Re: [Frameworks] Fuse holder for ST928 Steenbeck
http://www.steenbeck.com/ The Steenbeck company in the Netherlands cheers els On 23 Apr 2014, at 01:59, Roger Wilson wrote: Hi folks, I'm searching for a part for a friends Steenbeck and I am hoping someone here may have a lead. I'm looking for 3 fuse holders for a ST928 Steenbeck. I have attached a couple photos of the holder. Any leads is much appreciated! Thanks folks! Roger D. Wilson Film Scientist 613 324 - 7504 rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca http://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. 20140422_194135.jpg20140422_194142.jpg20140422_194158.jpg___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Fuse holder for ST928 Steenbeck
Any panel-mount fuse holder that will hold the appropriate fuse will work. There’s nothing special about any of them. On Apr 23, 2014, at 1:49 AM, Els van Riel m...@elsvanriel.be wrote: http://www.steenbeck.com/ The Steenbeck company in the Netherlands cheers els On 23 Apr 2014, at 01:59, Roger Wilson wrote: Hi folks, I'm searching for a part for a friends Steenbeck and I am hoping someone here may have a lead. I'm looking for 3 fuse holders for a ST928 Steenbeck. I have attached a couple photos of the holder. Any leads is much appreciated! Thanks folks! Roger D. Wilson Film Scientist 613 324 - 7504 rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca http://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. 20140422_194135.jpg20140422_194142.jpg20140422_194158.jpg___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Jeff Kreines Kinetta j...@kinetta.com kinetta.com kinettaarchival.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Rouzbeh Rashidi's feature films online
15 of Rouzbeh Rashidi's experimental no-budget feature films (2008 - 2013) can be watched online for free: https://www.youtube.com/user/RouzbehRashidi/videos ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] 16mm projector in Belfast
Hello, I'm flying into Belfast next week to look at some archive - does anyone know of a 16mm projector I could use for an afternoon to view it? thanks Leah ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Fuse holder for ST928 Steenbeck
The original fuse holder is made by Schurter, and what you show here is just the carriage. The contacts on the part that is in the machine are bad, which is why the contacts on the carriage are failing. You have to replace the entire fuse holder assembly, not just the carriage. My inclination is just to put a piece of sheet metal over the hole and install a modern panel mount fuse holder that takes a 5/8 round hole. It should be less than an hour for a competent technician. This would be much easier than trying to locate a US source for one that is the same physical shape. It is POSSIBLE that this is the same form factor as the model 348070/ 348007 pair from Electronic Plus, as seen here: http://www.electronicplus.com/content/ProductPage.asp?maincat=fussubcat=fho And that might work if your goal is to avoid doing any sheet metal work. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 16mm projector in Belfast
PLEASE don't run archive material through a projector. Try calling the guys at Yellow Moon and ask if they know someone in town with a flatbed you could rent for an afternoon. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Fuse holder for ST928 Steenbeck
Thanks folks! I'm hoping to just get lucky and find the holders from an old table somewhere, everything works fine on the table its just a couple of the fuse holders got broken during a move. I will try Steenbeck but I've contacted them in the past and I find they are not very helpful with older parts. Thanks again! Roger Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:19:41 -0400 From: klu...@panix.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fuse holder for ST928 Steenbeck The original fuse holder is made by Schurter, and what you show here is just the carriage. The contacts on the part that is in the machine are bad, which is why the contacts on the carriage are failing. You have to replace the entire fuse holder assembly, not just the carriage. My inclination is just to put a piece of sheet metal over the hole and install a modern panel mount fuse holder that takes a 5/8 round hole. It should be less than an hour for a competent technician. This would be much easier than trying to locate a US source for one that is the same physical shape. It is POSSIBLE that this is the same form factor as the model 348070/ 348007 pair from Electronic Plus, as seen here: http://www.electronicplus.com/content/ProductPage.asp?maincat=fussubcat=fho And that might work if your goal is to avoid doing any sheet metal work. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com Hand to Mouth CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Hey Sarah, Quick thoughts: Grizzly man! Turin horse... Cave of Forgotten Dreams - scene at the very end with albino reptilians. Gates of Heaven (on a pet cemetery) Looking forward to that list myself, Sonya On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM, sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.iewrote: Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com *Hand to Mouth* CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
La bête lumineuse by Pierre Perrault Bresson's Au hasard Balthazar Rat Life and Diet in North America by Joyce Wieland On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:05 PM, sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.ie wrote: Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com * Hand to Mouth* CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Hi Sarah! For some short experimental stuff- + Aaron Zeghers, Living on the Edge-- https://vimeo.com/51253890 + Corinne Teed is an intermedia artist, mostly does print work but also some video stuff. All involving animals usually. Check out Animal Chatz, and Relationality- https://vimeo.com/user22601695/videos + Jim Trainor, The Bats (and if you like that, then check out a few of his other animal animations) + Jo Dery, Peeks Cheers! Kelly ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
An early documentary by Peter Friedman, I Talk to Animals. It is wonderful, available from Strange Attractions. Tom Whiteside Durham Cinematheque From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of sarah browne Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.infohttp://www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.comhttp://www.kennedybrowne.com Hand to Mouth CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Dream of the Wild Horses / Le songe des chevaux sauvages (1960), Denys Colomb Daunant Rat Life and Diet in North America (1968), Joyce Wieland On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Sonya Mladenova sonya.mladen...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Sarah, Quick thoughts: Grizzly man! Turin horse... Cave of Forgotten Dreams - scene at the very end with albino reptilians. Gates of Heaven (on a pet cemetery) Looking forward to that list myself, Sonya On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM, sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.ie wrote: Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com Hand to Mouth CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Crin Blanc, by Albert Lamorisse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTRML3X0lZ4 2014-04-23 17:28 GMT+02:00 Tom Whiteside tom.whites...@duke.edu: An early documentary by Peter Friedman, “I Talk to Animals.” It is wonderful, available from Strange Attractions. Tom Whiteside Durham Cinematheque *From:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] *On Behalf Of *sarah browne *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM *To:* frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com *Subject:* [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than *Babe*. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com * Hand to Mouth* CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Elena Duque Viña Telf: (+34) 605431072 elenadu...