Re: [Frameworks] question regarding color preservation of early animation films

2015-02-01 Thread C Keefer
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Re: [Frameworks] question regarding color preservation of early animation films

2015-02-01 Thread Laura Trager
Thanks so much, everyone, very helpful! 2015-02-01 3:23 GMT-05:00 Ingo Petzke : > That's perhaps already been answered but OPUS 1 was restored by Filmmuseum > Munich and they worked for years on it so it should be a serious result. If > I remember correctly they based their efforts on both a fe

Re: [Frameworks] question regarding color preservation of early animation films

2015-02-01 Thread Ingo Petzke
That's perhaps already been answered but OPUS 1 was restored by Filmmuseum Munich and they worked for years on it so it should be a serious result. If I remember correctly they based their efforts on both a few feet of coloured film in a forgotten tin and on a colouring chart. Stockholm and Mosc

Re: [Frameworks] question regarding color preservation of early animation films

2015-01-31 Thread Michael Betancourt
They're all on this DVD set, in color and very legible transfers; region 0 disk: http://www.edition-filmmuseum.com/product_info.php/info/p70_Berlin--die-Sinfonie-der-Gro-stadt---Melodie-der-Welt.html Michael Betancourt Savannah, GA USA michaelbetancourt.com twitter.com/cinegraphic | vimeo.com/c

Re: [Frameworks] question regarding color preservation of early animation films

2015-01-31 Thread Pip Chodorov
I don't know where the hand painted originals are or if any exist at all. There must be an internegative at the Eye Institute (Amsterdam) because I think the 16mm print originally in circulation in Paris came from the Dutch Filmmuseum in the 1980s. New prints come from CVM and were supervised b

Re: [Frameworks] question regarding color preservation of early animation films

2015-01-31 Thread mrktosc
Le Giornate del Cinema Muto festival showed restored 35mm prints of the Ruttmann shorts in 2000, most of which were from the Munich Stadtmuseum and/or Netherlands Filmmuseum (now Eye). Some were tinted/toned, others were directly colored, and the 35mm preservations were done on color stock to r

Re: [Frameworks] question regarding color preservation of early animation films

2015-01-31 Thread Laura Trager
Thank you, Pip, for the quick response! No, I haven't seen or heard of the existence of Ruttmann's hand-painted prints... Do you know where they are archived or where/how I might have a chance to see them? Also, aside from the bleed, can you tell me how similar these digital versions are to the o

Re: [Frameworks] question regarding color preservation of early animation films

2015-01-31 Thread Pip Chodorov
Some original hand-painted prints of Opus 1 were preserved, and 16mm prints from these are still in circulation today. When you see the 16mm prints projected you can see the hand-painted color bleed beyond the edges of the white shapes (unlike in those youtube videos). Later Moritz himself provi

[Frameworks] question regarding color preservation of early animation films

2015-01-31 Thread Laura Trager
Hello Frameworkers, I have a question regarding color preservation of Walter Ruttmann's "Opus" films, and was hoping you might be able to point me in the right direction or share your insights with me. I am currently researching the use of color (or lack thereof) in the early "absolute" animations