Re: [Framers] Table Continuation variable issue in Structured FrameMaker
Andy, The mapping of elements to system variables was incorrect in early versions of FM 2019, see https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5408. This bug has been fixed so updating your copy of FrameMaker should solve the problem. --Lynne On 8/20/2019 4:30 AM, Andy Lewis wrote: In my EDD, I have a system variable element called TableContinuation defined as follows: *Element (System Variable): TableContinuation* *System variable format rule* *1. In all contexts.* *Use system variable: Table Continuation* ... For several years everything has been working as designed. Now, suddenly, inserting the TableContinuation element causes the Filename (Long) variable to be inserted within the TableTitle element instead of the Table Continuation variable. -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Table Continuation variable issue in Structured FrameMaker
Hi Andy, The latest build is 15.0.3.603. If you send me a sample document, I will be glad to try it here. I am using the 64-bit version. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Andy Lewis Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 7:30 AM To: Frame Users Subject: [Framers] Table Continuation variable issue in Structured FrameMaker Hi Framers, Hope you can help me out here. I am using Structured FrameMaker 2019 32-bit version 15.0.0.393 on Windows 10 Enterprise Evaluation edition. In my EDD, I have a system variable element called TableContinuation defined as follows: *Element (System Variable): TableContinuation* *System variable format rule* *1. In all contexts.* *Use system variable: Table Continuation* To be valid, my structure requires the TableContinuation element to be inserted in the TableTitle element, as shown here: *Element (Table Title): TableTitle* *General rule: ( | ph | Xref)*, TableContinuation* For several years everything has been working as designed. Now, suddenly, inserting the TableContinuation element causes the Filename (Long) variable to be inserted within the TableTitle element instead of the Table Continuation variable. I have searched high and low but cannot find what is causing this behavior. I notice that inserting the DefaultSystemVariable element in my EDD produces this result: *Use default system variable: Filename (Long)* I see no way of changing this setting (although it has always been configured thus and never been problematic until now). Does anyone have an idea what is causing this behaviour? Thanking you for you time, Andy Lewis ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Table Continuation variable issue in Structured FrameMaker
Hi Framers, Hope you can help me out here. I am using Structured FrameMaker 2019 32-bit version 15.0.0.393 on Windows 10 Enterprise Evaluation edition. In my EDD, I have a system variable element called TableContinuation defined as follows: *Element (System Variable): TableContinuation* *System variable format rule* *1. In all contexts.* *Use system variable: Table Continuation* To be valid, my structure requires the TableContinuation element to be inserted in the TableTitle element, as shown here: *Element (Table Title): TableTitle* *General rule: ( | ph | Xref)*, TableContinuation* For several years everything has been working as designed. Now, suddenly, inserting the TableContinuation element causes the Filename (Long) variable to be inserted within the TableTitle element instead of the Table Continuation variable. I have searched high and low but cannot find what is causing this behavior. I notice that inserting the DefaultSystemVariable element in my EDD produces this result: *Use default system variable: Filename (Long)* I see no way of changing this setting (although it has always been configured thus and never been problematic until now). Does anyone have an idea what is causing this behaviour? Thanking you for you time, Andy Lewis ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
RE: Table Continuation Variable issue
Tammy, If you want to avoid hard coding you could add a second version of the Table Title format that deals with this issue (incorporating your .5 indentation and having its own unique paratag name). Of course you'd have to add that format to any generated list that compiles a list of all the tables. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Continuation Variable issue
The issue is that FrameMaker figures out how to lay out table continuations based on the first page of the table. If the table title is only one line without the continuation variable, then each continuation page will have only one line's worth of table title. If that single line can contain the title plus the continuation variable, everything is OK. But if the continuation variable needs to wrap to a second line, it will become invisible because Frame "knows" from the first page of the table that the title is only one line. Nothing mysterious at work here. BTW, if you were to use the old-fashioned "Sheet x of y" indication of table continuation, you wouldn't have this problem because the table title on each page would be essentially the same length (at least for the first 9 pages while x is a single digit) and would wrap (or not) the same way as the first page. Just be glad that FrameMaker is able to repeat table tiles on continuation pages in the first place. You could be working with Word where the title appears once and only once because it's not really part of the table and has no way of knowing that the table spans pages. -Fred Ridder > From: tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com > To: a...