@gmail.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS I AM LIKE by Bill Viola, 89 mins, 1986 These three Cecelia Condit titles: WHY NOT A SPARROW, 13 mins, 2003 ALL ABOUT A GIRL, 5.5 mins, 2004 LITTLE SPIRITS, 9 mins, 2005 ZOO by Robinson Devor, 80 mins, 2007 Many George Kuchar titles, perhaps beginning with early WEATHER DIARY installments, offer loving portraits of critters. KITCH'S LAST MEAL by Carolee Schneeman, 54 mins, 1973-1976 ~Ross On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:29 AM, festi...@cjcinema.org festi...@cjcinema.org wrote: NEOZOON, for SURE, bio-filmo and film excerpts here : http://www.cjcinema.org/pages/fiche_auteur.php?auteur=924 NEOZOON, founded 2009 is a female art collective based in Germany and France. The artist group has been known for their actions performed in public space in european cities. Founding concept of their work is the relationship between animal and human and the question how modern society deals with both - dead and living animals. Artistic medium of their work is ranging from collages over installations to films. ZAPRUDER FILMMAKERS GROUP The Hypnotist Dog here : http://www.cjcinema.org/pages/fiche.php?film=2107 Robert Withers Turtle DREAM : http://www.cjcinema.org/pages/fiche.php?film=781 and more... *Victor GRESARDdistribution+* *71 rue Robespierre* *93100 Montreuil / France* *email: victor.gres...@cjcinema.org victor.gres...@cjcinema.org* *web: www.cjcinema.org http://www.cjcinema.org* *phone: +33 (0) 180601983 %2B33%20%280%29%20180601983* Le 23 avr. 14 à 17:05, sarah browne a écrit : Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com *Hand to Mouth* CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Many of Jim Trainor's works THE BATS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDizcCTUGdw MOSCHOPS https://vimeo.com/76912422 HARMONY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUlE5iTSGSQ Steve Reinke's BEAVER SKULL MAGICK http://www.myrectumisnotagrave.com/vidleos/BeaverSkullMagick.html On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM, sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.iewrote: Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com *Hand to Mouth* CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
*Electrocuting an Elephant* (1903). In which Thomas Edison, one of the first and truly an experimental filmmaker, does just that to the poor creature to demonstrate the superiority of his DC electrical current to his competitor, Nikola Tesla's, AC. Surely one of the stranger and sadder cases of animals being caught up in inter-human behaviors. There is also the incredibly strange and apocalyptic bug movie from 1971, *The Hellstrom Chronicle *(Walon Green), which I can't believe won an academy award for best documentary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R8UN9zGD04 Oh, and what about Ladislaw Starewicz's *Cameraman's Revenge *(1912)? Another bug classic. Best, Heath On 23 April 2014 16:05, sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.ie wrote: Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com *Hand to Mouth* CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Heath Iverson PhD Student, Film Studies University of St Andrews 99 North Street St. Andrews, KY16 9AD Scotland, UK ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Fwd: Brian Frye: The Waste Books
-- Forwarded message -- From: Light Industry informat...@lightindustry.org Date: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:37 AM Subject: Brian Frye: The Waste Books To: h...@edhalter.com Brian Frye: The Waste Books Tuesday, April 29, 2014 at 7:30pm Light Industry 155 Freeman Street Brooklyn, New York Writing of Joseph Cornell, Jonas Mekas remarked that his films “deal with things very close to us, every day and everywhere. Small things, not the big things…His works have the quality—be they boxes, collages, or movies—of being located in some suspended area of time.” One finds a similar sensibility in the films of Brian Frye, particularly so in a cluster of 16mm works completed around the turn of the 21st century, just as the end of small-gauge cinema seemed all too immanent. At once literal actualities and sphinx-like artifacts, Frye’s films might at first seem like outtakes from lost projects, or damaged archival isolates, bearing grainy images that beg for exegesis: Kennedy-era actors awkwardly intone lines from a portentous melodrama; a woman’s face flits in and out of legibility beneath a storm of visual debris; a old man points to a weathered gravesite, his lips mouthing silent words; Civil War soldiers maneuver at the edge of a forest. These moments play like misplaced bits of someone else’s memories, physical records of our world mysteriously unmoored from their origins. Currently a legal scholar—his research into the obscenity cases surrounding Flaming Creatures may be found here—Frye was previously the longtime co-proprietor, with Bradley Eros, of the Robert Beck Memorial Cinema, undoubtedly one of the most vital alternative film venues of the 1990s. His films, perhaps consequently, dissolve any lingering boundaries between selection and creation. Some are completely found objects, only lightly edited; others are shot entirely by Frye himself, yet are barely distinguishable from strips of B-roll. All of them, in one way or another, partake of the aesthetics of so-called amateur filmmaking—not merely in the sense that Maya Deren or Stan Brakhage used the word, to invoke an untrammeled love for the medium, but as a recuperative investigation into the more invisible avenues of cinema’s history, a retracing of vernacular attempts to convey the phenomenon of perception. Describing the source materials of his film The Letter, Frye imagines the secret motives of its anonymous cinematographer: “I’m told that all philosophy springs from one question: why is there something, rather than nothing? These, perhaps, are fragments of one man's answer to that question. Followed by a conversation with Frye and Chrissie Iles. The Anatomy of Melancholy, 1999, 16mm, 11 mins Sometime in the 1960s, a chiropractor from Kansas City made a short film called A Portrait of Fear. The film consisted of several tableau shots of amateur actors standing in a field at night reciting painfully overwrought dialogue, apparently lit by the headlights of a car. I assume the cinematographer used an Auricon, as the sound was recorded directly on the BW reversal original. In 1998, he sold me the outtakes, strung together just like you see them. - BF Broken Camera Reels 1 2, 2000, 16mm, 5 mins The film consists of two rolls of film I shot in 1998 or 1999 while living in a Bushwick loft. I was interested in the perfect simplicity of a movie camera and what happens when a single part is disabled. So I found simple old cameras and deliberately broke one part, to see what happened. In the first reel, I removed the claw. In the second, I removed the shutter. As I recall, I also have a scheme of swinging the camera back and forth and up and down and various f-stop settings. Very Ernie Gehr. Playing, drinking beer shooting film. No editing to speak of. - BF Oona’s Veil, 2000, 16mm, 8 mins I know of only one film-record of Oona Chaplin (née O'Neill), this screen-test made for a film in which she was cast and never appeared, having met and married Charlie Chaplin before shooting commenced. Hers was quite possibly the briefest ever film career, but brevity is no obstacle to greatness. Some say that Chaplin himself directed her screentest; history says otherwise. To hell with history. I rephotographed the original screentest, doing 20 frame (I think) lap dissolves from one to the next. The idea was lifted wholesale from David Rimmer, though I've never seen the film(s?) in which he did it. I was interested in the brief transition from still to motion in Chris Marker's La Jetée, and wanted to extend it somehow. Anyway, I didn't like the result, as the image shifted a lot. So I made a duplicate negative and did damage to it, to obscure the hiccups. It was exposed to chemicals, buried, and left on the fire escape for a year. What was left over I untangled, spliced together into something approaching a continuous strip of film, and had printed. The result became the master positive. The sound consists of a 78 of ‘Whispering Hope,’ played at 33
