RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-11 Thread Joe Malin
--Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Heron Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:00 AM To: framers Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity I am on Windows XP Professional. The instructions you list ("Click Start, click Shut Down, and t

Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-11 Thread Joe Malin
--Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Phil Heron Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:00 AM To: framers Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity I am on Windows XP Professi

Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:11 -0500 10/3/06, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) wrote: >Personally, I find the whole idea of clicking "Start" to shutdown somewhat >counter-intuitive, and could somebody tell me why I have to use the >"three-finger salute" to get my login screen in XP Pro? Once I power up, >what else could I possi

OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Paul Findon
On 10 Mar 2006, at 17:15, Wayne Brissette wrote: > Those directions are for Windows XP Professional. If I follow them on > my work computer, they are 100% correct. Obviously there are multiple > issues here. First, the wrong help files with the wrong OS, but we can > also lay blame on MS for ha

Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Phil Heron
rs-bounces+phil.heron=coda@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) Sent: 10 March 2006 17:11 To: Framers List Cc: Free Framers List Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity Personally, I find the whole idea of clicking "Start" to shutdown somewhat counter-

Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Phil Heron
heron=coda@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+phil.heron=coda.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Emory Sent: 10 March 2006 16:56 To: Framers List Cc: Free Framers List Subject: OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity I was helping a friend who'd just acquired her first

OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Anne Robotti
> Sure makes writing installation procedures fun. No > matter *what* you do, some users will think you're > a fool. :-( Unless you want to do something *totally* crazy & out there, like stabilize your software, perform adequate testing, document the actual interface and distribute it to the user

Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)
ounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hogarth Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 12:00 PM To: Framers List Cc: Free Framers List Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity Versionitis strikes again! A rigorous (and repeated) application of QA is the only known pallative -

Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Kristina McCook
her E-Machines POS. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+convextech=alltel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+convextech=alltel.net at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hogarth Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 12:00 PM To: Framers List Cc: Free Framers List Subje

Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Mike Feimster
=acstechnologies.com at lists.frameusers.c om] On Behalf Of Phil Heron Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 12:00 PM To: framers Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity I am on Windows XP Professional. The instructions you list ("Click Start, click Shut Down, and then in the drop-down list click

Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Mike Wickham
>I am on Windows XP Professional. >The instructions you list ("Click Start, click Shut Down, and then in >the drop-down list click Shut Down") are perfectly correct for my >computer. That is exactly what I see. I'm on XP Pro, too, and I see the Start> Turn off computer> and the three buttons, in

Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Doug
The Advanced tab also explains why you might want to use the CTRL+ALT+DEL combo, BTW... --Doug > There's a setting on the Advanced tab of the User Accounts dialog to specify > whether users have to use Ctrl+Alt+Delete to log on. > >> Personally, I find the whole idea of clicking "Start" to shutdo

Re: OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:25:29 -0500, "Anne Robotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sure makes writing installation procedures fun. No >> matter *what* you do, some users will think you're >> a fool. :-( > >Unless you want to do something *totally* crazy & out there, like >stabilize your software,

OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:25:29 -0500, "Anne Robotti" wrote: >> Sure makes writing installation procedures fun. No >> matter *what* you do, some users will think you're >> a fool. :-( > >Unless you want to do something *totally* crazy & out there, like >stabilize your software, perform adequate t

RE: OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Anne Robotti
> Sure makes writing installation procedures fun. No > matter *what* you do, some users will think you're > a fool. :-( Unless you want to do something *totally* crazy & out there, like stabilize your software, perform adequate testing, document the actual interface and distribute it to the user

Re: OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:55:57 -0800 (PST), Daniel Emory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >“Click Start, click Shut Down, and then in the >drop-down list click Shut Down” > >The only part of that instruction which is correct is >“Click Start.” It's correct for my Win 2000 Pro system... I wonder if it is

OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:55:57 -0800 (PST), Daniel Emory wrote: >?Click Start, click Shut Down, and then in the >drop-down list click Shut Down? > >The only part of that instruction which is correct is >?Click Start.? It's correct for my Win 2000 Pro system... I wonder if it is correct for XP mac

Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Grant Hogarth
Versionitis strikes again! A rigorous (and repeated) application of QA is the only known pallative -- there is no cure. Grant -Original Message- From: Daniel Emory Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:56 AM To: Framers List Cc: Free Framers List Subject: OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:11 -0500 10/3/06, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) wrote: >Personally, I find the whole idea of clicking "Start" to shutdown somewhat >counter-intuitive, and could somebody tell me why I have to use the >"three-finger salute" to get my login screen in XP Pro? Once I power up, >what else could I possi

Re: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Mike Wickham
I am on Windows XP Professional. The instructions you list ("Click Start, click Shut Down, and then in the drop-down list click Shut Down") are perfectly correct for my computer. That is exactly what I see. I'm on XP Pro, too, and I see the Start> Turn off computer> and the three buttons, in

RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread John Posada
> Personally, I find the whole idea of clicking "Start" to shutdown > somewhat > counter-intuitive, and could somebody tell me why I have to use the My mother (73), after having a computer for six years, still asks me about this one. What do she know?...she's not in the IT biz. John Posada Senior

Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread John Posada
> Personally, I find the whole idea of clicking "Start" to shutdown > somewhat > counter-intuitive, and could somebody tell me why I have to use the My mother (73), after having a computer for six years, still asks me about this one. What do she know?...she's not in the IT biz. John Posada Senior

Re: OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Paul Findon
On 10 Mar 2006, at 17:15, Wayne Brissette wrote: Those directions are for Windows XP Professional. If I follow them on my work computer, they are 100% correct. Obviously there are multiple issues here. First, the wrong help files with the wrong OS, but we can also lay blame on MS for have way

Re: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Doug
The Advanced tab also explains why you might want to use the CTRL+ALT+DEL combo, BTW... --Doug > There's a setting on the Advanced tab of the User Accounts dialog to specify > whether users have to use Ctrl+Alt+Delete to log on. > >> Personally, I find the whole idea of clicking "Start" to shutdo

RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Phil Heron
lton) Sent: 10 March 2006 17:11 To: Framers List Cc: Free Framers List Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity Personally, I find the whole idea of clicking "Start" to shutdown somewhat counter-intuitive, and could somebody tell me why I have to use the "three-finger salute&q

RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Kristina McCook
her E-Machines POS. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grant Hogarth Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 12:00 PM To: Framers List Cc: Free Framers List Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity Versionitis strikes again! A rigorous (and re

RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)
arch 10, 2006 12:00 PM To: Framers List Cc: Free Framers List Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity Versionitis strikes again! A rigorous (and repeated) application of QA is the only known pallative -- there is no cure. Grant -Original Message- From: Daniel Emory Sent: Friday,

RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Phil Heron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am on Windows XP Professional. > The instructions you list ("Click Start, click Shut > Down, and then in > the drop-down list click Shut Down") are perfectly > correct for my > computer. That is exactly what I see. === Th

Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Phil Heron wrote: > I am on Windows XP Professional. > The instructions you list ("Click Start, click Shut > Down, and then in > the drop-down list click Shut Down") are perfectly > correct for my > computer. That is exactly what I see. === The e-Machine had Win

RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Mike Feimster
: framers Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity I am on Windows XP Professional. The instructions you list ("Click Start, click Shut Down, and then in the drop-down list click Shut Down") are perfectly correct for my computer. That is exactly what I see. ?? Phil Heron ---

RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Grant Hogarth
Versionitis strikes again! A rigorous (and repeated) application of QA is the only known pallative -- there is no cure. Grant -Original Message- From: Daniel Emory Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:56 AM To: Framers List Cc: Free Framers List Subject: OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Phil Heron
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Emory Sent: 10 March 2006 16:56 To: Framers List Cc: Free Framers List Subject: OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity I was helping a friend who'd just acquired her first computer, an E-Machine with Windows XP. I was demonstrating how to get help, and showe

OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Daniel Emory
I was helping a friend who’d just acquired her first computer, an E-Machine with Windows XP. I was demonstrating how to get help, and showed how she could type in a search phrase and get a list of all the help topics containing that phrase. So, to demonstrate how to properly shut down the computer

OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

2006-03-10 Thread Daniel Emory
I was helping a friend who?d just acquired her first computer, an E-Machine with Windows XP. I was demonstrating how to get help, and showed how she could type in a search phrase and get a list of all the help topics containing that phrase. So, to demonstrate how to properly shut down the computer