multiple files, but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt 
>>> to follow my trusty O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have 
>>> any tables in this chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>>>
>>>  Here's the scheme:
>>>
>>>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>>>
>>>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t
>>>
>>>  ?berschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)
>>>
>>>  A:<$chapnum>\t
>>>
>>>  ?berschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)
>>>
>>>  H:<$chapnum>.< >\t
>>>
>>>  Tabellentitel (Table Title)
>>>
>>>  U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as 
>>> follows:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
>>>
>>>  Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
>>>
>>>  Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make 
>>> sure there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
>>> numbering.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see 
>>> it. Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>>
>>>  Jim
>>
>> --
>> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
>>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
>> redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
>>  DoD 358
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Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Jim Owens
How are you placing the figure numbers? Are they in a separate flow from 
the main flow?  I don't remember for sure if this affects autonumbering, 
but I have a sneaky feeling it does. I will check my old files and see.

Pinkham, Jim wrote:
> This, too, was worth a shot, but did not resolve the issue. 
> 
> Appreciate the idea,
> Jim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Owens [mailto:jowens at magma.ca] 
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:14 PM
> To: Pinkham, Jim
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
> 
> Your Figure number contains a second counter which you aren't incrementing or 
> displaying (< >).  It's a shot in the dark, but what happens if you remove 
> the second counter?
> 
> 
> Pinkham, Jim wrote:
>> Hi, Art --
>>
>> Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
>> results:
>>
>> * The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
>> * I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
>> formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use 
>> only the A, H, and U numbering streams.
>> * I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering 
>> stream. Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
>> sub-chapter).
>> * I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters 
>> and updated the book. Still no luck.
>>
>> I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:36 AM
>> To: Pinkham, Jim
>> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
>>
>> A couple things to check:
>>
>> * This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition 
>> doesn't include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\ 
>> <$chapnum>\+< >\t).
>>
>> * Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
>> F: numbering stream?
>> You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files that 
>> make up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused letter.
>>
>> * And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using Import 
>> Formats?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim  
>> wrote:
>>> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but 
>>> I've got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
>>> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages 
>>> are broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 
>>> 4, where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My 
>>> chapter numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the 
>>> multiple files, but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt 
>>> to follow my trusty O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have 
>>> any tables in this chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>>>
>>>  Here's the scheme:
>>>
>>>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>>>
>>>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t
>>>
>>>  ?berschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)
>>>
>>>  A:<$chapnum>\t
>>>
>>>  ?berschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)
>>>
>>>  H:<$chapnum>.< >\t
>>>
>>>  Tabellentitel (Table Title)
>>>
>>>  U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as 
>>> follows:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
>>>
>>>  Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
>>>
>>>  Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make 
>>> sure there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
>>> numbering.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see 
>>> it. Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>>
>>>  Jim
>>
>> --
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>>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
>> redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
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Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Thanks to all. I think you probably nailed it as a flow issue, Jim. We 
inherited the document in which I was working from one of our offshore 
divisions, so it was not something we built and originated in house. I took the 
radical surgery approach, since the file was small. I left the new paragraph 
formats intact, but deleted all the pages in the chapter, began with a new 
first page, and rebuilt from scratch. Fortunately, this first subchapter had 
only 4 pages, so the task wasn't insurmountable. When I built the pages as we 
normally do, inserting the anchored frames beneath a thin line on the empty 
page, inserting the graphics into the anchored frame, putting the figure title 
as the next paragraph beneath and outside of the anchored frame, there were no 
numbering issues at all. 

I appreciate the help and insights from all.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Jim Owens [mailto:jow...@magma.ca] 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:54 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

I've just tested this. For what it's worth, if your Figure Titles are not in 
anchored frames in the main flow (for example, if you've placed them in 
graphics frames containing text frames for the captions, or in text frames 
containing anchored frames for the graphics), the autonumbering isn't 
incremented from one frame to the next unless you manually link the frames into 
a flow.