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Books, that may be helpful: http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/15611713052907_animals_in_film http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/11993112052907_animals_on_screen_and_radio http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/15551762052907_animal_actors http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/14068845052907_amazing_animal_actors http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/10971872052907_not_so_dumb,_the_life_and_times_of_the_animal_actors FIlms: http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/17082772052907_animals_in_motion Fast, Cheap, and Out of Control Microcosmos Bill and Coo - you can find in the Internet Archive Un Chien Andalou, sort of https://www.youtube.com/user/HenriLeChatNoir and others in the Henri saga of feline existentialism And a simply beautiful bw film by experimental filmmaker Henry Hill, about his cat. I don't recall the title, but you could contact him. http://www.henryhills.com/about/contact.txt http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/17120338052907_eadweard_muybridge_zoopraxographer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ed8Hbh5XK0 and other very early silent films by Ladislaw Starewicz I hope these help. Elizabeth From: sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.ie To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com Hand to Mouth CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Samuel Fuller: White Dog Georges Franju: Blood of the Beasts Hollis Frampton: Summer Solstice Peter Kubelka: Unsere Afrikareise I second the Jim Trainor suggestion; many of his films, actually. Stan Brakhage: Nightcats Cat's Cradle Sirius Remembered Mothlight Pasht The Animals of Eden and After The Shores of Phos: A Fable The Presence The Domain of the Moment The Loom Tragoedia Burial Path Bird The Cat of the Worm's Green Realm The Earthsong of the Cricket The Lion and the Zebra Make God's Raw Jewels Max (and doubtless some others that don't come to mind at the moment) Personally, however, I think we should first of all value the nature that our species has gone a long way towards destroying, and the animals that are a part of it, for what they uniquely are, before we start appropriating (or colonizing?) them as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours, which seems to be most of what humans do. Some of the Brakhage films on my list, while always human-centric, do make a stab at trying to imagine animals as genuinely other than us. Fred Camper Chicago ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Oh, that reminded me of Blood of the Beasts. :( http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/17221432052907_your_closest_neighbors http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/17595176052907_keep_em_flying Elizabeth From: Cláudia Faria claudiapiresfa...@gmail.com To: sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.ie; Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film La bête lumineuse by Pierre Perrault Bresson's Au hasard Balthazar Rat Life and Diet in North America by Joyce Wieland On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:05 PM, sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.ie wrote: Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne http://www.sarahbrowne.info/ http://www.kennedybrowne.com/ Hand to Mouth CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Elegia (Zoltan Huszarik, 1965, Hungary, warning: animal death) Gibralter (Margaret Salmon, 2013, UK) Birds at Sunrise (Joyce Wieland, 1986, Canada) Una Furtiva Lagrima (Carlo Vogele, 2012, US) Proxyhawks (Jack Darcus, 1971, Canada) Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974, US) Kes (Ken Loach, 1969, UK) Compound Eyes series by Paul Clipson (2011, US) Plenty Chris Marker films/videos And how about some early cinema like: Boxing Kangaroo (Max Skladanowsky, 1895, Germany) Falling Cat (Etienne-Jules Marey, 1890, France) Edison Boxing Cats (Dickson, 1894, US) Herb Shellenberger Programs Office Manager [cid:image001.jpg@01CE5258.78B1F010] 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104 phone: 215.895.6575 | fax: 215.895.6562 email: he...@ihphilly.orgmailto:he...@ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.orghttp://www.ihousephilly.org/ From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of sarah browne Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.infohttp://www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.comhttp://www.kennedybrowne.com Hand to Mouth CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
One Species Removed by Jennifer Montgomery On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Herb Shellenberger he...@ihphilly.orgwrote: Elegia (Zoltan Huszarik, 1965, Hungary, warning: animal death) Gibralter (Margaret Salmon, 2013, UK) Birds at Sunrise (Joyce Wieland, 1986, Canada) Una Furtiva Lagrima (Carlo Vogele, 2012, US) Proxyhawks (Jack Darcus, 1971, Canada) Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974, US) Kes (Ken Loach, 1969, UK) Compound Eyes series by Paul Clipson (2011, US) Plenty Chris Marker films/videos And how about some early cinema like: Boxing Kangaroo (Max Skladanowsky, 1895, Germany) Falling Cat (Etienne-Jules Marey, 1890, France) Edison Boxing Cats (Dickson, 1894, US) *Herb Shellenberger* *Programs Office Manager* [image: cid:image001.jpg@01CE5258.78B1F010] 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104 phone: 215.895.6575 | fax: 215.895.6562 email: he...@ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org *From:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] *On Behalf Of *sarah browne *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM *To:* frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com *Subject:* [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than *Babe*. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com * Hand to Mouth* CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Bruce Baillie, Valentin de las Sierras 1967 From: sarah browne Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:05 AM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com Hand to Mouth CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Hi, Sarah! Ha, I'd argue that the animal presence as a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence) is pretty much the project of all animal-focused natural history films (from Disney's Beaver Valley to BBC/Discovery's Lion Battlefield to [the French version, especially] of March of the Penguins) whether the makers admit/know it or not, but here are some suggestions that are more along the lines of what you're asking for (I think): Possibly in Michigan (Cecelia Condit) Beauty Plus Pity (Duke Battersby) Sex Life of a Polyp (Robert Benchley) Pennipotens (Heather Freeman) The Jackdaw (Fiona Campbell) I know you're looking for films, but thought these readings might be of interest to you as well: Ronald Tobias' Film and the American Moral Vision of Nature Donna Haraway's Teddy Bear Taxidermy (about natural history museum dioramas, but those are pretty much the same thing as natural history films, except more dead and with actual fur) John Berger's Why Look at Animals? (from About Looking) Best, Kate Lain -- kate lain k...@katemakesfilms.com 626.644.5283 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Many films by Rebecca Meyers - Night Light and Leaping, Lions and Tigers and Bears, Murmurations, among others. http://theworldviewed.com/files/2011/04/Meyers-EMS-booklet.pdf On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Tara Nelson brendamere...@gmail.comwrote: One Species Removed by Jennifer Montgomery On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Herb Shellenberger he...