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2013-11-25 Thread Bernard Roddy
I've been thinking about films that express an impatience with achievement.  An initial form of this would be the kind of filmmaker who spoofs the documentary form.  But let's put experimentation in the hot seat.  If we disallow those cases in which it really is just an artist suffering from

Re: [Frameworks] editing 16mm

2013-11-25 Thread Fred Camper
Quoting Kevin Obsatz ke...@videohaiku.com: My goal isn't a perfectly clean, seamless print, but I'm wondering if there are any tips I should follow. I heard a rumor once that Brakhage would include frames of black leader in between shots to make splices less visible - but that could be

Re: [Frameworks] editing 16mm

2013-11-25 Thread Peter Mudie
There are a number of filmmakers who have made the splice, and the quality of the cut, extremely important - Peter Gidal is (arguably) the most important of these. If you think about it, it is an attribute of shaping time which can be used - you may want to. Stan's 'wink' is a wonderfully

Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

2013-11-25 Thread William Wees, Dr.
Arthur Lipsett’s films are composed almost entirely of “found sound.” --Bill Wees From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Albert Alcoz Sent: November 24, 2013 3:56 PM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films Hi,

Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

2013-11-25 Thread Al Matthews
Max de Haas, Jean Gremillon, Enrico Fulchignoni, and Jean Rouch are listed with re: the Groupe de Recherche de Musique Concrète esp '52-'56 cf Section 2.4.4 in http://music.arts.uci.edu/dobrian/CMC2009/OS12.3.Gayou.pdf Al Matthews - http://fatmilktv.com Atlanta, GA, US +1 337 214 4688 On Mon,

Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

2013-11-25 Thread Mark Toscano
I think what Albert's asking for are films that utilize a more or less intact found soundtrack, rather than a collaged soundtrack that includes found sound segments. Lipsett, Pat O'Neill, and plenty of other artists have made some exciting use of collaged found elements, but I'd also love to

[Frameworks] Tonight 11/25 10PM: Lizzie Borden's WORKING GIRLS at Spectacle (Final screening!)

2013-11-25 Thread Katie Bradshaw
Greetings! Tonight (Mon. 11/25) is the final screening of* Lizzie Borden's WORKING GIRLS (1986)* at Spectacle (124 S. 3rd St., Brooklyn). The screening starts at 10 PM and is $5. We have been very excited to present this film a few times this month, and hope you are able to make it tonight!

Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

2013-11-25 Thread Tara Nelson
SHELLY WINTERS by Luther Price (from an interview in Big Red Shiny) *TN* *In your film SHELLY WINTERS, there is no image at all, just white leader and a soundtrack We hear the voices of both victims and perpetrators of domestic violence, telling their stories, but there is no image.* *LP*

Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

2013-11-25 Thread Mark Toscano
Tara's suggestion reminded me of a piece that Andrew Lampert has shown, I believe called Head/Tail, which is literally a found soundtrack - it's a 35mm track negative for a porno trailer, projected in Cinemascope so you get an empty frame with a salacious narration. mark t On Nov 25, 2013,

Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

2013-11-25 Thread Albert Alcoz
Yes Mark, you are right, I was asking for films that use intact found soundtracks to produce the entire film, instead of using collaged soundtracks from different found sources. They could be labeled as Perfect found soundtracks, just as those Perfect Films by Ken Jacobs or Hollis Frampton.

[Frameworks] the Frampton film...

2013-11-25 Thread Steve Polta
...to which Tom Whiteside refers is *Ordinary Matter (Hapax Legomena V)*. The soundtrack indeed consists of a booming male voice reciting a Chinese language syllabary and is also double-system sound (i.e. sound on tape; film is projected at 16/18fps btw). I believe that this soundtrack was

Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

2013-11-25 Thread Chuck Kleinhans
On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Albert Alcoz wrote: Yes Mark, you are right, I was asking for films that use intact found soundtracks to produce the entire film, instead of using collaged soundtracks from different found sources. Wasn't the soundtrack for Rubin's Christmas in July just having a

Re: [Frameworks] impatience with achievement

2013-11-25 Thread David Tetzlaff
It's a pretty obvious example, but (nostalgia) is [among other things] an auto-critque of Frampton's work in still photography. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

Re: [Frameworks] the Frampton film...

2013-11-25 Thread Tom Whiteside
Thanks for the info, Steve. Interesting that it was made rather than found. To be truly found, must it have previously been lost? (and this is a digression, as I fully understand the request made in the original post.) My memory of Ordinary Matter is that the soundtrack plays like a found

Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 frames blown up to photo prints!

2013-11-25 Thread Glenn Brady
I've done this with Super 8 reversal film by cutting out the frames I wanted to print (a strip of six inches or so) and scanning the strip in my Minolta Dimage Scan Dual III (intended for 35mm transparencies and 35mm negative strips). As you suggest, you'd need to have access to telecine

Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

2013-11-25 Thread William Wees, Dr.
How about Ken Jacobs’ “Urban Peasants” with two tape recorded lessons in Yiddish on the sound track? --Bill Wees From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Albert Alcoz Sent: November 24, 2013 3:56 PM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks]

Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

2013-11-25 Thread Steve Polta
Tom Whiteside's description of his own *Home Safe Badminton* actually reminds me of a very early Luis Recoder piece, the title of which I do not recall, which paired an un-edited and untreated sound-off found film on bomb detection (scanning the underside of parked cars with a mirror on a long

Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

2013-11-25 Thread Patrick Friel
GLOBE is great, imo. On 11/25/13 7:05 PM, Fred Camper f...@fredcamper.com wrote: Quoting Albert Alcoz albertalc...@yahoo.es: Hi, Institutional Qualityby George Landow was created from a found soundtrack, in this case a tape recorder about an instructional test. Does anyone know

Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

2013-11-25 Thread William Wees, Dr.
Yes, that's a good one too. I was going to mention it but couldn't remember the title. --Bill Wees There is this one by Ken Jacobs: GLOBE (1971, 22 mins, 16mm, color, sound on cassette) (Previously titled: EXCERPT FROM THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION) “Flat image (of snowbound suburban housing

Re: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films

2013-11-25 Thread David Baker
I will cite Ken's anamorphic astonishment KRYPTON IS DOOMED (2005) http://www.eai.org/title.htm?id=10759 also see Mary Helena Clark's most amazing AND THE SUN FLOWERS http://vimeo.com/42048057 (Here found sound starts at 2:04 approximately.) DB On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:27 PM, William Wees,