Pinkham, Jim wrote:
> This, too, was worth a shot, but did not resolve the issue. 
> 
> Appreciate the idea,
> Jim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Owens [mailto:jowens at magma.ca]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:14 PM
> To: Pinkham, Jim
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
> 
> Your Figure number contains a second counter which you aren't incrementing or 
> displaying (< >).  It's a shot in the dark, but what happens if you remove 
> the second counter?
> 
> 
> Pinkham, Jim wrote:
>> Hi, Art --
>>
>> Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
>> results:
>>
>> * The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
>> * I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
>> formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use 
>> only the A, H, and U numbering streams.
>> * I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering 
>> stream. Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
>> sub-chapter).
>> * I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters 
>> and updated the book. Still no luck.
>>
>> I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:36 AM
>> To: Pinkham, Jim
>> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document 
>> Chapter
>>
>> A couple things to check:
>>
>> * This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition 
>> doesn't include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\ 
>> <$chapnum>\+< >\t).
>>
>> * Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
>> F: numbering stream?
>> You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files that 
>> make up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused letter.
>>
>> * And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using Import 
>> Formats?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim  
>> wrote:
>>> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but 
>>> I've got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
>>> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages 
>>> are broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 
>>> 4, where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My 
>>> chapter numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the 
>>> multiple files, but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt 
>>> to follow my trusty O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have 
>>> any tables in this chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>>>
>>>  Here's the scheme:
>>>
>>>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>>>
>>>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>

Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Stuart Rogers
Pinkham, Jim wrote:

> 
> Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as
> follows:

Just to clarify, you do mean "in the book window"?

> 
> 
> 
> Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
> 
> Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
> 
> Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book


Grasping at straws -- have you gone into each file's pgf Designer, with
your cursor on a Figure caption, and clicked Update All?

HTH,


-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"It is not enough that I succeed.
  Others must fail."

-- Oscar Wilde


RE: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Thanks to all. I think you probably nailed it as a flow issue, Jim. We 
inherited the document in which I was working from one of our offshore 
divisions, so it was not something we built and originated in house. I took the 
radical surgery approach, since the file was small. I left the new paragraph 
formats intact, but deleted all the pages in the chapter, began with a new 
first page, and rebuilt from scratch. Fortunately, this first subchapter had 
only 4 pages, so the task wasn't insurmountable. When I built the pages as we 
normally do, inserting the anchored frames beneath a thin line on the empty 
page, inserting the graphics into the anchored frame, putting the figure title 
as the next paragraph beneath and outside of the anchored frame, there were no 
numbering issues at all. 

I appreciate the help and insights from all.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Jim Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:54 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

I've just tested this. For what it's worth, if your Figure Titles are not in 
anchored frames in the main flow (for example, if you've placed them in 
graphics frames containing text frames for the captions, or in text frames 
containing anchored frames for the graphics), the autonumbering isn't 
incremented from one frame to the next unless you manually link the frames into 
a flow.

Pinkham, Jim wrote:
> This, too, was worth a shot, but did not resolve the issue. 
> 
> Appreciate the idea,
> Jim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:14 PM
> To: Pinkham, Jim
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
> 
> Your Figure number contains a second counter which you aren't incrementing or 
> displaying (< >).  It's a shot in the dark, but what happens if you remove 
> the second counter?
> 
> 
> Pinkham, Jim wrote:
>> Hi, Art --
>>
>> Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
>> results:
>>
>> * The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
>> * I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
>> formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use 
>> only the A, H, and U numbering streams.
>> * I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering 
>> stream. Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
>> sub-chapter).
>> * I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters 
>> and updated the book. Still no luck.
>>
>> I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:36 AM
>> To: Pinkham, Jim
>> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document 
>> Chapter
>>
>> A couple things to check:
>>
>> * This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition 
>> doesn't include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\ 
>> <$chapnum>\+< >\t).
>>
>> * Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
>> F: numbering stream?
>> You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files that 
>> make up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused letter.
>>
>> * And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using Import 
>> Formats?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but 
>>> I've got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
>>> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages 
>>> are broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 
>>> 4, where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My 
>>> chapter numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the 
>>> multiple files, but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt 
>>> to follow my trusty O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have 
>>> any tables in this chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>>>
>>>  Here's the scheme:
>>>
>>>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>>>
>>>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>

Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Pinkham, Jim
This, too, was worth a shot, but did not resolve the issue. 