@ihphilly.orgwrote: Elegia (Zoltan Huszarik, 1965, Hungary, warning: animal death) Gibralter (Margaret Salmon, 2013, UK) Birds at Sunrise (Joyce Wieland, 1986, Canada) Una Furtiva Lagrima (Carlo Vogele, 2012, US) Proxyhawks (Jack Darcus, 1971, Canada) Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974, US) Kes (Ken Loach, 1969, UK) Compound Eyes series by Paul Clipson (2011, US) Plenty Chris Marker films/videos And how about some early cinema like: Boxing Kangaroo (Max Skladanowsky, 1895, Germany) Falling Cat (Etienne-Jules Marey, 1890, France) Edison Boxing Cats (Dickson, 1894, US) *Herb Shellenberger* *Programs Office Manager* [image: cid:image001.jpg@01CE5258.78B1F010] 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104 phone: 215.895.6575 | fax: 215.895.6562 email: he...@ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org *From:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] *On Behalf Of *sarah browne *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM *To:* frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com *Subject:* [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than *Babe*. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com * Hand to Mouth* CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Tess Takahashi Assistant Professor Department of Film, Room 217 Centre for Film and Theatre York University Toronto, Ontario M3J 1P3 Canada Editorial Collective CAMERA OBSCURA: FEMINISM, CULTURE, AND MEDIA STUDIES Canadian ph: 647-521-5031 US ph:440-774-5021 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
The Hart of London by Jack Chambers On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:05 PM, sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.ie wrote: Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com * Hand to Mouth* CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Dear Sarah, I saw your post on frameworks, I am an experimental fillmmaker- videoartist from Israel and i do have some animals especially insects related films. I can send you links to my works if you want. Best regards Chen Sheinberg נשלח מה-iPhone שלי ב-23 באפר 2014, בשעה 16:05, sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.ie כתב/ה: Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com Hand to Mouth CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Horse (Andy Warhol) uses the mere presence of a horse (along with costumes and other elements, but primarily the horse) to visually denote the film's status as a Western - possibly a distancing tactic in the way you suggest, since inter-human violence (instigated from offscreen) certainly is a subject of the film, and there is a definite animal-human interaction as well. Lucien Taylor's and Verena Paravel's recent film Leviathan is an immersive record of the activity (animal and human) on and around a fishing vessel at sea. Guy Sherwin's Animal Studies series, available from Canyon. Andy Ditzler www.filmlove.org www.johnq.org Graduate Institute of the Liberal Arts, Emory University On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM, sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.iewrote: Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com * Hand to Mouth* CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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I'm surprised no one has mention cat videos on YouTube. While cliché´d and derivative for the most part, some of them are quite clearly artist-designed: try the ones of the Japanese cat Maru. It's clear that the person shooting is very talented, and designs interesting and intriguing props for this cat who loves to dive into boxes and bags. Quite an international following. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
The Ax Fight, and other films by Asch and Chagnon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ax_Fight Que Viva Mexico https://archive.org/details/QuevivaMexico At NYPL; these are ethnographic films that do have a sense of experimental filmmaking: Magic Rites: Divination by Animal Tracks Herding Cattle On the Niger Fishing On the Niger Elizabeth From: Tara Nelson brendamere...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film One Species Removed by Jennifer Montgomery On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Herb Shellenberger he...@ihphilly.org wrote: Elegia (Zoltan Huszarik, 1965, Hungary, warning: animal death) Gibralter (Margaret Salmon, 2013, UK) Birds at Sunrise (Joyce Wieland, 1986, Canada) Una Furtiva Lagrima (Carlo Vogele, 2012, US) Proxyhawks (Jack Darcus, 1971, Canada) Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974, US) Kes (Ken Loach, 1969, UK) Compound Eyes series by Paul Clipson (2011, US) Plenty Chris Marker films/videos And how about some early cinema like: Boxing Kangaroo (Max Skladanowsky, 1895, Germany) Falling Cat (Etienne-Jules Marey, 1890, France) Edison Boxing Cats (Dickson, 1894, US) Herb Shellenberger Programs Office Manager 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104 phone: 215.895.6575 | fax: 215.895.6562 email: he...@ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org From:FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of sarah browne Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne http://www.sarahbrowne.info/ http://www.kennedybrowne.com/ Hand to Mouth CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Niagara Custom Labs in Toronto has a new website and a new address!
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Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
A friend from my days of yearly attendance at UFVA, Mark Von Schlemmer, is an animal-rights/vegan-diet activist and has made several pro-animal/anti-slaughter films you can find on his YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/vonSchlemmer From the individual videos, YouTube will lead you to other related pieces. I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned William Wegman's dog videos, especially Man Ray's Spelling Lesson. Woody Allen's Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex... is divided into chapters, each of which is a different genre parody. The take-off on L-Shaped Room infidelity melodrama features Gene Wilder having a doomed affair with a sheep. - Ain't We Having Fun Chuck Statler (greatest documentary short ever, IMHO) Meat Fred Wiseman Cane Toads ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Not too aesthetically experimental, but quite interesting and poignant nonetheless, are naturalist's Joe Hutto's filmed experiences living with animal communities: MY LIFE AS A TURKEY, and the latest TOUCHING THE WILD: LIVING WITH THE MULE DEER OF DEADMAN GULCH. Both are episodes of PBS's NATURE. Tim Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 16:05:22 +0100 From: sarahjbro...@yahoo.ie To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com Hand to Mouth CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Searchable Screenplays?
thanks a ton, herb - this is perfect -lj On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Herb Shellenberger he...@ihphilly.orgwrote: www.subzin.com *Herb Shellenberger* *Programs Office Manager* [image: cid:image001.jpg@01CE5258.78B1F010] 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104 phone: 215.895.6575 | fax: 215.895.6562 email: he...@ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org *From:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] *On Behalf Of *LJ Frezza *Sent:* Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:22 PM *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List *Subject:* [Frameworks] Searchable Screenplays? Hey Folks, Does anyone know of any good databases of searchable screenplays or transcripts of Hollywood films? Maybe even searchable subtitles? I'm looking to find particular films where certain phrases occur, so any recommendations are appreciated. Peace, -LJ -- ljfre...@gmail.com / 904.762.8300 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- ljfre...@gmail.com / 904.762.8300 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] frameworks confirmation message?