@alphabyte.co.nz; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Table Continuation Variable issue > Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 14:02:45 -0600 > > Hi Alan, > > So, I entered by text for the TableTitle tag, pressed Shift/Enter in the > first instance of the title, and then inserted the Table Continuation tag. > It wraps the title, yes, but in the first instance, it wraps it and > therefore, although the Continuation variable doesn't display, there is an > extra line now between the table title and the table. As you scroll through > the table, then the continued variable is displayed by itself in the second > line. So, I just moved the location of the soft return to before the last > word in the title, and OK, it looks a bit funky in the first occurrence, but > it's doable. > > I appreciate the prompt replies from you and David, but what on earth is > preventing this from wrapping as expected anyway? > > Thanks! > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Owner/Principal > Spectrum Writing, LLC > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan Litchfield > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:53 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Table Continuation Variable issue > > Long time since I had that one. > > IIRC I inserted a discretionary/soft return into the first instance of the > title. When it gets to the repeated title it should break at that point. > > Since writing, David provided the same idea with \n. > > Alan > > On 2/04/15 8:36 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > > FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. > > > > When I addthe "Continued" variableto a table title, I expect thatit > > should wrap the title text ontothe next page because thevariable > > makesthe titletoo longfor one line. It won't do that. It will just > > make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone > > to the nextline, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have > > tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph > > Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem > > for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other > > table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will > > hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle > tags look funky. > > > > I am stymied. w.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Continuation Variable issue
Nope, heading row was created as part of a standing table format that I have in my templates. Good thought tho'!!! Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com From: Tornquist, Patti [mailto:patti.tornqu...@teamquest.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:14 PM To: Tammy Van Boening Cc: Alan Litchfield; Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Re: Table Continuation Variable issue Just had a thought - did you add the heading row after you created the table? Sometimes added headings behave differently than headings that are created with the table tag. You might test it with a short table, just to see. -- Patti Patti Tornquist Product Documentation --- Direct +1 641 357 2710 x 2157 <mailto:patti.tornqu...@teamquest.com> patti.tornqu...@teamquest.com TeamQuest Corporation +1 641 357 2700 <http://www.teamquest.com/> teamquest.com | <http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=984207> LinkedIn | <http://www.teamquest.com/blog> ITSO Blog Specializing in IT Capacity Management Patti Tornquist Product Documentation --- Direct +1 641 357 2710 x 2157 <mailto:patti.tornqu...@teamquest.com> patti.tornqu...@teamquest.com TeamQuest Corporation +1 641 357 2700 <http://www.teamquest.com/> teamquest.com | <http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=984207> LinkedIn | <http://www.teamquest.com/blog> ITSO Blog On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: Hi Alan, So, I entered by text for the TableTitle tag, pressed Shift/Enter in the first instance of the title, and then inserted the Table Continuation tag. It wraps the title, yes, but in the first instance, it wraps it and therefore, although the Continuation variable doesn't display, there is an extra line now between the table title and the table. As you scroll through the table, then the continued variable is displayed by itself in the second line. So, I just moved the location of the soft return to before the last word in the title, and OK, it looks a bit funky in the first occurrence, but it's doable. I appreciate the prompt replies from you and David, but what on earth is preventing this from wrapping as expected anyway? Thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan Litchfield Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:53 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Table Continuation Variable issue Long time since I had that one. IIRC I inserted a discretionary/soft return into the first instance of the title. When it gets to the repeated title it should break at that point. Since writing, David provided the same idea with \n. Alan On 2/04/15 8:36 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. > > When I addthe "Continued" variableto a table title, I expect thatit > should wrap the title text ontothe next page because thevariable > makesthe titletoo longfor one line. It won't do that. It will just > make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone > to the nextline, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have > tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph > Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem > for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other > table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will > hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle tags look funky. > > I am stymied. > > Thanks! > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > > Owner/Principal > > Spectrum Writing, LLC > > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > > TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.c > o.nz > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland, New Zealand 1140 _
RE: Table Continuation Variable issue