Appreciate the idea,
Jim

-Original Message-
From: Jim Owens [mailto:jow...@magma.ca] 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:14 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

Your Figure number contains a second counter which you aren't incrementing or 
displaying (< >).  It's a shot in the dark, but what happens if you remove the 
second counter?


Pinkham, Jim wrote:
> Hi, Art --
> 
> Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
> results:
> 
> * The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
> * I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
> formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use 
> only the A, H, and U numbering streams.
> * I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering stream. 
> Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
> sub-chapter).
> * I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters 
> and updated the book. Still no luck.
> 
> I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.
> 
> Jim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:36 AM
> To: Pinkham, Jim
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
> 
> A couple things to check:
> 
> * This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition doesn't 
> include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t).
> 
> * Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
> F: numbering stream?
> You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files that 
> make up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused letter.
> 
> * And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using Import 
> Formats?
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim  
> wrote:
>> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but I've 
>> got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
>> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages are 
>> broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 4, 
>> where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My chapter 
>> numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the multiple files, 
>> but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt to follow my 
>> trusty O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have any tables in 
>> this chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>>
>>  Here's the scheme:
>>
>>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>>
>>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t
>>
>>  ?berschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)
>>
>>  A:<$chapnum>\t
>>
>>  ?berschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)
>>
>>  H:<$chapnum>.< >\t
>>
>>  Tabellentitel (Table Title)
>>
>>  U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t
>>
>>
>>
>>  Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as 
>> follows:
>>
>>
>>
>>  Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
>>
>>  Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
>>
>>  Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book
>>
>>
>>
>>  I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make 
>> sure there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
>> numbering.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see it. 
>> Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>>  Jim
> 
> 
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Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Art Campbell
Jim,
Maybe try creating a new book that only contains the Chapter 4 files
and test in that. That should let you see if the problem is coming
from within Chapter 4 or from an earlier chapter.

Art

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Pinkham, Jim  wrote:
> Hi, Art --
>
>  Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
> results:
>
>  * The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
>  * I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
> formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use 
> only the A, H, and U numbering streams.
>  * I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering 
> stream. Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
> sub-chapter).
>  * I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters 
> and updated the book. Still no luck.
>
>  I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.
>
>  Jim
>
>
>


-- 
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 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
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Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Jim Owens
Your Figure number contains a second counter which you aren't 
incrementing or displaying (< >).  It's a shot in the dark, but what 
happens if you remove the second counter?


Pinkham, Jim wrote:
> Hi, Art --
> 
> Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
> results:
> 
> * The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
> * I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
> formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use 
> only the A, H, and U numbering streams.
> * I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering stream. 
> Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
> sub-chapter).
> * I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters 
> and updated the book. Still no luck.
> 
> I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.
> 
> Jim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:36 AM
> To: Pinkham, Jim
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
> 
> A couple things to check:
> 
> * This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition doesn't 
> include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t).
> 
> * Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
> F: numbering stream?
> You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files that 
> make up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused letter.
> 
> * And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using Import 
> Formats?
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim  
> wrote:
>> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but I've 
>> got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
>> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages are 
>> broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 4, 
>> where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My chapter 
>> numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the multiple files, 
>> but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt to follow my 
>> trusty O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have any tables in 
>> this chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>>
>>  Here's the scheme:
>>
>>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>>
>>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t
>>
>>  ?berschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)
>>
>>  A:<$chapnum>\t
>>
>>  ?berschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)
>>
>>  H:<$chapnum>.< >\t
>>
>>  Tabellentitel (Table Title)
>>
>>  U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t
>>
>>
>>
>>  Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as 
>> follows:
>>
>>
>>
>>  Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
>>
>>  Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
>>
>>  Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book
>>
>>
>>
>>  I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make 
>> sure there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
>> numbering.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see it. 
>> Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>>  Jim
> 
> 
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> redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
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RE: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Fred Ridder

Jim Owens wrote:
> I've just tested this. For what it's worth, if your Figure Titles are 
> not in anchored frames in the main flow (for example, if you've placed 
> them in graphics frames containing text frames for the captions, or in 
> text frames containing anchored frames for the graphics), the 
> autonumbering isn't incremented from one frame to the next unless you 
> manually link the frames into a flow.
 