anybody else get this? it says I bounced too many times and have to reconfirm my membership on the list? What does 'bounced' mean? Kristie Reinders, B.F.A. Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project The Mission, San Francisco, CA 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.' - - - Issac Asimov___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
But with our students it actually is speed that's killing creativity, as they become more and more acclimated to working fast--digital cameras, digital editing systems, etc. Ah, it's just terrible--so much junk. Shoot slow, edit slow, experience slow. ;] Tim From: fl...@flickharrison.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:29:52 -0700 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking On Apr 18, 2014, at 15:26 , Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.com wrote: Slow=bad?! Bah. Tim It's nice to work slowly if you are trying to do so; it's insanely annoying if you are not. Imagine if a painter put a stroke on the canvas and couldn't see it for 30 seconds afterwards. Not too many painters are striving to achieve that workflow. ;-) -- * WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD? http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison * FLICK's WEBSITE: http://www.flickharrison.com ↑ Grab this Headline Animator Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Flick Harrison fl...@flickharrison.com wrote: ...will sloow you down, and that's bad creatively... - Flick ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Classes are only 13 weeks. :) On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.comwrote: But with our students it actually is speed that's killing creativity, as they become more and more acclimated to working fast--digital cameras, digital editing systems, etc. Ah, it's just terrible--so much junk. Shoot slow, edit slow, experience slow. ;] Tim -- From: fl...@flickharrison.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:29:52 -0700 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking On Apr 18, 2014, at 15:26 , Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.com wrote: Slow=bad?! Bah. Tim It's nice to work slowly if you are trying to do so; it's insanely annoying if you are not. Imagine if a painter put a stroke on the canvas and couldn't see it for 30 seconds afterwards. Not too many painters are striving to achieve that workflow. ;-) -- ** WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD?* http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison ** FLICK's WEBSITE: * http://www.flickharrison.com [image: Zero for Conduct]http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ZeroForConduct/~6/2 ↑ Grab this Headline Animatorhttp://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/headlineanimator/install?id=90rffbei3nr88m9ci3u0qr9d14w=2 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Flick Harrison fl...@flickharrison.com wrote: ...will sloow you down, and that's bad creatively... - Flick ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] frameworks confirmation message?
I got one too Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 12:05 PM, k. a.r. a_r...@hotmail.com wrote: anybody else get this? it says I bounced too many times and have to reconfirm my membership on the list? What does 'bounced' mean? Kristie Reinders, B.F.A. Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project The Mission, San Francisco, CA 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.' - - - Issac Asimov ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] frameworks confirmation message?
bounced means that the frameworks mail server couldn't deliver list messages to you. Both of you are using older Microsoft domain names, are they force-migrating you to something newer? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Jon Behrens bolex...@msn.com wrote: I got one too Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 12:05 PM, k. a.r. a_r...@hotmail.com wrote: anybody else get this? it says I bounced too many times and have to reconfirm my membership on the list? What does 'bounced' mean? Kristie Reinders, B.F.A. Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project The Mission, San Francisco, CA 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.' - - - Issac Asimov ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
Of course. Well stated. Tim Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:39:10 -0400 From: jkne...@colgate.edu To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking Tim, I would hold their first projects to one minute in length. Talk to them up front about each frame being precious. Hold them responsible for what they shoot. Talk to them about light, color, motion (the camera moving and what is being shot as moving). Keep it extraordinarily essential. If they can learn to appreciate the shot that they are making, if they can think about composition, color, and the semiotic system within each framed rectangle, then they will be able someday to make any kind of film; narrative, doc, or strictly formal. Forget this story telling stuff. That is something else. Teach them about light and motion. You will then have empowered them to use a cinematic tool to convey the content of what ever it is that they want to say to the world. Then they can tell their stories if they have something to say. jk On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.com wrote: But with our students it actually is speed that's killing creativity, as they become more and more acclimated to working fast--digital cameras, digital editing systems, etc. Ah, it's just terrible--so much junk. Shoot slow, edit slow, experience slow. ;] Tim From: fl...@flickharrison.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:29:52 -0700 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking On Apr 18, 2014, at 15:26 , Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.com wrote: Slow=bad?! Bah. Tim It's nice to work slowly if you are trying to do so; it's insanely annoying if you are not. Imagine if a painter put a stroke on the canvas and couldn't see it for 30 seconds afterwards. Not too many painters are striving to achieve that workflow. ;-) -- * WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD? http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison * FLICK's WEBSITE: http://www.flickharrison.com ↑ Grab this Headline Animator Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Flick Harrison fl...@flickharrison.com wrote: ...will sloow you down, and that's bad creatively... - Flick ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- John Knecht, Russell Colgate Distinguished University Professor of Art and Art History and Film and Media Studies ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
Tim, I would hold their first projects to one minute in length. Talk to them up front about each frame being precious. Hold them responsible for what they shoot. Talk to them about light, color, motion (the camera moving and what is being shot as moving). Keep it extraordinarily essential. If they can learn to appreciate the shot that they are making, if they can think about composition, color, and the semiotic system within each framed rectangle, then they will be able someday to make any kind of film; narrative, doc, or strictly formal. Forget this story telling stuff. That is something else. Teach them about light and motion. You will then have empowered them to use a cinematic tool to convey the content of what ever it is that they want to say to the world. Then they can tell their stories if they have something to say. jk On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.comwrote: But with our students it actually is speed that's killing creativity, as they become more and more acclimated to working fast--digital cameras, digital editing systems, etc. Ah, it's just terrible--so much junk. Shoot slow, edit slow, experience slow. ;] Tim -- From: fl...@flickharrison.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:29:52 -0700 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking On Apr 18, 2014, at 15:26 , Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.com wrote: Slow=bad?! Bah. Tim It's nice to work slowly if you are trying to do so; it's insanely annoying if you are not. Imagine if a painter put a stroke on the canvas and couldn't see it for 30 seconds afterwards. Not too many painters are striving to achieve that workflow. ;-) -- ** WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD?* http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison ** FLICK's WEBSITE: * http://www.flickharrison.com [image: Zero for Conduct]http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ZeroForConduct/~6/2 ↑ Grab this Headline Animatorhttp://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/headlineanimator/install?id=90rffbei3nr88m9ci3u0qr9d14w=2 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Flick Harrison fl...@flickharrison.com wrote: ...will sloow you down, and that's bad creatively... - Flick ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- John Knecht, Russell Colgate Distinguished University Professor of Art and Art History and Film and Media Studies ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
