[Framework-Team] Re: Is this thing on?

2007-11-20 Thread Daniel Nouri
whit wrote: > hey, if the werewolf wants to be on the framework team I say more the > merrier ;) +1 for having Martijn Faassen in the framework team. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo

[Framework-Team] Re: r15422 - in plone.transforms/trunk/plone/transforms: . interfaces tests

2007-06-21 Thread Daniel Nouri
Hi Hanno! hannosch wrote: > Added: plone.transforms/trunk/plone/transforms/interfaces/transform.py > == > --- (empty file) > +++ plone.transforms/trunk/plone/transforms/interfaces/transform.py Wed Jun > 20 21:18:48 2007

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-24 Thread Daniel Nouri
Alexander Limi wrote: > > > On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 05:00:45 -0700, Daniel Nouri wrote: > >> Do you want to tell (core) add-on developers to not make use of the >> niceties >> of plone.app.controlpanel because their thing is too complex? > > Uhm, if people can&#

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-23 Thread Daniel Nouri
Hi! Alexander Limi wrote: > - Archetypes > - After we removed JS from checkboxes, they no longer "stick" > (really!). Might have to put that back, even though it sucks > - There's something strange going on with enabling comments, it > only works on the init

[Framework-Team] Re: ploneenv - Or how using workingenv for a common Zope2 project might look like ;-)

2007-02-04 Thread Daniel Nouri
Martin Aspeli wrote: > > > Daniel Nouri wrote: > >>> This is probably a place where the buildout.cfg approach makes sense - >>> we would be able to edit this file so that at any point in time it >>> pointed at the right eggs to construct a Plone rele

[Framework-Team] Re: ploneenv - Or how using workingenv for a common Zope2 project might look like ;-)

2007-02-04 Thread Daniel Nouri
Martin Aspeli wrote: > Ian Bicking wrote: >> If you use the easy_install script in the workingenv bin/, then you >> don't have to activate the environment. Very similar to buildout, >> workingenv scripts contain their path/environment. > > Right, thanks for pointing that out. I should also menti

[Framework-Team] Re: ploneenv - Or how using workingenv for a common Zope2 project might look like ;-)

2007-02-04 Thread Daniel Nouri
Hanno Schlichting wrote: > > Daniel Nouri wrote: >> Hanno Schlichting wrote: >>> Nope. Windows support for zopectl is a lot harder then just some path >>> fiddling. But the real issue with it is not really something that is an >>> argument for ploneout, I j

[Framework-Team] Re: ploneenv - Or how using workingenv for a common Zope2 project might look like ;-)

2007-02-04 Thread Daniel Nouri
Hanno Schlichting wrote: > Nope. Windows support for zopectl is a lot harder then just some path > fiddling. But the real issue with it is not really something that is an > argument for ploneout, I just took the time to implement it in it, it > could be a separate package as well. The basic problem

[Framework-Team] Re: ploneenv - Or how using workingenv for a common Zope2 project might look like ;-)

2007-02-04 Thread Daniel Nouri
Martin Aspeli wrote: > Btw, can we move at least the Plone egg to svn.plone.org? I suggest > svn.plone.org/svn/dist/Plone or something similar, since as you pointed > out, /Plone may be a little confusing. If this really is to become a > "meta-egg" with just dependencies, then I think something lik

[Framework-Team] Re: ploneenv - Or how using workingenv for a common Zope2 project might look like ;-)

2007-02-03 Thread Daniel Nouri
I'm obviously for ploneenv/workingenv. I wouldn't have developed ploneenv otherwise. So here is my pro-ploneenv reactions. Martin Aspeli wrote: > First of all, I think this is great. :) The important thing here is that > people can use what they feel comfortable with - at the end of the day, > a

[Framework-Team] ploneenv - Or how using workingenv for a common Zope2 project might look like ;-)

2007-02-03 Thread Daniel Nouri
ploneenv is a one module Python script that builds heavily on workingenv and setuptools. What it does: - It creates a Zope instance for you. You always provide the ``mkzopeinstance.py`` script that you want to use as an argument. E.g.:: ploneenv ~/myzopeinstance \ --

[Framework-Team] Re: Plone 3.0 product deployment

2007-02-03 Thread Daniel Nouri
Daniel Nouri wrote: > Martin Aspeli wrote: >> It is very interesting. What worries me a bit is how we eggify the >> existing products. Perhaps we need a script to do that. It would almost >> certainly introduce breakage of a lot of svn:externals, since the svn >> lay

[Framework-Team] Re: Plone 3.0 product deployment

2007-02-03 Thread Daniel Nouri
Martin Aspeli wrote: > It is very interesting. What worries me a bit is how we eggify the > existing products. Perhaps we need a script to do that. It would almost > certainly introduce breakage of a lot of svn:externals, since the svn > layout is different. We'd also depend on Zope (e.g. PAS) and

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP 177 - Content indexing

2006-12-11 Thread Daniel Nouri
Kapil Thangavelu wrote: > On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:55:07 -0500, Rocky Burt > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Mon, 2006-11-12 at 13:43 +, Martin Aspeli wrote: >>> Do people have opinions on this: >>> >>> http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/177 >>> >>> It seems to be a very trivial patch to

[Framework-Team] Re: install-plone.py

2006-10-22 Thread Daniel Nouri
I forgot another obvious problem: - Should not depend on the user to have workingenv.py installed. The script should download it if it's not there. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo

[Framework-Team] install-plone.py

2006-10-22 Thread Daniel Nouri
Hello there! I created a script install-plone.py that should help at least get an idea of how the deployment of Plone 3.0 should look like. Note that this is work in progress. I hope that people will help me with figuring out the problems with this, and help me improve it. You can download it f

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Error starting 3.0 bundle

2006-10-20 Thread Daniel Nouri
whit wrote: >> You could call it temporary in that Zope will hopefully get better at >> development eggs and therefore render a weaved-together bundle like this >> obsolete (instead, you'd have a bundle with eggs and then you'd >> easy_install each one). To be honest, I find the bundle fairly >

[Framework-Team] Re: Error starting 3.0 bundle

2006-10-20 Thread Daniel Nouri
Martin Aspeli wrote: > whit wrote: > >> my opinion is a little elbow grease to get this worked out now rather >> than later would go a long way. eggs are bit of pain, but we don't >> need to wait for any zope gods to descend from on high to make things >> better. > > I agree in principle, I just

[Framework-Team] Re: Content rules engine bundle

2006-10-20 Thread Daniel Nouri
Offtopic: Martin Aspeli wrote: > - there needs to be a tiny bit of integration in CMFPlone when we > merge. This will probably just be an ZCML statement in > CMFPlone/configure.zcml to remove the need for the slug, and then a link > somewhere in the Plone UI to @@manage-content-rules, which is t

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Error starting 3.0 bundle

2006-10-20 Thread Daniel Nouri
whit wrote: > > ugh... could we devote a little time to packaging love here? maybe at > the conference? This is tipping my suckometer. > > None of this is too fancy, but I think we've exceeded the utility of our > bundle system and should fix our dev deploy story. > > some notes in this arena:

[Framework-Team] Re: [AJAX] - Bling vs. KSS round 1

2006-09-21 Thread Daniel Nouri
Hi! Martin Aspeli wrote: > Hi Daniel > >> From Saturday to Tuesday, I attended 4 days of presentation, discussion >> and hands-on experience with KSS. First of all, thanks to Godefroid for >> hosting a very nice sprint and to the whole team for the good time I had! >> >> I want to share some ex

[Framework-Team] Re: [AJAX] - Bling vs. KSS round 1

2006-09-21 Thread Daniel Nouri
Martin Aspeli wrote: Alec Mitchell wrote: Great analysis. I'm looking forward to my beer. Wow, someone made it. :) For me the big difference between these approaches is that one requires changing many of the templates in Plone so that the rendered results includes a bunch of fancy inline j

[Framework-Team] Re: Now what do we do?

2006-08-30 Thread Daniel Nouri
Martin Aspeli wrote: > ... > PLIP 179 - Improved commenting infrastructure > > There are three plips (120, 124 and 149) which have a CMFPlone but no > bundle so I'm ignoring those. > > > I think the markup (149) support basically works and is fairly low-risk, > but it's also primaril

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel Nouri
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Daniel Nouri wrote: Do you agree that we put the documentation in the top-level directory? I.e. INSTALL.txt, README.txt etc. They shouldn't really go *inside* the package I hear from Ian. Would also give us less duplication between the plone_app and the plone

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel Nouri
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Daniel Nouri said: Do you agree that we put the documentation in the top-level directory? I.e. INSTALL.txt, README.txt etc. They shouldn't really go *inside* the package I hear from Ian. Would also give us less duplication between the plone_app an

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel Nouri
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. As I'm lazy, I wrote a new template for plone.app projects now as well. So in step 3 you can also do: paster create -t plone_app which will ask you the same question as the plone_core template but adds a question for the second namespace, which defaults to app :)

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel Nouri
Martin Aspeli wrote: Daniel Nouri wrote: whit wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi Hanno, I'm happy to write the plone / plone.app announcement, and I can write the bit about guidelines for when to use them. However, I'm not too sure how we do the svn organisation. - are we re

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Daniel Nouri
whit wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi Hanno, I'm happy to write the plone / plone.app announcement, and I can write the bit about guidelines for when to use them. However, I'm not too sure how we do the svn organisation. - are we recommending people use ZopeSkel? cautious but enthusiastic no

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Daniel Nouri
Alexander Limi wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:29:41 -0700, Daniel Nouri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -1 for plone / plone.cms as it is confusing ("heck, isn't all of Plone for CMS 'functionality'?") It might not be in the future. An example would be a dedicated

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Daniel Nouri
Alexander Limi wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:29:41 -0700, Daniel Nouri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -1 for plone / plone.cms as it is confusing ("heck, isn't all of Plone for CMS 'functionality'?") It might not be in the future. An example would be a dedicated

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-26 Thread Daniel Nouri
Lo. Thanks for bringing this up... +1 for plone / plone.app -1 for cubed / plone, because 'plone' is a nice brand. -1 for plone / plone.cms as it is confusing ("heck, isn't all of Plone for CMS 'functionality'?") Daniel ___ Framework-Team mailing li

[Framework-Team] Re: Organisation of Plone components in Collective and Plone svn

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel Nouri
Rocky Burt wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-05 at 19:20 -0700, Rob Miller wrote: > >>On May 1, 2006, at 4:19 PM, Rocky Burt wrote: >> >> >>>On Tue, 2006-02-05 at 01:08 +0200, Hanno Schlichting wrote: >>> To summarize some of the discussion we had on IRC just now, here is our current idea, fo