 
Correct, and perfectly logical if you think about it. How can Frame apply
autonumbering in a logical way except within the context of a single 
text flow?  This is my bet for the root cause of Jim P's problem since
most of the other possibilities have been eliminated already.
 
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Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Jim Owens
I've just tested this. For what it's worth, if your Figure Titles are 
not in anchored frames in the main flow (for example, if you've placed 
them in graphics frames containing text frames for the captions, or in 
text frames containing anchored frames for the graphics), the 
autonumbering isn't incremented from one frame to the next unless you 
manually link the frames into a flow.

Pinkham, Jim wrote:
> This, too, was worth a shot, but did not resolve the issue. 
> 
> Appreciate the idea,
> Jim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:14 PM
> To: Pinkham, Jim
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
> 
> Your Figure number contains a second counter which you aren't incrementing or 
> displaying (< >).  It's a shot in the dark, but what happens if you remove 
> the second counter?
> 
> 
> Pinkham, Jim wrote:
>> Hi, Art --
>>
>> Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
>> results:
>>
>> * The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
>> * I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
>> formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use 
>> only the A, H, and U numbering streams.
>> * I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering 
>> stream. Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
>> sub-chapter).
>> * I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters 
>> and updated the book. Still no luck.
>>
>> I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:36 AM
>> To: Pinkham, Jim
>> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
>>
>> A couple things to check:
>>
>> * This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition 
>> doesn't include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\ 
>> <$chapnum>\+< >\t).
>>
>> * Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
>> F: numbering stream?
>> You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files that 
>> make up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused letter.
>>
>> * And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using Import 
>> Formats?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but 
>>> I've got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
>>> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages 
>>> are broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 
>>> 4, where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My 
>>> chapter numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the 
>>> multiple files, but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt 
>>> to follow my trusty O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have 
>>> any tables in this chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>>>
>>>  Here's the scheme:
>>>
>>>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>>>
>>>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t
>>>
>>>  Überschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)
>>>
>>>  A:<$chapnum>\t
>>>
>>>  Überschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)
>>>
>>>  H:<$chapnum>.< >\t
>>>
>>>  Tabellentitel (Table Title)
>>>
>>>  U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as 
>>> follows:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
>>>
>>>  Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
>>>
>>>  Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make 
>>> sure there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
>>> numbering.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I suspect I'm missing somet

Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Art Campbell
A couple things to check:

* This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition
doesn't include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\
<$chapnum>\+< >\t).

* Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
F: numbering stream?
You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files
that make up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused
letter.

* And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using
Import Formats?



On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim  wrote:
> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but I've 
> got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages are 
> broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 4, 
> where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My chapter 
> numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the multiple files, 
> but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt to follow my trusty 
> O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have any tables in this 
> chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>
>  Here's the scheme:
>
>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>
>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t
>
>  ?berschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)
>
>  A:<$chapnum>\t
>
>  ?berschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)
>
>  H:<$chapnum>.< >\t
>
>  Tabellentitel (Table Title)
>
>  U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t
>
>
>
>  Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as 
> follows:
>
>
>
>  Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
>
>  Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
>
>  Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book
>
>
>
>  I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make 
> sure there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
> numbering.
>
>
>
>  I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see it. 
> Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Jim


-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358


Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Jim Owens
How are you placing the figure numbers? Are they in a separate flow from 
the main flow?  I don't remember for sure if this affects autonumbering, 
but I have a sneaky feeling it does. I will check my old files and see.