Damn you kids, get off my lawn!! This argument has been going on ever since the Sony Porta-pak video system became available in the late 60s. Lower cost and instant gratification has supposedly killed creativity. But of course, now there is an entire historical catalog of long form video art that is now in the experimental cinema canon, preserved in museums, part of the establishment. Technology is not making things too easy, it's enabling people who previously couldn't make movies to be creative. They often do need guidance, and that guidance has to come from mentors who understand the art of cinema as well as its technological developments. Rejecting the technology is a losing strategy. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. To stay relevant, instructors must adapt to the changing times. This is the fundamental issue with education across the board. Aaron At 4/23/2014, you wrote: But with our students it actually is speed that's killing creativity, as they become more and more acclimated to working fast--digital cameras, digital editing systems, etc. Ah, it's just terrible--so much junk. Shoot slow, edit slow, experience slow. ;] Tim -- From: fl...@flickharrison.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:29:52 -0700 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking On Apr 18, 2014, at 15:26 , Tim Halloran mailto:televis...@hotmail.comtelevis...@hotmail.com wrote: Slow=bad?! Bah. Tim It's nice to work slowly if you are trying to do so; it's insanely annoying if you are not. Imagine if a painter put a stroke on the canvas and couldn't see it for 30 seconds afterwards. Not too many painters are striving to achieve that workflow. ;-) -- * WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD? http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrisonhttp://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison * FLICK's WEBSITE: http://www.flickharrison.comhttp://www.flickharrison.comhttp://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ZeroForConduct/~6/2 http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/headlineanimator/install?id=90rffbei3nr88m9ci3u0qr9d14w=2$B,(B Grab this Headline Animator Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Flick Harrison mailto:fl...@flickharrison.comfl...@flickharrison.com wrote: ...will sloow you down, and that's bad creatively... - Flick ___ FrameWorks mailing list mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator http://dr-yo.com http://digitalartsguild.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
Forget this story telling stuff. That is something else. For a class or assignments defined by an experimental' rubric, sure. But for any general motion-picture production class story is essential, though not, of course in a Bob McKee Hollywood formula kind of way. Which is to say that choices in composition, color, and the semiotic system within each framed rectangle all should be made within the context of the overall purpose of the work. You have to have a goal in mind, something you want to say, to make good choices about how to use the medium to express it effectively. Thus, especially for beginning students who have no background in fine-art film, telling a story is not at all something else from the semiotics of the individual shot (or cut), but inseparable. ... As for the whole question of speed... I'm in complete agreement with John that introductory pedagogy should focus on the bread and butter aspects of shaping meaning (in the broad sense, which would include poetics, abstraction, etc.) In technical terms, to me this means straight cuts, and basic fades/dissolves in the NLE, things which place very low demand on computing power, and can be executed quickly on even the most basic hardware. A need for speed (if I may be so bold as to employ a Tom Cruise/Tony Scott film reference on Frameworks) suggests to me that students would be doing compositing or other kinds of effects work where rendering time becomes an issue. To me, THAT is Something Else (too much French pastry in the words of the great Al McGuire) and it's presence in any introductory class is (to mix metaphors) putting the cart before the horse, IMHO. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
You, sir, are obviously neither an educator nor an artist. ;] Tim Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 13:02:39 -0700 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com From: aa...@digitalartsguild.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking Damn you kids, get off my lawn!! This argument has been going on ever since the Sony Porta-pak video system became available in the late 60s. Lower cost and instant gratification has supposedly killed creativity. But of course, now there is an entire historical catalog of long form video art that is now in the experimental cinema canon, preserved in museums, part of the establishment. Technology is not making things too easy, it's enabling people who previously couldn't make movies to be creative. They often do need guidance, and that guidance has to come from mentors who understand the art of cinema as well as its technological developments. Rejecting the technology is a losing strategy. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. To stay relevant, instructors must adapt to the changing times. This is the fundamental issue with education across the board. Aaron At 4/23/2014, you wrote: But with our students it actually is speed that's killing creativity, as they become more and more acclimated to working fast--digital cameras, digital editing systems, etc. Ah, it's just terrible--so much junk. Shoot slow, edit slow, experience slow. ;] Tim -- From: fl...@flickharrison.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:29:52 -0700 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking On Apr 18, 2014, at 15:26 , Tim Halloran mailto:televis...@hotmail.comtelevis...@hotmail.com wrote: Slow=bad?! Bah. Tim It's nice to work slowly if you are trying to do so; it's insanely annoying if you are not. Imagine if a painter put a stroke on the canvas and couldn't see it for 30 seconds afterwards. Not too many painters are striving to achieve that workflow. ;-) -- * WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD? http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrisonhttp://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison * FLICK's WEBSITE: http://www.flickharrison.comhttp://www.flickharrison.comhttp://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ZeroForConduct/~6/2 http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/headlineanimator/install?id=90rffbei3nr88m9ci3u0qr9d14w=2$B,(B Grab this Headline Animator Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Flick Harrison mailto:fl...@flickharrison.comfl...@flickharrison.com wrote: ...will sloow you down, and that's bad creatively... - Flick ___ FrameWorks mailing list mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator http://dr-yo.com http://digitalartsguild.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
On 4/23/2014 4:21 PM, Tim Halloran wrote: You, sir, are obviously neither an educator nor an artist. ;] There is just about never a reason for an ad hominem attack such as this one. Fred Camper Chicago ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
Lol. Alright, was just kidding around, but apologies to any delicate flowers who took offense. Tim Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 16:30:37 -0500 From: f...@fredcamper.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking On 4/23/2014 4:21 PM, Tim Halloran wrote: You, sir, are obviously neither an educator nor an artist. ;] There is just about never a reason for an ad hominem attack such as this one. Fred Camper Chicago ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/framewor ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Screen Recorders
There are a number of screen recording products, like Bulent Screen Recorder for PC, that promise to capture anything that appears on your screen. Is that true? Anything? No exceptions?___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
But you _can_ reject the technology. Not at all times, nor throughout the whole program. But, just because oil painting exists does not mean that art students shouldn't learn how to make frescos. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Screen Recorders