OK, my 2008 trick didn't do it this time for whatever reason with this particular title. I had to go up to almost 0.5 to get it to wrap and then of course, we were back to all the non-problematic titles wrapping unnaturally. I am going with the "hard-coded" approach right now of a discretionary soft return before the last word in the title so that when it wraps, there is not just the word "continued" displayed alone on the second line - that looked funky. At least there is a bit of text preceding "Continued" with this approach. Thanks all . . . TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:42 PM To: 'Stuart Rogers'; 'framers' Subject: RE: Table Continuation Variable issue OMG - no way . . .. that was sooo long ago in my aging mind, no wonder I didn't remember it. OK, I also have David's solution, so I shall see which one I prefer. Thanks all - I need a strong Margarita right about now. TVB Tammy Van Boening From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:33 PM To: Tammy Van Boening; 'framers' Subject: Re: Table Continuation Variable issue On 2015-Apr-01 3:36 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. When I add the " Continued" variable to a table title, I expect that it should wrap the title text onto the next page because the variable makes the title too long for one line. It won’t do that. It will just make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone to the next line, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle tags look funky. I am stymied. Thanks! TVB W back in 2008, someone with the intials TVB posted a solution to this problem to the same list :-) Put a small right-indent in the pgf tag of the table title. (I just tried 0.01", and that was enough in my test document.) The result is still an empty line under the title on the first page, but the variable wraps properly thereafter. http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2008-April/011826.html -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Continuation Variable issue
OMG - no way . . .. that was sooo long ago in my aging mind, no wonder I didn't remember it. OK, I also have David's solution, so I shall see which one I prefer. Thanks all - I need a strong Margarita right about now. TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com www.spectrumwritingllc.com 303-840-1755 From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:33 PM To: Tammy Van Boening; 'framers' Subject: Re: Table Continuation Variable issue On 2015-Apr-01 3:36 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. When I add the " Continued" variable to a table title, I expect that it should wrap the title text onto the next page because the variable makes the title too long for one line. It won’t do that. It will just make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone to the next line, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle tags look funky. I am stymied. Thanks! TVB W back in 2008, someone with the intials TVB posted a solution to this problem to the same list :-) Put a small right-indent in the pgf tag of the table title. (I just tried 0.01", and that was enough in my test document.) The result is still an empty line under the title on the first page, but the variable wraps properly thereafter. http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2008-April/011826.html -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table Continuation Variable issue
On 2015-Apr-01 3:36 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: Table Continuation Variable issue FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. When I addthe "Continued" variableto a table title, I expect thatit should wrap the title text ontothe next page because thevariable makesthe titletoo longfor one line. It won’t do that. It will just make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone to the nextline, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle tags look funky. I am stymied. Thanks! TVB W back in 2008, someone with the intials TVB posted a solution to this problem to the same list :-) Put a small right-indent in the pgf tag of the table title. (I just tried 0.01", and that was enough in my test document.) The result is still an empty line under the title on the first page, but the variable wraps properly thereafter. http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2008-April/011826.html -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table Continuation Variable issue
Personally I would go for the new variable option, if the \n, or \\n, works. That way you can use either variable as the situation warrants. On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 3:11 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote: Hi Tammy I think David had it right with the \n. Does that make a difference? Regards Alan On 2/04/15 9:02 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > Hi Alan, > > So, I entered by text for the TableTitle tag, pressed Shift/Enter in the > first instance of the title, and then inserted the Table Continuation tag. > It wraps the title, yes, but in the first instance, it wraps it and > therefore, although the Continuation variable doesn't display, there is an > extra line now between the table title and the table. As you scroll through > the table, then the continued variable is displayed by itself in the second > line. So, I just moved the location of the soft return to before the last > word in the title, and OK, it looks a bit funky in the first occurrence, but > it's doable. > > I appreciate the prompt replies from you and David, but what on earth is > preventing this from wrapping as expected anyway? > > Thanks! > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Owner/Principal > Spectrum Writing, LLC > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan Litchfield > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:53 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Table Continuation Variable issue > > Long time since I had that one. > > IIRC I inserted a discretionary/soft return into the first instance of the > title. When it gets to the repeated title it should break at that point. > > Since writing, David provided the same idea with \n. > > Alan > > On 2/04/15 8:36 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote: >> FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. >> >> When I addthe "Continued" variableto a table title, I expect thatit >> should wrap the title text ontothe next page because thevariable >> makesthe titletoo longfor one line. It won't do that. It