Pinkham, Jim wrote:
> This, too, was worth a shot, but did not resolve the issue. 
> 
> Appreciate the idea,
> Jim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:14 PM
> To: Pinkham, Jim
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
> 
> Your Figure number contains a second counter which you aren't incrementing or 
> displaying (< >).  It's a shot in the dark, but what happens if you remove 
> the second counter?
> 
> 
> Pinkham, Jim wrote:
>> Hi, Art --
>>
>> Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
>> results:
>>
>> * The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
>> * I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
>> formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use 
>> only the A, H, and U numbering streams.
>> * I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering 
>> stream. Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
>> sub-chapter).
>> * I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters 
>> and updated the book. Still no luck.
>>
>> I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:36 AM
>> To: Pinkham, Jim
>> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
>>
>> A couple things to check:
>>
>> * This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition 
>> doesn't include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\ 
>> <$chapnum>\+< >\t).
>>
>> * Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
>> F: numbering stream?
>> You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files that 
>> make up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused letter.
>>
>> * And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using Import 
>> Formats?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but 
>>> I've got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
>>> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages 
>>> are broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 
>>> 4, where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My 
>>> chapter numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the 
>>> multiple files, but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt 
>>> to follow my trusty O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have 
>>> any tables in this chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>>>
>>>  Here's the scheme:
>>>
>>>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>>>
>>>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t
>>>
>>>  Überschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)
>>>
>>>  A:<$chapnum>\t
>>>
>>>  Überschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)
>>>
>>>  H:<$chapnum>.< >\t
>>>
>>>  Tabellentitel (Table Title)
>>>
>>>  U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as 
>>> follows:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
>>>
>>>  Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
>>>
>>>  Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make 
>>> sure there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
>>> numbering.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see 
>>> it. Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks

Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Stuart Rogers
Pinkham, Jim wrote:

> 
> Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as
> follows:

Just to clarify, you do mean "in the book window"?

> 
> 
> 
> Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
> 
> Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
> 
> Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book


Grasping at straws -- have you gone into each file's pgf Designer, with
your cursor on a Figure caption, and clicked Update All?

HTH,


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  Others must fail."

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Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Hi, Art --

Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
results:

* The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
* I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use only 
the A, H, and U numbering streams.
* I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering stream. 
Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
sub-chapter).
* I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters and 
updated the book. Still no luck.

I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:36 AM
To: Pinkham, Jim
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

A couple things to check:

* This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition doesn't 
include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t).

* Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
F: numbering stream?
You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files that make 
up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused letter.

* And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using Import 
Formats?



On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim  wrote:
> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but I've 
> got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages are 
> broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 4, 
> where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My chapter 
> numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the multiple files, 
> but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt to follow my trusty 
> O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have any tables in this 
> chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>
>  Here's the scheme:
>
>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>
>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t
>
>  ?berschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)
>
>  A:<$chapnum>\t
>
>  ?berschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)
>
>  H:<$chapnum>.< >\t
>
>  Tabellentitel (Table Title)
>
>  U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t
>
>
>
>  Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as 
> follows:
>
>
>
>  Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
>
>  Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
>
>  Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book
>
>
>
>  I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make 
> sure there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
> numbering.
>
>
>
>  I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see it. 
> Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Jim


--
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 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
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RE: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Pinkham, Jim
This, too, was worth a shot, but did not resolve the issue. 

Appreciate the idea,
Jim

-Original Message-
From: Jim Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:14 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

Your Figure number contains a second counter which you aren't incrementing or 
displaying (< >).  It's a shot in the dark, but what happens if you remove the 
second counter?