Camtasia is the gold standard for screen capture. I use it professionally on a daily basis. It *does* capture absolutely everything, picture and sound. The main issue with screen capture software is the cursor. It is on a different plane overlaid on the rest of the desktop. Some software does not even capture the cursor at all. Camtasia works around this by capturing the cursor commands and generating its own cursor. So it does have minor issues. For example, if you zoom in on the screen using Magnifier, the cursor is the wrong size and place. But generally, Camtasia is pretty foolproof. It uses a proprietary codec that is lossless and very, very efficient. It's worth the $300 price tag if you use it regularly. Aaron At 4/23/2014, you wrote: There are a number of screen recording products, like Bulent Screen Recorder for PC, that promise to capture anything that appears on your screen. Is that true? Anything? No exceptions? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator http://dr-yo.com http://digitalartsguild.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
It's true, professors with tenure can ignore the changing times. There's no accountability and no consequences, so tenured professors can be rigid, inflexible, and anachronistic, and get away with it. But of course, that is doing the students a disservice. There's a huge disconnect between academia and the real world, and young people know it. In a way, the decline of tenure and the expansion of adjunct hires is good for students. It's bad from a labor perspective, but at least it keeps fresh blood coming in. Adjuncts have to continually prove/improve themselves, and can't rest on their laurels. Ever. Regarding technology, I'm a selective adopter. Just because something is new does not make it good. But the corollary to this is that just because something is familiar does not make it good, either. We all must think critically about technology if we are to be effective educators, makers, and even consumers. Control the tools, or they will control you. The fresco analogy unintentionally makes the opposite point. Art schools don't teach fresco painting anymore, except as an extremely specialist subject. Oil painting is a widely adopted technique that has immediate application across the board. Fresco painting is, for the most part, a dead art. So, in fact, students should not be required to learn it. If you want to piss off students, wasting their time and money, then by all means, make them learn some specialized, anachronistic subject that has little or no application in the real world. Aaron At 4/23/2014, you wrote: But you _can_ reject the technology. Not at all times, nor throughout the whole program. But, just because oil painting exists does not mean that art students shouldn't learn how to make frescos. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator http://dr-yo.com http://digitalartsguild.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
Then again, with all the dross out in the world, some people/students should never be allowed to make a film/video. Peter (Perth) On 24/04/2014 8:12 am, Aaron F. Ross aa...@digitalartsguild.com wrote: It's true, professors with tenure can ignore the changing times. There's no accountability and no consequences, so tenured professors can be rigid, inflexible, and anachronistic, and get away with it. But of course, that is doing the students a disservice. There's a huge disconnect between academia and the real world, and young people know it. In a way, the decline of tenure and the expansion of adjunct hires is good for students. It's bad from a labor perspective, but at least it keeps fresh blood coming in. Adjuncts have to continually prove/improve themselves, and can't rest on their laurels. Ever. Regarding technology, I'm a selective adopter. Just because something is new does not make it good. But the corollary to this is that just because something is familiar does not make it good, either. We all must think critically about technology if we are to be effective educators, makers, and even consumers. Control the tools, or they will control you. The fresco analogy unintentionally makes the opposite point. Art schools don't teach fresco painting anymore, except as an extremely specialist subject. Oil painting is a widely adopted technique that has immediate application across the board. Fresco painting is, for the most part, a dead art. So, in fact, students should not be required to learn it. If you want to piss off students, wasting their time and money, then by all means, make them learn some specialized, anachronistic subject that has little or no application in the real world. Aaron At 4/23/2014, you wrote: But you _can_ reject the technology. Not at all times, nor throughout the whole program. But, just because oil painting exists does not mean that art students shouldn't learn how to make frescos. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator http://dr-yo.com http://digitalartsguild.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
As a tenured professor who has spent the entire day meeting with students about their work, writing page-long evaluations of same, assisting with the preparation of a student film festival - and the entire week researching digital filmmaking technology and contemporary French cinema (to name two) to improve my knowledge of these things for the next two weeks of film history lectures, I don't have a lot of time to jump into Frameworks fracases. I'll just briefly call Bullshit on your cliche, tired, caricatural of tenured professors. Oh, I'm also assisting another tenured colleague prepare his performance and salary review (no accountability and no consequences?). Saying adjuncts are good for students is more bullshit. We've had plenty of part time and adjunct hires who have done just as poor work as the proverbial checked out tenured prof. An adjunct hired for a single semester as a leave replacement has even less motivation to prove him/herself than a tenured faculty member - not that it's the adjunct's fault. And a revolving door of overworked and underpaid adjuncts that provides no consistency or continuity in a department is not good for students either. Adjuncts don't have the market cornered on youthful exuberance and with-it-ness. As for application in the real world: I hear that refrain regularly from anti-intellectual conservatives who want to eliminate arts and humanities programs, who demand that colleges focus on professional or career readiness. If that's all you value, then yeah, teaching film students how to use Bolexes, Steenbecks, etc., is pretty useless - but then so is teaching them about practically anything else. Jonathan Walley (tenured professor) Department of Cinema (which I'm told is dead) Denison University (which is a liberal arts school teaching all sorts of things with no application in the real world) On Apr 23, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Aaron F. Ross wrote: It's true, professors with tenure can ignore the changing times. There's no accountability and no consequences, so tenured professors can be rigid, inflexible, and anachronistic, and get away with it. But of course, that is doing the students a disservice. There's a huge disconnect between academia and the real world, and young people know it. In a way, the decline of tenure and the expansion of adjunct hires is good for students. It's bad from a labor perspective, but at least it keeps fresh blood coming in. Adjuncts have to continually prove/improve themselves, and can't rest on their laurels. Ever. Regarding technology, I'm a selective adopter. Just because something is new does not make it good. But the corollary to this is that just because something is familiar does not make it good, either. We all must think critically about technology if we are to be effective educators, makers, and even consumers. Control the tools, or they will control you. The fresco analogy unintentionally makes the opposite point. Art schools don't teach fresco painting anymore, except as an extremely specialist subject. Oil painting is a widely adopted technique that has immediate application across the board. Fresco painting is, for the most part, a dead art. So, in fact, students should not be required to learn it. If you want to piss off students, wasting their time and money, then by all means, make them learn some specialized, anachronistic subject that has little or no application in the real world. Aaron At 4/23/2014, you wrote: But you _can_ reject the technology. Not at all times, nor throughout the whole program. But, just because oil painting exists does not mean that art students shouldn't learn how to make frescos. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator http://dr-yo.com http://digitalartsguild.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Screen Recorders