will just >> make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone >> to the nextline, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have >> tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph >> Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem >> for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other >> table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will >> hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle > tags look funky. >> >> I am stymied. >> >> Thanks! >> >> TVB >> >> Tammy Van Boening >> >> Owner/Principal >> >> Spectrum Writing, LLC >> >> www.spectrumwritingllc.com >> >> TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. >> >> Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.c >> o.nz >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > -- > Dr Alan Litchfield > AlphaByte > PO Box 1941 > Auckland, New Zealand 1140 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammyvb%40spectrumwritin > gllc.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland, New Zealand 1140 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table Continuation Variable issue
Just had a thought - did you add the heading row after you created the table? Sometimes added headings behave differently than headings that are created with the table tag. You might test it with a short table, just to see. -- Patti *Patti Tornquist* Product Documentation --- Direct +1 641 357 2710 x 2157 patti.tornqu...@teamquest.com *TeamQuest Corporation* +1 641 357 2700 teamquest.com <http://www.teamquest.com/> | LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=984207> | ITSO Blog <http://www.teamquest.com/blog> Specializing in IT Capacity Management *Patti Tornquist* Product Documentation --- Direct +1 641 357 2710 x 2157 patti.tornqu...@teamquest.com *TeamQuest Corporation* +1 641 357 2700 teamquest.com <http://www.teamquest.com/> | LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=984207> | ITSO Blog <http://www.teamquest.com/blog> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Tammy Van Boening < tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > Hi Alan, > > So, I entered by text for the TableTitle tag, pressed Shift/Enter in the > first instance of the title, and then inserted the Table Continuation tag. > It wraps the title, yes, but in the first instance, it wraps it and > therefore, although the Continuation variable doesn't display, there is an > extra line now between the table title and the table. As you scroll through > the table, then the continued variable is displayed by itself in the second > line. So, I just moved the location of the soft return to before the last > word in the title, and OK, it looks a bit funky in the first occurrence, > but > it's doable. > > I appreciate the prompt replies from you and David, but what on earth is > preventing this from wrapping as expected anyway? > > Thanks! > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Owner/Principal > Spectrum Writing, LLC > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan Litchfield > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:53 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Table Continuation Variable issue > > Long time since I had that one. > > IIRC I inserted a discretionary/soft return into the first instance of the > title. When it gets to the repeated title it should break at that point. > > Since writing, David provided the same idea with \n. > > Alan > > On 2/04/15 8:36 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > > FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. > > > > When I addthe "Continued" variableto a table title, I expect thatit > > should wrap the title text ontothe next page because thevariable > > makesthe titletoo longfor one line. It won't do that. It will just > > make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone > > to the nextline, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have > > tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph > > Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem > > for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other > > table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will > > hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these > TableTitle > tags look funky. > > > > I am stymied. > > > > Thanks! > > > > TVB > > > > Tammy Van Boening > > > > Owner/Principal > > > > Spectrum Writing, LLC > > > > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > > > > TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. > > > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.c > > o.nz > > > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > -- > Dr Alan Litchfield > AlphaByte > PO Box 1941 > Auckland, New Zealand 1140 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com. > > Sen
Re: Table Continuation Variable issue
Hi Tammy I think David had it right with the \n. Does that make a difference? Regards Alan On 2/04/15 9:02 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote: Hi Alan, So, I entered by text for the TableTitle tag, pressed Shift/Enter in the first instance of the title, and then inserted the Table Continuation tag. It wraps the title, yes, but in the first instance, it wraps it and therefore, although the Continuation variable doesn't display, there is an extra line now between the table title and the table. As you scroll through the table, then the continued variable is displayed by itself in the second line. So, I just moved the location of the soft return to before the last word in the title, and OK, it looks a bit funky in the first occurrence, but it's doable. I appreciate the prompt replies from you and David, but what on earth is preventing this from wrapping as expected anyway? Thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan Litchfield Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:53 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Table Continuation Variable issue Long time since I had that one. IIRC I inserted a discretionary/soft return into the first instance of the title. When it gets to the repeated title it should break at that point. Since writing, David provided the same idea with \n. Alan On 2/04/15 8:36 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote: FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. When I addthe "Continued" variableto a table title, I expect thatit should wrap the title text ontothe next page because thevariable makesthe titletoo longfor one line. It won't do that. It will just make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone to the nextline, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle tags look funky. I am stymied. Thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.c o.