Re: [Frameworks] Editing negative

2017-10-22 Thread Fred Camper
On 10/22/2017 8:46 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote: We did “cull” our original (usually reversal, back in the day) before workprinting, to save every last penny. As did big-budget Hollywood films -- that was the difference between the director ending a take with a call of “cut,“ or “cut print.“

Re: [Frameworks] Editing negative

2017-10-22 Thread Jeff Kreines
We did “cull” our original (usually reversal, back in the day) before workprinting, to save every last penny. Bob uses the word “timing” below, but be aware that that word means both the pacing/duration of shots and how the lab color-corrects a shot when printing — the person who did that

[Frameworks] Editing negative

2017-10-22 Thread Robert Withers
Esperanza, What we used to do in the old days was make a print from the negative, then edit that print changing order and timing, then match the negative to the edited print. Negative is fairly delicate and picks up dirt easily. Though in theory I guess you could rearrange takes. What would be

Re: [Frameworks] Editing neg?

2017-10-22 Thread Eddy Falconer
John sounds right to me. I had heard mostly of workprints always, too. On Oct 22, 2017 5:44 PM, "Jeff Kreines" wrote: > I’m surprised that no one has mentioned workprint. Most films were > edited using workprints, a print off the uncut negative — and once that > was “locked”

Re: [Frameworks] Editing neg?

2017-10-22 Thread Jeff Kreines
I’m surprised that no one has mentioned workprint. Most films were edited using workprints, a print off the uncut negative — and once that was “locked” the negative was conformed. While some did edit original negatives, it was usually for speed — done in the early newsreel days, and in early

Re: [Frameworks] Editing neg?

2017-10-22 Thread Christopher Ball
Yes, and based on experience, if you get one frame out of sync somewhere its a nightmare to fix!   Original Message   From: djte...@gmail.com Sent: October 22, 2017 5:54 PM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Reply-to: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Editing neg? I

Re: [Frameworks] Editing neg?

2017-10-22 Thread Dave Tetzlaff
I wouldn’t suggest conforming any negative you care about yourself unless you have plenty of experience both with handling negative and with a glue splicer. Any dust or whatever that gets on the neg will show up in the print. It takes technique to scrape just the right amount of emulsion off

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Re: [Frameworks] Editing neg?

2017-10-22 Thread Esperanza Collado
Interesting to know this. Thanks Pip, for bringing it out. I'll make sure I ask my lab, as I actually don't have any cement equipment (yet). Good to know it's affordable too! 2017-10-22 17:01 GMT+02:00 Scott Dorsey : > The Bell and Howell printers will mostly pass tape splices,

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Re: [Frameworks] Editing neg?

2017-10-22 Thread Scott Dorsey
The Bell and Howell printers will mostly pass tape splices, but they always have a little registration problem when the splice goes over, even if you add a few frames of slop. You can do it... I once conformed a 400 foot documentary entirely with a Presstape splicer (very very bad idea). But

Re: [Frameworks] Editing neg?

2017-10-22 Thread Pip Chodorov
Hi Esperanza, I once asked my lab if I could make tape splices. The New York lab said sure. The Paris lab said no but they allowed me to make tape splices leaving an extra frame on either side of my cut which they cut off and replaced with a cement splice. In that way you get to do the

Re: [Frameworks] Editing neg?

2017-10-22 Thread Esperanza Collado
Thank you, Scott. Your indications couldn't be more clear. 2017-10-22 14:35 GMT+02:00 Scott Dorsey : > Yes, the neg needs to be cut in order. You can cut it with scenes simply > in > order (and cement splice it). If you do this you will see a line on the > screen > at each

Re: [Frameworks] Editing neg?

2017-10-22 Thread Scott Dorsey
Yes, the neg needs to be cut in order. You can cut it with scenes simply in order (and cement splice it). If you do this you will see a line on the screen at each cut. The better way to do this is to A-B roll, that is to make two rolls with a checkerboard pattern with scenes alternating with

[Frameworks] Editing neg?

2017-10-22 Thread Esperanza Collado
Dear Workers of the Frame, I have a negative and I want to create a print from it, organizing the different sequences that I shot in a different order. What's the exact procedure I should follow? Should I cut the negative and splice it together in the new manner I want the final print to be, then