I use this a lot: iShowU https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ishowu-hd-pro/id449093286?mt=12 and its pretty easy to get for free if you are open to thievery On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Aaron F. Ross aa...@digitalartsguild.comwrote: Camtasia is the gold standard for screen capture. I use it professionally on a daily basis. It *does* capture absolutely everything, picture and sound. The main issue with screen capture software is the cursor. It is on a different plane overlaid on the rest of the desktop. Some software does not even capture the cursor at all. Camtasia works around this by capturing the cursor commands and generating its own cursor. So it does have minor issues. For example, if you zoom in on the screen using Magnifier, the cursor is the wrong size and place. But generally, Camtasia is pretty foolproof. It uses a proprietary codec that is lossless and very, very efficient. It's worth the $300 price tag if you use it regularly. Aaron At 4/23/2014, you wrote: There are a number of screen recording products, like Bulent Screen Recorder for PC, that promise to capture anything that appears on your screen. Is that true? Anything? No exceptions? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5. webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator http://dr-yo.com http://digitalartsguild.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Michael Glawogger
Frameworkers,Michael Glawogger, the remarkable independent documentarian (who made Megacities, Workingman's Death, and Whore's Glory--and many other films), is dead at 54, apparently of malaria--he was shooting material for a new project in Liberia. A wonderful filmmaker, in the prime of life--a terrible, terrible loss.Scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
Late to the conversation, please forgive. When I was teaching (an associates degree program), I taught as I had learned. Tell a story visually in three minutes. Edit in camera, no retakes, if there is a mistake, so be it, it is after all only an exercise. Yes it is a pain if you are parallel editing, but again, it is an exercise. After the footage is reviewed, discussed, and the mistakes, wonderful and not so wonderful, are looked at. Then go shoot the same story again, this time though, you can edit the footage in an NLE, so you can do re-takes, and etc. etc. I think my students got something out of that, even though shooting in video and editing on an NLE. Some students fought like hell, throwing up creative roadblocks, and others had to be hauled back in, as they had designs to fly before they could even crawl (That's fine and great, but got to learn the rules or guidelines as I called them, then learn why they work, and then study and figure out how and when to break them). It does few any good to bite off too much, and become discouraged. Perhaps the easiest thing about teaching is recognizing which student needs the nudge, and which need a brake, the hardest is getting them to trust you. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Filmmaker 917-886-5858 http://www.gladstonefilms.com http://roadtodad.blogspot.com/ http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.hellion.gladstonefilms.com On 4/23/14, 8:36 PM, Peter Mudie wrote: Then again, with all the dross out in the world, some people/students should never be allowed to make a film/video. Peter (Perth) On 24/04/2014 8:12 am, Aaron F. Ross aa...@digitalartsguild.com wrote: It's true, professors with tenure can ignore the changing times. There's no accountability and no consequences, so tenured professors can be rigid, inflexible, and anachronistic, and get away with it. But of course, that is doing the students a disservice. There's a huge disconnect between academia and the real world, and young people know it. In a way, the decline of tenure and the expansion of adjunct hires is good for students. It's bad from a labor perspective, but at least it keeps fresh blood coming in. Adjuncts have to continually prove/improve themselves, and can't rest on their laurels. Ever. Regarding technology, I'm a selective adopter. Just because something is new does not make it good. But the corollary to this is that just because something is familiar does not make it good, either. We all must think critically about technology if we are to be effective educators, makers, and even consumers. Control the tools, or they will control you. The fresco analogy unintentionally makes the opposite point. Art schools don't teach fresco painting anymore, except as an extremely specialist subject. Oil painting is a widely adopted technique that has immediate application across the board. Fresco painting is, for the most part, a dead art. So, in fact, students should not be required to learn it. If you want to piss off students, wasting their time and money, then by all means, make them learn some specialized, anachronistic subject that has little or no application in the real world. Aaron At 4/23/2014, you wrote: But you _can_ reject the technology. Not at all times, nor throughout the whole program. But, just because oil painting exists does not mean that art students shouldn't learn how to make frescos. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator http://dr-yo.com http://digitalartsguild.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Filmmaker 917-886-5858 http://www.gladstonefilms.com http://roadtodad.blogspot.com/ http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.hellion.gladstonefilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Film Festival in Havana
As of tonight I am going to have to not receive any more films. I need to sort out the works received as of April 24th. thanks to the many who have sent me links to their work. I have collected more than 75 titles and I need to view these films and make some decisions To those who have expressed an interest and have not sent me links, you will have to wait for the next posting. Sorry about that. Any questions comments please contact me at domi...@cinemod.net Dominic Angerame ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
Kathy high. Animal attraction Sent from my phone On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Ruth Hayes randomr...@comcast.net wrote: Here's a sampling of animation featuring animals in some way: Wendy Tilby and Amanda Forbis' When the Day Breaks, Caroline Leaf's The Owl Who Married a Goose, my own Wanda, Iain Gardner's films, Aardman's Creature Comforts, Yuri Norstein's films, Alison deVere's Black Dog, Dennis Tupicoff's Darra Dogs, Igor Kovalyov's Hen His Wife, Sara Petty's Furies, Joanna Quinn's Britannia, Paul Fierlinger's Still Life with Animated DOgs, Alexander Petrov's The Cow, Run Wrake's Rabbit, three versions of Little Red Riding Hood: Piotr Dumala's Little Black Riding Hood, Tex Avery's Red Hot Riding Hood and Fleischer's Dizzy Red Riding Hood. Ruth Hayes http://www.randommotion.com blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr On Apr 23, 2014, at 8:05 AM, sarah browne wrote: Dear Frameworkers, I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe. Any tips very gratefully received! Best wishes, Sarah Browne www.sarahbrowne.info www.kennedybrowne.com Hand to Mouth CCA Derry-Londonderry until 24 May 2014 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Screen Recorders
Xserve On Wednesday, April 23, 2014, chris bravo iamdir...@gmail.com wrote: I use this a lot: iShowUssszstsxtzzy https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ishowu-hd-pro/id449093286?mt=12 and its pretty easy to get for free if you are open to thievery On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Aaron F. Ross aa...@digitalartsguild.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aa...@digitalartsguild.com'); wrote: Camtasia is the gold standard for screen capture. I use it professionally on a daily basis. It *does* capture absolutely everything, picture and sound. The main issue with screen capture software is the cursor. It is on a different plane overlaid on the rest of the desktop. Some software does not even capture the cursor at all. Camtasia works around this by capturing the cursor commands and generating its own cursor. So it does have minor issues. For example, if you zoom in on the screen using Magnifier, the cursor is the wrong size and place. But generally, Camtasia is pretty foolproof. It uses a proprietary codec that is lossless and very, very efficient. It's worth the $300 price tag if you use it regularly. Aaron At 4/23/2014, you wrote: There are a number of screen recording products, like Bulent Screen Recorder for PC, that promise to capture anything that appears on your screen. Is that true? Anything? No exceptions? ___X FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com'); https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator http://dr-yo.com http://digitalartsguild.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com'); https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Sent from mobile device, please forgive typographic errors. -RTW ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