Pinkham, Jim wrote:
> Hi, Art --
> 
> Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
> results:
> 
> * The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
> * I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
> formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use 
> only the A, H, and U numbering streams.
> * I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering stream. 
> Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
> sub-chapter).
> * I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters 
> and updated the book. Still no luck.
> 
> I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.
> 
> Jim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:36 AM
> To: Pinkham, Jim
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
> 
> A couple things to check:
> 
> * This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition doesn't 
> include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t).
> 
> * Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
> F: numbering stream?
> You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files that 
> make up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused letter.
> 
> * And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using Import 
> Formats?
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but I've 
>> got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
>> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages are 
>> broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 4, 
>> where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My chapter 
>> numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the multiple files, 
>> but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt to follow my 
>> trusty O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have any tables in 
>> this chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>>
>>  Here's the scheme:
>>
>>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>>
>>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t
>>
>>  Überschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)
>>
>>  A:<$chapnum>\t
>>
>>  Überschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)
>>
>>  H:<$chapnum>.< >\t
>>
>>  Tabellentitel (Table Title)
>>
>>  U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t
>>
>>
>>
>>  Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as 
>> follows:
>>
>>
>>
>>  Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
>>
>>  Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
>>
>>  Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book
>>
>>
>>
>>  I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make 
>> sure there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
>> numbering.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see it. 
>> Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>>  Jim
> 
> 
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Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Pinkham, Jim
I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but I've 
got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the standard 
pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages are broken into 
separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 4, where this is 
happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My chapter numbers and 
heading numbers are working just fine across the multiple files, but my figure 
titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt to follow my trusty O'Keefe and 
Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have any tables in this chapter, so that's 
not an issue -- at least not yet.

Here's the scheme:

Bildtitel (Figures)

F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t

?berschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)

A:<$chapnum>\t

?berschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)

H:<$chapnum>.< >\t

Tabellentitel (Table Title)

U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t



Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as follows:



Chapter  -- use same number as previous file

Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book

Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book



I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make sure 
there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
numbering.



I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see it. 
Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.



Thanks,

Jim



Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Art Campbell
Jim,
Maybe try creating a new book that only contains the Chapter 4 files
and test in that. That should let you see if the problem is coming
from within Chapter 4 or from an earlier chapter.

Art

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Pinkham, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, Art --
>
>  Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
> results:
>
>  * The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
>  * I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
> formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use 
> only the A, H, and U numbering streams.
>  * I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering 
> stream. Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
> sub-chapter).
>  * I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters 
> and updated the book. Still no luck.
>
>  I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.
>
>  Jim
>
>
>


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Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Jim Owens
Your Figure number contains a second counter which you aren't 
incrementing or displaying (< >).  It's a shot in the dark, but what 
happens if you remove the second counter?


Pinkham, Jim wrote:
> Hi, Art --
> 
> Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
> results:
> 
> * The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
> * I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
> formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use 
> only the A, H, and U numbering streams.
> * I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering stream. 
> Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
> sub-chapter).
> * I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters 
> and updated the book. Still no luck.
> 
> I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.
> 
> Jim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:36 AM
> To: Pinkham, Jim
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter
> 
> A couple things to check:
> 
> * This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition doesn't 
> include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t).
> 
> * Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
> F: numbering stream?
> You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files that 
> make up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused letter.
> 
> * And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using Import 
> Formats?
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but I've 
>> got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
>> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages are 
>> broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 4, 
>> where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My chapter 
>> numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the multiple files, 
>> but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt to follow my 
>> trusty O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have any tables in 
>> this chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>>
>>  Here's the scheme:
>>
>>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>>
>>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t
>>
>>  Überschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)
>>
>>  A:<$chapnum>\t
>>
>>  Überschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)
>>
>>  H:<$chapnum>.< >\t
>>
>>  Tabellentitel (Table Title)
>>
>>  U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t
>>
>>
>>
>>  Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as 
>> follows:
>>
>>
>>
>>  Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
>>
>>  Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
>>
>>  Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book
>>
>>
>>
>>  I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make 
>> sure there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
>> numbering.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see it. 
>> Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>>  Jim
> 
> 
> --
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> redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
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RE: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Hi, Art --

Thanks for all of these ideas -- all well worth checking. Here are the early 
results:

* The \+ produces the non-breaking hyphen.
* I deleted all unused paragraph formats except Ch. 1, which has all the 
formats my normal books require. The autonumbered paragraphs in Ch. 1 use only 
the A, H, and U numbering streams.
* I created a FigTest format for Ch. 4 and assigned in a Q: numbering stream. 
Everything still turns out as Fig. 4-1 (for all four figures in this 
sub-chapter).
* I imported the paragraph formats for Ch. 4 into all of the other chapters and 
updated the book. Still no luck.