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland, New Zealand 1140 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammyvb%40spectrumwritin gllc.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland, New Zealand 1140 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Continuation Variable issue
Hi Alan, So, I entered by text for the TableTitle tag, pressed Shift/Enter in the first instance of the title, and then inserted the Table Continuation tag. It wraps the title, yes, but in the first instance, it wraps it and therefore, although the Continuation variable doesn't display, there is an extra line now between the table title and the table. As you scroll through the table, then the continued variable is displayed by itself in the second line. So, I just moved the location of the soft return to before the last word in the title, and OK, it looks a bit funky in the first occurrence, but it's doable. I appreciate the prompt replies from you and David, but what on earth is preventing this from wrapping as expected anyway? Thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan Litchfield Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:53 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Table Continuation Variable issue Long time since I had that one. IIRC I inserted a discretionary/soft return into the first instance of the title. When it gets to the repeated title it should break at that point. Since writing, David provided the same idea with \n. Alan On 2/04/15 8:36 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. > > When I addthe "Continued" variableto a table title, I expect thatit > should wrap the title text ontothe next page because thevariable > makesthe titletoo longfor one line. It won't do that. It will just > make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone > to the nextline, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have > tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph > Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem > for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other > table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will > hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle tags look funky. > > I am stymied. > > Thanks! > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > > Owner/Principal > > Spectrum Writing, LLC > > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > > TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.c > o.nz > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland, New Zealand 1140 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammyvb%40spectrumwritin gllc.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table Continuation Variable issue
Long time since I had that one. IIRC I inserted a discretionary/soft return into the first instance of the title. When it gets to the repeated title it should break at that point. Since writing, David provided the same idea with \n. Alan On 2/04/15 8:36 am, Tammy Van Boening wrote: FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. When I addthe "Continued" variableto a table title, I expect thatit should wrap the title text ontothe next page because thevariable makesthe titletoo longfor one line. It won’t do that. It will just make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone to the nextline, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle tags look funky. I am stymied. Thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland, New Zealand 1140 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table Continuation Variable issue
Tammy,Don't know if this will work, or not, but have you tried placing a return (\n) between the title and the "Continued" variable?You might need two backslashes (\\n).Example: Table 1 This and That\\n(variable)Or create a second variable, Table Continued Long, and include the \\n there.Worth a try. YMMV. On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 2:37 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: Table Continuation Variable issueFM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. When I add the " Continued" variable to a table title, I expect that it should wrap the title text onto the next page because the variable makes the title too long for one line. It won’t do that. It will just make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone to the next line, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle tags look funky.I am stymied.Thanks!TVBTammy Van BoeningOwner/PrincipalSpectrum Writing, LLCwww.spectrumwritingllc.comTammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Table Continuation Variable issue
FM 10, all patched, Win7, x64. When I add the " Continued" variable to a table title, I expect that it should wrap the title text onto the next page because the variable makes the title too long for one line. It won't do that. It will just make one line of text and then cut anything off that would have gone to the next line, so the continuation variable isn't displayed. I have tried mucking around with the Right indent setting in the Paragraph Designer for the TableTitle tag, but although this solves the problem for the one nuisance table title, it artificially forces all the other table titles to wrap and become a two-line title, when one line will hold the entire tag, including the Continued variable, so these TableTitle tags look funky. I am stymied. Thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.