I remain stymied but hopeful for more ideas.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:36 AM
To: Pinkham, Jim
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

A couple things to check:

* This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition doesn't 
include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t).

* Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
F: numbering stream?
You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files that make 
up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused letter.

* And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using Import 
Formats?



On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but I've 
> got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages are 
> broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 4, 
> where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My chapter 
> numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the multiple files, 
> but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt to follow my trusty 
> O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have any tables in this 
> chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>
>  Here's the scheme:
>
>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>
>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t
>
>  Überschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)
>
>  A:<$chapnum>\t
>
>  Überschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)
>
>  H:<$chapnum>.< >\t
>
>  Tabellentitel (Table Title)
>
>  U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t
>
>
>
>  Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as 
> follows:
>
>
>
>  Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
>
>  Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
>
>  Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book
>
>
>
>  I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make 
> sure there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
> numbering.
>
>
>
>  I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see it. 
> Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Jim


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Re: Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Art Campbell
A couple things to check:

* This may be a minor point or a typo, but your Figure tag definition
doesn't include the - that you mention in text... (>  F:Fig.\
<$chapnum>\+< >\t).

* Is it possible that another tag, somewhere in the book is using the
F: numbering stream?
You may be able to check that by modifying that tag just in the files
that make up  Chapter 4, maybe changing it to f: or any other unused
letter.

* And you've applied the same set of tags to all affected files using
Import Formats?



On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Pinkham, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but I've 
> got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the 
> standard pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages are 
> broken into separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 4, 
> where this is happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My chapter 
> numbers and heading numbers are working just fine across the multiple files, 
> but my figure titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt to follow my trusty 
> O'Keefe and Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have any tables in this 
> chapter, so that's not an issue -- at least not yet.
>
>  Here's the scheme:
>
>  Bildtitel (Figures)
>
>  F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t
>
>  Überschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)
>
>  A:<$chapnum>\t
>
>  Überschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)
>
>  H:<$chapnum>.< >\t
>
>  Tabellentitel (Table Title)
>
>  U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t
>
>
>
>  Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as 
> follows:
>
>
>
>  Chapter  -- use same number as previous file
>
>  Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book
>
>  Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book
>
>
>
>  I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make 
> sure there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
> numbering.
>
>
>
>  I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see it. 
> Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Jim


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Stuck on Figure Autonumbering in a Multi-Document Chapter

2008-04-18 Thread Pinkham, Jim
I'm running FM 7.1p116 on Windows XP SP-2. Maybe, it's just Friday, but I've 
got a book that includes landscape pages with different sizes than the standard 
pages. Accordingly, the chapters containing the landscape pages are broken into 
separate files. I'm working on the first chapter, Chapter 4, where this is 
happening, and my autonumbering is giving me fits. My chapter numbers and 
heading numbers are working just fine across the multiple files, but my figure 
titles all say Fig. 4-1, despite my attempt to follow my trusty O'Keefe and 
Loring handbook faithfully. I don't have any tables in this chapter, so that's 
not an issue -- at least not yet.
 
Here's the scheme:
 
Bildtitel (Figures)

F:Fig.\ <$chapnum>\+< >\t

Überschrift 1. Ebene (Heading1)

A:<$chapnum>\t

Überschrift 2. Ebene (Heading2)

H:<$chapnum>.< >\t

Tabellentitel (Table Title)

U:Tab.\ <$chapnum>\+\t

 

Within the book, I have my numbering for this section of Chapter 4 as follows:

 

Chapter  -- use same number as previous file

Page -- continue numbering from previous page in book

Paragraph -- continue numbering from previous paragraph in book

 

I've deleted all unused styles in these two document files, just to make sure 
there's no other paragraph format that may not be playing nice with my 
numbering.

 

I suspect I'm missing something obvious. Hopefully, one of you will see it. 
Anyway, any help on this will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Jim

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